What started out as the Estate of Anna Nicole Smith vs. Ford Shelley, Gina Shelley, G. Ben Thompson, Gaither Thompson and Melanie Thompson, or known as the Shelley and Thompson Clan of South Carolina. The people who broke into Horizons in the Bahamas and then allegedly sold a lot of tapes and pictures to TMZ (remember the Methadone refrigerator picture), Splash (including the tasteless picture of Daniel Smith in his casket), tons of videos to Fox News including On the Record with Greta Van Susteren, Geraldo Rivera Live, and the list goes on and on. Ford was one of the first to holler, Howard K. Stern did something to Daniel and Anna Nicole Smith, and the first at the trial to say Howard never hurt Anna……… so much for credibility. The question is though where is the money that all of that sold for????

Then enters what has become the big fish, Susan M. Brown Esq., Georgia Attorney and the Susan M. Brown Law Office, did this poor woman get left holding the bag and with the O’Quinn law firm dissolved there is no one to hand it off too. Kind of like playing musical chairs and the one left standing alone when the music stops, that would be Susan M. Brown.

Brown has tap danced for two years with the same song just different steps until she finally had a Northern District of Georgia Federal Court say she had waived the attorney client privilege under the crime fraud act…… NOT good for a lawyer’s resume, not to mention the State Bar of Georgia.

Any Objections to Susan M. Brown’s current lawyers, Joseph C. Wilson IV. and Carl E. Pierce II of Pierce, Herns, Sloan & McLeod LLC, has filed to withdraw as counsel for “the Brown Defendants”, stating it would not cause any prejudice because “the discovery concerning the Brown Defendants has not begun”. Do what??? The court ruled a long time ago that because Brown has been present for all of those depositions there would not be that much extra to tidy up the suit and have it ready for trial.

However the big WHAM in the March 2, 2011 filings is asking and filing the Motion to Withdraw with the grounds set out to substantiate the withdrawing should be in a Memorandum in Support filed UNDER SEAL “Counsel is not aware of any other means to communicate the grounds for withdrawal that would protect the confidentiality of the attorney-client relationship and avoid undue prejudice to the Brown Defendants.”

However the case they quote as outweighing the right of the public right to know (I. E. the News media) on its own raises red flags of the potential seriousness of these actions. In the Knight case it states; “we explained that, while a district court has a supervisory power over its own records and may, in its discretion, seal documents if the public’s right of access is outweighed by competing interests, the presumption in such cases favors public access. The public’s right of access to judicial records and documents may be abrogated ONLY IN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES. Accordingly before a district court may seal any court documents, we held that it must 1) provide public notice of the request to seal and allow interested parties a reasonable opportunity to object. (That date was March 21, 2011 per the South Carolina Federal Court’s Docket). 2) consider less drastic alternatives to sealing the documents, and 3) provide specific reasons and factual findings supporting its decision to seal the documents and for rejecting the alternatives.”

The Motion ends that “Counsel will submit the Memorandum in Support of the Motion to Withdraw to the Court for the Court’s in camera review and shall not file same until further notice from the Court.

Well folks I don’t think there will be any jury selection starting tomorrow, and as of midnight there has been no objections or request for a hearing on the filing being done under seal…

So what do you think Susan M. Brown needs to be protective from “avoid undue prejudice”?

As soon as we have the Court’s decision, and new dates for jury selection will post it, it is noticeable that no lawyer has filed to just transfer the case to them, as new attorney of record, things that make you go Mmmmmmmmmmmm.

HERE ARE THE THREE LATEST FILINGS:

March 2, 2011 Susan M Brown\'s Answer First Amended Complaint (195)
March 2 , 2011 Motion by Counsel for Susand M. Brown and The Brown Law Firm to Wtithdraw (305)
March 2, 2100 Counsel for Susan M Brwon Motion to File Under Seal Memorandum Reason Withdraw as Counsel (297)

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Now the title got your attention, but it is not funny. Neil McCabe today begins the trial of Jerry Carswell’s lost heart in a cover up by a Harris County hospital. The trial starts today and is expected to last three weeks.

I expect one of the other attorneys to be at Friday’s hearing on the defamation case and I wonder if Lin Wood will be there or in California since he is listed as one of Howard K. Stern’s counsel in that case for depositions to introduce Don Clark and company.. However, Mr. Wood I believe is probably going to be there on Friday because this hearing is so important to his client in Texas.

Back to the lost heart. I have been following these cases for myself because of all of the hospital acquired infections etc. that end up killing people while they are in the hospital that is suppose to save them and I am sharing it with all of you because of the impact on this Friday’s hearing in Houston in the Harris County case of defamation and conspiracy to defame.

The death of a loved one is unbelievably hard to bear, especially when it is sudden and unexpected. It is perhaps even harder when the patient is in the hospital for a supposedly minor condition.

However, a three-month KHOU-TV last fall, November 2009, did an investigation that found evidence of what may be a national problem when it comes to medical records. It seems that some nurses, doctors and administrators have concealed, faked and even destroyed these documents when trouble happens.

Melissa Dorriety Case, Lost hospital records

Melissa, checked into Christus St. Catherine in Houston Texas for diabetes problems. There were no signs to cause her husband of 30 years to worry. Things went well and Melissa was to go home the next morning.

When her husband and son got to the hospital the next morning with bagels in hand to take Melissa home, what they found was horrifying. Melissa could not be aroused from a deep sleep by her husband and son and died soon after their arrival at the hospital. The family will always be haunted that when they, NOT the hospital staff, found Melissa she had one tear running from her right eye and down her cheek.

Melissa Dorriety’s husband, sued Christus St. Catherine but when the medical records were subpoenaed the attorney, Jim Perdue, for her family said one very important medical document was missing. It was the nurse’s worksheet showing Melissa’s condition, including the original medical notes made about her.

Jim Perdue told KHOU-TV, “That may be one thing in an isolated legal case, but not when you see it happening again and again and again.”

Sharon Rogers Case also had missing records

Rogers’ Estate found the same problem of missing hospital records when her Estate sued for medical malpractice, in that a section of her vital sign records during critical hours of her care could not be found.

KHOU-TV found evidence that this is not just one hospital in Houston Texas but during their investigation they found similar accusations regarding various hospitals around the country.

A surgeon in New Jersey removed the wrong lung from a patient. He then changed the medical record afterward, so it appeared he had in fact taken out the correct lung.

That led to New Jersey criminalizing altering or destroying medical records, but in Texas, there is no such law. WHAT??? You can make a deadly mistake and legally lose or change the records to show you did not in Texas?

KHOU-TV investigation they also discovered the Texas Department of Health could not find a record of investigating a single allegation related to concealing or tampering with medical records at any hospital in the state.

Jerry Carswell case is the one beginning a jury trial per the Court’s docket today, August 2, 2010.

I have up the latest filing on that case but read with care it is in fact a horror story and one that left me shaken.
Mr. Carswell entered the hospital through the emergency room with a kidney stone in 2004. He responded well to the treatment but Chritus St. Catherine wanted to keep him a few days to monitor his condition.

The hospital was full so the only bed for Mr. Carswell was in the pediatric ward, not where he needed to be which would have been the adult surgical wing. Early the next morning, the phone rang. Linda his wife has testified that a representative from the hospital asked her to come there immediately because an emergency had developed. Within minutes of her arrival, her life changed forever. Mr. Carswell had died about 5 AM that morning.

However, Carswell’s widow in the midst of her grief was together enough to want an independent autopsy done with the Harris County Medical Examiner’s office. The staff at Chritus St. Catherine told the grieving widow that the Medical examiner’s office had decline to do the autopsy because there was no foul play indicated in the death and instead they shipped Mr. Carswell’s to one of their sister hospitals for the autopsy. Ms. Carwell agreed for the autopsy to be done at the other hospital at the time not knowing it too was owned by Christus. Do you think she got a complete unbiased autopsy, I don’t and the records seem to bear that out.

For those of you who are not familiar with Texas statute, the medical examiner always does an autopsy if asked when the cause of death is unknown. That might have been inconvenient for Christus though because Mr. Carswell died from a drug overdose at the hands of nurses at Christus St. Catherine.

The Harris County Medical Examiner’s office could not find any record of Christus ever calling them to perform the autopsy. It was later found that Mr. Carswell’s body fluids disappeared, after his window asked for them to be saved. No blood or body fluids to test, how convenient for the hospital.

The worst news, though, came nearly two years after Jerry had been buried. His heart had been lost by the hospital and his family never notified.

After Carswell’s family filed suit, under sworn questions, the autopsy doctors said they had removed her husband’s heart and stored it in a container. When the questioning turned to who knew about the decision to remove the heart, the doctor admitted that they didn’t tell the Carswell family they were taking out the organ.

Judge Josefina Rendon of the 165th Court in Harris County issued a rare $250,000 sanction against Christus St. Catherine’s, ruling that the hospital “improperly concealed the heart tissue of Jerry Carswell in a Christus pathology laboratory.” The sanction further said the hospital also concealed blood samples, and determined that Linda Carswell’s case against the hospital had been “severely prejudiced” due to the “improper concealment of critical physical evidence.” The Court is going to give the Jury what is called an inferred direction. That means that because evidence was destroyed the jury has the right to infer that Christus St. Catherine did in fact have something to hide and so destroying evidence had to be considered by the jury hearing the case. This ruling was taken all the way up to the Supreme Court of Texas and they agreed with the trial court’s assessment of the $250,000 sanction.

As a high school coach, Jerry Carswell helped mentor students and develop some of them into professional athletes, like NFL star Bert Emanuel, who would later call Carswell the “best coach ever.”

My mother also in 1978 went into a hospital in Dallas Texas for minor surgery and died two weeks later because of miscommunications between the doctors and the hospital personnel. She died because no doctor prescribed post surgery antibiotics for her and her body became septic in 48 hours following the surgery, they agreed to pay all of the expenses in trying to save her and we agreed not to sue them.

We all know that many of our members have similar horror stories of loved ones lost to a minor condition once they entered the maze of hospitals.

Today the advice that most advocates give is have a medical advocate present to speak for you, to monitor the medication and the attention needed by the patient. It is best if someone can stay 24 hours a day. How sad is that??

So Virgie Arthur’s lead attorney, Neil McCabe, will be in a jury trial come this Friday’s hearing and I predict not before Judge Weiman on multiple Motions pending.

My question though is can a unbiased jury be seated in this medical malpractice case of this magnitude with the Jury Instructions the Court will give? How many of you have horror stories about hospitals or have heard of one?

We will keep you updated on the Howard K. Stern, Dr. Sandeep Kapoor and Dr. Khristine Eroshevich trial as it progresses this week and also update any paperwork on the multiple Motions in both Court and the Appeals Court as they become available.

LATEST FILINGS IN THE TEXAS STATE COURT ON VIRGIE ARTHUR VS HOWARD K STERN, TMZ.COM, LARRY BIRKHEAD, ART HARRIS, HARVEY LEVIN ET AL.

August 2, 2010 Art Harris Emergency Motion to Unseal part of the deposition of Virgie Arthur to become public records with him Motion for Final Summary Judgment.

August 2, 2010 Affidavit of one of CBS’ attorneys in support of Harris Motion to Unseal part of the deposition of Virgie Arthur to become public records with him Motion for Final Summary Judgment.

August 2, 2010 Harris Notice of Submission for Oral Hearing on August 6, 2010 with all of the other things for the Court to decide.

August 2, 2010 TMZ.com and Harvey Leving Second Motion for Final Summary Judgment.

August 2, 2010 TMZ Notice of Submission of Summary Judgment without a hearing for August 23, 2010.

A couple of comments here. Even though Harris and TMZ both refer to Harris’ fling for Summary Judgment yesterday at the same time that TMZ and Levin did for some reason Harris’ Motion has not been filed. Second I think based on what the judge said on March 12, 2010 about how the dates he was setting that day, would be subject to change for multiple reasons with the fact it can take up to 3-5 years in Texas to have a suit go to trial that the Court will grant the Motion for Continuance. THIRD AND FINALLY WE ARE NOT PUTTING UP THE EXHIBITS FILED WITH THE TMZ-LEVIN MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT BECAUSE ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE PAPERWORK ATTACHED IS NOT MARKED AS CONFIDENTIAL THOSE PAPERS CONTAIN VIRGIE ARTHUR’S LIST OF MEDICATION AND I BELIEVE ALSO HER PERSONAL DOCTORS NAME NOT JUST THE EXPERT ANY LIST OF ANYONE’S PERSONAL INFORMATION IS JUST NOT GOING TO GO UP ON THIS SITE SO YOU CAN BROWSE TOPIX TO SEE WHO BUYS THAT AND PUTS IT UP, BUT DON’T EXPECT TO SEE IT HERE. I would not wish for anyone to go through what I did because of an “accident” of filing.

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LATEST FILINGS IN TEXAS ON VIRGIE ARTHUR VS. HOWARD K. STERN, TMZ.COM, LARRY BIRKHEAD, HARVEY LEVIN, ART HARRIS ET AL.

I have not had time to read these because of the hundreds if not thousands of pages filed by Virgie Arthur regarding two days of my deposition last night. The two depositions are in the forums for members as I go through the corrections and exhibits to see what might need to be redacted. Those supplemental filings late yesterday will be going up here part today and the rest tomorrow.

July 30, 2010 Art Harris Second Motion to Compel documents from Virgie Arthur, this is set for submission only for Monday August 16, 2010 at 8:00 AM.

July 30, 2010 Art Harris Exhibit A filed with Harris’ Second Motion to Compel documents from Virgie Arthur, this is set for submission only for Monday August 16, 2010 at 8:00 AM.

July 30, 2010 Art Harris Exhibit B filed with Harris’ Second Motion to Compel documents from Virgie Arthur, this is set for submission only for Monday August 16, 2010 at 8:00 AM.

July 30, 2010 Art Harris Exhibit C filed with Harris’ Second Motion to Compel documents from Virgie Arthur, this is set for submission only for Monday August 16, 2010 at 8:00 AM.

July 30, 2010 Art Harris Exhibit D filed with Harris’ Second Motion to Compel documents from Virgie Arthur, this is set for submission only for Monday August 16, 2010 at 8:00 AM.

July 30, 2010 Art Harris Notice of Submission of Harris’ Second Motion to Compel documents from Virgie Arthur, this is set for submission only for Monday August 16, 2010 at 8:00 AM.

July 30, 2010 Affidavit of Neil McCabe authenticating the supplemental documents filed with the Court on Friday July 30.

July 30, 2010 Day one of Rose Turner’s redacted deposition taken on April 2, 2010.

July 30, 2010 Reporter Certification of day one of Turner’s redacted deposition taken on April 2, 2010.

July 30 2010 Exhibit 002 filed as an exhibit to Turner’s April 2, 2010 deposition.

July 30, 2010 Exhibit 003 filed as an exhibit to Turner’s April 2, 2010 deposition.

July 30, 2010 Exhibit 004 filed as an exhibit to Turner’s April 2, 2010 deposition.

July 30, 2010 Exhibit 005 filed as an exhibit to Turner’s April 2, 2010 deposition.

July 30, 2010 Day four of Rose Turner’s deposition taken on May 12, 2010.

July 30 2010 Exhibit 36 filed as an exhibit to Turner’s May 12, 2010 deposition.

July 30 2010 Exhibit 37 filed as an exhibit to Turner’s May 12, 2010 deposition.

July 30 2010 Exhibit P 3b filed as an exhibit to Turner’s May 12, 2010 deposition.

July 30 2010 Copy of Virgie Arthur’s Memorandum of Law filed earlier in Arthur’s Response in Opposition of the Special Appearance of Bonnie Stern and Art Harris.

July 30 2010 Copy of Virgie Arthur’s Opposition of the Special Appearance of Bonnie Stern and Art Harris.

July 30 2010 Copy of Virgie Arthur’s Opposition of the Special Appearance of Howard K. Stern.

July 30 2010 Copy of Chrystal Baker’s Sworn Statement from 2008

This is everything filed by Virgie Arthur on July 30, 2010 EXCEPT for the hundreds if not thousands of emails between other defendants and me. There is also two parts of the filing that I do not have copies of today.

I will be moving some links and discussions from the previous article to here that relates to Judge Perry’s latest rulings as well as the new non-charged co-conspirators of Anna Nicole Smith and Bonnie Stern. I will include my thoughts on the recent rulings later today.

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July 31, 2010
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As the California Criminal Trial of Howard K. Stern, Dr. Sandeep Kapoor and Khristine Eroshevich looms for August 4, 2010, the Estate of Anna Nicole Smith tightens the noose on four major witnesses.

You have to wonder if this will affect the credibility of Ford Shelley, G. Ben Thompson, Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson as well as attorney Susan Brown. It also appears that Magistrate Judge Thomas E. Rogers III for the South Carolina Federal Court decided to issue this Order without need of a Hearing.

On July 1, 2010 the Court in South Carolina issued an Court Order allowing the addition of Gaither Thompson II, Gina Shelley, Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia. The new defendants have twenty one (21) days to answer the Amended First Complaint so don’t look for this to go to trial before the criminal charges in California is tried to conclusion.

HERE ARE THE HIGH POINTS I FOUND IN THE COURT’S SEVEN (7) PAGE ORDER

“Plaintiff asserts causes of action for conversion, wrongful taking of estate property in violation of California Probate Code § 850, et seq., statutory and common law commercial appropriation of right of publicity in violation of California Civil Code § 3344.1, unjust enrichment/restitution, unfair competition in violation of California Business & Professional Code § 17200, et seq., violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5) and civil conspiracy.

That the Estate’s property has been distributed to other entities including Geraldo Rivera with Fox News, the O’Quinn Law Firm, former television journalist Rita Cosby, and the California Department of Justice.

Counsel for Ford has consented to the filing of the proposed Amended Complaint. See Email from MacDonald to Lantta dated October 28, 2009. Thompson has not filed a Response in opposition the motion. The only opposition comes from proposed new Defendants Brown and the Law Firm. 1 Brown argues that allowing the amendments would be prejudicial to her and would be futile as to the claims against her. Brown does not appear to oppose the addition of Gaither, Melanie and Gina as Defendants in this action or to the addition of factual allegations regarding Ford’s distribution of Estate property to other third-parties.

[Brown] argues that she would be prejudiced due to the fact that she has not had the opportunity to participate in discovery as a party. However, in his Response, Plaintiff asserts that he is not opposed to amending the deadlines in this case to allow Brown to conduct discovery.

Brown argues that, as former counsel in this case, she is immune from the claims Plaintiff seeks to allege. Generally, an attorney is immune from liability to third persons arising from the performance of his or her professional activities as an attorney on behalf of and with the knowledge of his or her client. See Hunt v. Mortgage Electronic Registration, 522 F. Supp.2d 749, 758 (D.S.C. 2007). However, both Thompson and Ford testify that they did not authorize her to distribute Estate property to the O’Quinn Law. Firm.

The Clerk of Court is directed to file the Amended Complaint, which is attached as an exhibit to Plaintiff’s Motion. Plaintiff must serve the Amended Complaint within 15 days of the date of this Order. Defendants must respond in accordance with the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Ok after reading the First Amended Complaint I see this is the same exhibit filed with the Court in September 2009, so nothing new here; just has not read it in almost a year.

FILINGS ON JULY 1, 2010 WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA COURT.

July 1, 2010 Court Order allowing the First Amended Complaint to include Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1, 2010 First Amended Complaint filed by the Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit A filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit B filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit C filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit D filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit E filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit F filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit G filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit H filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

July 1 2010 Exhibit I filed with First Amended Complaint by he Estate of Anna Nicole Smith adding Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson and the attorney Susan Brown and her Law Firm in Atlanta Georgia

Summons to Serve on Gina Thompson Shelley, Gaither Ben Thompson II and Melodie Thompson

Summons to Serve on Susan M. Brown and the Law Offices of Susan M. Brown

LATEST FILING IN THE TEXAS CASE I have not had time to read any of these papers.

July 7, 2010 Virgie Arthur’s Response to Art Harris Motion to Compel Production.

July 7, 2010 Virgie Arthur’s Exhibit A filed with Response to Art Harris Motion to Compel Production.

July 7, 2010 Virgie Arthur’s Exhibit B filed with Response to Art Harris Motion to Compel Production.

July 7, 2010 Virgie Arthur’s Exhibit C filed with Response to Art Harris Motion to Compel Production.

July 7, 2010 Virgie Arthur’s Exhibit D filed with Response to Art Harris Motion to Compel Production.

NEWEST FILINGS IN THE VIRGIE ARTHUR VS. HOWARD K. STERN BREACH OF CONTRACT.

July 1, 2010, Howard K. Stern’s Special Appearance to Object to personal jurisdiction.

July 1, 2010 Stern’s Exhibit A filed with Stern’s Special Appearance to Object to personal jurisdiction.

For now we are NOT going to buy these papers due to cost, if it gets traction after the beginning of the Criminal trial or the August 6, 2010 hearing on Stern’s Special Appearance, then we will begin to purchase these papers as well.

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July 6, 2010
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I am not putting up Art Harris Filing the First Court of Appeals Decision to the Supreme Court of Texas as it is the same as what was sent to Judge Weiman of the 80th Harris County District Court.

TERESA STEPHENS FILING IN TARRANT COUNTY FEDERAL COURT

March 1, 2010 Stephens Motion for Relief from Judgment and reopen case or file an Appeal.

March 1, 2010 Stephens Brief in Support of Relief from Judgment and reopen case or file an Appeal.

March 22, 2010 CNN and Time Warner Response to Stephens Motion from Relief from Judgment and reopen case or file an Appeal.

April 8, 2010 Order Denying Motion for Relief and Appointment of counsel for Stephens.

TERESA STEPHENS FILING IN TARRANT COUNTY DISTRICT COURT

April 13, 2010 Stephens Motion to Vacate Order of Dismissal.

April 16, 2010 O’Dell’s Response to Stephens Motion for Continuance.

April 16, 2010 O’Dell’s Motion Compel and Sanctions for Stephens and Glenn.

April 19, 2010 Vice Response to Stephens Motion to Vacate Dismissal.

April 19, 2010 Vice Exhibit 1 Response to Stephens Motion to Vacate Dismissal.

April 19, 2010 Vice Exhibit 2 Response to Stephens Motion to Vacate Dismissal.

April 19, 2010 Vice Exhibit 3 Response to Stephens Motion to Vacate Dismissal.

April 19, 2010 Vice Exhibit 4 Response to Stephens Motion to Vacate Dismissal.

April 19, 2010 Vice Exhibit 5 Response to Stephens Motion to Vacate Dismissal.

April 19, 2010 Vice Exhibit 6 Response to Stephens Motion to Vacate Dismissal.

NEWEST FILINGS HARRIS COUNTY VIRGIE ARTHUR VS. HOWARD K. STERN

April 28, 2010 Art Harris Response to Virgie Arthur Motion to Compel Discovery.

April 28, 2010 Art Harris Exhibit C Response to Virgie Arthur Motion to Compel Discovery.

April 28, 2010 Art Harris Exhibit D Response to Virgie Arthur Motion to Compel Discovery.

April 28, 2010 Virgie Arthur Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Declaration Neil McCabe Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Virgie Arthur Affidavit Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit B Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit C Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit D Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit E Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit F Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit G Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit H Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit I Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit J Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit K Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit L Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit M Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit N Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit O Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit P Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit Q Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit R Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit S Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit T Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit U Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

April 28, 2010 Arthur Exhibit V Response to TMZ – Harvey Levin Summary Judgment.

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It has been brought to my attention that a blogger on another site that I have great respect for is under a misconception of the Texas State Statutes. Yes I know most of you think we should leave the U. S. and it would be good riddance, However do not judge all of us on sound bites made to make us look like ignorant yokels. My deposition is not over until every party’s counsel gets to ask me every question they want to. Lawyers have jobs, it is not normally personal with them it is what they do for a living. Their ethics require them to be the fiercest advocate for their respective clients, and that is why the lawyers in this case are some of the best in the nation and make those mega bucks.

Texas Statute governing Depositions versus Federal Statues. As we always encourage each of you that read at Rose Speaks.com, let Google be your friend.

A Sworn statement cannot be used at trial in Texas a deposition can be used in Texas in trial.

For use at trial, all parties need a deposition, not a sworn statement. Sworn statements and affidavits are useful for some purposes, such as to support or defeat a special appearance or a motion for summary judgment, but they are not admissible at trial. A deposition is admissible at trial in a civil case.

Here are the statutes governing deposition versus a witness or a party that is not available for trial.

TEXAS RULES OF EVIDENCE

As amended through January 1, 2007

Rule 801. Definitions

The following definitions apply under this article:

(a) Statement. A “statement” is (1) an oral or written verbal expression or (2) nonverbal conduct of a person, if it is intended by the person as a substitute for verbal expression.

(b) Declarant. A “declarant” is a person who makes a statement.

(c) Matter Asserted. “Matter asserted” includes any matter explicitly asserted, and any matter implied by a statement, if the probative value of the statement as offered flows from declarant’s belief as to the matter.

…(3) Depositions. In a civil case, it is a deposition taken in the same proceeding, as same proceeding is defined in Rule of Civil Procedure 207. Unavailability of deponent is not a requirement for admissibility.

FEDERAL RULES OF EVIDENCE

As amended through December 1, 2009

Rule 804.

(a) Definition of unavailability. “Unavailability as a witness” includes situations in which the declarant- ….

…(4) is unable to be present or to testify at the hearing because of death or then existing physical or mental illness or infirmity; ….

…(1) Former testimony. Testimony given as a witness at another hearing of the same or a different proceeding, or in a deposition taken in compliance with law in the course of the same or another proceeding, if the party against whom the testimony is now offered, or, in a civil action or proceeding, a predecessor in interest, had an opportunity and similar motive to develop the testimony by direct, cross, or redirect examination.

With that said, I will share only a tad of my answers today during the fist session of my deposition.

1. It was videotape for the Court and/or jury trial in fact the lawyers continued to say “Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury”, I asked why since there was no jury there today and learned something new about why attorneys say that in Texas if not in every state.

2. I have consistently maintained that I believe that Howard K. Stern got a raw deal in Florida, and I continue to repeat that as I did several times today.

3. I had no reason to believe that Stern has not been honest, forthcoming and sincere in all of the discovery in this or any other case I know about.

4. As I said today and made it clear I would continue to say even on my death bed, there is no defamation and no conspiracy to defame.

With that said, some of the defendants do not have clean hands, and some of them have made this very difficult in both money and time because they have not been forthcoming in my opinion.

AGAIN LET ME SAY I AM NO ONE’S STAR WITNESS, I AM NOT ON ANYONE’S SIDE IN THIS. As a matter of law the court did find I had colluded with Virgie Arthur’s counsel which is not illegal in Texas and so stated during it’s July or August Written Order, HOWEVER THAT SAID there is also no doubt in my mind that CBS’ attorneys did collude with Art Harris in order to piggy back off of him to come into the case early. AGAIN IN MY OPINION THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. The Court of Appeals in Texas in the Flack decision also stated that a defendant can be settling with nothing nefarious going on between the parties.

I did lean today from one of my co-defendants attorney that any of the defendants can file to keep me in this case, although the attorney who shared that with me indicated they would not be going in that direction, I did need to be aware of that.

I have NOW posted my Settlement Agreement with Ms. Arthur in the members only forum section. I have done this because although I have the right to keep that private from the public and the members of this site, I have insisted that it be made public for all to see, because I have always said I will be transparent. I will also ask when it is appropriate based on some of the information deemed confidential and/or covered by the Agreed Protective Order that a transcript of my deposition also be released to the public for all to read.

PLEASE ALSO CHECK THE NOTICE OF THE SERVER WE ARE WITH WILL BE DOING MAINTENANCE OVER TWO NIGHTS THIS WEEKEND.

Ken and I wish all of you a blessed Easter and hope each of you are with those you love.

Be sure to participate in our MEMBERS ONLY FORUMS, get the most out of the site by learning your way around in the forums where you can safely discuss things you do not want to see copied and pasted on another site.

©Rose Turner
April 2, 2010
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After the hearing on March 11, 2010 before Judge Bonnie Sudderth of the 352nd District Court in Tarrant county, an Order to Dismiss was issued by the Court yesterday. I asked Wilma Vicedomine for a personal one on one interview and she granted that.

The one rule was that we would not talk about the Harris County case other than to say that Don Clark and Ms. Vicedomine would continue as independent consultants on certain cases as needed by the O’Quinn Law Firm during what appears to be a rather large transformation of the direction of the firm. So if you are looking for any “inside” information or my opinion of the Harris County case this is not the article for you. I remain with ALL counsel and/or parties a “Respectful Adversary”.

Ms. Vicedomine made two statements up front at the beginning of our interview. The first she was thrilled and felt great about her attorney Jonathon Stoger taking the lead in Court today; she felt “Great” at the outcome today and said she thinks Mr. Stoger is brilliant.

Ms. Vicedomine then surprised me by saying on the heels of that statement that she feels Teresa Stephens continues to have a valid case against some of the bloggers from TMZ going back to 2007. Vicedomine felt that once it began to appear that Stephens added people she was angry with, and had no valid complaint against them, was the undoing ultimately of Stephens’ case.

I was amazed that she said both in the same sentence.

We then returned to a conversation she and I had shortly after I was served with Stephens’ suit at the end of October 2009. I found myself added because of anger and not something I had done. Stephens admitted that even in emails saying, I had never written anything bad about her nor had I ever said anything to her that was bad, but I was added “because of what others were telling her I said.” I felt devastated about that and Stephens and I had some frank phone conversations and email exchanges concerning that.

Vicedomine could tell at the beginning of November 2009 my voice sounded tired and she expressed sincere concern that was shocking in itself when you hear some of the mantra of the “I am not sick” or the opposite why didn’t I do the world a favor and just “check it all in”. Vicedomine began to check up on me about every ten days and as I became weaker I heard sincere concern in her voice. She tried to kid with me about the “respectful adversary rules” we had established and she noticed I was having trouble following the conversation or staying focus. I then began to not be able to eat a lot of things I had before and the final blow was that coffee even made me sick.

Ken and I made a conscious decision after talking that he would take over more of the interaction on the blog; that we would ask guest writers like John J. Nazarian and Daniel DiCriscio to cover for me with their great articles. Ken’s family knew and Roxanne and Heath knew and tried to take up some of the slack and I continue a downhill spiral. I just could see no way that any of this would ever end, as one suit slowed down the other one blazed up. The paperwork was overwhelming and frankly life was just not that satisfactory. I had to spend more time too sick to write articles and had to spend more and more time in bed, and my two beautiful yellow labs sensed something was going on and both would lie next to me for hours.

Yet Wilma Vicedomine continued to call to check on me… WHY??? There was nothing to get from me, so why did this “evil enemy” continue to call and seem concerned. At one time she said, “Rose I am not a monster, in times like this all of us must be humanitarians and that applies to me the big bad Wilma Vice.” I thought about it and had my doubts, and yet she continued to call. As my health went down she would encourage me to hold on and to say there would be a light at the end of the tunnel and I thought “yea sure”.

When O’Dell filed her Counter Complaint and began to serve people with subpoenas for video depositions it appeared to me that the tunnel became darker. Then came the day the Hang Out forum posts were sent to me by a “cyber angel” with the information of how to contact the Irish Server and get that information for Court if needed. Again an adversary but someone on the inside that just did not think this should be done to do a video deposition of someone sick or a private person as O’Dell began to look for others to take depositions. This adversary wanted nothing except to level the “playing field”, nothing more. By the way that new server that the Hang Out is once again trying to cloak itself in secrecy someone you “trust” is still among you and contacted me that although you think you are on a safe server in Italy. that server had a Designated Agent in the U. S. to serve for records of the newest “plans” and the ongoing mantra of getting other bloggers. I will never give up the name of this person because they asked me not to, they did not want to get dragged into this mess but they just thought it should be fair and that I should know they wanted a video for You Tube. You know who you are and I owe you, I will never forget your courage to send me that information and risk being ostracized by your “fellow secret bloggers”.

However back to Vicedomine when she next called to check on me she learned of those subpoenas and that they were asking for it to be on video, she sounded sincerely angry and told me to hold on and let her do some checking around. She kept calling me to check on my health, how strange is that??? Vicedomine sounded determined and sure enough she kept her promise waived being served with the papers for the lawsuit, and entered the case. She knew there would be costs to her in preparation and charges for an attorney. That did truly amazed me and then one night she called and said “Rose hang on, I am going to have my lawyer throw out both Stephens and O’Dell’s lawsuits, hang on I promise you I am not lying and I am going to do this”.

Today her lawyer took the lead in Court and she kept her promise, the cases were not severed, or just the Harris County people dismissed, or Stephens and O’Dell could battle it out. Vicedomine wanted to stop O’Dell in her tracks, all because someone sent me that “Hangout forum comments”. When I asked her why, her simple answerer was “it is just the right thing to do”. I got the impression it was a tad personal not with Stephens for Vicedomine but with O’Dell, go figure. Vicedomine says just as she is paying all of her legal fees, O’Dell has to pay all of her own costs including all three lawyers. Vicedomine is still checking to see if she can retrieve some of her legals costs, even if O’Dell is the only one with money to go after.

At the end of our talk today on the phone when I asked her for this interview, she wanted two things stressed, she did this because “it was the right thing to do” and she still maintains that Stephens does have a valid case, it just got out of hand and so it was stopped.

Was Vicedomine lying to me these months? Did she come to the aide of other bloggers that were being hunted down and subpoenaed for the fun of it? Did she do it because of the continued hunt for Lucky as the rumors and the Hang Out forum stated?

Those answers will remain a doubt in many minds, but what if for a few months personal battles were put aside and Vicedomine did this for my health because “it was the right thing to do”.

I am going to enjoy spring and contemplate that even behind a computer monitor; those we think are pure evil do surprise us. Now Wilma Vicedomine and I will return to being “Respectful Adversaries” but the kindness shown to me as my health failed because it was simply “The right thing to do” will stay with me for a very long time. Neither of us has changed our positions in the Harris County suit but she showed a great kindness and in my book she is a true humanitarian especially on the Tarrant County case.

UPDATE OF THE MEANING OF THE TERM IN THE COURT ORDER OF “All costs related to the claims are taxed against Plaintiff.” THAT IS NO RELATING TO ATTORNEYS FEES IT IS THE COURT COSTS (I. E. filing fees, service, etc.) THAT THE COURT INCURRED IT IS A COMMON TERM AND HAS LITTLE MEANING. SO EVERYONE IS PAYING THEIR OWN ATTORNEYS FEES, INCLUDING O’DELL FOR HER THREE LAWYERS

At Rose Speaks we try to present all sides as long as it is done with manners and using that gray matter between your ears, but this to me needed to be said this night that for the first time I enjoyed two cups of coffee.

By the way Ms. Contrary is NOT in the know as she wants all to think. If she says I am not sick or that I am not on dial-up perhaps she should contact Wilma, I think she will vouch for me. If you doubt this was a win for Wilma and a huge loss for Einy, again ask Wilma to spell that out for you very carefully and very slowly.

Be sure to participate in our MEMBERS ONLY FORUMS, get the most out of the site by learning your way around in the forums where you can safely discuss things you do not want to see copied and pasted on another site.

©Rose Turner
March 11, 2010
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