Rose speaks

Oh Rose! I agree! I am ready for the debunking of the last chapter in that book!
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So let’s see… RC’s legal eagles are stating that there are 19 separate ‘alleged’ passages in the book that the other side is stating as ‘libelous’.
(false statements)
They say that Rita’s citing of all the laws that pertain to this case will: “…be unusually substantial.”
Which I gather means a truckload full!

Then they proceed to enlighten the Court with all of their defenses they will try to use:
>lack of actual malice
>certain of the passages in question are not defamatory
>other passages are substantially true or by law are considered a protected opinion of the author
>due to overwhelming ‘negative’ news stories that had been published on HKS (plaintiff) He (Howard) is libel proof…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation (middle of the page)
“Such a claimant could be said to be “libel-proof,” since in most jurisdictions, actual damage is an essential element for a libel claim. Essentially, the defense is that the person has a bad ‘Reputation’ before the libel, hence there was no further ‘Damages’ by the statement.”

[remember these theories are what they will TRY to make the Court believe, HKS has Lin to
disprove all of these defenses of the defendants; with his points of law and his efforts to show that the people who gave this information had an agenda to take down HKS]

*KEY is the letter that WARNED THEM to not put the book on the shelves for sale! The infamous letter that stated many of the statements in the book were false and libelous!

So, this filing is asking that the Judge allow 35 more pages (total 60) and the Judge gives them fifty.
Interesting that Hachette is sticking to their standard 25 pages, and the Judge says that HKS side must stick to a 25 page response back to Hachette. Though, in all fairness the Judge allows HKS 50 pages to respond back to Rita’s legal eagles!
Total in all: 75 pages for HKS and team to respond to their defenses of defamation against him.

I hope that all of these pages that Rita’s lawyers are going to file will end up just like all the ones that O’Quinn filed! In the end they will prove nothing! There are not any laws that I know of that can excuse her for promoting those lies over and over on TV…
and to add insult to injury >>>> Her damn web site: ritacosby (dot) com > is Still promoting that book. Last time I checked there (you have to click on her name in the middle after loading) She had all of those statements from LB on there popping up and those big red letters stating ‘FALSE’ across the screen.

*You WOULD THINK since she is in litigation for defamation of these false allegations… She would have a ‘clue’ to take that down for now! Oh, maybe this is the part where the suitcase of rocks comes into play?

Oh yeah we are on a roll now. Rose loved the “real ambitious blond” it suits her but it seems as though she was “overly ambitious” as far as believing those un-named source’s who contributed to her book of smut. I will be waiting patiently for those words she put on paper to come back and bite her in the ass.

Me also JMApeople need to learn they can’t get away with those kinds of things without facing the courts.I still laugh when I remember RC saying they had to prove the things she said were not true,seems to me she has to prove they are true LOL

pps can’t wait for that last chapter either Thanks Rose

Beth I have never been to Rita’s site. Seriously, she has all of that going on even after the lawsuit was filed? Either she thinks she is invincible or she really is as dumb as a “suitcase of rocks.” I do remember how none of the bigger news media shows did not want her coming on and promoting her book and talk about how stupid [not their exact words] it was that she stooped herself to that level.

hmm, I agree Rita is the one who will have to do the proving not Howard not Larry or anyone else she may have added in the book.

I am wondering if Rita is going to take the same route as O’Quinn, have the “settlement sealed” so she does not look like a big ass to her peers. I am sure others are hoping that it is sealed due to it helps them with their delusions that Lin Wood has lost every case filed for Howard. You know like their delusion that Howard must have lost to O’Quinn, which must be the reason the settlement is sealed.

I am no Einstein but the stupidity in some truly amazes me.

Beth

I believe the actual malice will be proved with the O’Quinn connection, the obvious agendas, rita bribing witnesses, etc. The thing that irks me is this author opinion thing. Rita went on TV and stood by that book and it’s supposed ‘TRUTH’ in her interviews. This book had no inclination that these were the author’s opinions, she stated them as facts over and over again. It would almost be hilarious to see the LACK of interviewing techniques she used (such as the media does) whereas the just listen to the first person that will talk and no investigative journalism used. Her not bothering to call any of the people in which she wrote about as well proves malice IMO. She didn’t want the other side for a reason, the agenda with O’Q, to bring HKS down at all costs.

Still love to see the Virgie connection in all this as Wilma had to confess Virgie’s role in this as well. Which I believe is prominent.

It’s funny how the Ney York case has been almost forgotten. I hope it goes well for HKS serves as a lesson to other media identities to be more careful with their words in the future.

Oh Boy, every time Rose mentions debunking the book you know what hits the fan. I hope those people remember
it is the Christmas season.

un-named source, I thought Greta said it was Wilma Vice

I just wanted to repost this here from last blog.. i didnt see the new blog up then

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Butterfly,
Indeed > Actual malice! You have stated some excellent points that I truly think will be clear and therefore proved to the Court quickly.
By O’Quinn settling w/ HKS (even though it is sealed) shows all future Courts that Howard was wrongly defamed and accused….

SO, it sure didn’t help that O’Quinn, Virgie, and didn’t Don Clark even attend that big book party in New York for Rita’s Book of Lies?
I also agree with you about the ‘author’s opinion’ defense! Rita’s big mouth in all of her interviews on TV stops that one COLD!
I remember her stating that everything was true, she said she didn’t ask the other side (HKS & LB) because she knew they would deny the story, and so on…
HER GOOSE IS COOKED! } just in time for the Holidays!

Off to watch the ‘Mentalist’… Oh My! That actor; Simon Baker is a doll! I saw him on a talk show the other day, he was born in Tasmania and has an Australian accent. He married a actress who is friends w/ Nicole Kidman. I think he is a dream!

Interesting article regarding CRIMINAL LIBEL charges… I think there should be more…

http://jezebel.com/5101079/insulting-your-ex-its-all-about-you

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/02/tech/main4642398.shtml?source=RSSattr=SciTech_4642398

“blacken the memory of someone that is dead” I found some of those comments on TMZ’s new thread about ANS’s birthday disgusting and outside of wondering if it was just some haters continuing or are their really people out there so insensitive?

I wish AP would put sources, such as the actual lawsuit, criminal complaint, etc. in their articles. Considering its obvious (OR SHOULD BE) that they took the time to read it, as to quoting particulars, where people can judge with accuracies and not thwarted journalism. As in this particular case at the bottom of the article it reverts back to an earlier ’similar’ (so it says) case where the AP, etc filed objection with freedom of speech. But the original case NEW case it is citing is OBVIOUS libel, both the ’sexual favors to pay for an atty’ AND “CPS involvement of child endangerment’ [SOUND FAMILAR?] Anyways, the 2 cases to not seem to be related as the second case seems to have NO RELATION to the first one as far as damaging. Just so much omission and addition of unrelated things that the AP and other wire services need to begin providing documentation to back up their statements so readers can form their own opinions and seek their own facts.

Sorry for the rambling, but classic case of an article that does not go together, tidbits hear and there, etc.

I wish they would just get rid of the wire services all together and let journalism be what it should be.

I wonder what happened with this case that was linked off to side from earlier 2008 [comments r right on as well IMO]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/19/tech/main3951612.shtml?source=related_story

This case will settle too IMO and I’d be willing to bet sealed as well.

I can’t see VA’s going any where either.

Wow, I had a hard time getting into the site today, anyone else.

butterfly [8] I believe Virgie is involved in this big time. It is so ironic how she and Rita became BF’s in what seemed like overnight.

Oh, yes how can we forget those that Rita tried to bribe and how it is all on tape? Wonder if those tapes are going to be used as evidence.

Beth
That makes me think of all the times I have read “we know nothing about HKS before Anna’s death. It’s like he didn’t exist.” They say those things trying to make him look bad or sneaky but I would love for HKS to be able to use that as proof that he didn’t have a bad rep. and most people didn’t know who he was. He was usaully just refered to as “Anna’s lawyer” and he was always in the side lines out of the spot light.

JMA, I also had problems getting onto the site.

Roxanne, that’s the way I see it. most of America had no idea who the man was until Anna died. Most of America did not watch Anna’s
reality show. He was on Larry King with her but he was referred to as Anna’s lawyer and best friend.

NCUser, I agree it will end up being an out of court settlement, which most likely will be sealed. Also, agree, Virgie’s frivolous suit is not going to go as she wishes it would. I hope the Defendant’s have requested she pay all their legal fees. Wonder if John will pay that expense for Virgie.

I wish all these settlements weren’t sealed, I don’t see how this is helping Howard and still wonder where this is going.
I still go back to Wood original statement about being open and still feel Howard is not being served in his best interest.

BETH——-Who is kidding who?As a journalist,by now,Rita Cosby should know what constitutes malice,Why in the world would Rita have made a trip to the Bahamas,and why was Don Clark and Wlma,making statements like the nannies said there was a sex tape and how did that statement get in Rita,s book.?No facts verified except for Don Clark and Wilma.What sold Rita,s book was a promise of a sex tape,The public could not get enough of that filth,If there was no malice in what she was writing,why did she not confirm her facts FIRST. and the malice was also in trying to influence,the bahama court,as the bahamas do not like the gay lifestyle.I have always believed Rita rushed the book ,because of the inquest,that is just my opinion.

Roxanne I saw something the other day where it was said maybe he was so bad [got into a lot of trouble] as a teen that could be why nothing can be found due to all his juvenile records are sealed. Some people will come up with the stupidest crap just to try to fit in with others.

Beverly, you are right Rita should have known and yes why did Clark and Wilma claim the Nannies’ told of a tape but did not get any proof to bring back for Rita. Oh, well as I said there is proof of Rita trying to bribe in order to get something to back up her lie.

Oh yes JMA! That infamous alleged sex tape! The ‘tape’ NEVER existed except in Jackie Hatten’s quest for REVENGE! I believe that it started with her lie, and Clark, Wilma, the Texas team and Rita just ‘went with it’!
It is absolutely absurd!
As for Rita ‘bribing’ those nannies… That is CRIMINAL! I believe even if she settles the State of NY where she lives has the right to file charges on their own. Even if it happened in the Bahamas, she broke the law and lives in NY. I would bet that part of the settlement is that HKS doesn’t file criminal charges on her that does not mean that the nannies cannot file against her for those illegal actions. Then there is the meeting with Patrick & Pol. Rita needs to be railed in by her attorneys! They finally got her to quit talking on air about it, or rather her getting busted by Lincoln Bain > ‘shamed’ herself into finally being quiet.
Believe me I have Not missed her at all on TV!
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Roxanne - (#21) That is very smart to use those words against them! Yes, he was not that well known in the public even when Anna was alive. The only thing I could think of would be the reality show of Anna’s that he was on, but still he was not the main character of that show…
I truly believe the main thing here in all of these cases is the ‘Conspiracy’ to take down HKS by all of these players that are connected.

* It is almost hilarious that the Texas team uses the term conspiracy in those Texas suits! The only conspiracy is the one they are involved in! There is NO WAY that CBS, TMZ, this site, Art, HKS ect… got together to get Virgie! She is not worth anyone’s time in my opinion. She never was even close to ever getting that child; she lost nothing, as she had nothing.
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Beverly,
You are right. Rita does know what constitutes malice and forethought! She has no excuse! The Court only needs to look at her journalist’s record over the last twenty years… She knew exactly what she was doing! I really feel that the NY case will settle faster than the Florida case did! Just wait until they get to the point where the Judge decides if the information is sufficient to go to trial! NY will move even faster than Florida, due to the fact O’Quinn Law firm is not involved to slow the process. JMO on this case.

I am actually very interested in the case against Jackie Hatten. She is one of the first and worst ’instigators’ of how all this defamation started. I wonder if Mark Speers will give up Opri in his depos? I have a feeling that these cases will not be sealed!
I would like to see the case with Opri and Larry get finished, and those SC boys and everyone involved in stealing from Anna need to spend a very long time in jail for Grand Larceny! At least this is what I hope for!

Exactly Beth. She never had a chance of custody with Dannielynn and it’s not because of any media or bloggers. It is because, like him or not, Larry is a good father. She is happy and loved. He keeps her clean and feed, etc…… There is nothing there for VA to grab hold to and show any kind of proof that he is an unfit father. My opinion’s of him have changed in some ways. I think he “won the lottery” so to speak and I really wish he wasn’t doing a reality show with her but he wouldn’t have one without her. No one cares about him. LOL It’s Dannielynn everyone feel in love with and prayed for. It’s Dannielynn that people want to see her continued healthy, happy and smiling face. But, I do believe that he is in total love with his child. I do believe he has a right to earn a living and if he see’s fit to do it in such a way then who am I to say he is wrong for it.

One more thing….. I predict the Rita case to go all the way to trial. I believe it is the “BIG” one. It’s the one where the truth about so many things have a chance to come out. Personally I think, even if he wins no money, if he is able to take it to trial and not have it all under seal that will be his vindication. Having the truth come out.

#29 “It’s Dannielynn everyone feel in love with and prayed for. ”

EXACTLY!

BETH—JMA—-When I stop and think how,Virgie OQ Don Clark,Rita, and Speers,stood in front of the cover of the book,and posed for the camera,my blood pressure goes off the scale.I do not know about the judge,but to know your book was written with facts NOT being substantiated,is downright MALICE,To smile and party down,after you have written a book of lies,to me it is like someone starting a fire and standing by watching and enjoying it.(firebug).they get a sick pleasure waching there handy work.THE ONLY REASON that book sold,and Rita was well aware of this,is the sex tape that never existed,she needed a (explosive)come and buy my book,Rita also thought it would never come to this, THE BEST LAYED PLANS OF MICE AND MEN

EVERYONE

Rose is without power currently. They have a big storm going thru and don’t know how long they will be down but hopefully it won’t be long. We have a bad case of the flu going on at my house, Shell has been really sick with it so I haven’t been getting on during the evenings and probably won’t tonight either so if there are any problems get with Heath or Febbie. They are both very capable of handling things.

Thanks for the info Roxanne, I hope everyone makes a real quick recovery at your house. When everyone is feeling better check out the forum and let me know what you think. Take care.

Beth [28] wow I never thought about the criminal aspect of the whole bribing of the Nannies’.

Roxanne [30] you really think it will go to trial. You don’t think Rita will try to have it settled out of court if for anything her reputation as a reporter?

As for the freak, Jackie Hatten the crap she claimed is just that, crap. She made the claims of Howard supposedly prostituting Anna out in a house that she herself had never been in much less knew the layout of while trying to claim how Daniel saw it all take place from his bedroom, No proof
Then adding more fuel to the fire, she goes on to make a disgusting claim about Howard and Larry even though she had never met Larry. She did try and cover her tracks on that one by saying neither Howard nor Larry knew she was there, ha nice try Jackie, again No proof.
Oh, let us not forget when she said she knew Daniel from a very young age and even took him and his friends to school, maybe this is where Missy comes in, will she debunk Jackie’s claim. Jackie goes on to claim she was both his and Dannielynn’s godmother as if no one is around to dispute it!

So Jackie is on the witness list for Rita right; hope so because she is going to make Rita look like an even bigger fool once Lin Wood gets done with the likes of the wannabe Anna Nicole, Jackie Hatten.

JMA,
I just thought of something else…
Remember when it was brought up (prior comments on the blog) concerning Jackie going to Texas? For DWS’s memorial by VA. Either that or the times on TV when Jackie stated she had talked to Virgie, anyway my point is > Jackie started that crap about the tape, Virgie asked Larry; ‘son, does he (Howard) have something on you?…’

Wouldn’t that be a conspiracy in itself?

HELL! HKS & LIN WOOD NEED to ADD Virgie Arthur to that suit w/ Hatten & Speers!
Maybe VA is one of the ‘does’.
I know that Howard said he wouldn’t sue Anna’s bio-mom, BUT HE SHOULD RECONSIDER! IMO

I’m linking this becuz one of our readers is from JudgeWatch. I don’t do politics.

http://gawker.com/5101335/clinton-ineligible-for-secretary-of-state

The commenters on that site are HILARIOUS!

Beth, I could not agree more, This is just my opinion but I think after seeing the ET video that Anna did, I don’t think Anna would have any problem with Howard suing Virgie, after all that Virgie has done to smear Anna and Howard, Not to mention the Rita book of lies and how Virgie just loved the book, No caring mother in their right mind would love a book that called her daughter whore etc.., Well imo there is so many things that Howard should sue Virgie for.

Rose, Hope you get your power back real quick, heck send the storm my way, We had alittle rain last week but the news reports I have been seeing says that we are in for a dry winter.

Butterfly, thanks > that was an interesting link!

Liann,
You stated that great! I agree, I bet Anna is up in heaven screaming out; ‘Howard, make that _____ stop!’
There is NO WAY that the Texas team will make their ’story’ even seem believable! That Howard ‘made’ Anna say the mommy dearest stuff…
The absurd story-line that HKS wouldn’t let the horrid bio-mom talk to her daughter… it goes on and on.
The Texas team’s rational on this whole alleged conspiracy theory is something a 10 year old could make up.
It is just sickening; the whole lot of them truly make me want to puke!

About Virgie loving that Book of Lies and praising it at the NY Book Party…
The defense teams in Texas ought to put together a short video > Clips of virgie all decked out praising that crappy book, then someone reading the horrid lines from that book that defame Anna, Howard, & Larry, and end it by showing the same clips of that horrid woman from before the lines were read!

*THAT SURE WOULD SHOW TEXAS THAT THIS PERSON NEEDS TO PAY EACH AND EVERY DEFENDANT SHE WRONGFULLY TOOK TO COURT!
**As the ONLY ONE that defamed Virgie Arthur IS >>>>> VIRGIE ARTHUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JMA
I think Rita may try to settle but I think it will be rejected by HKS. Now, I don’t have anyway to know that. It’s just my gut feeling. It’s his real chance to clear up all the lies and misconceptions. I know it would be better for him to settle to get it over with so he can go on with life but my hope is that, in this case, he takes the long road. About Jackie and her claims of Daniel and Anna and prostitution. It’s been proven that from where Daniels bedroom was downstairs and Anna’s bedroom upstairs, there was no line of sight. There was no way in the world that Daniel could have witnessed anything like that. He simply couldn’t see her bedroom from his.

Liann
Thanks. I’ll go check now and get back to you.

Jackie Hatten is a pawn of Virgie Author’s. Not once did I see Jackie on TV with Larry King say she knew Larry or anything about a sex tape. It wasn’t untill Howard and Larry worked things out did this whole sex tape thing come to the for front. And it started with Virgie on Greta show and Jackie took off with it. Jackie wasn’t even around when Anna met Larry more less ever saw the Studio Hills home. Jackie Hatten and her brother are just used up drugie’s looking for their piece of the media pie, but it will bite them both in the ASS when Woods gets to them. I believe Jackie has been in contact with Virgie when her brother was sent to jail and she was fighting to get him out. Remember on Larry King she said she was on the phone with Virgie when the news came out of Anna’s death. I’m sure she helped Virgie come up with crap Virgie was saying on all the shows she spewed her mouth about Anna. I truly think she and Virgie sat around and thought of all the lies that were put out there about Anna. They are two peas in a pod..

From rosespeaks.com blog article:
http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/2008/11/28/larry-birkhead-helps-howard-k-stern-keep-a-promise-monument-placed-on-anna-nicole-smith-and-her-son-daniel%e2%80%99s-grave-today/#comments
Nov 28 2008
Larry Birkhead Helps Howard K. Stern Keep a Promise, Monument Placed on Anna Nicole Smith and her son Daniel’s Grave Today
Daisy says: November 29th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Sarah, have you ever watched TMZ TV show? They are under the impression they are so much better then the rest of us.
I don’t watch them much, rarely visit their site but when I heard them laughing at some poor actor for having
to shop at the less expensive shops and asking him, “how’s the economy treating you?”,
(laughing at him for falling on hard times) creeps is what came to my mind.
Creeps have been on earth before we got here, will be here after we leave here all we can do is stay the hell away from them.
They do leave a lot of problems for the rest of us to clean up. For me, I am just sick of them, look at the the problems
they are creating.
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Daisy
I’m responding to your comment on this thread to make sure you get to see it.

No, I haven’t watched the TMZ TV Show for the same reason I stopped going to the TMZ.com site. I figured the show would be pretty much like the website. I can only say that my curiosity overuled my brain the day I went to TMZ to see if they had anything about Anna & Daniel’s gravestone.
I should have known that I would just see something there that would make me mad. Hopefully, I will listen to my brain in the future.

I wonder if anyone can tell me if you heard ANYWHERE,one word of these lawsuits on TV,or elsewhere?With the Lorie Drew case all over the networks,I just wonder why Vergie V Bloggers is dead in the water,Could most people believe what most here know,All done for money.MY OPINION I think McCabe was trying to get Virgie face on TV and get more interviews.they have been, and still are talking out of both sides of the mouth.Now if Virgie did not have anything to do with Rita,s book,like helping with a few items in that book,WHY would Virgie be asked to attend a book signing party calling her daughter a (whore) Is that something a( award winning journalist)would just do. Slam at the daughter,and invite the mother to enjoy the party that was doing so.I know this world has gotten SICK but that is over the edge.Virgie Arthur (MOTHER) smiled through the whole party posed, for the camera,and that (B) is worried about her reputation, it is not everyday and mother,can enjoy the fruits of ripping her daughter apart.

I would love to be able to know every detail and hear Rita get her big a$$ threw to the back of the room……I wold love for the details to come out (legally) so Howards name would be clear. However, for those die-hards who continue to bash him….even a fair trial would not matter…a win in court would not matter…there are no circumstances that would make any of them say “man…I was wrong”. The bottom feeders will argue about this until they have no one left to argue with.

So I hope Howard does what’s best for him. And gives them all the finger on his way out.

I wish someone would release that portion of Don Clark’s depo, so I can stop being so dang curious!

NCUser—–You hit the nail on the head.It would not matter to some if the court case was televised,they would come up with the answer they wanted.(in the bahamas,the jury was told what to do )FALSE in Howard v OQ ,Howard got nothing but legal fees,someone would have to be crazy to believe Howard and Lin Wood would just settle for that,after going as far and having all the prove on there side.A full page of the verdict in the New York Post will do for me.and a big smile from Howard and Lin Wood.

Beth [36] I did not know about Jackie going to Texas but I did know about Virgie talking to Mark while he was in prison. From what I understand
Virgie asked him to fill her in on Anna’s life. I had only heard of Jackie later on and had the opportunity to see the interview where she claims she and Onna [Anna]
were best friends. It goes to show just how far Virgie will go to smear Howard, asking a criminal and his freaky sister to fill her in on her daughter’s life. What I
find odd about that is Virgie had to of known neither one of them had been part of Anna’s life for many years so why look them up and have them fill her in on
things that was in the past instead of most recent. There is something definitely fishing about that, them and Missy.

As for Missy if she is a witness for Virgie’s suit I feel she is in for having her entire life while with Anna ripped right open. Once or if they already haven’t Howard’s
team of Attorney’s investigate Missy and show her drug use during her few years with Anna she will not make a credible witness. I would hope the Attorney’s have had
a chance to view her interview as well so the question comes up as to why Anna dismissed Missy and why she [Missy] was so pissed she thought of selling a
video tape [claims she destroyed] of Anna to the media/tabloids. Another reason I feel Missy would not make a credible witness for Virgie is that she wrote
a book, is promoting, befriended bloggers, and claims to have a big project in the works.

JMA

What kind of big project does she hint at? I don’t see how much more you can go in depth about an early 90s relationship?

Sarah, I get what you are saying and sometimes will read there but admit it is less and less. Got a laugh out of you last sentence.

I think it really says a lot about Virgie who is a retired deputy that she would contact a convict in prison who was there for threatening her daughter’s life and beating Anna’s 60 year old neighbor who was coming to her defense. It seems that Virgie really needed to scrape the bottom of the barrel to muster support for her claims against Howard whom she never talked to or met until after Daniel died. Her friendship with the Hattens is really pathetic, and IMO shows what lengths she will go to. Missy is in the same category. It does appear that Virgie can’t find anyone reputable to back her up.

yes Ann it speaks volumes
here is a link to the story
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/feb/19/local/me-hero19

Citizens Recognized for Doing Right Thing Despite Risks

Those who want to spin this into something it’s not…he received an award
“L.A. County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley to make him one of three recipients of the Courageous Citizen Awards in a ceremony Wednesday at the Pasadena Hilton.”

ANN—I think Virgie would use a Billy Goat,if she thought she would get money,I do not believe,she is worried about her reputation at all,She is just trying to fnd of way of extortating money from someone.

Good morning all.
Beverly, I think that Billy has a lot of ‘things’ to hide from his past…
If he hadn’t then they (Texas Team) would have flown him to the Bahamas instead of the letter they wrote for him; concerning his bio-son that he was estranged from.
If they do try to bring Billy into anything public he along with that Missy (I agree w/ JMA) will have their life’s mistakes out there for the Court to see, which everyone has mistakes… but the Court will see CLEARLY as to WHY Anna DID NOT WANT THEM in her life.
ANYTHING Missy or any potential witness says for VA, will be blown out of the water by that woman who documented Anna’s life on video and tape w/ Anna.
Shoot! Her name excapes me at the moment.

Thanks for the article, Daisy. I hadn’t seen that particular one. It shows the extent of injuries that Anna’s neighbor suffered at Hatten’s hands. Anna must have been terrified. And now Mark Hatten and his sister are Virgie’s best buds. What mother would embrace such persons especially a former LE officer? It does boggle my mind that Virgie can overlook all that because it fits her agenda. It does make me wonder if she loved Anna at all.

butterfly [50] I think it was said she might be doing a documentary/autobiography or something like that. She was flaming over at Topix to all her followers
about something big coming out/in January.

Beth [55] Joyce Wagner

This article seems to me like the lawyer for Rita has broken the rules…..really burns my butt!

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/12/03/2008-12-03_anna_nicole_smiths_pal_howard_k_stern_is.html

I FOUND IT! On a ET link… Picture of Anna & Jackie w/ article…
http://www.etonline.com/celebrities/spotlight/2006/10/37423/index.html

“Anna Nicole’s Close Friend Speaks Out”
“VIRGIE, and other family members — including Daniel’s father, BILLY SMITH — held a memorial service in Mexia, TX, for the late 20-year-old.
Anna Nicole’s good friend, JACKIE HATTEN, was invited by Virgie to speak at the memorial service, and she tells ET’s KEVIN FRAZIER, “I’m so broken up about the situation — a mother, especially one that cares so much as Anna Nicole — to lose her best friend, it’s unfathomable.”
Jackie reports that the ceremony was “amazing,” highlighted by a slide show retrospective of Daniel’s life.”
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Posted October 11, 2006 12:02:00 AM

I KNEW THAT JACKIE WENT TO THAT MEMORIAL, INVITED BY VIRGIE!
NO WONDER ANNA WAS FURIOUS WITH THEM ALL!

Beth I agree there must be something Team Texas is trying to hide concerning Billy Smith. I mean O’Quinn showed compassion for the grieving grandma/mother
so what about the supposed grieving father of Daniel. You are right they could have flown Billy to the Bahamas so he could file his request in person. I would
also, like to know why they did not just bring him to Florida so he could take the stand on behalf of his son and wanting his brought back to the US. My theory is
Billy really did not care that Daniel was buried in the Bahamas and seemed to be satisfied that he and Anna were buried beside each other. I truly feel O’Quinn
rehearsed with Billy on what to say on the phone but instead Billy said what he truly felt. Maybe Billy is not so easily manipulated/swayed as Team Texas had
thought he would be.

Thank you JMA! (#58)

Well, Jackie was sure busy talking a lot at first… Wasn’t she?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1798451/posts?page=1408
“–Jackie Hatten - ANS longtime friend, since 1981, met at a day spa, Daniel’s godmother - Mark Hatten’s sister; pro beach volleyball player; friends with Peter Nygard, houseguest in Bahamas
–Peter Nygard - friend of ANS since 1997, also Jackie Hatten; ex-BF; Canadian fashion mogul; lives on Lyford Cay, aka Nygard Cay
–Vicodin - painkiller ANS used, according to close friend Jackie Hatten; also NCollins; found in Seminole hotel room
–Valium - tranquilizer ANS used, according to close friend Jackie Hatten
–Phenergan - anti-nausea drug used by ANS, according to Jackie Hatten; Nathan Collins saw HKS injecting ANS with it
–Morphine - painkiller used by ANS, according to Jackie Hatten
–Demerol - painkiller used by ANS, according to Jackie Hatten; also allegedly sent to ANS in Bahamas by unnamed Dr other than Kapoor, said not to have been prescribed this Dr, just sent”
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*Not a good sign that Hatten was speaking w/ Opri…
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0702/21/lkl.01.html (middle of the page)
>“KING: You’re on a list of possible witnesses for proceedings in Florida. Given the judge is pushing to make a decision by Friday…”
>“HATTEN: Correct.”
>“KING: … that doesn’t look likely, does it?”
>“HATTEN: You know, I — I really hope I do get called to be a witness. I have actually called three times after speaking with Debra Opri. And she’s told me that Virgie was really distraught and she really wanted me there. And so did Larry. And I really want to help my friends.”

*sorry, I swear I just submitted this post… maybe spam or I am really losing it!

flowerz,
Now how did Thomas Zambito come in possession of the letter Rita Cosby’s Attorney Elizabeth McNamara wrote to Judge Chin? Oh, well she had better have proof Howard’s reputation was already tarnished before Anna or Daniel’s death because that is when the slanders began against Howard.

OMG why the hell would Larry want Jackie in the Florida courtroom when he did not even know her. She and I quote “And I really want to help my friends” so
Jackie’s way of helping the friend is talking smack about them. Again another theory here, when Jackie made her first appearances on television Virgie and Team
Texas was under the impression they had control over Larry. When they came to realize Larry was not so dumb Jackie was the start of the smear campaign.
This is just my take on all this bullshit coming from Team Texas and their hired conspirers’.

JMA,
YES! Excellent question!
“Now how did Thomas Zambito come in possession of the letter Rita Cosby’s Attorney Elizabeth McNamara wrote to Judge Chin?”

That might just very well put a gag order on this case… IMO.

Well, I have a bunch to do today… be back in a bit. Have a good day!

BETH—-Weather Billy Smith,speaks or not,Anna was Daniel sole support,and Anna chose the bahamas for Daniel to be buried,Billy Smith,if he had any objections should have spoken to Anna before Daniel was buried,I would assume,because Billy Smith was no where in his sons life,Mother wishes should stand.I do not think there was any court action to bring Daniel to Texas until Virgie found out, Anna and Daniel were to be buried together,and in order to get Anna ,they had to dig up Daniel.I would also asumme Jackie Hatten,will have to prove to the court her statements(which she cannot)so once she cannot,the court will be hard pressed taking anything Hatten has to say as the truth.And if hatten lies once,I WOULD LIKE PERJURY CHARGES.

*Had to pop back in as I couldn’t get that article out of my mind!
Concerning Rita’s lawyer saying that HKS was libel-proof, his reputation was so bad that a false allegation of gay sex couldn’t hurt his reputation…
BULL-SH*T!
There are big movie stars that win all kinds of huge settlements from companies like Star magazine, the National Enquirer, ect… (for stating out-right lies)
Those many statements in the book were FALSE, DEFAMATORY and NO AMOUNT of public recognition of HKS will give them a ’pass’ for out and out LYING!
It was malicious, it was done intentionally, it was done with people like Opri, the Texas bunch, the Hattens, and many more people with their own personal agendas; JUST TO HARM Howard K. Stern.
This is how it looks to me anyway. JMO

I hope Rita’s lawyer gets sanctioned for leaking that crap!

Beverly,
I agree with you.
Yes, the perjury charges truly do seem appropriate for Jackie and many others in these cases.

Bev# 47 I agree with a big sime from both Lin and howard with a thumbs up kind of like how the Texas team did when they wer not supposed to say anything about some of the hearings about Dannielynn.
Beth I would think the Attorney for RC had to give it to him as a source so he wouldn’t have to tell.What I would like to see is RC go to jail on the bribary charges not just fines or a slap on the wrist either.I know I never heard of any of the people involed in this except Anna because of her marriage to Marshall muntill after she passed.
Butterfly thanks for the links,I really missed it when you were not putting them up..Those people at juicy campus have no idea about how someone can be harrassed or mentally hurt by the crap they let go on or they wold not do it,You would think they would know about the the computer case that just finished.Some people just do not get it JMHO

sorry smile and were no supposed

Beverly [66] isn’t it a shame Billy screwed up on what O’Quinn had rehearsed with him during that lunch hour

Beverly you are right Jackie will have to prove her accusation against not just Howard but Larry as well.

Oh, I cannot wait for Lin Wood to cross-examine Jackie Hatten

Beth [67] I think the release of that letter to the judge was another jab at Howard. It was another way to have the public look at him in a bad light.

JMA—–I was sitting on the couch,and almost wet myself laughing,when the call came through from Billy Smith to the court in Florida,good thing I have my own teeth,or I would have lost them.it was so funny,all that planning,and Billy Smith,screwed Team Texas good.which tells me Virgie never bothered with Billy,other than to use him,to try and get what SHE wanted.

Beverly and JMA,
I also remeber Krista Barth smiling and saying something to the effect (to the Judge) SEE your Honor! Even Daniel’s father says that Anna should be buried next to her son! (This is when Billy got all confused on the phone, and Tom Pirtle is trying in vain to intervene and saying; Billy, remember what we talked about…
(or) Pirtle might as well as said… remember what we told you to say????? IMO

Yeah Beverly it was funny but what was funnier was how O’Quinn tried to clean it up by saying to Billy “you remember our phone conversation during the
lunch hour” which made it so obvious Team Texas tried to coach the poor guy. My reaction was, OMG they did not!

Oops, I thought it was O’Quinn who said that to Billy Smith. What a difference a few years makes on the memory.

JMA,
I do not trust my memory!
I thought it was Pirtle, but you may be right…
Somehow I do not see O’Q responding to quick to the actions of the Judge & Billy on the phone…
The Judge made everyone a little confused if you ask me! *Thank God!

And yes Beverly you are right whomever it was, they said “remember what we talked about during the lunch hour” yep seemed as though they were trying
to put the words right into Billy Smith’s mouth.

meant: O’Q responding ‘too’ quickly…

Yeah Beth you could be right about it being Pirtle, O’Quinn does seem a little slow when it comes to responding.

Sorry my response #79 should have been addressed to you Beth #75

This is a cool thing to do with kids & technology. It’s like a Letter to Santa and have a pic ready! Really cool!

http://perezhilton.com/2008-12-04-come-meet-santa-perez

http://www.SitOnSantasLap.com/

I hope every1 had a nice day.

Beth [60]

That’s a really interesting article about Jackie Hatten. I like this part:

“As for Daniel’s final resting place, Jackie believes Anna Nicole will bring the young man’s body to Los Angeles.

“She’s always wanted to have a plot near [MARILYN MONROE's], and I believe one day that’s where they’ll probably both reside.”

Gosh, I wonder why Virgie didn’t want her testifying at the Florida hearing….LOL

That article is dated 10/11/06. Does anyone know when Jackie was in BA trying to see Anna?

Beth [62]

Wow, you’re doing some great research. I’m impressed.

So Jackie wanted to help her good friends, Virgie and Larry.

Ann,
Thank you.
I did read those lines also! Yes! I guess Virgie & team couldn’t ‘use’ her (jackie’s) help either!
(2nd to the last link on here is all I could find on JH going to the Bahamas)
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LOL first Jackie is some kind of athlete (former pro volleyballer), then an actress,
and now a ‘reggae singer’?
Well, according to this article anyway…

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2003604191_hstern07.html
“”Dude was like a little nerd,” says Jackie Hatten, a reggae singer who says she was Smith’s friend for 15 years. Hatten says Smith declared she wouldn’t date Stern “if he were the last man on Earth.” Hatten says the lawyer always gave her a “weird” feeling, which is strange because as a Sagittarius, Hatten likes everyone.
“Like Anna,” Hatten says. “We’re both Sags.”
Alas, that can’t be the final say because Hatten’s word — like that of nearly everyone else in this case — is tainted. Her brother is in prison for threatening Smith, and Hatten claims Stern is responsible.”
“…”
“The facts are skeletal enough to be interpreted in vastly different ways.
“She had a lot of different people in her life,” says Smith’s longtime publicist, David Granoff. “This man had the patience of Job. … I think he loved her.”
“I don’t think he loved her, ever,” Smith friend Hatten says. “I think he was obsessed … just totally obsessed with her celebrity, her notoriety, her fame.”

*An interesting read… Not that I agree w/ everything though.*

Ann, this is all I could find on Jackie going to supposedly see Anna in the Bahamas…
http://w2ww.tmz.com/2007/09/04/birkhead-accuser-hatten-s-a-loser/5
“Birkhead says that former pro volleyballer Jackie Hatten “isn’t a credible source,” and adds that she “tried to come to the Bahamas to see Anna last year and Anna wouldn’t let her … “

Link within the TMZ article above:
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/09/04/2007-09-04_larry_birkhead_fuming_over_lies_gay_sex_.html

Beth,
When Howard filed against Rita Crosby, he had a list for depo, and the nannies from Bahaman were on the list. Did the courts give the nannies the right to give their statement to an official in the Bahamas and have them notarized or witness, and sent to the judge handling the case. I just wanted to be sure I read this correct.

JMA, I have no idea who he is, much less how he got that. It’s not right, though, they are trying to put out lies before the trial starts. I never knew Howard until the ET interview, so they are full of you know what. There is another link I’m going to bring here when I get the chance. Of course, you know where it come from…that link and the other one I’m going to link before long.

The grapevine says that the other site has new documents up for Howard to turn in documents,,,,,supposedly has names on the list of some of bloggers. I did not go to the site to read them, though.

Maybe all those who trusted QV will finally see how she betrayed them and handed over their information. They also prove just how little QV and her “statement” meant to McCabe. There is very little mention of her and it appears that McCabe’s “star” witness is Havana and QV is very minor. You hear that? That’s the last of your 15 minutes falling away. I called Rose to see why we don’t have the papers and Rose said they aren’t avaliable to the public yet. Hmmmm. Wonder how QV got them before a actual defendant has gotten them? It’s kind of sad that QV put up those names of the bloggers after Rose and the other’s have fought so hard for a confidentiality agreement. It’s my understanding that the agreement was signed by the judge on Dec. 3rd and THAT order is publicly available on the Harris Co. Tx. public site. It makes you wonder why QV felt the need to put the papers up the day AFTER the judge signed that order. Rose and the others had just breathed a sigh of relief that they had been able to protect the privacy of ALL bloggers no matter who they support. Qv just comes in with her narcasistic self seeking her last few seconds of fame and puts the names out there for all to see. That list looks familiar. It appears to be a list of QV’s old members from her original site. Wonder how Mish’s name got whitened out? Interesting.

I do have one thing to say. Neil McCabe is a dirty player. Why in the world would he include and email between Rose and Duane that is about the death of Rose’s friend. Not cool and why release it? It only proves how much Rose loved and greived for her friend.

Yes, I was under the impression there was a confidentiality order to protect the bloggers myself? I wonder what happened?

Isnt that author always griping about spelling. Geez

More people to prove otherwise