Can L. Lin Wood Litigate in Front of a Jury and Win?
Posted by Rose in All Things Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith's Will, Bryan Cave LLP, Celebrity Trials, Daniel Smith, Daniel Smith's Inquest, Dannielynn, Debunking the myths on ALL cases related to Anna Nicole, High Proflie Trials, Howard K Stern, Howard and Anna, John O'Quinn, Larry Birkhead, Lin Wood, POGO, Powell Goldstein LLP, The John O'Quinn Law Firm, The O'Quinn Law Firm, Virgie Arthur
There has been a lot of discussion forwarded to me from Topix.net and other sites, alleging that they know what Howard K. Stern settled for in Florida. In part, it is being said that L. Lin Wood was the one to “rush to settle with John O’Quinn and The O’Quinn Law Firm. That Wood settled for just his legal fees to be paid. There is to be no apology or acknowledgement to Howard K. Stern for the falsity or wrongful accusations of murdering Anna Nicole Smith or her son Daniel Smith; holding Dannielynn hostage and that Stern did not even recover enough money, after Wood gets his share, to get a pair of shoes”. What is up about a damn pair of shoes all of the time? This must be an inside joke that I am missing but it appears on every discussion blog/forum/board when ever money and Stern are mentioned together. Why is the term “murderer” still floating all over the internet on forums and topic boards when the suit where the allegations originated is now supposed to be settled in principal?
The other thing that is going around Topix.net and other sites is that L. Lin Wood ALWAYS settles out of court because he does not win litigation if it goes to a jury and has a horrible record of losses when he has attempted to try a case to completion. So let’s play the game of What’s My Record (yes a Rose Speaks original game), and then throw in the term I so love, “let Google be your friend”. Remember when playing this game that good lawyers settle at least 80% of lawsuits out of court. If what is being alleged on Topix.net and other sites has a scintilla of truth, does Powell Goldstein LLP or Bryan Cave LLP have any good trial lawyers? If either firm does have good trial litigators would they add them to Stern’s legal team at this point in the “game”?
My challenge for you if you so choose to accept, (yes a take off on “Mission Impossible” wording), research and tell us what percentage if ANY of cases won by Wood if he goes to trial with a case. Does he win none, does he win some, does he win less that 5%, let us know.
On an update, there was no papers filed in the Florida Court on Friday, November 14 of a joint stipulation of settlement and joint Motion to Dismiss, perhaps Stern has decided he wants “one new pair of shoes” since that seems to be the topic of Topix.net and other sites.
Share with us what you find on L. Lin Wood winning in front of a jury if that is available on the world wide net, and I will check PACER and let you know what I find over the years say since 1990 to present tried to a jury verdict and if tried to a jury verdict the percentage appealed.
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Rose, If I recall on the stand in Fl. HKS mentioned Anna bought his shoes.
We know what they’re like, clearly live in the old days, not today’s more progressive world.
To bad they will be left in the dust. Miss out on so much fun while they stew in their judgment
and anger, poor things, Bless their hearts.
WHAT I FOUND ON GOOGLE IN TWO OR THREE MINUTES!
http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t1518.html
Wood’s name made with Ramseys, Richard Jewell
“ATLANTA — Sitting in his 21st-floor law office overlooking Centennial Olympic Park, Lin Wood is on the edge of his seat, railing against media bias, when his secretary comes in and whispers that Katie Couric is on the line.
Wood relaxes into his chair, picks up the phone and greets the “Today” show anchor by her first name.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2359569
“Although libel cases can take more than a decade to be resolved through the courts — Wood, for example, is currently in his 10th year of fighting the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in the Jewell case — Wood says a false statement “should be fought no matter how much it costs and how long it takes.”
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1024078954768
“Georgia Lawyer Wins Rare ‘Public Figure’ Libel Judgment”
WIN CALLED RARE
“David S. Hudson, general counsel for the Georgia Press Association, said Bowers’ win is rare because “most public figure libel cases never get to a jury.” An estimated 95 percent of libel cases brought against the media by public figures are disposed of in favor of the defendants on summary judgment because a showing of malice or reckless disregard for the truth is so difficult to meet, he said.
Atlanta attorney L. Lin Wood Jr., who has instigated libel suits on behalf of former Olympic Centennial Park security guard Richard Jewell and the parents of murder victim JonBenét Ramsey, said, “If you have a public figure or public official case that you can get beyond a motion for summary judgment to trial before a jury, by definition, you have a strong and compelling factual case. … That’s the hurdle.”
THESE FEW BLOGGERS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY ‘PRAISE’ SOMEONE LIKE O’QUINN THEN TURN AROUND AND ‘TRY’ TO ‘PUT DOWN’ A TRULY GOOD LAWYER WITH LEGAL AND MORAL ETHICS DOWN.
I JUST SET BACK AND LAUGH REALLY HARD AT THEIR STUPID REMARKS.
http://www.pogolaw.com/people-attorneys-profile-Lin-Wood.html Hope the link works I am not real good with links
IMO Topix dark side says what they want because they know that no one can prove or disprove what they say LOL just like we could all say it was settled for 10 million and the topix people could not prove or disprove it with out giving away where they got their info and that could cause a lot of trouble
Beth yes it cracks me up to when they go on and on about what a rich and smart lawyer O’Quinn is and how Lin Wood has never won a case. These people care totally clueless and continue making fools of themselves. Looks to me like Mr. Lin Wood has a very impressive record no matter what the looney tunes try to claim.
hmm thanks for the link, funny almost posted the same one.
Just from reading around a lot it looks like Debra Opri used a set of formulas in the Florida courtroom, when cross-examining HKS, designed to “crack” a narcissitic witness. Needling him about Anna buying his shoes etc was supposed to elicit an attack of “narcissitic rage”…anyways the strategy failed in the courtroom and continues to fail for Team Stupid in every courtroom they have entered. Maybe because HKS is not a narcissist.
Quote ” Any criticism, disagreement, exposure of fake achievements, belittling of “talents and skills” which the narcissist fantasizes that he or she possesses, any hint that he or she is subordinated, subjugated, controlled, owned or dependent upon a third party.”
full article (a good quick read) http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/narcissist.php
I think the group of bloggers who support Virgie caught the gist of Debra Opri’s strategy and continue to use it in their posts, without really knowing why. (but maybe some of them do) So “Howard’s shoes” have become short hand for humiliation.
Damn looks like my post went into limbo
hmm I read your link and noticed Wood represented Beth Holloway.
She and Dave are now represented by John Q Kelly and I was wondering why she changed attorney’s. Anyone know?
The information I am finding goes back to 2006 so it appears Wood did not represent her for to long.
I also found Wood list Condit yet another attorney is mentioned on CNN…Condit’s attorney, Abbe Lowell, another question did Condit find another attorney or did Lowell work for POGO?
Lots of questions, is Wood looking out for his clients best interest and why hasn’t he rehabilitated HKS reputation via the media?
I mean, if it’s true, no public apology, what has he done?
I think the best thing we can do for HKS is research who Wood has represented and did he do best for his clients.
fifi,
Truly very interesting!
Especially this part:
“…was supposed to elicit an attack of “narcissitic rage”
Maybe the virgie supporter bloggers and Debra all need some ’self-help’ books?
(I do not usually watch the History channel… but there is a two hour show that explains Body Language.)
They are going over video of Bush (present) and Putin, then some other famous people besides world leaders. It is really very telling, I need to pay more attention and be more observant in life of people.
I wonder if they will ever come up w/ a ‘word / writing language’? You know where someone analyses how you word your statements and how you punctuate…
Sometimes I would like to really ‘punctuate’ my statements stronger for those that continually lie and put down Howard and Mr. Wood.
I wonder sometimes what they would do if a person publicly defamed them on TV, or wrote a book of lies about them.
Bet they would look at it much differently if it were them…
I truly love Lin Woods. He could win 100,000 case or not one dosen’t brother me. I think he is a decent person and a kind man. I hope someone here keep the names of the people on Topix that said Howard didn’t win anything, you never know their names might come in handy. If you know what I mean. LOL
OOOOHHHH Rose,
Why do you always make us do our homework?
Why do we have to find out for ourselves stuff?
I know Google is my friend. …….Botheration there is only 11 pages on him
http://www.linwoodlaw.com/significantverdicts.htm
Mr. Wood is the lead civil attorney for Richard Jewell in his pending defamation action against The Atlanta Journal-Constitution arising out of false accusations made against Mr. Jewell in connection with the 1996 bombing of Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta. Mr. Wood was lead counsel for Mr. Jewell in his successfully resolved defamation claims against NBC, CNN, Piedmont College and Time Magazine.
Mr. Wood is the attorney for John and Patsy Ramsey and their son in matters relating to the 1996 murder of JonBenét Ramsey in Boulder, Colorado and has prosecuted defamation claims on their behalf against St. Martin’s Press, Time, Inc., The Fox News Channel, American Media, Inc., Star, Globe, Court TV and The New York Post.
Mr. Wood represents former Congressman Gary Condit and has prosecuted defamation claims on his behalf against Vanity Fair writer Dominick Dunne in New York and against The National Enquirer, Globe, Star and American Media, Inc. in Florida, relating to the May 2001 murder of Chandra Levy in Washington, D.C.
Mr. Wood, along with John C. Clune of Eagle, Colorado, represented the female victim-plaintiff in the civil action for sexual assault brought against Kobe Bryant, denominated Faber v. Kobe Bryant, U.S.D.C. for the District of Colorado, Civil Action File No.: 04-M-1638.
Mr. Wood is lead defense counsel for Griffin Industries, Inc. in a class action pending in Atlanta, Georgia dealing with environmental issues.
Mr. Wood was lead defense counsel for MedQuest Associates, Inc. and J.P. Morgan Partners, L.L.C. in a class action in Atlanta, Georgia dealing with healthcare issues.
Mr. Wood also represented AirTran Airlines, Inc. in successful defamation litigation against the Cleveland, Ohio newspaper, The Plain Dealer.
Biography
http://www.linwoodlaw.com/biography.htm
Age: Born October 19, 1952 in Raleigh, North Carolina. Resides in Atlanta, Georgia with his wife, Debby, and his four children.
Member: Atlanta and American Bar Associations; State Bar of Georgia; The Association of Trial Lawyers of America; Georgia Trial Lawyers Association; Lawyers Club of Atlanta.
Admitted to bar: 1977, Georgia; Admitted to U.S. District Courts for the Northern and Middle Districts of Georgia and District of Colorado; Admitted to U.S. Court of Appeals, Eleventh Circuit; Admitted to the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
Practice Areas: General Civil Litigation (including business litigation and catastrophic personal injury cases), Libel and Defamation and Medical Malpractice. Mr. Wood is currently a Vice-Chair of the Media Law and Defamation Torts Committee of the ABA Tort and Insurance Practice Section.
Education: Mercer University (B.A. cum laude, 1974); Walter F. George School of Law, Mercer University (J.D., cum laude, 1977), Phi Delta Phi, Member, Mercer Law Review, 1975-1977.
Mr. Wood has specialized in civil trial work for plaintiffs for almost all of his 28 years of law practice. During this time period, Mr. Wood has achieved a number of million plus and multi-million dollar recoveries for various clients.
Education
J.D., cum laude, Walter F. George School of Law, Mercer University, 1977
B.A., cum laude, Mercer University, 1974
Bar & Court Admissions
Georgia, 1977
U.S. District Courts for the Northern and Middle Districts of Georgia and District of Colorado
U.S. Court of Appeals, Tenth Circuit
U.S. Court of Appeals, Eleventh Circuit
U.S. Supreme Court
Memberships
Atlanta and American Bar Associations
State Bar of Georgia
American Association of Trial Lawyers
Georgia Trial Lawyers Association
Lawyers Club of Atlanta
Speaking Engagements
“How to Weave Your Trial Theme into the Entire Trial,” American Bar Association’s 2007 Annual Conference, August 2007
“High Profile Cases - High Profile Headaches,” Mississippi Bar Association’s Annual Meeting, July 2007
“The Crisis Case: Marketing the Client by Managing the Media,” Georgia Defense Lawyers Association - 2007 Annual Meeting, June 2007
“Not Guilty,” Poynter Ethics Fellows Reunion, March 2007
Awards & Honors
Notable Georgian (Georgia Trend, 2002)
Who’s Who in Law (Atlanta Business Chronicle, 2004-2005)
Georgia Super Lawyer (2005)
Top 100 Georgia Super Lawyer (2006-2008)
oh well…….that wasn’t too bad
Great work Heath! BRAVO!
It looks like I will have the unpopular opinion about Lin Wood.
I do know that he bragged that he had made more money off the Jon Benet Ramsey case (he represented the family; he still might be their legal rep) than ~some other lawyer~ made in their whole career. Wish I could find the exact quote. I will try to dig it up.
The quote is at “A CANDY ROSE” website:
http://www.acandyrose.com/index.htm
MAKING MONEY OFF RAMSEY CASE
0200
1 “MR. WOOD: Hey, I made more money
2 handling the Ramsey case than you’ve made in
3 your whole damn career practicing law, Darnay.
4 MR. HOFFMAN: — instead of settling
5 for chump change, which you’ve done in all these
6 other cases, you’re actually getting paid a
7 decent –
8 MR. WOOD: I’ve made more money in
9 the Ramsey case than you’ve made in your entire
10 career as a lawyer, you want to bet on that?”
Quotes from Gideon Epstein Deposition
(Wolf vs Ramsey) May 17, 2002
WOW, great job on the links guys!
Heath, thanks so much for your hard work. It’s good to see what a great attorney can do!
Food for thought on the money Lin got or didn’t get for Howard. If Howard got a big settlement O’Quinn and McCabe will just try and get it all back in Harris County State court. This might not be the best time for a big cash WIN!! And to all those trashing Lin Wood, it not over until it over, wait and see.
fifi love your link, LOL
I forgot to mention I think he is cute.:) very cute
You know I read that happy BS about the settlememt,I find the fools over there(Topix)do what they do best,Stir up trouble and call people fools.Please be very careful,they are looking for someone over here to try and find out,and than the agreement is broken,they are trying to bully someone on this site,to give them the right answer. That group are baiters,they put a worm on a hook and see if you will bite.I have never met,nor will I ever meet Howard K Stern,but I will tell you.NO WAY would this man settlefor just lawyers fees,(and shoes)and by the way that joke is old aready,they should try something new
Well,just come back from reading on the other side,I think we have a bunch of seniors,living in the past,and just like OQ trying to rewrite history.Everyone including Dr Perper is stupid,One was whinning about the funeral and poor Virgie,She would have got a lot worse things said if I was at that funeral.I know this will not enter anyone over there heads,but I have never in my lifetime,and hope I never will,see a mother going to her daughters funeral with reporters,Whatever Howard did,Howard was NOT Anna,s mother.That was Howard and Anna life the camera,WHY would a mother need reporters except,for making a few bucks off her dead daughter.I would like to hear another reason.If Virgie came with just family members,then you would know she cared.ALSO not brought yellow ribbons or yellow flowers,this was ANNA funeral,and it should have been,what ANNA liked NOT what Virgie liked .vIRGIE GOT THE ATTENTION SHE WANTED SO BADLY,WHAT A JEALOUS OLD LADY.
Ok here is my take on it. When Virgie set out to get custody of Anna’s body, she was also trying to make Stern look bad. I think she succeeded to a point. But in her attempt to do so, she made herself look worse. This is the woman that wanted:
1. To seperate Mother and Child in death. There is no way in hell that the Bahamas are going to let Daniel be moved.
2. To seperate a child and her father. Now matter how you slice it, Dannielynn is Larry’s daughter. Virgie will never ever change that fact either.
3. To get some kind of control over Dannielynn’s estate or a partial custody of Dannielynn so she could…. file a wrongful death suit against Stern and Dr. E.
Everything she does, points to money and those idiots can’t see that? They feel sorry for a grandmother who has NOT attempted to see that grandchild since she has been in the United States. That should speak volumes to these people. They put down Wood for settling lawsuits out of court but yet praise a lawyer who screws his clients out of millions ! They state so what if it was settled, it was insurance companies that will pay the settlement but yet before that they were horrified that insurance companies would pay Stern if the publisher ever settled on Stern’s lawsuit.
The woman is a money grubbing bitch. Her daughter saw that many years ago and walked away. Anna also kept Daniel away from that family for good reason however when Daniel became an adult, he stayed away. As much as Virgie is trying to blame Stern for her own short comings, people with intelligence can see the truth. And the truth does NOT revolve around that lieing woman.
The double standards that these morons use surprise me at every turn.
One of those posters implied that Dr. Perper was on the take. But they do not question why the fat mother never filed the statement to Perper after her daughters death. Actually they make me sick.
#19 Beverly “Please be very careful, they are looking for someone over here to try and find out, and than the agreement is broken, they are trying to bully someone on this site, to give them the right answer. That group are baiters, they put a worm on a hook and see if you will bite.”
I DON’T THINK WE or THEM will ever KNOW what the settlement is for, that is called a “Confidential Agreement”, I think the “only lawyer fees and no shoes” is spin, like if we were of the same mind set we could say $10 million and the Bat Mobile…. NONE of us will ever meet Howard K. Stern or know what he did or did not settle for… I just thought this would be a fun exercise in the difference of those who use their brain and those who buy blindly into B.S. on a weekend of fun and games IMO
A great read DiamondGirl!
I wonder what the Tax Law is concerning ‘Pro Bono’ money spent? I mean is all of that money O’Q spent a WRITE-OFF? (or) A CREDIT?
If so; this maybe a reason that Law Firm does not care how much they spend to ruin a man’s reputation WHILE trying to get an ‘in’ at the Marshall money.
If it is a credit… that would help them pay less taxes as a corporation to the government… I would think anyway.
I am curious if this might be a reason NOT to let the financials (especially last years tax records tobe seen) JMO
Heath, great find. Wood will never want for clients, and he is taking care of Howard. Wood waited a while before he agreed to take the case, he knowed what he was getting into, and who he would be going up against. None of us will know what happen with the settlement in the court, at least they made it to court, shows us Howard was not scared and had nothing to hide. Yes, Wood is a good looking gentleman, something other lawyers need to take lessons from.
Sprocket, I am not going to go into this blindly and from what I am reading I am having great concerns about
this guy. I need to get some more facts in order to present my argument
but I am leaning towards reconsidering my position when it comes to Lin Wood
and team.
My main concern is, does he look out for the best interest of his client.
Why did Beth find another attorney?
Febbie, Wood went down to the Bahamas when HKS was in grief. Please correct me if I’m wrong but when did he take this case.
Do you have the date?
Right now I am only going on memory but I thought Richard Jewell was not in great shape financially when he passed.
I really need to do my research, I have not had the time but I hope we consider what Rose is asking in her article.
Last note, I don’t judge a man by his credentials but by how he treats his fellow human being. What I am
going to look at is how he treats his clients and does he look out for them or does he look out for himself?
I know plenty of my fellow man with all kinds of credentials but have absolutely no care for others.
And can any of you let me know what exactly has Lin Wood done for HKS in regards to repairing his reputation
besides Greta and LKL? Do you all feel he has done enough? How many people understand what HKS
went though and why hasn’t there been more of an effort on Wood’s part to reach out and explain? Lastly
why hasn’t there been more focus of the real issues in this case via Wood?
ROSE——-MY other thought on this matter was,Lin Wood talked to Howard,as to financial matters,Howard has to have some kind of money,and as the breast implants Pts are still waiting for there money maybe just maybe a settlement was more feasable.Howard can clear in name with the other cases,but,Howard has to have some money to work with,Of all the cases,OQ ,is best out of the way.
Beth [23] I questioned O’Quinn’s tax write off in another thread. I wonder exactly how much of the money he has spent on Virgie Arthur he can write off and how much he will profit at tax time. Last time we heard he said he had already put out about $400,000.00, which was around the time of the Florida court and the trips to the Bahamas. The amount must still be accumulating due to the Texas suit, so how much more is he willing to shell out for his client. I also wonder if O’Quinn will be covering Virgie Arthur financially should counter suits be filed against her.
Febbie [24] I agree Lin Wood knew what he was in for when he made the decision to take on Howard’s case and in my opinion, he would not settle if it was not in favor of his client. There was enough evidence/proof that O’Quinn defamed Howard Stern. If this case would had went in front of a jury not only would O’Quinn’s finances been looked into but his reputation would have been tarnished as well. Therefore, in my opinion O’Quinn did not want this case going that far due to not wanting to have to show his financial records and to save his reputation.
Scrambled thoughts but I found this link interesting.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1995/10/30/207226/index.htm
This was when Lin Wood took the case:
Lin is really good looking in this picture, just for you Heath, LOL
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/13/anna.nicole.defame/index.html
Lin talking with Howard over taking the case:
http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/05/lin-wood-confirms-im-talking-with-howard-k/
This is Lin’s wire statement:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-09-2007/0004561809&EDATE
I still remember when Howard originally hired Lilly Sanchez to represent him, and she warned the media to stop defaming Howard or they would be sued. The media basically laughed in her face. The laughter can to an abrupt halt when Howard hired Lin Wood, and the silence since then has been deafening. Although Wood’s detractors put him down, it’s obvious that the media in general is fearful of him, consider him a force to be reckoned with, and doesn’t share that opinion. I still remember Bill O’Reilly’s interview with Rita Cosby. He seemed somewhat incredulous that Cosby seemed to be oblivious to what a risk she was taking in taken on Lin Wood. The same thing happened with John Gibson when he mentions to Cosby that in the past Lin Wood backed up a truck to NBC and loaded it up with money and has taken the media to the cleaners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf4_9ZEjW1g
Cosby’s fellow journalists, who still are working in cablenews unlike she, have more sense than she does.
Febbie you are right Lin Wood took his time to accept Howard’s case.We can find the date in Art Harris site.Now it is not a couples sentences report who will change my mind about Lin Wood This case is not so long ago Like some case take years before having apologise from the defendant.Maybe we are going a bit fast in this matter.
Never see a lawyer working in big case for pinuts sorry!
The due date is 19 november and O’Q report of income is du to.
lets see and we can for sure try to find infos about Lin Wood but something strong not like couples of sentences!!!
Sprocket [15]
I looked up the transcript. What you posted is out of context and happened in the midst of an argument with the other lawyer, and it looks like both lost their tempers.
Just out of curiosity, do you think the Ramseys were innocent or not?
I guess the fact that Lin Wood got HKS vs. O’Quinn past the summary for judgement on malice speaks volumes for the strenght of the case, if we are to believe Woods own words.
They were mention of negociation with HKS and LW inapril2007
http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/05/lin-wood-confirms-im-talking-with-howard-k/
It just behooves me to say this about Lin Wood, no one on this blog or at Topix were in any of the attorney client meetings between Lin Wood and Howard K. Stern or were any of them at the latest conference that was under seal and confidential. So NO one has a clue what actually happened or didn’t happen. So what we read is just opinion from the person who wrote it. I have done my homework and read the comments and statements from Lin Wood’s past clients. I suggest that people need to make google their friend, lots of answers out there.
Sprocket
I agree. I don’t think Lin Wood is a golden boy. He does seem like he can be a real “look at me” type sometimes. I don’t have any idea about this settlement but I will say that if what they are saying on Topix is true and this person who is alleged to be Wilma has been spilling the beans about it, there has been no mention of the Tx. suits. Now what great lawyer in thier right minds or at least in the mind set of what is best for their client, not have any settlement involve those TX suits being dropped? That is just crazy if it doesnt involve those suits being dropped. Team Tx. can say whatever they want, “oh this is VA suit against HKS and conspiracy blah blah blah” but I think my opinion is probably pretty accurate when I say we all know that in reality it’s JO’Q’s retaliation for the FL. suit and a way to get some of the money back he has wasted on VA.
Ann [31] I remember that statement made how Lin Wood “backed the truck up to NBC and taking the media to the cleaners”, which is why I feel that he would not steer Howard wrong in, is suits. Not just that Lin Wood’s records show how he stays with a case until he gets justice for his clients. Not sure but thought I had heard that Lin Wood was still handling the Jewell case even though he is deceased or, is the Jewell case done and over with?
I find Lin Wood and excellant lawyer,and I am glad he took Howard as a client.Howard has come a long way with the help of Lin Wood.I would love to see Lawyer Wood in action.From all the court papers I read.He can go up against Rusty Hardin,OQ and McCabe any day and win,but you need money,can you even think of the bill Howard has run up.GOD BLESS YOU LIN WOOD.
Oops correction “his suits”
Ann #33
this one we can agree on
I too read the depo transcript, and the summary judgment that Wood was granted in that case.
Concerning the Texas suit I will see this week with Art harris,Bonnie and Howard .Not suprise if this lawsuit will be out !
Daisy
Richard Jewell said in an interview that when it was over with Lin Wood was the one who got all the money. He had enough to buy a nice little house and that was basically it. It was all gone. I think Richard Jewell’s opinion of Lin Wood had really changed at that point. Not sure if it had or not but it would seem from that interview like it had. He seemed very upset and angry that the lawyer “got all the money.” But, in the end his main concern was getting his name and reputation back and being cleared in public. That at least happened. Who will clear HKS name? If there is no apology or acknowledgement from O’Quinn what good is a settlement? I don’t know for sure but I would put money on HKS wants his reputation back and to be left alone in peace to live his life and money is secondary to his motives. Any money on top of that would just be icing on the cake so to speak.
Is Lin Wood past his time? I mean what has he really done to rehabilitate HKS reputation? If it’s true a
settlement with no public apology or acknowledgment of wrong doing…speaks volumes to me.
Was he once a bright attorney whose fame or something else has gone to his head? Just don’t get this.
Would HKS have been better off hiring someone else, a younger attorney who studies and does his homework.
Am I unreasonable to think he could and should have done better, if what is being reported by “in the know”
is true. He is still being called the “m” word, unacceptable IMO.
Roxanne, that is what I thought. And if Wood wants all the money, then at the very least rehabilitate the mans reputation.
Roxanne in my opinion the Texas suit no doubt is retaliation for the Florida suit. I have said before there is no way an Attorney is going to put out so much money for a client and not expect to get it back.
here is a little link
http://www.pogolaw.com/people-attorneys-profile-1008.html
Also it is in my mind that HKS don’t have so much money.His parent back him on almost everything even pay for Anna’s funeral.Sure he need this money.If money is.
For me O’Q lawsuit is not the most imoprtant to clear his name the most is Rita Cosby.If I look at the damage made bz Cosbz and the implication of all the persons on it,for me it is were his name will be clear!
Also Howard is a good lawyer.He doesn t work just with Wood. Look at the team!!! Christa Barth and some of his good friends are out to help and give good advice on what is going on!!!!
Wait and see this is my best bet.Wood won t fool with Howard. His name is not O Q
Daisy, I have two links to this with Wood, and I have great respect for Wood, who has come into Howard life to get the vultures off his back. Money will never give back Howard life, not after what the others put him through, and I hope Wood sticks with him until Howard gets the FACTS out to the public.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/13/anna.nicole.defame/index.html Here he excepted the case
http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/05/lin-wood-confirms-im-talking-with-howard-k/ this is the link when he was approached by Howard
Maybe we should all wait until Wednesday before we jump the gun about what did or didn’t happen in regard to the settlement. Frankly, I never have expected the O’Quinn and Cosby’s suits to go to trial. I know we are so involved in all this that it’s hard to accept that we won’t know the settlement details, but I’m sure Howard has a voice in whether they settle and for how much. After all this is about him and what he’s satisfied with, and it’s not really about us. No matter what the outcome is there will always be a certain group that will spin it as negatively as they can. I doubt that their opinion means swat to the vast majority of the public. Just like the Ramseys, there will always be those who believe they’re guilty no matter what the outcome of litigations. The Ramsys were apologized to, and it makes no difference to some.
Roxanne [42] for all any of us know maybe all Howard was seeking when he hired Lin Wood was getting his reputation back in order to move on with his life and career, money may not be the object of Howard’s suit against O’Quinn. We found out in the very beginning what Howard was seeking when the suit filed against Rita Cosby but there was never any mention as to what Howard was wanting when the O’Quinn suit was filed. Therefore, no mention of money settlement may possibly mean that Howard was only seeking some sort of admission from O’Quinn that he was wrong on his accusation he made about Howard on national television. I know Howard has to pay Lin Wood for representing him. Is it possible an agreement of payment for all suits too come out Cosby suit due to that one is the only one that has a dollar amount?
Intriguing opinions…
Rose - I understand that everyone has different opinions and they should be able to express them.
Just curious though if this thread is also becoming a platform to trash Mr. Wood? Just wondering???
MOST people know that ANY lawyer who takes a case on ‘contingency’ gets anywhere from 35 to 45 percent. They are usually out the Court costs too.
ie: Jewell case; if the lawyer’s time to prepare papers, Court charges, file, ect comes to 200,000, the settlement was 1 million.
Jewell would get 600,000 and the lawyer would 450,000 [ @45% ] THEN ‘Court costs’ would be the 200,000:
Jewell 600,000
lawyer / court - 650,000
That is one scenario in how a client would get less than the lawyer. THIS DOES NOT, REPEAT NOT MAKE THEM A BAD LAWYER.
Well, I personally did not think this site would have people stating some of these things…
Looks like there goes any interview with some of these people in the future; as that is what was mentioned earlier that it would be nice.
I can see clearly again on how this thread turned. It is a shame.
(as I believe that this platform will be a treasure chest of comments and fuel for the fire for some on other sites…. Some people just ‘live to fuel fires’, as again it has been repeated.)
This is of no help to Dannielynn, Howard, Larry… I believe it will cause more harm than good.
It is sad, but that is just my opinion.
I guess I look at his accomplishments and what he has done against what O’quinn has and has not dome.Lin Wood did not practice law without a license .I see no mention of him running after clients or not paying people he represented like is shown for O’Quinn or paying the other attorneys involved in his cases. I see no lawsuits like their are against O’Quinn. I just use o’Quinn as an example cause he is the one i looked up and had the worste against him.Daisy I think I read that there is still a suit out there for Jewell.Beth lost all respect when she went to the book signing for Cosby IMO she just wanted media attention for her own book.Her situation was nothing like what happened to Anna unless you count the people that claim she was not honest about her arrival to find her daughter and how her and her daughter got along
Shoot I had changed the amount and forgot to fix the addition!
Jewell - 350,000
lawyer / costs - 650,000
*As I mentioned… just an example with some numbers.
The press was at its worst when Lin Wood started representing Howard and the book hadn’t been published.
Imagine what it would have been like without him in the mix.
They thought they could say and write anything and I remember Rita getting her love letter from Lin and saying she wasn’t worried at the book launch party. Can’t say her life has taken an upward swing since that time
You can hardly read about Howard anymore except a few places. So I think LIn Wood was the right lawyer and the fleet of lawyers working for Howard must cost a heap and it is not Pro Bono like Virgies is meant to be.
I am not sure how the financials work but would think costs would be high fighting a case like this and law firms need to get paid and so do the staff. The firms have to front the expenses. So the fee would be a percentage after costs and that would be in a contract agreed to upfront. So Lin Wood wouldn’t come cheap I don’t think but you get what you pay for. Howard would know the costs and what to expect on any settlement
hmm, in reference to the Jewell suit, I thought I had seen that as well.
I will be in chat to hear what direction and cases the the blog members want to cover in the future.
I will be in off and on from 6 PM to 8 PM CST, and then will be in from 10 PM to 11 PM CST so that I can talk to as many members as possible today.
Join us in chat and let us know what cases you want Rose Speaks to cover in the future and if you have any guests authors you want us to approach to write for Rose Speaks or for us to do lead in to their blogs like with do with John Nazarian and Sprocket.
We are looking foward to talking to you tonight, including about Lin Wood and cases settled out of Court
#55 Beth, I have spent all day on PACER looking at how they turn out… right now my opinion is that things are leaning towards Lin Wood being a winner in all of the other lawsuits…
Let’s face it when a lawyer takes a case on contingency, they usually do pay the costs out of pocket for the client those cost + 35 - 45%…
I think Jewell said it did NOT matter that the lawyers got the most money; his name was cleared; he bought his mom a house; he worked as a sheriff deputy I think. Therefore, his reputation had to have been cleared for that, right? I think he said it was NEVER about the money to him, and I think he did do joint seminars with Lin Wood at schools to show how a rush to judgment can forever cause irreparable harm to an innocent man’s reputation….
You know Beth we can’t do a BLASTED thing about how other sites take questions and turn them never have and never will…
Nevertheless, if together we can come up with something that is “fair in our assessment” and not be about drinking Kool-Aid then I hope all of you are happy with this site…
Look, do I think Lin Wood walks on water??? Well it appears in some cases he does and some cases he doesn’t…. What I have found on PACER so far is that if Wood had NOT believed that Howard K. Stern had a good case he would have settled before the multiple Motions to Dismiss… let’s not lose site of the interviews Wood has given that he never takes a client he does not believe in… Add to that the years O’Quinn could have tied this up in court and appeals and then be pragmatic… right?
I don’t know Rose, just am having an uneasy feeling today, will think about this some more.
My opinion today is I understand Wood is in this for the money and I believe him when he says he
believes in Howard.
Having said that, I still wish more would have been done to help HKS rehabilitate his name when
the time was right, a year ago. I wish he would have taken appropriate steps other then a simple
letter writing campaign to the media outlets, I wish he would have done a whole lot more.
I understand Wood was a bright attorney, I believed in this man and his abilities from the start. Today
I am disappointed and when I look at HKS picture on the last thread I feel sadness in my heart if
someone is not doing the best they can by him.
Remember HKS is bright but only a fool represents himself, that is what they teach us so he
reached out and let others help him.
When Wood came into the picture HKS was in grief and no amount of intelligence could have over come that.
Am I concerned he hired the wrong guy, at this point, you bet I am.
There is so much the public could have learned from this case, so much we could
have taught our children and in doing so HKS could have some what rehabilitated his name.
The opportunity was missed and for this I have remorse.
Going against big Media and communication machine is not an easy steps.It stay in my mind before I will see what is going on in the nexts months.Rita, Texas and also GBT and FS.
I belive they all together(Howard team) made a line to fallow and sometimes we are suprise at what can happend.
Daisy,
What do you think could or can be done to “rehabilitate” HKS’s reputation? I don’t know what you mean by that, or what you think can be done?
DAISY——–Faith and Trust,Look at all that Howard has won,He did not do it alone,AT first I was dissappointed,than I began to understand,I am sure you are well aware how much one court doc costs,Howard has a lot of court cases going,OQ relied on Don Clark,and found Clark lacking in facts,Howard knows what he is doing,and I do not think I am wrong,in thinking,because we do not know the ins and outs of the settlement,we are also making our minds work overtime,I have faith and trust in Howard,he is doing what is right for him.
I think that the ‘rehabilitation’ has been taking place ever since Wood took the case. The daily slandering of Stern ground to an almost instant stop, for a start. And it really doesn’t matter what the terms of the settlement were, they are irrelevant. The fact is that the case was settled, and no defendant would settle a case where they truly have the moral high ground, especially one like O’Quinn.
Not to mention that settling before trial means that there will not be daily repeats of the slander in court updates on TV, because you can bet that the posturing from those egotists would be as bad as, if not worse than, it was during the other Florida fiasco of a ‘trial’ IMO
Bilwildered thanks so much for the linkabout the breast implants Inc, sure was interesting to read and shows just how o’Quinn works.After Cosby’s book and all the coverage I don’t know how much of Howards rep can be given back.Lin Wood did stop it all or at least most of the talk and that is what counts. Rose I also read that interview about jewell and Woods.I remember him saying Lin was the only one besides his mother who believed in him and that counted for everything.I also think the Texas suits are in retaliation for the florida suit in case it was lost he had another option to get something back,especially in harris county where he gives judges donations and you can bet they do not forget that
“I think that the ‘rehabilitation’ has been taking place ever since Wood took the case. The daily slandering of Stern ground to an almost instant stop, for a start.”
Don’t you think that happened because:
1. Anna’s death was ruled accidental
2. Howard didn’t fight Larry once the DNA test results came back and Larry and Howard are working together for Dannielynn
and then this year
3. Daniel’s death was ruled accidental
I think when Anna died the media was very quick to drag Howard through the mud but once the authorities revealed their findings, that died down all on it’s own. A lot of media had their tail between their legs and were most likely ashamed of themselves for forming that “lynch mob” so to speak.
Sprocket [15]
I looked up the transcript. What you posted is out of context and happened in the midst of an argument with the other lawyer, and it looks like both lost their tempers.
Just out of curiosity, do you think the Ramseys were innocent or not?
Even so, to say something like that, regardless of the context, makes me go, “Woah!”
I do not believe the Ramsey’s are innocent. I think the FBI CASKU unit got it right. I think it was an accident that was staged to look like something that it wasn’t. Jmho, of course.
Will Lin Wood fight for his client? I’d have to say most definitely. Will he use underhanded tactics to defend them? Imho, I’d have to say probably. Are all Lin Wood’s clients innocent of wrong doing?
:D That’s a matter of opinion. Understand, I have not followed this case. I know less than nothing about it. I don’t know if Wood is doing a good job for Stern or not. My only knowledge of Wood is from his Ramsey media spin. Is my opinion about Wood objective? Probably not.
Lizzie & Connie I agree with you both all the slandering of Howard Stern stopped via media once Lin Wood decided to represent him. I feel confident that Lin Wood did an excellent job and will continue to do an excellent job representing Howard.
#69 Connie
I agree with you and Lizzie.
Lin Wood can’t be held responsible for what John O’Quinn won’t do!! If people were thinking Lin was going to force O’Quinn to apologize they are dreaming or not reading what is written on him. Lin is not a miracle worker just a lawyer.
Also Richard Jewell died on August 29, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/us/30jewell.html
Sprocket [70]
That’s what I suspected. That you don’t believe the Ramseys were innocent. IMO that would shade your opinion of Wood. And of course you’re entitled to your opinion as we all are.
I do believe the Ramseys are innocent I always have,and I find it a shame on the American people who sent Patsey Ramsey to her grave,with the accusation of murdering her own child.The Ramseys were very proud of there little girl,no one knows what actually happened and never will,there lies the reason I am angry with Virgie Arthur,OQ and the BIG MOUTH GERALDO.and let us not forget Rita Cosby,the term(rush to judgement) comes to mind.In my opinion Ritas crime is 10 fold worse than OQ, her evil remaks were put in a book,and will forever stay and in case the public forgot, that sex tape never did turn up,but boy how the public feasted on every word with there tongues hanging out.Virgie(MA Barker) who knew her daughter was headstrong,and could not be told what to do,yet Virgie took it upon herself to rip Howard apart without knowing the facts,Anna drug dependence,goes way back,in Anns life,but Virgie found a way,of clearing herself of any responsibilty,by yelling Howard at every turn.As they play the reruns of the Anna Nicole Show,you can hear Anna telling Howard to leave a number of times,so please do not say she was drugged at all times.
I am not going to get into the Ramsey case, there were never any charges brought against either of them. To say either one is guilty of crime is like doing the same thing that was done to Stern. Ironic how all were considered guilty and all have Woods as a lawyer.
There is nothing on this Earth that would restore Stern’s reputation in some peoples eyes. No public apology coming out of O’Quinn mouth would have done it either. I think most of us knew that there would be no apology spoken when O’Quinn tossed his fans under the bus and basically called them idiots for believing his words.
Let’s face it, even if Virgie came out and apologized, I lied, I used my daughter and dropped her lawsuits, many of us would all rejoice and say we told you so and still list all her motives for money.
IMO, there is nothing to slam Woods about. He is doing his job on so many fronts for Stern. He didn’t screw his clients out of money.
I could say so much more, but time for work!
Connie, I think a whole lot should have been done to educate the public in regards to Anna’s and Daniel’s death
and in doing so would have helped rehab HKS reputation.
I agree DiamondGirl, it would be very difficult to restore his rep in some ppls. eyes but most American’s are
good and decent ppl. with a lot of understanding and if there would have been more of an effort put forth in regards
to this drug epidemic, what an enabler really is, drug addiction, IMO it would have helped the public understand.
just wanted to let you know the reports are saying the settlement is “tentatively settled”.
Daisy,
I think that most people couldn’t care less after all this time. It is only posters on the various sites which support one or other of the people involved, and they are all so set in their ways now, that nothing will change their minds. The rest of the public has moved on to other stories.
I agree Lizzie, this should have been discussed via the media a year ago.
The rest of the public would have benefited from this in regards to education and being made aware of our drug epidemic.
I mean how aware is the public of what is going on with these drugs and wouldn’t this story have been the best way to
educate but the media chose to sensationalize. IMO Wood could have helped via the media to educate. The letter
writing campaign only stopped the spin but what did it do other then that? IMO he missed the opportunity, so what
did he really do for Stern, looks like his pockets are lined but what did he do for Stern?
Daisy
I think you have to look at it that no matter how much info was put out, people would still believe that others were bribed. People will still believe that Daniel never took drugs. Now over at Topix they are spreading the story that Anna’s butt abcess was caused by CH being injected at the site. There was never anything released about what was injected at that site by Dr. Perper. They make up things to back their opinion. They do not go on facts because to them it is all tainted. Keep in mind they believe only what supports their opinion and nothing else. People who were not involved in Anna’s life in the last 10-15 years are heros to them. All because they don’t like Stern. It does not make sense to me but whatever floats your boat.
People cry conspiracy when it was the supporters of Virgie, who went digging into people’s past. They have slammed people they will never know. They ridicule lifestyles that they don’t understand because it makes them superior? In my eyes it makes them look damn ignorant.
Daisy,
You cannot educate people who will not listen.
Very true, Diamond Girl, and apart from that I don’t really think it was Wood’s responsibility to even try to educate people about drugs. If anything, that should be down to Howard and even Larry, since they are having to pick up the pieces for Dannielynn after Anna’s misuse of drugs.
DAISY——Lin Wood is a attorney,not PR.I am so sorry you feel he did not do enough for Howard,because I have just the opposite opinion.And I feel less exposure the better.When you are in the middle of several law suits.that is not the time to teach,because most people,would take what you had to say with a grain of salt.When all the court cases are finished,and court judgements have been made,then and only then,would it be time to educate the puplic .Howard has come a long way,from the lawyer,Virgie was trying to lynch.and Lin Wood was at his side,DAISY—think how much Lin Wood did,and wait till you know what Howard is doing,
#78 Daisy,
Thanks for the information. You say that reports are saying “tentatively settled”, what reports and where can they be located?????
#82 DiamondGirl,
You are so right, you can’t change or control what a person thinks or believes that’s up to each individual. We all have free will.
What does “tentatively settled” mean?
#86 JMA,
Tentatively meaning - Rough or provisional - likely to have changes before becoming final and complete (a tentative draft of the document) - North American English Dictionary.
Settled - decide on something - North American English Dictionary
Hope that helps, my question is where did that comment come from??
In my search to read the different cases litigated by Lin Wood and John O’Quinn I found this article on O’Quinn.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950CE2D8143CF934A35751C0A961958260&sec=health&spon=&pagewanted=all
morning! the first question from judge to VA in florida relate to drugsss right away!!!! it was team texas defence!!! for sure almost nobody new something about Stern!!! so all the eyes were turn on him!!! big desaster for Stern!!!!VA never talk about her partying with Anna. By gaining litlle victory at the time HKS show to intelligents persons that he is a good guys who never kill anybody.LW help him for sure.I have no dought about it!
Larry King even Greta invite him to there Show and he was with LW!!!!
Sunflowers it is today the date on the article
I don’t read on Topix because I would not believe anything
they had posted.
Skooly
Here’s my thinking, it appears Wood is the one making the money in this deal and at the very least he could
have done more to rehab HKS reputation. People will listen and give you a chance, most of them, but you have
to put some effort into it. I don’t think two TV appearances is enough. I thought HKS did great on Greta and
it helped people realize HKS situation but IMO it was not enough exposure to the public.
If this settlement does not include a public apology from O’Q and only pays attorneys fees if it were me I would
now accept the deal.
From the very beginning I understood HKS position was to prove O’Q lied when he called him the “m” word and
to show the public he lied about him. So I’m back to what has Wood done for his client if Howard is going to walk away
with “a new pair of shoes” and paying attorney fees, in my mind it’s not enough.
Hi Skooly, great to see you, long time no see
Daisy, I think you may be taking the topix propaganda too much to heart. I really don’t thing the Virgie people know anything more than we do about what happened in the settlement, and whether or not O’Quinn apologizes isn’t going to change anything with them. If he does, they’ll simply say he did it to get Howard off his back.
IMO no other attorney except Lin Wood could have put the fear of God into the media like he did. That in itself was a major accomplishment.
We will never know the details of any settlement.
Ann, this is not about topix, I promise you.
I will hold my opinions to myself and wait and see but from what I know today via different reports and from actions I have seen this is the way I feel. I don’t think Wood is the only attorney who could write a letter to the media and they would comply.
Maybe HKS doesn’t want to go out of his way (or have Lin Wood do anything special) to “rehab” his reputation. Howard did give a couple of interviews, he’s sued some of the people who slandered him, and most importantly, all that malicious gossip and those accusations against him in the media have been proven false. Accidental deaths according to the authorities, no matter anybody else has said. I can’t even say HKS was “cleared” because he was never charged with anything by anyone who matters. It was the so-called journalists and O’Quinn and Cosby and etc. who were accusing him of things. Not the police.
HKS probably just wants to lead a private life and is working to get over the devastating events of the last couple of years. I think the best thing he can do is stay out of the spotlight, just the way he has been.
Connie, I base my opinion on what HKS stated.
Wood is a lawyer, and all the education and years taught him how to make money and to protect his client. Howard knew what and how this would work with Wood, and if he agreed to take Wood on then he got what he wanted. Wood is that A lawyer, and in my book a great lawyer, but he cannot make anyone do something that they don’t want to do. OQuinn was brought before a court, it shows that his threat with the M word did not go without some kind of consequences. Whether any of us will ever hear what happen in the court, it really doesn’t matter, just having Howard to have the nerve to take the OQuinn to court shows me that Howard meant business to clear himself. It also shows me that Howard will prevail against all the trash thrown at him.
I have the utmost respect for Lin Wood and for Howard at this point. I sincerely believe that LW and other attornies representing Howard have stood strong in this case. Since I am not privvy to how this case came to an abrupt end, I will wait until I see the official evidence before my opinion changes.
#54
JMA I agree and that is what I said but HKS reputation hasn’t been fixed even in the slightest as far as the main public is concerned. Now anyone who takes the time to look at the facts will see that HKS has been made the bad guy in a situation that he has no control over but most people just went by what O’Quinn and others said to the media. Your supposed to be able to believe a high power attorney when he goes on national tv and gives interviews about whatever is going on and the people who haven’t closely followed this case has no idea that a vast majority of what O’Quinn and company have said isn’t true.
I agree money was secondary but unless O’Quinn comes out suddenly on national tv and says he made a mistake…. then Wood hasn’t helped HKS with that. I just don’t see Wood as an unfoulable golden boy who swooped in to save HKS. Now if he swooped in and said “Howard, I’m going to take this to court for you. We’re going to sue the crap out of them and I don’t want anything in return. You keep any money so you can rebuild your life.” then I may think he’s the golden boy. Reality is most of whatever money is recovered in any settlement goes to the lawyer. They are the one’s that make the killin money wise and not the clients.
Well, whether we like Woods or not really doesn’t matter. If Stern is happy with whatever the outcome is, more power to him. I would hope that Woods and Stern have a plan of action to fry the bigger fish. However, we don’t know what has or has not happened in the O’Quinn lawsuit and it really isn’t any of our business either. Stern nor Woods has to give an explanation as to their actions. They are the only ones that have ALL OF THE FACTS. We are just mere posters.
I can see Stern allowing the little fish to slide by while all the while, focusing on the things to come. Although I am not a big fan of his, I do understand that he hasn’t had time to grieve his major loss. His entire reasons for living came crumbling down all in a period of less than 1 years time.
DiamondGirl, for me it is not a matter of liking Wood, it is a matter of did he do right by his client. From the reports I have read the settlement is tentative so IMO that might mean not all the parties are in agreement and the only one getting the short end of this appears to be HKS. I am drawing conclusions keeping in mind my opinion today is based on what I understand from piecing the puzzle together.
Daisy
Do you really think that Stern would allow to be given the short end of the stick? Like I said, I would tend to believe that they BOTH are looking at the bigger fish. Maybe this lawsuit against O”Quinn wasn’t to repair his reputation but was actually used as a fishing expedition instead. Maybe they got the info they were looking for with this FL lawsuit. I just wouldn’t give any of the Virgie supporters the belief that all is wrong in the Stern world. I think there is a lot more at play than what is obvious.
DiamondGirl this is what I know Wood went into an agreement with Stern when Stern was in grief. Do I believe he could have signed something which might have not been what he thought he was getting into at that time, possibly considering all that was happening to him then. Maybe you’re right about it being a fishing expedition, I once thought so.
What I do know is O’Q started this ball rolling and if he gets out of this with merely giving Wood money, it pisses me off.
And about the VA supporters, giving them something or not, in my mind, who cares about what they say…if it wasn’t about this it would
be about something else. I refuse to let them silence my opinions. I will never consider what they think when I am on a discussion
board or in any other aspects of my life.
In other words, who cares what they say
You know the great thing about this site is if our opinions differ we can have those opinions and still be civil and nice to each other. I also love the fact that we aren’t censored here and can have an unpopular opinion. I haven’t read thru all the post yet but I dont’ see where anyone is bashing Lin Wood. Bashing would be a trip over to read what they have to say. Rose did this article because we had been discussing the crazy things that topix was saying about Woods ability to win in court. It’s doing what it was designed to do. It’s got cha talkin! In my opinion a good lawyer will always try to settle out of court. But, if the alleged Wilma and her close blogging buddies are to be believed and all the settlement is for attorney’s fee then how does that help HKS? It does nothing to repair his reputation if there is no public acknowledgement from O’Quinn of the horrible things he has said in the media. I do know for a fact that Lin Wood walked away from Richard Jewells case with more money than Richard Jewell did, he said so in an interview. I do know that in most cases I have seen the lawyer gets a bigger hunk of the money. That just isn’t right to me. Yes, a lawyer should be paid for the services he provides. I don’t know about most places but from what I have seen in person the contingency issue is more like 60% lawyer 40% client. A friend of mine was just in talking to my father and I last week and telling us about a settlement he just agreed to in a medical malpractice suit he had brought against his doctor and the local hospital. He settled for an amount that was considerably less than what he was asking for and his attorney advised him to do so and out of that amount he is getting about $7500.00 and his lawyer is getting about $21,000.00. How is that right?
Here’s my concern about the settlement. I feel like I have to say that I have no idea about what the terms are of any settlement. If Lin Wood actually did just settle for attorneys fees in FL and he didn’t get the Tx. suits being dropped included with them then HKS attorneys fees are going to still be running in TX. Now, there is no countersuit in TX because VA has nothing to give. So there will be no settlement that involves money in Tx. Those attorneys fees are floating out there unless somehow O’Q agrees to once again settle and he agrees to pay attorneys fees to Wood. This wouldn’t have anything to do with O’Quinns insurance company since it isn’t O’Quinn being sued. Any money to pay attorneys fees would come out of O’Quinns pocket for sure. Now, even if the suit is thrown out of court, there are still Woods current attorneys fees to be dealt with. That leave the Cosby suit in NY. I’m sure there is a contingency agreement in place there as well. Now whatever happens, it settles or it goes to court, whatever money HKS gets out of Cosby in N.Y. a percentage will go to Wood and the other lawyers or even if part of the win for HKS is xx amount of dollars plus attorneys fees in addition to the xx amount of dollars. I know this is long but stay with me here. HKS gets his percentage and Lin Wood gets his and this is no matter how the win comes. HKS STILL owes Woods attorneys fees for Tx. HKS would have to pay that out of any money he may win against Cosby in N.Y. Woods ends up pretty good on the money trail and HKS ends up with next to nothing left, if anything is left. No public apology and very little if any money to rebuild his life with. I just don’t see how that helps HKS. that doesn’t make Lin Wood a bad man. I just don’t think he is a “hero.” Some of you disagree. No biggie. I respect your opinions and you have your reasons for them as I have mine.
Most anytime when a settlement is reached.the amount is hardly ever disclosed..MOO.
IMHO you can bet your bottom dollar, Howard got a huge amount..
I think Lin Wood is a wonderful Lawyer, there is no way Howard would have agreed to settle if the
money value was not in his favor.as well as in Lin’s. Again MOO.
Just in from Court, and yes I typed & filed the motion myself… Also did it in Pro Per > Represented myself!
The result was what I asked for, which getting the Order is nice; making certain people ‘follow’ that order is the hard part!
Still, I was proud I figured out how to do it!!
Just glancing @ the comments, I would think with the mediator in that settlement conference; they did tentatively come to an agreement (settlement). NOTHING > SIGNED, SEALED & DELIVERED YET.
I would think then all that is left to do; would be having the people in the meeting take it to be looked over by the parties & the party’s ‘people‘… then they will sign it and submit it to the Court.
I hope that O’Q & his lawyers aren’t playing the ‘delay game’ with Lin and the Court… Florida Court will most likely sanction them big time if this is a stall tactic. I do know that this case will not get dismissed, but if O’Quinn doesn’t agree w/ the Florida lawyer who is representing him… the ’tentative agreement’ will fall through and there will end up being a trial.
To be honest, look at all of O’Quinn’s other cases where people are trying to get money from him…
NONE of those cases settle for a long while! I was truly shocked when I heard a settlement came so soon.
I did think that Lin would have filed something to let the Court know by Friday though.
(even though deadline is in a couple of days) Maybe they are all trying to ’SEAL the DEAL’?
It is hard to figure out anything when so much is sealed, I hope there is something on PACER this evening.
Anyway, those are just my thoughts on the matter.
Have a great afternoon everyone! Boy! I feel so ‘impowered’! Maybe I will take some classes on being a paralegal…
I’m proud of you too Beth.
You would do well as a paralegal. 
If I may change the subject just this once - thank you. When doing your Christmas cards this year, would you please send one card to this address:
A Recovering American Soldier
c/o Walter Reed Army Medical Center
6900 Georgia Ave., NW
Washington, D.C. 20307-5001
If we pass this on and everyone sends one card, think of how many cards these wonderful, special soldiers who have sacrificed so much would get.
Beth way to go…yes go get the training at least you won’t waste much more money on lawyers lol
Good Girl.
Mary I thought they stopped the cards cause of the nasty stuff that was being written?????
Beth sounds like you accomplished what you wanted to. Good. Feels good doesn’t it?
There is something about them not doing the “any soldier” thing anymore. I don’t remember exactly what it was.
Again WHO is saying Howard settled for attorney fees? Please consider the source and whether they’re correct about anything.
Ann I think thats what they would be hoping but I don’t think so.
I wonder how many times O’Quinn has ever settled? now that should be our next assignment
#113 No one has a idea of what Wood or Howard got or even OQuinn got. This case is a guessing game and all need to respect that. I would have love to have seen the out come, but thats not going to happen. Lawyers and Judges are probably glad this is over…
No one is saying “attorneys fees only” that as far as I can see. It could be absolutely true. Reality is we just don’t know. None of us know and unless it doesn’t actually settle and goes to trial, none of us will ever know. These are opinions based on the “what if” factor. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Everyone is entitled to post their opinion. That is what a blog is for. Discussion of opinions and debating issues and facts. This article was designed to get everyone talking and not to become a “who is going to throw the first punch” article. Come on ladies. I know everyone here is intellegent and can discuss these different opinions without getting angry because someone has a different opinion. Deep breaths for all. Pass me a shot of Tequila someone.
BETH——Thank you for your information,Myself I truly believe,because the Florida Judge is fair and impartial,OQ had second thoughts on a trial.I do not worry about Howard and Lin Wood.either one is nobody fool.If anyone thinks Howard went through all of this,and came out with (chicken feed) they better think again.You better believe if that was the case,OQ would have those papers signed,sealed and delivered to the court on the double.Howard and his family have taken enough (BS) from OQ
Beth so proud of you!!! you come from long way! kudo!
Beverly agree with you!! if it was so easy O’Q ad signed and by by.Now I would like to have infos Daisy have .Is it possible ?? her opinion come from somewere, pacer?
Please if some of you have infos (who are serious I mean) let us know thanks.
Now It was on my mind the one who lose the case pay the fees for attorney? If I look at the work who was done not only by Lin but by the team in all the lawsuits on air I think someone need to be paid .Lin have kids and family to !
Ok last question ,if the doc don’t go to court in du date ,are we allow to know if it is going to trail? or is it secret??/
I keep hearing that Lin Wood only settled for legal fees on this site and others, THERE ARE NO FACTS TO BACK THAT STATEMENT/COMMENT UP!! There is no proof that this information is factual or true. Again people are making comments without facts to back it up. This comment first appeared on Topix and is just as Rose said “bait.”
I’ve taken the time to read what type of man L. Lin Wood is, a man who experienced the most horrible tragedy in his family that anyone alive would have to face. After this experience Lin Wood has turned out to be one of the Nation’s finest bull dog attorneys for people who are being destroyed by the media. Because of this tragedy I think Lin Wood has made this the driving force in his life. He has experienced first hand the pain of what each of his clients feel. And there are a lot of clients who think Lin Wood walks on water as Rose said.
Again the people of Topix are baiting others to rush to judgment, WITH NO FACTS.
Wow, if someone is upset with my opinion sure went over my head.
Most of you know how I am and if I upset anyone that was not my intention.
I am upset with what I feel could be happening but I have no other information.
I’m not going into this with blinders on and I promised a long time ago I would never
turn my back on Howard again. I did once and when I realized how manipulated I was being I
made a vow to myself not to ever let anyone do that to me again.
I am going to question Wood and that’s my bottom line.
Ya’ll are wasting your brain power basing this thread on TOPIX!! roflmao!! Imo, no settlement would be for attorney fees only. That would mean that LLWood charges a 100% attorney fees. No way, No how. Even the mighty, crooked O’Quinn doesn’t charge that, lol. No way, No how!
And who gives a rat’s ass what the virginistas think about HKS’ reputation. Surely LLWood and HKS don’t care! TOPIX!!! What a joke!! they are still discussing the inquest, for crying out loud. And Howard’s unknown childhood. Hell, they still think that Bonnie and Howard were given up at birth in Ohio by Dr. E : ).
HKS’ reputation (where it counts) was restored when LLWood took the case. Period. End of story, imho.
People have opinions. When did this blog become a place that a person could not state their opinion? I really want to know the answer to that. If that is what this has become then it needs to change fast. We are not Topix. We are not going to beat someone down because they state their opinion about something. IT JUST AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN HERE.
Glenna laugh as you will. This thread isn’t based on Topix. This article was picked up because of things being said on Topix. It peeked the curiousity as to what Lin Woods record really is. That’s it.
I need some Tequila stat.
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sorry daisy
For the very last time, I am not basing my opinion on what they are saying on Topix. It has nothing to do with that place, nothing.
Rox I love you and you don’t have to apology to me for anything
What Topix say is nothing!!!! give proofs.Otherwise shut your mouth.. Myself I alawys be Howard’s and will continue until the end.Wathever happend.
Now can we have infos or pacer or papers or newspapers or something to prouve Howard had the bottom line???
Howard is not an easy guy to dell with .I am sure he won’t let go on for nothing.After all it is his parents who suffer.
Daisy I would just know on your comment #102 from the reports I have read …the settelment is tentative. Witch reports and is it possible to read them??
when I said shut your mouth it was for Topix .Ok no mistake here lol
Oh Saves I knew that LOL
Yes I wish we had papers and facts, not knowing is killing me.
save, it was reported on annanicoleandhowardkstern site (“tentatively settle), sometimes appears to have inside information
I also read a statement from HKS, Rose linked it a few threads back.
There have been a few other hints reported by someone who uses the moniker “in the know” that made me think something
could be up here.
And remember what I said today was if it were true if I were Howard I would not accept the deal, that is if he can reject it. I am
not privy to what he signed with Wood when he was in such an emotional state right after Anna died.
Ok my research and its results….
1. Lin Wood saw hell close up and personal in his young life and in articles he says he would have fought just as hard to get his mom out of jail if it had been she that had killed his dad, as he fought to get his dad out of prison for beating his mom to death… What demons someone must carry like that… I “think” Lin Wood could have identified with Anna Nicole Smith more than Howard K. Stern, JMO about demons from childhood
2. The only lawyer that has represented Howard K. Stern, Anna Nicole Smith Cracker Corp. and I hope Anna’s Bahamas Estate that has never lost a case nor folded on a case from my research is Wayne Munroe…. Bruce Ross of California seems like a smart lawyer too.
3. Lin Wood is ABOUT winning… per PACER (which would not include his state court suits only federal court) he has never carried a defamation case to trial… he has had most of them “settled and sealed” he lost one on appeal from a Motion to Dismiss and he has won one on appeal… that is one and one in my book… In other suits if any of you follow what he does, I would bet he could be one damn good trial lawyer if needed… HOWEVER, Lin Wood has always said Howard K. Stern is a public or semi public figure which sets the bar higher with Malice Intent…. he never fought that and because of that “kept his eye on the ball”… Now would Lin Wood ever take me or most of us out to dinner…? I would not hold my breath he is WAY out of my league… ALL good lawyers are about winning for them first and they do that by winning for their clients… contingency cases are tough and the lawyer of course whom puts out all of the money up front is going to end up with the biggest piece of the pie… Folks don’t get into the “worship” of any of these players; if you do, they will break your heart including Lin Wood… I would bet he can be one SOB at times and would probably say that… now do I think he believes in Howard K. Stern OF COURSE I do, do I think he would have taken the case if he did not think he would line his own pockets… NEVER…
4. Lin Wood is probably not as rich as O’Quinn is, but then Lin Wood probably pays his clients what they win in a suit, if lawsuits by ex-clients are to be believed that is not always what O’Quinn does… I don’t think Wood has been sued by any clients… do any of you have that info?
Now “tentative settlement” Ah YES… until it is signed, sealed and delivered it is tentative… done on Oct. 30, O’Quinn’s lawyer, Klein told the court that the papers of the settlement would be file probably by Nov. 4… This is Nov. 17 and they are still not filed, if that does not make it “tentative”, I don’t know what does… it ain’t in the bank yet folks so that pen must not be full of ink or the papers would be signed and filed…
So what in your opinion… remember this is OPINION not facts since NONE of us, whether here or on other sites will EVER see these papers damn it and I would love to read them one day but it is NOT going to happen… so folks what in your opinion is holding up the “settlement” from being signed, sealed and filed with the court and wouldn’t you love to be a mouse or fly on the wall listening to what is being “hammered out” here at the end….
So we will have Florida down “possibly”, New York, South Carolina, and Texas to go… a lot of dates coming up this week that should bring I hope some great discussions…
Could be that the rumor that Howard got nothing was started by a comment made by “In The Know” on http://www.page2.com/2008/11/13 in Palm Beach. Check that out.
There’s so much tension because we just can’t find out what happened in the case. 
#127 savesomething, I knew what you meant…. for English to be your 3rd language your meaning always comes through loud, clear and puts a smile on my face after a long day….
Repost http://www.page2live.com/2008/11/13/anna-nicole-smith-lawsuit-settled-in-west-palm-beach/#more-1532
I agree raven and since we’ll never know….
still wish more would have been done to help ppl understand what really happen in this tragic real life story instead I am left
with this horrible feeling people will always use the “m” word in regards to HKS who if they knew more they would feel different.
You know the kind of people who just don’t know better, heard what O’Q said and think it was true and never really heard much more.
The people who if they knew more would understand it was tragic story of abuse, addiction and a guy who was in over his head.
Saves I like your spelling and in some cases makes more sense than the proper way.
I know you can speak and write in 3 or more languages so please you do so well
#131 Great post Rose, thanks
#132 raven never has a truer statment been typed on the blog… I can’t stand that we have followed this case for over a year and now will never know the “out come”, like being cheated of a good suspense film ending isn’t it?
Daisy - If you go by Lin’s history he usually has a long term plan. There are three basic steps he usually follows, sometimes they overlap, but generally it’s a slow process.
Step 1 - Quell the media storm.
Step 2 - Litigate against the most extreem defamers.
Step 3 - Rehabilitate the clients reputation.
Untill they get through the worst of the litigation phase Lin would be opening his client up to media interference again.
just my opinion
I hope I am just jumping the results here and you’re right Fifi. Man if I’m this tense about the outcome…can’t imagine what it
is like for the Stern family.
Daisy, I wouldn’t worry too much if I were you. People who watch those shows are pretty savvy for the most part and do not believe everything that is said.
Somehow, I think we will know eventually how things turned out. IMO Of course, I could be wrong.
Of course, there’s some who believe every negative thing they hear about a person, and no matter what information comes out later…they still cling to their origional opinion. I think it will work out in a positive way eventually.
Hi Fifi,
good post. wasn’t it the A Team that said ” you go to have a plan”
FIFI, good job you have done your homework, thanks
thanks Rose I try to be understand lol.Daisy you are right but you know what??? Poeples are not interested in the fact of HKS.The intelligents understood since a long time that Howard had nothing to see with the dead of Anna or Daniel..You will always have 2 side so let them go and face a tree.Like Rose said A guy like Lin and what this man saw when he was young he understand.You are not fooling with him I am sure.Howard have an open invitation on Greta remember??? not VA or O”Q ,Howard so since that time poeples know who he is.
I am pretty sure Howard learned a lot with Lin Wood and I am dam sure Howard K Stern his a good lawyer who ad a wonderfull job.
you guys are the greatest, such thoughtful post.
No worries Daisy, don’t let the nigglers get to you
Raven,
Thank you so much!
It truly felt great!
Oh, the classes are just a dream… due to so many countless circumstances I will never be able to.
But, no worries… I have helped two friends of mine in their divorces.
I guess I’ll have to be satisfied being a ‘back-yard’ legal form helper!
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Heath,
You are so right! Lawyers can cost an arm and a leg!
Thanks dear!
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Miss Beverly!
Good to hear from you.
I so totally agree with every statement you made in comment (#117)!!!
I am so very anxious to see the next filing in this Florida case!
I also think that HKS knew exactly what Mr. Wood could accomplish for him when he asked Lin for help. I have a bad gut feeling that the TX team is looking for a ’way out’ somehow… Though, for the life of me I cannot figure how this case could ever be lost; due to the overwhelming evidence of malicious defamation that was captured on print, video, national TV and all.
I bet that O’Quinn will settle and pay a big price for his intentional harm while trying to achieve his goal through his client; Virgie!
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Saves,
Thank you.
Question on #119 > If one of the lawyers does NOT file a response, notification or motion (request)…
The Court (Judge) will file an Order to Show Cause, or just an Order.
Even though much of the content of this case is sealed, we will be able to at least know in what direction the case is heading by the filings. Next filing due by close of business on Nov. 19th I believe… Wed evening or Thur morning we should know something I think.
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Roxanne,
#112 Thanks girl! It sure does!
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*O/T*
Now, this following story blows my mind! (Where is our Miss Sammy?)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27755392/ “Palin could rake in $7 million from book deal”
“Just how much could the Alaska governor make from putting pen to paper?
About $7 million, according to some estimates.”
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ROSE, (#131) Great research and results! A very good read! Thanks. ~B~
Thanks for always making me feel special Roxanne. Good to know that my opinion is welcome : ).
Anyways, Does anyone really think that LLWood would charge a 100% contingency fee on the awarded amount? Is that not laughable??
Heath, I’m not asking anyone to write “nasty stuff”. Just asking to please send an injured soldier a Christmas Card. Some of these soldiers have no family.No one has stopped these soldiers from receiving Christmas cards.
Although I can’t find the link, I do remember way back when on the CTV form that there was an article about when Wood agreed to take Howard as a client that Wood was working for Howard for a 40% contingency fee which would certainly give Wood an incentive to get the highest settlement possible.
Wedesday is not that far away, and we could play guessing games about what is happening, but isn’t that how rumors get started? This is one time I prefer to wait and see.
#149 No I meant that I was told last year that they had to stop the cards because some people (low life) actually wrote horrible things in the cards and they had to stop giving them to the soldiers.
Being an army brat I understand giving support but it was turned into a form of attacking , very sad
#150 Ann,
This is the statement Lin gave about taking Howard as a client:
http:// http://www.prnewswire.com/ cgi-bin/ stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/ www/ story/ 04-09-2007/ 0004561809&EDATE
Sorry Ann think this one works
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-09-2007/0004561809&EDATE
Thanks. sunflower. I know that statement but there was another that mentioned the 40% contingency agreement. I do think Wood usually takes defamation cases on a contingency basis otherwise his clients couldn’t afford him. Even with the Ramseys who were well to do, he took on contingency. He also has stated that he doesn’t charge for media appearances on his client’s behalf.
KING: How’s John doing?
WOOD: John is doing well.
KING: Working?
WOOD: He’s still looking for some type of gainful employment.
KING: He’s not been employed?
WOOD: He has not. He’s worked for a couple of groups of guys that have been working on some start-up businesses, where he’s tried to give them some assistance — he’s a great businessman — in hopes that maybe that would develop into some full-time employment. That’s what he’s still doing.
KING: How are you getting paid?
WOOD: Well, my pay was from the lawsuits that I filed, in terms of the libel cases, the defamation cases. I work on a contingency fee for the Ramseys. What I do for them in terms of sitting here and talking with you, what I’ve done in terms of dealing with the Boulder Police Department and a number of other matters, I’d say 50 percent of my time I don’t charge for.
KING: Because you have total belief in them?
WOOD: Well, I do. And plus, the fact of the matter is, John and Patsy have already spent a lot of their money, if not all of it, giving it to lawyers. I feel better when I take from the bad guy and give it to them and take my part on the way.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/11/lkl.00.html
Just because some nut on Topix said Howard got nothing and only attorney fees were paid, well I could write 10,650,382.65 was the settlement and would anyone believe me. They are all talk over there. And If Woods was getting 100% fees then I’m going back to school to be an attorney. That will be the first time I have ever heard of that. I will always take the high road with Woods. He was the man that came in and helped Howard when the world was on his back. As for Quinn making an apology in public, he would rather eat his foot off. So I don’t think that will ever happen. I’m sure he said I will pay another 2 million just to not have to do that. Quinn is to narcistic to think he has to account for anything. I think that is why this is sealed. jmo
HEATH—–It was the A-Team but it was “I love it when a plan comes together”Howard is nobodys fool,if he does not approve of the settlement,there will be no settlement.OQ has to worry about his career at this point.He may or may not see the writing on the wall,With so many people going after him at this time,he just maybe would like to rid himself of this case,because this whole Virgie Arthur caper has gotten him (O).IT HAS GOT VIRGIE THE TIME OF HER LIFE.Lets just say,Virgie knows how to use men also.Virgie did what Anna did,used a rich man.OQ should put a sign in his office ‘THERE,S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE.
You know,if you think about it the “apple did not fall far from the tree” or in Virgie case,” the tree did not fall far from the apple”Anna said her mother was jealous of her,so Virgie went out and got herself a rich man to bankroll her she also has had the time of her life and to hell with everyone else,While OQ loves GRANDMAS.Virgie is taking him to the cleaners.Maybe if Virgie works hard enough OQ can be her 6th husband.
#155 Beverly thanks I knew it was something but couldn’t think exactly what it was.
Thanks again Fifi for putting it all so clear and laying it out..
SO ONE MORE DAY AND WE’LL HEAR MORE…yeah! I don’t think that Jo’Q could NOT afford to make an attractive offer. The alternative is not attractive at all.
I have tough deadlines at work so I am only able to peek in every once in a while. And I’ve been reading up on Caylee Anthony when I have spare time too….I wish someone would find that baby.
Hope you all are well and ready for TURKEY day..maybe the VA supporters will be eating crow though…lmao….
Take Care
I thought about what everyone is saying but I am still concerned about this proposed settlement
and here’s why, we know it has not been finalized, question is why.
Now IF what they are spinning is true and IF O’Q is not held accountable and gets out of this by writing a
check for attorney fees I say no way is that cool.
Do I believe a proposed settlement like that could have been reached, yeap, and do I think HKS might not be pleased
and is the hold out…within the realm of possibilities.
Bottom line for me is not how much money Wood made but O’Q being held to the fire and making a public
apology to HKS for what he did, nothing less. What O’Q did to Howard is one of the most cruelest act I have seen
done to another human being on national TV.
DAISY——-Rita Cosby is a lot more cruel,she wrote a book,that is still in the book store,and accused Howard of doing every rotten thing under the sun.I hope you can get over your concern,you know daisy,Howard at any time,could have changed lawyers HE DID NOT,The other cases will clear Howard name.Conceding to a settlement, is a slap in OQ face,Can you imagine,how humiliating,it will be for OQ,(COULD NOT HAPPEN TO A BETTER PERSON) to give money to Howard and Lin Wood instead of getting money for his client,OQ got NOTHING,he won NOTHING for VIRGIE.
Well Bev we just look at this different I am not as concerned about Vergie as some of you are. Yes she upset me but I got over
it and in my mind O’Q was the one who used Vergie to promote his need for attention and he is the one I hold accountable. It
was not his daughter and he had no emotional ties to this, he simply acted out for self serving reasons. He is the one who did
so much damage I don’t know where to begin.
Glenna
You know last night when I made that post I was shocked that so many people were jumping on a member about posting her opinion and it seemed that no one got that it was an OPINION. A lot of members seemed to be angry about the use of the word tentative and I was trying to figure out why. Going back and forth between post trying to see what I had missed because it just didn’t seem like that big of a deal really. Anything that is settled that hasn’t been made official is tentative. I got blindsided with emails and other things and was playing catch up with what was going on and multi tasking all while I was still trying to keep up and run my business. If I made you feel uncomfortable or unwelcome then I am truly sorry. It was not meant that way. As anyone on this blog will tell you it is never my intention to point fingers or make someone feel unwelcome. If it comes to that on any situation that is something I will do in private through a pm or an email. I give everyone the respect to keep anything like that off the blog. I had posted a few times trying quell things and people weren’t getting that it was a “what if” opinion and it wasn’t that Daisy or myself for that matter thought what they said on Topix was true. Like I said before, Topix simply peeked the curiosity about Lin Woods record. Personally, I think a good lawyer will always try to settle. It would seem something is up though. It was supposed to be filed by November 4. As of last night ,Nov. 17, nothing other than the judge demanding to know what the hold up is, has been filed in connection with the tentative settlement.
So, once again if I made you feel unwelcome I am sorry. It wasn’t meant to.
Thanks so much Sunflowers for the link.It is always informative to reread the accord betwin LinWood and HKS.As far as speculation about the lawsuit in Florida it is interesting to see all the mouths going bad.
The most interesting part is to come.I am sure LW and HKS are not dum like I saw some since the begening of this story!
Remember someting ladys. Larry King to Anna Nicole
-what about the rumor betwin you and Howard??
-Anna Witch one????
DAISY——-Do you remember reading in the court docs,Virgie went to OQ.Now if Virgie approched OQ,a high priced lawyer,for help,what could Virgie have offered him for his services.This PRO-BONO is crap,They can both cut the (HS)They were two snakes making a deal.The deal being,Dannielynn,and the money she would have and a possible settlement of the Marshall suit.A lawyer has to follow his clients wishes,and at any time Virgie could have stopped him,if she did not like what he was saying and doing.Virgie would tell everyone(i just want to be grandma) all the while telling OQ go custody,I t was not OQ that went to the hospital when Larry had 105 temp and try to get him to sign dannielynn over to her,and it was not OQ that first implyed howard had something to do with Anna and Daniel death,IT WAS VIRGIE,STATED IN THE COURT DOC.I do not think anyone broke Virgie arm to attend the book signing of Rita book,
Roxanne and Daisy,
I am very sorry if you saw my posts as ‘jumping on’ another member. I honestly never saw it like that. I saw it as debating points brought up in other posts and giving my own opinion on them. I apologise if I was misunderstood.
Beth [108] congratulations on your outcome, I think you taking a paralegal class would be an excellent idea.
Daisy, if VA was not in same opinion of O Q and if she wanted protect her family she ad just to say NNNOOO to O Q.She is an adult consentant They used each other and they go in the same direction,Right to the big tree,bang!
Lizzie,Glenna,NY ,all lblogger it is so important to give an opinion I am please I can read some posters who are not in the blog as usual.thanks to be here and just sometimes we are mistunderstood!!
rectification of the goal is a nice things to do lol!!!
My opinion on this subject is Vergie is what she is and she has emotional ties to this. Do I agree with her, no.
Remember none of this would have happened without O’Q, he is the one who made it happen.
And if he thinks making a public apology is week I say take him to court and make him apologize. A man with true character would.
Why did he do what he did anyway?
Hyperbole my ass, he outright slandered Stern, no if, and’s or buts…needs to be held accountable
and the public needs to hear it. Why does this settlement need to be sealed?
All it will provide is more slander, it says nothing. They are still using the “m” word in regards
to this case and it needs to stop.
Wow, I tried to post this a bit ago but seem to have been issues with the site.
glenna [122] excellent point on settlement and what Lin Wood’s percentage would have been if that were what was granted as settlement in the suit.
OK back to catching up here
not to defend VA but most of Am. realized what she is. It was not until O’Q went on
TV with his proclamations that this got serious for Howard.
#154 & #155 Ann,
I remember that information coming out. There was a discussion on Art’s about that and Art commented on that I believe, I’m looking for it. Art talked directly with both Lin Wood and Howard K. Stern so he knew what was going on. I also remember a discussion about Howard was doing some work for Lin to help keep cost down. And I know that Howard had to put down a big retainer before Lin would start working on the case.
sunflower, I know I read about the 40% contingency fee somewhere but it’s been so long ago. It wouldn’t suprise me if Howard was doing some of the legal work too. He seems to be great in researching legal precedence judging from the Marshall case.
“Stern, 38, was raised in Sherman Oaks, Calif., the youngest of three. He passed the bar in 1994 and started his career pursuing a mix of entertainment, corporate and personal injury law, according to his sister, Bonnie Stern. Several lawyers who’ve worked with him describe him as sharp and painstakingly methodical. Former law partner Dave Shebby says Stern led a “frugal” lifestyle, driving a 20-year-old Jaguar. In the ’90s, Stern befriended an up-and-coming rock band called the Young Dubliners, and, according to their lead singer, offered to negotiate their record deals for free.
“One of the most generous and amazing guys I ever knew,” Keith Roberts says. “He refused to be paid in any way.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030301242_pf.html
#174 Ann,
That’s a great article about Howard.
Yes Howard is great in research legal precedence after reading what he wrote in the U.S. Supreme Court case. And Justice Ginsburg was impressed too because they won the case!!
Lizzie
It’s all good. I’ve had a lot going on personally lately and I probably shouldn’t have really been posting or reading the blog last night in the first place. I was upset about other things going on in life and probably let it get to me more than I should have. No biggie. Today is a new day.
Beverly
You make some good points and I think most of us are in agreement with what you said in #166. I think that O’Quinn went to Virgie though. I think that he knew she lived in Houston and he saw it as another high profile case he could get involved in. I believe he had $$ in his eyes. I know they said Virgie contacted him but he would’t admit if it was the other way around. It’s illegal to ambulance chase and that would be essentially what it would have been.
I don’t think either Daisy or myself said we thought it was 100%. I made a statement to something completly different in #106. I really don’t get that people seem to think that Daisy and myself believe the hype on Topix and that we take it seriously. I don’t get that the word IF was missed in the post. I for one know that I said “IF” many times. Let’s look at the facts. Topix posters that are close with Wilma, along with someone alleged to be Wilma herself, seem to leak like a busted pipe. I’ve had things forwarded to me from there as well as read some things myself that were posted that was fixing to happen only to see within the week that very thing happen. Could have only been inside info. We know they love to taunt us with things. Some of it just happens to be true. Most of it is just that, a taunt. What they have said about the settlement could in reality be true. We don’t know and unfortunately we never will. In my opinion it could be the reason that the settlement papers haven’t been finalized and filed is because someone leaked the true settlement info. and someone passed that along to the correct person and with the confidentiality agreement already broken it would give HKS and Wood a pretty good standing for re-negotiating things. Do I think this is what has happened? NO, but it could be. We just don’t know. Do I hope that the terms of the settlement involved dropping the TX “revenge” suits? Absolutely and the reasons are stated also in #106. Do we know that it doesn’t involve the TX suits? NO. It does concern me that so far it seems that the TX suits are going forward. If so my question would be, why would they settle without those suits being involved or at least having HKS dropped from them? It could still happen and we won’t know that unless suddenly he is released as a defendant there. All this of course is now and has always been hypothetical.
One thing is for sure. The article did what it was designed to do. It got people talking.
“sunflower, I know I read about the 40% contingency fee somewhere but it’s been so long ago. It wouldn’t suprise me if Howard was doing some of the legal work too. He seems to be great in researching legal precedence judging from the Marshall case.
“Stern, 38, was raised in Sherman Oaks, Calif., the youngest of three. He passed the bar in 1994 and started his career pursuing a mix of entertainment, corporate and personal injury law, according to his sister, Bonnie Stern. Several lawyers who’ve worked with him describe him as sharp and painstakingly methodical. Former law partner Dave Shebby says Stern led a “frugal” lifestyle, driving a 20-year-old Jaguar. In the ’90s, Stern befriended an up-and-coming rock band called the Young Dubliners, and, according to their lead singer, offered to negotiate their record deals for free.
“One of the most generous and amazing guys I ever knew,” Keith Roberts says. “He refused to be paid in any way.””
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I’ve read this before…What Keith Roberts says is so sweet. It literally brought tears to my eyes. What a great thing to say.
ROXANNE—-in the court paper OQ handed to the court he said Virgie contacted him,I will look up the papers later.WHICH TIME WAS HE LYING between Virgie and him,NO TRUTH .
I agree with Rose ! it is like a good movie and before the ending it is cut! Frustrating ??? sure. Ann thanks for the link and it is Howard. He is meticoulous and sure he made each point .Helping Lin Wood ans Barth ,sure. I think it is what is helping him pass over this terrible time.
Is O’Q responsable for spreading false infos SURE!. If it was not O”Q comming in the scene VA would’nt be that important. O’Q apologise for Stern? not sure. It will be normal to do it. Nothing i9s normal in this case so! We don’t have all the tools so it is very hard to know.
One thing is sure, HKS is not easy to deal with .He is a good lawyer and will be reconize in his profession I am sure.
I would like to know WHEN anyone, or a Court will ORDER Rita to shut down that stupid site of hers? (her full name dot com)
It is all about that stupid book of lies! So, if she ends up settling (NY case) for telling those lies (based on false information) she got from Don Clark, WV, Mark Speer, possibly Opri too… She should be MADE TO close that site that is putting down LB saying FALSE… and promoting that horrid book that puts down Anna at every turn!
I saw Rita on Inside Edition last night… She makes me ill! I have noticed that the camera is on her for about 1/2 of a second…
Maybe they feel the same way?
Beverly
I know what the papers say but my opinion is that in reality O’Quinn contacted Virgie. There is no proof to that. It is just my opinion. I’ve had more than a couple of people who believe the same thing regardless of what the court papers say and regardless of what he said to the media.
When did this become a place where a person couldn’t state their opinion without it being absolute fact. Opinions make the world go round and as long as it isn’t defamator or slanderous then go for it. I really don’t get this. Am I missing something? Do we suddenly have a no personal opinion about anything rule?
Beth
I’m sure if the suit settles or goes to court and HKS wins, she will be ordered to take the site down. It makes sense that it would happen. I would be surprised if it didn’t. I just wish she would go ahead and do it.
Roxanne, I must be missing something too, because I don’t see where anyone is not being allowed to state their opinion.
I thought Rita’s book was out of the stores and not on her site…can’t figure out why I thought that.
Bev, I think it was all a big misunderstanding and Rox explained in one of her comments, it’s all good.
This is a discussion board and we all need not be afraid to post our thoughts JMO.
Rita need to sell all book she is able to. Lawyers are quiet expensive!!
I think judge made an interdiction to publish a second book.
I too believe Quinn got intouch with Virgie. Since Rusty is his friend and I think the family of the Marshall’s got with Quinn too. Since the court case is still up in the 9 district court they wanted to make sure since Anna had died they wanted to stop it. Virgie was their in on that. And I’m sure they promised her the world and she took. I went over to Topix and was checking the monkey’s and boy are they into a fight. Target is spilling his guts and emails about wilma. Boy, they can intertaine me. Just have to let them hang themselves, they do it each and everytime.
I thought it was said that O’Quinn was contacted by someone who knew Virgie’s supposed FBI son.
ray, it looks like a big old cat fighting amongst them again I was getting myself a good laugh over there too
Your right JMA and also O”Q resonse was Yes I have to help a friend in FBI or something like that!
respond sorry
Art Harris have a post .One is with NG on halloway(haha he was able to talk louder than NG) and the other is Casey’s case.Interesting….really Casey’s case make my interest
DAISY—-I think because Lin Wood requested the book be pulled from the stores,but that never happened,I had the impression that depo and court doc,where the truth and nothing but the truth,I had no intention of forcing my opinion,or overlooking someone else,s opinion.If someone can lie on court doc,what good is all that paperwork.it is a waste of time and money.Boy ,I respect Howard so much for being able to get past all the lies and deception,and whatever he does,my thoughts are with him,Why Virgie went to OQ,or OQ went to Virgie,made a difference to me,was because of the reason.If there was a trial,that fact turns out to be important,Did OQ have plans to defame Howard and get control of Marshall money?,or was he duped by Virgie,believing Howard was this evil monster,that was keeping her daughter drugged.I AM SORRY IF ROXANNE,thought I did not respect her opinion.my mind was working on,the truth,or no truth,and why a settlement.
#192 Very good points and questions Beverly and would probably be in the burial proceedings or the O’Quinn depo.? I know O’Quinn said her son or some FBI agent CAME to him, not sure what VA has said but I have always thought it was about the Marshall money JMO of course…
Now about Lin Wood, the next thing I am going to read because I find Lin Wood fascinating, and NO I do not think he would ever represent me or most ppl he is the one of the TOP at what he does and is why Dan Rather nicknamed him the “Monster” or something like that. However, make no mistake Wood takes cases based on his calculation of ability to win; all lawyers at the top of their field do that. It separates the top-notch one as in notches on their “handles of wins” to the others…
If anyone wants to help me delve into the article I think will give us more insight into Lin Wood please download this document and then help me with the phase 2 of if Can Lin Wood litigate to trial and win and more important does he ever need to do that if he has them beat in discovery?
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=747
Suing the News Media in the Age of Tabloid Journalism: L. Lin Wood and the Battle for Accountability 2006
The Declaration by Lin Wood filed with this kind of explains to me why we should not hold our breath for O’Quinn to give Stern a public apology; if he did, he would sink his own client’s suits in Texas.
Also folks remember we are each entitled to our opinions… hopefully this site never becomes a “blind following fan club” for any person, trust me I have yet to meet any human that would not sink if they tried to walk on water. One of the things I love about all of you and the brains you bring to this site is your ability to think for yourself. That makes this site have a LOT of strong personalities and is why some days some of us have to agree to disagree and not lose site of the forest for the trees so to say.
I have a lot of questions about Lin Wood tonight, does not mean I think he is a bad person, I am just confused as I am sure we all of about not seeing a stipulation of settlement and now wondering if something went wrong in the mediations…
Remember also that many cases are dismissed when a Motion for Summary Judgment is filed. Many cases are thrown out of court on Summary Judgments. Lin Wood’s own words is something to the effect of when you are representing a public person the bar of “With intentional Malice” is a very high bar to make. Could the judge have signaled he might very well find in favor of O’Quinn in the pending Motion for Summary Judgment based on No intentional Malice? Could the fact that few witnesses were disposed in this case have something to do with the quick settlement? Certainly, O’Quinn is not sure of a “win” at this point because it is not in his nature; it appears to ever settle. So what is going on behind the scenes? All good questions and all invoking OPINIONS that will vary depending on each person, keep that in mind and be kind to each other, we don’t want to ever become followers where discussions and differing opinions have to be fearful to post here.
I have not kept up with the blog today but will try to catch up on some of your posts now.
My self I think it is nothing more than,it was decided at a monent notice by OQ,and there were things they had to ironed out.I think OQ found out Howard and Lin Wood had no intention of backing off,I also think with all the litigation OQ is going through right now,this case was a thorn in his side,in fact I am hoping by now,OQ has figured out,Virgie is a thorn in everyone side,All OQ has to do is look at the profit and loss.he gained nothing and lost a hell of a lot of money,His and Virgie cause went no where. When I look back and see how many people were used in Virgie quest of destroying Howard,not one ,has profited EXCEPT VIRGIE ARTHUR,She is having the time of her life on a rich man,s money,any everyone else,JUST LIKE ANNA, IS BEING DESTROYED.Virgie and Anna twist men around there finger,with the poor me act,Look at the mess for Howard and Larry,Virgie case in Texas makes me sick to my stomach.(defamed my butt)That cow wants easy money,
There were those two stories Rose about how JO got involved in the entire mess. I remember people trying to find out what branch of the FBI did Virgie’s son worked at. We never did find out. More than likely Don Clark is the go between or OMG, JO lied! Well he had to because he told two different stories. Something about his wife (ex wife) asking him to help that (cough cough) poor grandmother and the FBI guy asking him to help out Virgie. Of course it is about money, always was. JO is self serving, I can see the wheeling and dealing going on when he donates money to have a building named after him(not to mention the tax credit he must get by giving to a charity. (Pity the charity is not towards his clients that he owes) I think if I was one of his clients he owed, I would be going after not only him but everyone he has paid money out to and for since the judgement came in against him. What he has spent on Virgie has got to be well over a million as of now considering that he stated it was around 400 grand while he was in Florida.
I think the one thing that we can all agree on it that Stern got a raw deal when he was called a murderer and also when Cosby wrote her book about the gay allegations, off shore bank accounts, funneling money to his parenst and on and on and on.
As far as Woods, I hope he is doing right by his client but only his client knows what is going on, and that is how it should be (damn it)
Wow in the link Rose put on #193 Wood says he does not classify himself as a first amendment lawyer or even a plaintiff libel or
defamation lawyer. I’ve always described myself as a person who does civil litigation.
and he says…goes out and fights the toughest legal battles I could and see if I could survive and maybe even win. One of my better
attributes although sometimes works against me in negotiations. is I am a candid person and a straight shooter. I got into this mess
by being reconized a plantiff deflamation attorney though Richard Jewell but I admitted earlier I was not necessarily informed first
amendment lawyer…
If O’Q called Greta entertainment and says most people realize it (even though Greta holds herself out to be a news show).
then how can he on the other hand sue Stern for something said on a clearly named entertainment show ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT!
It’s just all to ridiculous
And from what Rose says O’Q can’t apologize because it will hurt his client, then maybe the Fl.settlement should be held off until
after the Texas case so there is no excuses for not making a public apology, just a thought
Lizzie
It’s that someone was basically beat down in a round about way for having an unpopular opinion about Lin Wood. I posted an opinion on something and was essentially told it wasn’t right because the court papers say something different. I know what the papers say but it is still my opinion that it’s not right. The reason is because in the email logs that was handed over by O’Quinn during discovery it very clearly shows there was already ongoing communitcation between Wilma, Clark and O’Quinn the day after Anna’s death. That tells me that O’Quinn was already there and involved in this BEFORE Anna’s death. The court papers say that Virgie contacted O’Quinn AFTER Anna’s death. If that is true then that would make Virgies first priority, after Anna’s death, get a lawyer because the email was sent less than 24 hours after Anna’s death and they were already actively on the “case.” We’ve heard a couple of different stories about how O’Quinn was brought in and even O’Quinn and Virgies stories of those events don’t match each others. I believe that O’Quinn was already there. I believe that he came in after Daniels death and I believe that HE contacted Virgie and not the other way around. With what we know of him does anyone honestly think he would suddenly “help a little ole grandmother and mother seek justice” out of the goodness of his heart? I’m sorry I just don’t see that being the case. I could be totally wrong but for me that is what the facts of those events have lead me to believe.
It’s over. I’ve had a tough couple of days and I’ve taken things a little more personally than I should have. I’m sorry that I reacted instead of stepping away. I can’t take it back but I can apologize for anything that may have made anyone feel unappreciated or anything else. The fact is we have a bunch of great, smart and classy women here and I enjoy posting with all of you.
#181 Rosanne, if what I said about facts offended you I apologize, but I do want to know what is true. My comments where referring to what was being put out on other sites as if they were in the know about what went on in a sealed meeting. And maybe they are in the know, that would show that someone in O’Quinn’s camp leaked information about the sealed and confidential meeting. WOW that would sure help Howard’s case.
I totally agree with you and Daisy wanting to know if what Lin Wood is doing is in the best interest of Howard K. Stern. I commend you both for being bold enough to question what is going on.
As Rose requested, I did research what Lin Wood and also John O’Quinn’s past history was on their litigation of cases that went to trail and those that did not.
I found that both Lin Wood and John O’Quinn have a passion for what they do as attorneys. Lin is a pit bull for going after the media for destroying a person’s reputation and O’Quinn is a pit bull who goes after large corporations for there wrong doing. But as we all know there is a huge difference in their character and how they handle their clients. They are both out to WIN!! I believe neither of them will take a case unless they think they can win and get paid.
This was an eye opener about Lin Wood and how he handled the Richard Jewell case.
http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1997/02/brenner199702?currentPage=12
This article was part of what Lin Wood said at Richard Jewell’s funeral. And I cried after reading it. WOW history repeated itself with Lin’s clients! I thought about Howard going to Anna’s grave at night to put flowers there.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1Y1-109944355.html
This article I posted on O’Quinn before. This just showed me more about O’Quinn’s character.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950CE2D81434A35751C0A961958260&sec=health&spon=&pagewanted=all
Rose [193]
I really don’t see that the judge could have been signaling O’Quinn that he was going to find in favor of summary judgment, because things were not going well for O’Quinn during the days before the mediation meeting. His motion for summary judgment was bungled, and Wood was able to get the depositions from the Cosby suit, that O’Quinn was so desperately trying to keep out, into his answer to the summary judgment motion. Besides that I think if the judge had been signaling in favor of O’Quinn, that would have been reason for him not to settle. Why would he settle if the suit was going to be dismissed?
correction on #199, Roxanne, sorry.
#191 Roxanne I agree with you in your opinion on O’Quinn. I’m not sure Big John directly contacted Virgie. But I do believe that Rusty and Big John had some Happy Hours at the club talking about it, just my opinion. If you read the last 10 pages of O’Quinn depo Lin is questioning O’Quinn about his old law partner Mr. Pirtle who was in the courtroom with O’Quinn in FL during the hearing on Anna’s body. Lin makes a point about Pirtle having prior knowledge of the case.
And lets see O’Quinn said, he took the case because Virgie was a grandma, then he said his wife ask him to take the case and last but not least Virgie’s FBI son ask him. Big John has to be real careful because he has been brought up on charges of ambulance chasing twice, maybe that’s why he changed his story so many times.
Roxanne
I was just a bit confused, because reading the blog comments I only saw that people were all just giving their own opinions, whether for or against Wood.
I agree that O’Quinn & Co were all involved way before Anna died, and didn’t Wood even ask for discovery on emails and phone records dating back to when Daniel died, so it seems we are not alone in believing that.
As for who first contacted whom, I don’t think we will ever know for sure, since even they can’t keep their stories straight on that subject. I have always felt that Virgie was more of a pawn in O’Quinn’s game than the other way round, and she went along for the ride (first class all the way!) Yes she could have called a halt at any time, but why would she? Who knows what she was promised, and who was really doing the promising.
Sunflower and Lizzie
I promise today….. It’s all good. lol
Problems have been taken care of and hopefully we will get some peace at home now and things will move forward. I know you don’t know what I am talking about but it felt really good to go thru last night with my family without anything from the past rearing it’s head.
#204 Roxanne, we will pray for you sounds like you have your hands full.
sunflower [202] good point on why O’Quinn would continuously change his story about how he came to represent Virgie Arthur. Yes, he does not want it to look as though he contacted her due to already being brought up on those charges in the past for ambulance chasing.
I’m wondering since the Aunt(that is attached at the hip) with Virgie, who turned in the Marshall tape to the other lawyers to hurt Anna’s suit for her fair share of the money, contacted the lawyer that they already had connections with, and he is the one who railed in OQ. Maybe why he was so willing to write his opinion of Howard. That way they, Marshall lawyer and OQ, could settle up to suit themselves. Possibly Virgie contacted Marshall lawyer to see if Daniel had a trust fund that she could get her paws on.
Be careful of the links anyone clicks on, my pc was full of viruses, and from trying to figure out what type they were, it seemed(to my non pc mind)that someone was seeing my every move. Be very careful.
Ann - (#200) I know you were addressing your comment to Rose. Just wanted to say I agree. I also believe that the ‘turning point’ for O’Quinn and team was when the depos from NY were allowed to be used. Then I think by the Judge allowing HKS to assess O’Quinn’s financial records along with his lawyers is why the tentative agreement came into play.
*I am so curious to see if the TX team will actually ‘confirm’ the agreement and let Lin file the response to the Judge by the end of business today!
Rose -(#193) Interesting opinion on Wood…
“…Wood takes cases based on his calculation of ability to win; all lawyers at the top of their field do that.”
>I feel the same, I think the difference between a great qualified lawyer and how the O’Quinn Firm’s lawyers operate is this:
~~Qualified Lawyer - calculates the circumstances and will not take the case unless they can help the client (& themselves) come out ahead.
~~‘Some’ other lawyers - try to manipulate [possibly lie & scheme [nannies?)] to control and influence the outcome to THEIR ADVANTAGE!
Well, those are my thoughts on this…
I would like to clarify myself and make certain none of my questions about Wood are being misunderstood, I like Wood.
It is not that I don’t like the man my questions are is he more or less in over his head with this one and if you
read my comments from the other day “IF’ was a very important word in them.
Read Wood’s own words, they tell you a lot, doesn’t make him bad,
actually makes him honest but does cause me reason for concern
in regards to Wood vs. O’Q.
Man I’m so lost….As always LOL
Was I the only one having problems getting on here for the past couple of weeks?
Oh spit what is going on???
on comment #184 in October 2007 Lin Wood write a letter to hachette group book,asking them to stop distribuying the book BA then I try to see on the download if there is a repons to that letter.If it is the case the answer is from who? and when?
spitfiregirl, I have had intermittent problems getting on.
Well most of the time I had a blank page or those error messages. Then while ago, I was trying to click on the article and blank as well.
Wasn’t sure if it was me or what, because I’ve noticed some other sites I couldn’t get on to. Maybe it’s my connection..dunno
I have learned a lot about Lin Wood this week I never knew. I always thought of him as the Knight in Shining Armor who rode into Howard’s life on a white horse to rescue him. After reading about how at 16 he came home from a date to find his father had beaten his mother to death was so devastating. I think he used the law as a release from his past, but it took a toll on his marriages. Lin Wood can sure understand what his clients were going through. SURE hope he wins this round with O’Quinn.
spitfiregrl [210] I have been having problems here and there getting in.
#209 Daisy,
I’m curious is know why you think he is quote, “more or less in over his head in this one”?
Sunflower, tell me what you think…keeping in mind who Wood is fighting and read his own words about this case. IMO HKS needs a really
good first amendment attorney
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=747
#217 Daisy,
Thanks so much, but I’m not sure which of the 41 pages you are referring to. Could you let me know thanks again?
Is there any word today about this case?
Spitfiregrl, it is good to hear from you!
I had also been thinking of Ivy lately… I hope she is well, I miss her comments very much!
I bet she would know where Miss Dannielynn is having Thanksgiving dinner! I hope it is at Larry’s family in Kentucky… Happy ‘early’ Holiday to them! Dannielynn should enjoy Christmas this year! As she is at that age to get excited about all the goodies!
About getting on the blog > What I have had to do is:
The blog comes up fast, and then it takes 30 seconds to one minuet to click on the comments to this thread.
Once I do that I have to click on the right of the screen every few seconds (it seems like it is trying to load) THEN after 3 to 4 minuets the comments APPEAR!
It seems to take LONGER to open when there are more than 30 - 40 comments… Since we are in the 200’s might be why it is taking so long.
*Well, that is how my Win ME w/ IE is opening this thread anyway.
(it is a big pain!)
Beth, Thank You! I’ve just been busy dealing with some lil girl over on myspace. I’ll post my
story on the forum about that. Lyndal knows
I’ve wondered about Ivy and a few other’s as well. Hope all is well.
Saves
Your always on top of things.
SpitfireGrl
If you are still having problems let us know. There have been some updates to the site and it is open now for everyone to post.
Sunflower
Thanks. It’s hopefully over with now. Insane people need to be locked away faster.
Beth I too have to wait for the comments to load, thought it was because I am on dial up… will have a couple of articles up in a bit…
Filings today are just “sealed” in MY OPINION, I think that it is not a normal “stipulation of settlement with court to keep jurisdiction” and then Joint Motion or Motion by Stern to Dismiss with Prejudice and to keep settlement sealed…
I think perhaps there was a snag and the Sealed document was an update to the court in detail about how much further it will take to hammer out the final agreements and signatures… I am doing some PACER research on other cases of Libel in the Florida Southern District Courts and how they look when settled…
Thanks Rose!
Yes, I sadly am on dial-up too!
My oldest daughter has broadband… What a difference in speed!
It is just 9:45 pm here now, I am in the middle of watching Oprah - She has Brad Pitt on! What a sweet man! The love for his children just seems to ‘pour’ out of him! How lucky they are!
Rose, I think the stipulation (details, or conditions) to the jurisdiction of the Court would make that the finalized settlement; wouldn’t it?
Reason being; Agreement has been signed by both parties, and now there is a motion to dismiss the case.
I could be wrong, but I do not think there would be a motion to dismiss w/ prejudice if the settlement (agreement) is not final.
Just glad to see something was filed by the deadline. I will not jump the gun and wait for your next articles.
Thanks for the update! Boy, is that Brad good looking or what?
Hi everyone Haven’t been on for a few days or at least posting. Beth it is great you want to be a paralegal,maybe someday it can happen.My youngest daughter did her own divorcee and saved oddles on attorney fees even though she had a child.It helped that her ex signed off on everything and she only asked for custody and child support.IMO Lin Wood and Howard have a plan and will follow it through..I just do not trust O’Quinn he could be stalling,remember he does not want Lin or Howard to see his net worth.Spitfiregrl good to see you . Roxanne You are right I don’t think we will ever know whom contacted whom with O’Qunn and VA.I also think O’Quinn knew about the Marshalls and Rusty Hardin and took things from there.I haven’t seen a post from Ivy in ages and I hope sammy is ok also .IMO there will never be a public apology from O’Quinn it is just not in him to admit he was wrong.I think keeping Howard out of the spotlight was and is the best way to handle things.Just like with VA ,Cosby and Hatten they kind of went off the radar and you don’t hear to much about them.
Beth I had read somewhere that as Governor of Alaska she was prohibited from making money from something like that.I think I read it in one of the Alaskan papers.I am talking about the link about the book deal,maybe~!!IMO her book could go along with Ritas in the fiction part
what could be the reasons the settlement is sealed?
hmm,
good to see you posting!
I am proud for your daughter taking care of that paperwork and saving herself money.
Yes, a book on Palin to me would rank down there with the one Rita wrote!
LOL That is so funny about the ‘fiction part’!
Well, just checked in before work… Have a great day everyone.
Oh hmm, I saw on GVS last night that an Alaskan business man filed another ethics charge on Palin. Something about using her office for the interview w/ Greta. The ethics charge said she was using the people’s resources and time on the clock dealing with Fox news.
It is a lame charge, but I believe the people of Alaska are just saying enough is enough! Be Quiet Palin!
Beth [224] could you please explain the “motion to dismiss the case” for me? Are you saying the case could be “dismissed” or is that is part of the legal process for settling the case?
Hey all I have favor to ask. I have left it in the forum on the thread I started. TIA
Morning just pass by.I had to much fun on chatt last night. Waiting for your comment Rose cause I feel litlle bit mix up in this procedure.
And Humm yes you are right where is Sammy,bewilder,and some other good bloggers???
Beth, wish you the best in being a paralegal. I have enjoyed your comments on the cases and all your hard work with research and links.
#206, JMA
Thanks and yes LOL
#226 NCuser,
It’s sealed because O’Quinn doesn’t want anyone to see his financial business. He’s afraid all those angry clients he ripped off will come after him, LOL.
#229 Saves,
Yes we had a great time, see you tonight!!
I knew the documents were sealed prior to settlement…I did not know once settled we would not know any $$ amounts. But I guess it makes sense that the entire case is sealed (settlement too)…..Dang! we’ll never know huh? But ya know I cannot imagine that Howard settled for anything that did not satisfy him.
Agree completely!!!!
He is not the one to let go after the horror he and his family whent on.
Otherwise let’s go to trail and bring it on!!!!
The case dismiss ???? never!!!
JMA,
Sorry about the confusion… Here are a few examples:
The 1st, concerns a confidential settlement, (with unspecified amount)
ONCE this happens > The case is dismissed from the Court, as there is nothing left to litigate.
* Litigate means to institute legal proceedings against; file a suit against; engage in legal proceedings.
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/08/18/newscolumn2.html
“A confidential settlement has been reached in the lawsuit wrestler Ric Flair filed against Charlotte financial adviser Scott Storick and several other individuals and companies.
Flair, whose real name is Richard Fliehr, has agreed to dismiss the allegations against almost all the defendants in the case.
The agreement involves an unspecified payment Storick and other defendants are prepared to turn over to Fliehr and his ex-wife once the case is formally dismissed, according to court documents.”
2nd example:
This case is similar to the OJ case…
Once the Goldman’s won their civil litigation against OJ (that amount happened to be made public as a jury ruled on it)
Anyway, in this case the Court had to decide if they should continue with anymore charges of illegal wrongdoing.
If not the case will be DISMISSED, NOT LOST - just ended with a settlement.
http://www.fsmlaw.org/fsm/decisions/vol8/8fsm577_580.htm
“Therefore, it falls upon the Court at this time to resolve the basic issue of whether an information and complaint charging a major crime of murder is subject to dismissal on the grounds that a customary settlement has been reached between the accused and the victim or the family of a deceased victim.”
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Yes I can see how it would be confusing.
*** IF A SETTLEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED IN THE HKS v. O’QUINN….
HOWARD WON HIS CASE! ***
Then the Court will dismiss it of the books (docket), as there is nothing left to litigate.
DISMISSED IN THIS CASE (with agreed settlements) DOES NOT MEAN ‘LOST’.
Hope that is of some help.
“Then the Court will dismiss it of the books (docket), as there is nothing left to litigate.”
Opps > Should be - ‘dismiss it OFF the books (docket, Court calendar, ect…)
JMA - I wrote to you on the forum. Take care dear!
Prejudice - refers to a loss or injury. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice_(law)
DISMISSAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE: (can be re-filed)
“Thus, in a civil case, dismissal without prejudice is a dismissal that allows for re-filing of the case in the future.
The present action is dismissed but the possibility remains open that the claimant may file another suit on the same claim.”
DISMISSAL WITH PREJUDICE: (can NOT be re-filed) [usually settled between parties]
“This directly differs from a dismissal without prejudice, in which the right of the claimant to file another case on the claim is barred.”
Beth [233] thanks that clears it up my confusion.
Oops…clears up my confusion
Also, Beth thanks encouraging words always seems to help.
Thanks Beth,
so my last comment is ridicoulus lol So I hope this civil case will be dissmiss with prejudice. Please remove #232, if it is possible .Beth make it clear for us,so now we understand! great!!
Beth you have done a GREAT job explaining and answering the questions… I will have a new article up on the “Sealed” Documents in just a bit and what I “think” it means.
Thanks Rose.
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I wanted to add these statements for the ‘visitors’ that say this case was settled for attorney’s fees only, or a pair of shoes…
Prejudice = injury, loss
(1) > Dismissed ‘WITHOUT’ injury
(2) > Dismissed ‘WITH’ injury
* I believe that this Florida case will be dismissed WITH prejudice.
I also believe that the injury (defamation) was proved to be done with malice and forethought.
** Therefore = Punitive Damages
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/punitive+damages
“The purposes of punitive damages are to punish the defendant for outrageous misconduct and to deter the defendant and others from similar misbehavior in the future. The nature of the wrongdoing that justifies punitive damages is variable and imprecise. The usual terms that characterize conduct justifying these damages include bad faith, fraud, malice, oppression, outrageous, violent, wanton, wicked, and reckless. These aggravating circumstances typically refer to situations in which the defendant acted intentionally, maliciously, or with utter disregard for the rights and interests of the plaintiff.”
So, for the few who actually believe that this Florida case was settled for legal fees or a pair of shoes… Well, I would bet that you are 100 % INCORRECT!
In fact most settlements have ‘rough’ guidelines….
> How much could the victim make each year if their reputation WAS NOT tarnished?
> Is the harm (injury, defamation, loss) going to last? Even after victim dies?
> Injury was proven to be done on purpose [to achieve something by the defendant (perpetrator)]
>> On purpose (malicious intent) = Punitive Damages
>>> Punitive damages could be in the millions if a person’s reputation and good name was harmed to the point of it being irreparable.
-Was the victim’s family (close loved ones) affected?
-Will the intended harm that was caused; follow the victim throughout their lifetime?
***WHAT IS SOMEONE’S PEACE, HAPPINESS, AND LIVELIHOOD WORTH?***
Answer - It is priceless.
note:
I would also bet that what ever the amount is from the firm’s insurance, that the individual had to either ’match’ that amount or double it!
~ Remember, it was WAY MORE than just one defendant!
Anyway, this is how it all makes sense to me. Agree or not, if it was settled then I bet it was a really big amount! JMO
#240 BETH,
WOW Beth! What a great job in research and information thanks so much this has really helped! I know you well be a great paralegal.