What do You Want to Know from Wilma Vicedomine in her Deposition?
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On Monday, October 13 and Tuesday, October 14, in Houston Texas all of the big gun lawyers in the Rita Cosby suit will meet and deposed Wilma Vicedomine and Don Clark. Those that will have the right to be present during the depositions is Elizabeth McNamara for Rita Cosby, Douglas Maynard for Hachette Books, Lin Wood, and any of the lawyers he decides that can be present that are on record in the Cosby suit for Howard K. Stern. Neil McCabe for Wilma Vicedomine and Don Clark and for some reason when you review the letters filed and dated September 29, Robert Klein will be present, unless Wood excludes him because the depositions are ONLY about the Cosby suit. I did notice that in Robert Klein’s letter he stated that he would be in Houston this whole weekend to “prep” Don Clark for his deposition. I am not sure why Robert Klein would have access to this deposition unless as I state below after the 7 hours allowed for the Cosby suit, Clark agrees to extend the deposition into late that night for the O’Quinn suit. However, my prediction is since the Court will not Compel the deposition in the Florida suit, the Clark/Vicedomine will be only 7 hours each and only address the Cosby suit.
Below is an outline of what Lin Wood has access to in documents from Wilma Vicedomine in regards to her conversations with Rita Cosby, her postings on the internet and in a chat channel, and any “orders” she directed other posters to go out to sites like TMZ.com to allegedly promote Wilma Vicedomine’s agenda to destroy Howard K. Stern.
Per the Civil Rules, Lin Wood has one day of 7 hours with Wilma Vicedomine. Let us “assume” that Lin Wood has prepared for this deposition for several months, based on the fact he has “thousands of messages in an online chat room dedicated to discussion of Ms. Smith’s death. In these alleged postings, Vicedomine allegedly discussed aspects of Defendants’ investigation, including strategy, efforts to have Plaintiff prosecuted, and conversations that she had with Arthur. Id. Further, Plaintiff alleges that Vicedomine directed chat room members to post specific statements regarding Plaintiff on the website TMZ.com.” If that allegation were true, I would bet that Lin Wood has a top forensic computer expert, which has tracked IP’s in the records subpoenaed from the chat room owner. If those IP’s track back and can be proved it came from Vicedomine via Moody International computers, home computers that Vicedomine owns, and any IP’s that track back to the O’Quinn law firm.
Below are excerpts from the Omnibus Order issued about Vicedomine and Don Clark’s deposition, which now can ONLY relate to the Rita Cosby suit and not the Florida suit. This is unless because Robert Klein is “prepping” Don Clark all weekend for the deposition on October 14, they can do the seven-hour deposition of the Rita Cosby suit, and then go into the night on the O’Quinn suit if Klein and Clark “volunteer” since they cannot be made to compel now.
So based on this, pull the subpoena for Wilma Vicedomine and decide if you were Lin Wood and had seven hours to depose Wilma about her information she gave Rita and put on the internet, what would you ask Wilma Vicedomine (Vice) during that seven hours?
Omnibus Order page 5
Thus, on October 9, 2007, Plaintiff filed a libel lawsuit against Cosby and Hachette, which is currently pending in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, Howark K. Stern v. Rita Cosby, et al., Case No. 07-Civ-8536 (“Blonde Ambition Litigation”). D.E. 64 at 74; D.E. 121 at 6. Through the Blonde Ambition Litigation, Plaintiff discovered that Defendants’ investigator Clark, as well as another investigator assisting Clark, Wilma Vicedomine (“Vicedomine”), served as the source for many of the statements contained in Blonde Ambition.D.E. 121 at 6.
Indeed, in the Blonde Ambition Litigation, Cosby and Hachette list Vicedomine in their Initial Disclosures as an individual likely to have discoverable information. Specifically, the Initial Disclosures state that Vicedomine has information regarding the “truth of statements in Blonde Ambition, facts refuting Mr. Stern’s allegations of fault, [and] Mr. Stern’s conduct and reputation.” See Exhibits G & H to D.E. 121. Likewise, the Initial Disclosures identify Clark as having similar information. Id. Plaintiff asserts that while the investigation was ongoing, Clark and Vicedomine revealed information from their investigation to third parties such as Cosby. D.E. 133 at 3. Additionally, Plaintiff contends that Clark attempted to persuade the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) and Florida Attorney General to re-open the investigation into Ms. Smith’s death. See D.E. 133.
Omnibus Order page 5 and 6
Also during this same time frame, according to Plaintiff, Vicedomine posted her investigative progress on the Internet. Id. In this respect, Plaintiff asserts that Vicedomine, under various pseudonyms, shared intimate details of the Clark/Vicedomine investigation in Internet chat rooms. D.E. 121 at 10. Specifically, Plaintiff asserts that Vicedomine posted thousands of messages in an online chat room dedicated to discussion of Ms. Smith’s death. In these alleged postings, Vicedomine allegedly discussed aspects of Defendants’ investigation, including strategy, efforts to have Plaintiff prosecuted, and conversations that she had with Arthur. Id. Further, Plaintiff alleges that Vicedomine directed chat room members to post specific statements regarding Plaintiff on the website TMZ.com. Id. at 11.
Omnibus Order Page 31
Next, the Court considers Plaintiff’s additional assertion that Defendants committed disclosure waiver. Under the theory of disclosure waiver, a party waives work-product protection by disclosing to third parties information otherwise protected by the work-product doctrine. Specifically, Plaintiff contends that even if work-product protection existed for the details surrounding the investigation conducted by Vicedomine and Clark, any such protection was waived when Clark and Vicedomine disclosed details of the investigation to Rita Cosby, the author of Blonde Ambition. Further, Plaintiff argues that Vicedomine also divulged information gathered by the investigation to “countless people” via the Internet and in Internet chat rooms. D.E. 121 at 17; 133 at 14.
Omnibus Order Page 32
Instead, with respect to the argument that Vicedomine’s alleged disclosure of investigatory details to Cosby and over the Internet effectuated a waiver, Defendants argue that any waiver must be limited to the information actually disclosed, and not to the entire subject matter allegedly discussed. D.E. 142 at 13. Put simply, Defendants contend that Vicedomine’s actions at most waived protection for actual facts that Vicedomine revealed to Cosby which were also published in Blonde Ambition, or statements actually posted by Vicedomine on the Internet. Since that information is available to Plaintiff, however, Defendants contend that Plaintiff should not be permitted to depose Vicedomine in order to discover all of what Vicedomine told Cosby or all of the Firm’s or Vicedomine’s work product. Additionally, Defendants argue that any waiver of the work-product protection by Vicedomine and Clark with regard to their investigation on behalf of the Firm would not constitute a waiver on the part of Arthur, its client in the related Texas Lawsuit.
Omnibus Order Page 34
While situations exist where a disclosure is essentially compelled or made through excusable inadvertence, and courts are sometimes willing to maintain the work-product protection under such circumstances, see id., this is not one of those cases. Instead, Defendants point to nothing to suggest that Vicedomine and Clark did not purposefully and voluntarily make their statements to Cosby and on the Internet. Moreover, the types of disclosures made (i.e., to the author of a book and on the Internet) are entirely inconsistent with a desire to maintain the privacy of the information disclosed. Rather, books are published and statements are posted on the Internet precisely for the purpose of making them accessible to anyone and everyone. Certainly, at a minimum, the disclosures substantially increased the opportunity for a potential adversary to obtain the protected information.
10Although Defendants have suggested Vicedomine could not have waived the work product protection by engaging in her personal capacity (as opposed to her role as an agent of Defendants) in disclosures of information from the investigation, Defendants have not asserted that Clark and Vicedomine were not acting as agents of Defendants when they spoke to Cosby or made postings of information on the Internet.
Omnibus Order Page 35
Particularly under these circumstances, it is difficult to conceive of how Vicedomine could not have intended that her Internet statements be made available to anyone who wished to view them. Such behavior plainly increased the risk that Plaintiff would learn of Vicedomine’s disclosed work product materials. In fact, Plaintiff did find such materials.
Similar reasoning applies to the disclosures made with respect to Rita Cosby, the author of Blonde Ambition. Cosby interviewed Vicedomine for the purpose of writing a book, in significant part, about the very subject matter of Vicedomine’s interview, and nothing suggests that Vicedomine did not know this. In fact, Blonde Ambition published much of what Vicedomine told Cosby. There is nothing about divulging facts to an author writing a book about the information being disclosed that is consistent with guarding the privacy of information that is otherwise protected by the work product doctrine. Obviously, such conduct increased the possibility that Plaintiff would obtain and use the material. Under the circumstances where Vicedomine voluntarily spoke to a journalist seeking to write a book on the very subject for which information was provided, there could be no expectation that Cosby would maintain the secrecy of any of the information. And, significantly, much of the information conveyed was apparently used and published in the book.
Omnibus Order Page 35 and 36
The Court therefore finds that Vicedomine’s and Clark’s actions, as agents of Defendants, are inconsistent with the maintenance of secrecy of otherwise-work-product protected materials from their adversary. The disclosures were neither involuntary nor compelled, and they were not made to sources that were assisting Defendants in advancing their case. Instead, Vicedomine and Clark made the disclosures at issue to third parties and did so in such a way as to create a substantial risk that information would be received by Defendants’ adversary. Vicedomine and Clark’s actions waived the work product protection since they could not reasonably expect that future use of the information could be limited. Finally, it is significant that Plaintiff did, in fact, learn much of the information disclosed. See Continental Casualty Co., 537 F.Supp.2d at 761 (once an adversary has become aware of information disclosed, it cannot purge that information from its mind). For all of these reasons, Defendants have waived work-product protection in these instances.
Omnibus Order Page 36 and 37
The Court agrees with Defendants to the extent that the disclosures by Vicedomine (and Clark) do not extend so far as to effectuate a waiver of the entire subject matter of the investigation. Due to the sensitive nature of work-product materials and the policy behind maintaining their secrecy, generally speaking, when work-product protection has been waived, it is “limited to the information actually disclosed, not subject matter waiver.”
Omnibus Order Page 37 and 38
Applying this principle of law to these facts, the Court finds that although several disclosures have occurred, any waiver of the work-product protection does not extend beyond those discrete disclosures. Put more simply, the Court finds that Vicedomine (and Clark) waived any work-product protection for anything they said or gave to Cosby in her accumulation of information for Blonde Ambition, and Vicedomine waived the protection for any statements she actually posted or caused to be posted on her behalf on the Internet.
Omnibus Order Page 38
(THIS IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE COURT WILL NOT COMPEL VICEDOMINE FOR A DEPOSITION IN THE FLORIDA SUIT EXCEPT AS IT APPLIES TO RITA COSBY’S SUIT. HOWEVER THE ORDER ABOUT SUPPLYING ALL PSEUDNYMS HAS BEEN ORDER BY THE COURT AND SO CAN BE ASKED IN MY OPINION DURING THE SEVEN HOUR DEPOSITION) With respect to the allegation that Vicedomine disclosed otherwise-work-product protected information in Internet chat rooms, the particular statements that can be attributed to Vicedomine in this respect are not entirely clear, as the poster or posters of many of the statements at issue used pseudonyms. Therefore, Vicedomine shall verify all screen names and pseudonyms that she used on the Internet while discussing in public fora matters pertaining to the deaths of the Smiths, the paternity of Dannielynn, or Plaintiff. Defendants shall also be entitled to obtain copies of all postings that Vicedomine made in these public fora that relate to the underlying investigation conducted in furtherance of the Broward County proceedings. Furthermore, Defendants will be permitted to ask Vicedomine about these Internet postings during her deposition.
Omnibus Order Page 38 and 39
Additionally, with respect to Vicedomine’s (and Clark’s) statements made to Cosby, the Court finds that any actual statements made by Vicedomine or Clark to Cosby regarding the investigation have been waived and, thus, are discoverable. As for Defendants’ contention that discovery of this information is limited to statements that were actually published by Cosby in Blonde Ambition, the Court concludes to the contrary. Instead, Defendants are entitled to discovery of all statements Vicedomine and Clark made to Cosby relating to the investigation. Although some of the information provided by Vicedomine and Clark may not have been incorporated into Blonde Ambition, such a fact has no bearing on the scope of the waiver in this case. As noted above, Vicedomine voluntarily spoke to a journalist seeking to write a book on the very subject for which information was provided, and Defendants have not suggested that she had any expectation that Cosby would maintain the secrecy of any of the information conveyed. Consequently, Vicedomine made disclosures to Cosby in such a way as to create a substantial risk that information would be received by Defendants’ adversary.
Omnibus Order Page 39
The fact that all of the information provided by Vicedomine and Clark was not included in Blonde Ambition also refutes Defendants’ contention that the information is readily available to Plaintiff and, therefore, should not be compelled to be disclosed. See D.E. 142 at 13-14. In making this argument, Defendants contend that Plaintiff should not be allowed to depose Vicedomine in order to discover the “full gamut of her work product.” Id. Although the Court agrees that Plaintiff is not entitled to discovery of all of Vicedomine’s work product, he is entitled to information disclosed to Cosby, whether included in Blonde Ambition or not. In this regard, the Court will permit Plaintiff to ask questions during Vicedomine’s deposition about what she told Cosby relating to her investigation.
Omnibus Order Page 45
Attorney-Client Privilege
With respect to the issue of attorney-client privileged information, Defendants conceded that no such privileged materials responsive to the subpoena duces tecum directed to Vicedomine exist. See D.E. 150 at n. 2. Defendants clarified that they inadvertently discussed attorney-client privilege in their objections to discovery. After further review of the documents at issue, however, Defendants realized that only the work-product doctrine protects the information listed on the Vicedomine privilege log. Id. Defendants stated, “At this time, there do not appear to be any documents protected by the attorney-client privilege.” D.E. 152 at n. 9.
Omnibus Order Page 51 and 52
Vicedomine Deposition Duces Tecum
Defendants’ Motion for Protective Order [D.E. 111] seeks for the Court to issue a protective order precluding Plaintiff from deposing Wilma Vicedomine. According to Defendants, the investigation conducted by Vicedomine, as the Firm’s agent, and at the direction of the Firm, is subject to work-product protection. Hence, Defendants argue that Plaintiff should not be permitted to invade that privilege by deposing Vicedomine about the fruits of her investigation.
Omnibus Order Page 52
Plaintiff, in response, asserts that he should be permitted to take Vicedomine’s deposition for various reasons. First, Plaintiff argues that Defendants failed to satisfy their burden under Rule 26, Fed. R. Civ. P., to demonstrate good cause precluding the requested discovery. Second, Plaintiff contends that Defendants waived any applicable work- product protection by placing the investigation at issue. Third, Plaintiff urges that Vicedomine waived any applicable work-product protection by disclosing details of the investigation to third-parties, and finally, Plaintiff claims entitlement to discovery of the underlying facts supporting or contradicting O’Quinn’s statements.
Omnibus Order Page 52 and 53
After careful consideration of these issues, including the briefs presented and the arguments made during the August 13, 2008, hearing, the Court has made a determination with respect to the scope of Vicedomine’s deposition duces tecum. As discussed previously, the Court finds that Defendants put at issue the investigation conducted by Vicedomine and Clark and, thus, waived any work-product protection associated with those materials through the date of O’Quinn’s last alleged statement on March 27, 2008. Likewise, the Court finds that Vicedomine (and Clark) waived any applicable work product protection when they disclosed certain details of her investigation to Rita Cosby and third-parties on Internet web-sites. This waiver applies to all materials actually disclosed by Vicedomine or Clark, including information disclosed after the date of O’Quinn’s last alleged statement on March 27, 2008. Finally, the Court concludes that Plaintiff is entitled to discover the underlying facts that pertain to the truth or falsity of any of the alleged statements set forth in the First Amended Complaint. If, however, these underlying facts are set forth in work-product protected documents that were created after O’Quinn’s last alleged statement on March 27, 2007, Plaintiff must obtain the information through means other than document production. Consequently, Plaintiff may inquire into these materials during Vicedomine’s deposition, but Vicedomine is not required to provide any work-product protected documents created after March 27, 2007, that contain underlying facts.
Omnibus Order Page 53
Accordingly, Defendants’ Motion for Protective Order [D.E. 111] is denied, at least to the extent that it seeks a wholesale ban on Vicedomine’s deposition. With respect to the duces Tecum attachment to the Vicedomine subpoena, the Court acknowledges that some of the document requests are extremely over broad. Indeed, at the August 13, 2008, hearing, Plaintiff’s counsel conceded that the requests were overly broad. Nevertheless, it is undeniable that certain documents that fall within a narrower subset of the requests are discoverable. To summarize, Plaintiff may proceed with the deposition of Vicedomine and may pursue the following areas of inquiry:
(1) All underlying facts regarding the truth or falsity of the eight statements allegedly made by O’Quinn (i.e., the causes of the Smiths’ deaths and other allegations pertaining to Stern made in the statements at issue);
(2) All information (including work-product materials) regarding the Firm’s investigation up through March 27, 2008 (the date of O’Quinn’s alleged last challenged statement); and
(3) With respect to investigative materials or information gathered after March 27, 2008, Plaintiff may inquire about any otherwise-work-product-protected information where, as determined by the Court, a waiver of the protection has occurred through disclosure to third-parties. These categories include (a) anything disclosed by Vicedomine to Rita Cosby (whether or not such information was ultimately published in Blonde Ambition) and (b) any statements regarding the investigation, Stern, or the Smiths, as disclosed by Vicedomine on publicly accessible Internet websites.
Omnibus Order Page 54
With respect to the duces tecum demand attached to the Vicedomine subpoena, Plaintiff can obtain documents that fall within the categories announced above, except for facts which may be set forth in work-product protected documents that were created after O’Quinn’s last alleged statement on March 27, 2007, and which were not otherwise disclosed by Vicedomine to Cosby. Plaintiff must obtain this category of information through means other than document production (i.e., interrogatories or depositions).
Omnibus Order Page 55
Defendants must produce responsive documents that would otherwise be protected as work product if such documents were created after March 27, 2007, if the documents were disclosed to Rita Cosby or on the Internet.
Omnibus Order Page 56
Although the Court recognizes Defendants’ objection on the basis of work product, as noted above, the Court finds that Defendants waived any such protection by placing the investigation at issue in this case. Therefore, the Court finds that Plaintiff is entitled to discover all Investigation Materials and O’Quinn Materials through the time of O’Quinn’s last statement (i.e., March 27, 2007). Additionally, Plaintiff is entitled to discover any Investigation Materials and O’Quinn Materials created after March 27, 2007, if such documents have been disclosed to Rita Cosby or on the Internet.
Omnibus Order Page 56 and 57
With respect to Firm Requests for Production 15 and 16 (O’Quinn Requests 20 and 21), Plaintiff seeks documents concerning communications with Rita Cosby or her representatives, as well as all documents concerning Blonde Ambition. Defendants object to the requests as overly broad with respect to the time frame involved and assert that the request is not limited in scope to this litigation. Defendants also object to the requests on the grounds that the requests seek to breach the work-product protection. The Court agrees that the request is overly broad in scope since it is not limited to issues presented in this case. However, the Court finds that Defendants have waived some of the work-product protection when Vicedomine disclosed facts of the Firm’s investigation to Rita Cosby, the author of Blonde Ambition.
Omnibus Order Page 57
Based on this waiver by disclosure, the Court finds that Plaintiff is entitled to discover any communications made to Rita Cosby regarding the investigation conducted by the Firm, whether or not those communications or materials were included in the Blonde Ambition book.
Omnibus Order Page 58
Therefore, the Court finds that Plaintiff is entitled to discover all of the Investigation Materials and O’Quinn Materials through the time of O’Quinn’s last statement. Additionally, Plaintiff is entitled to discover any of the Investigation Materials and O’Quinn Materials created after O’Quinn’s last statement if they have been disclosed to Rita Cosby or on the Internet.
Omnibus Order Page 59
Although the Court recognizes Defendants’ objection on the basis of work product, as noted above, the Court finds that Defendants waived any such protection through March 27, 2007, by placing the investigation at issue in this case. Therefore, the Court finds that Plaintiff is entitled to discover all of the Investigation Materials and O’Quinn Materials through the time of O’Quinn’s last statement. Additionally, Plaintiff is entitled to discover any Investigation Materials and O’Quinn Materials created after O’Quinn’s last statement if they have been disclosed to Rita Cosby or on the Internet.
So with the highlights here of the August 29, Omnibus Order outlining the context of the depositions, what would you ask Wilma Vicedomine in those seven hours? In addition, state in priority what those should be and why. Remember 7 hours with Wilma Vicedomine, make the questions count and tell us what you would ask her. If you cannot download the documents that you need email me and I will email these documents to you so you can participate this weekend in this “game”.
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Tags: Anna Nicole Smith, Daniel Smith, Dannielynn, Don Clark, Howard K Stern, John O'Quinn, Larry Birkhead, Lin Wood, Rita Cosby, Wilma Vice, Wilma Vicedomine
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wow ill have to reread but what was the protected order for that was denied? They have to tell everything not just what was in the book AND with Virgie!
all this homework.
I want to know what makes Wilma qualified to investigate Anna and Howard and their personal lives. Or anyones personal lives, she is not an investigator and has no qualifications or licensed to do so.
im dying to know all the stuff outside the book! I hope hks team gets some of the juicy stuff that she so proudly shared. The obvious will b the book stuff. I hope wood axes the klein sitting in. Kind of like he tried in the jurisdictional depo of hks.
1. Did the oquinn law firm and/or representative employ PAID bloggers? 2. What, if any, investigations were done with HKS online supporters? 3. Cyberterrorism questions? 4. Connections with virgie, gbt clan, opri etc.
MY FIRST QUESTION———-When did first meet Don Clark and OQ,under what circumstances.?(2)where you employed by either OQ and Don Clark and in what capacity. starting from what date you were employed?(3)On whose behalf did you make the trip to the bahamas with Don Clark,and what was the purpose ?.(4)what do you remember of the conversation you had with the nannies and who was present when that conversation took place.(5) what other duties did you perform for your employer,(6)DID YOU USE ANY OF THE BLOGG SITES,AND IF SO,NAME THE SITES AND NAMES YOU WROTE UNDER.
Forgot to ask the number (7) question……Where and when did you meet Rita Cosby,and where you in any way employed or do any work for Rita,did you contribute in any way shape or form to the contents of Rita ,s book(BLONDE AMBITION)?(8) where and when did you meet Virgie Arthur,also did you help Virgie in any suits brought against Larry or Howard,and what was your involvement.DID you work for or know GBT AND FORD SHELLY,where and when did you meet them.?
All great questions but remember they can only ask her things related to Rita Cosby, but anything she shared whether in the book or not is now fair game… so stay on that target as you ponder questions…
Don’t forget they only get 7 hours so think priority, like did they have a real plan of continuing to defame Howard K. Stern after the orginal suit was filed in Florida and did that continued with a “conspiracy” with Rita and Wilma to continue…
what about the book deal Wilma offer Pol’ and Patrik if their interview with Rose Speaks.com was accuarate?
What were her intentions or thought the out come would be enlisting the help of bloggers in Internet chat rooms?
What was her purpose disseminating false information in those Internet chat rooms?
Why did she investigate Melinda Burleson, If she was just a woman with a chat room and what threats did she make to try to keep people quite that did not agree with her and the O’Q team?
Why did she discuss Rita’s book in those chat rooms before Rita’s book was every published?
Dose she still to this day blog, chat about the cases on the Internet?
With enlisting the help of other bloggers in chat rooms dose she feel that she is involved in a conspiracy to defame Howard?
OMG, there is so many things that IMO this woman is responsible for, Not only defaming Howard, Larry and Rose too.
Did she give talking points to her followers to discuss daily?
Why did she avoid be willing to take a depo regarding her investigation?
Dose she also deny being a source for Rita’s book?
I have not read Rita’s book. but from what I do know DC and her are responsible for the sex tape allegations, as per Elizabeth Thompson.
Rose, I must say that I love that picture of Rita trying to get to MK, She shows her true form, (desperate).imo
Wilma who? Tee Heeeeee, Haaaaaa Haaaaaa, whoaaaaa Teeeeeheeeee, Haaaaaaa haaaa OMG, Haaaaa, haaaaaa! OOOOOOOOOH Haaahaaaa haaaahaaaa taheeee, O O O haaaaa! And what was her name again? Haaaaaaa Heeeeee OOOOOHAAAA!
John J. Nazarian, Private Investigator
Oh John please stop laughing and tell us what you really think :))) I know this is going to be good.
I thought Rita met with Pol-Patrik for lunch,not Wilma,why was wilma involved in offering deals for books.?and it will not matter because,the books will not sell,People have moved on,and Anna Nicole Smith is the past,the young and old alike found new things to care about.Rose,I think along with Rita Pol-Patrik had a hair across there butt,some of what they told you is not true,Please Larry making eyes at one of them,I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT FOR A MINUTE.All these sleaze bags are playing patty cake together.
I have a question,anyone can answer,Monday is COLUMBUS DAY,are banks ,post office and courts are closed,where is Wilma Depo going to happen.or is it in Mass,only the Federal offices are closed./
Did she work as an ‘investigating agent’ (paid or unpaid) for anyone other than the O’Quinn law firm?
Was she representing the O’Quinn law firm when she spoke to Cosby?
Was she representing the O’Quinn law firm when she wrote on blogs and boards on the Internet regarding Stern or Anna Nicole Smith or her son and daughter?
Man oh man I have a lot to catch up on. (I used to be able to get free wireless..umm..not anymore. *pout*)
First of all I’m very sorry to hear about Trimspa. That makes me sad.
I’ve always liked Alex Goen and he was one of the seemingly few people
who was defending Howard when kicking a man when he was at his lowest point
seemed to be the thing to do.
This news about Cosby actually sharing her info with O’Quinn and Co. Is kinda stunning to me. I don’t understand how she is allowed to do that and not forfeit any right of privacy she would have?? And doesn’t that act alone prove some sort of conspiracy??
God I have a lot to sort through and catch up on.
Morning all, love the way the blog asking questions are wise and love the inteligence of the blogger here.
My first question : was she allow to work in Bahamas regarding the interogation of the nanny?
Where did she get her licence, to be able to investigate and going in private life like she did?
Who paid her? Clark or O’Q firm?
Lol, this is my cute questions I prefer read your comments understand better than write! Have a good day respectful Ladys!!!
Dear John,
I could not have stated your #12 comment any better! Bravo!
We have missed you, hope you are doing well in this crazy mixed up world!
Beth.
I would like to see Wilma’s tax records for the last three years!
Three years ago, let’s see if any 1098 forms or W-2 forms came from the O’Quinn law firm. (these would show payment/earnings & from who)
Two years ago, all earnings and compare it to the ‘prior’ year. (who all paid Wilma, how much, and for: WHAT SERVICES!)
For the this year (2008) she will not receive any yet (deadline=the last day of Jan. ‘09) So, have her show any/all payments from any/all sources up to present time. Along with an explaination of what those services were exactly for…
ONLY THEN will we see a clear picture of her motives. IMO.
Saves, #18 You write just fine dear! I am continually impressed at how well your writing in English has gotten! There is no way that I could do that with a language that I did not grow up using!
You have an excellent point, (did WV have a PI license or ANY license to be working in the Bahamas) I remember awhile back we all did some research on how the Bahamian work permits operated… if I remember correctly - you absolutely have to get permission from the officials to work or I would think have that work product even stated out loud. That sure did not stop O’Quinn, Clark and company though, did it? They took their impression of that meeting with the nannies and blasted HKS with it all over the US airwaves! Their implications of certain questions or by implanting the idea of a ‘tape’ was MALICIOUS INTENT TO HARM AND DEFAME AN INNOCENT PERSON! They all should go to jail in my opinion!
Again, as the nannies lawyer put it; “IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND!”
Well, I am here just talking to myself… LOL
Hope everyone is going to chat tonight around 8:00 blog time…
Have a great Sunday everyone.
Bless you Rose for somehow being able to keep track of all of this. Cause I sure as hell barely can….
I have a question. To me at least it seems rather obvious that their was some sort of conspiracy between Rita Cosby and TeamO’Quinn; and I believe that it was because of them that we saw that fiasco in Dr. Kris’ house last year. So I want to know that after everything is all said and done with Cosby and crew, will Dr. Kris be able to sue Jerry Brown and the state of CA. For barging into her house like that and will she also be able to sue O’quinn and Vice herself for being the people responsible for essentially tricking Jerry Brown for pulling that little stunt?
?’s for Ms. Wilma
Who did you first interview?
Did you or Mr. Clark interview Dr. Perper?
Did you or Mr. Clark suggest foul play to Dr. Perper?
Did you embellish stories to the tabloid press?
Did you have a financial interest in the chance that KDS was found negligent in any wrongdoing?
Did you endeavor to incite misleading scientific evidence to anyone to establish propaganda against HKS?
Did you endeavor to create public outrage against HKS?
Did you ever state online, or to someone you interviewed, that HKS was evil?
Did you initiate contact with James Edstrom?
Did you supply emails/addresses for citizens to email/write about concerns?
Did you help to get Rita the phone records that she used for her book?
A lot of the questions I would ask have already been listed. I do wonder why Klein would be allowed at the depositions. Since everything is under seal, why would an attorney representing O’Quinn in Florida be allowed to attend? Since we don’t know what Cosby said in her deposition except for the one excerpt, it will be hard to tell what areas Wood was able to open up.
I think the biggest question will be, why were Clark and Vice communicating information about their investigation to Cosby in the first place? Is it true as Don Clark claimed that they didn’t know she was writing a book? If so, why were they communicating info to her if not for the book? How much of the book were they the source for? Were they the ones who supplied Cosby with the alleged telephone records cited in the book that can only be obtained through court order? Where there any other documents that they supplied to Cosby?
Then there is the whole area of Vice allegedly contacting people on the witness list and allegedly offering to help them get book deals like Pol and Patrick.
I guess if I was Lin Wood I would of course want to know if she had paid bloggers? Does she have any type of contact with the posters at Topix?..but, er, that doesnt have anything really to do with Cosby….
..IMO, it seemed as though Rita Cosby relied heavly on WV and DC as her “investigators”. So I would like to know if she was the one who told Cosby about
this apparent white powder that was found on Anna and Howard’s hotel room?
I would like to know if WV ever bothered to get in contact with or interview Larry Birkhead or anyone in his family? And if not, why not?
Did she ever actaully try to talk with Ford Shelly and Jakie Hatten and did find them believable? Did she ever bother watch Anna’s TV show?
Did she ever get in touch with this so called PI who says that Daniel was afraid of Howard?
I would like to know if she knowingly mislead Rita Cosby?
I’d like to know how she was able to be employed by Moody’s and travel the world at the same time, and what is Moody’s connection for allowing it.
And where does she keep her address book of all the innocent bloggers that have been harassed to this day. Did she give the orders and what was the reason behind it. And the names of the ones who are putting the info out there, especially the ones who were never members of QV’s site, Edstrom, or TMZ. Is she still giving the orders, or are they all just nuts doing it on their own?
By the looks of the list, I don’t think seven hours will be enough time. If Larry’s lasted ten hours, Wilma’s should last for a few days, she had her nose stuck in everything.
Was WV or DC the one who told Cosby about this so called sex tape between Larry and Howard?
Did you ever see the tape? Did you ever try to see the tape? What where your attempts in trying to
see the tape?
This really has nothing to do with Cosby, but I’d really like to know what made QV flip seemingly out of the clear blue?
Remember, as far as I know, QV’s site was the first that really supported Howard and then all of the sudden one day it doesnt.
I would like to know if WV and DC did some digging into QV and whatever they found- if anything, they threatened to use against her?
I would like to know if WV and DC actually give a s*** about Dannielynn Hope Marshall Birkhead?! Or all they care about is covering their own ass
and their boss’ ass?
I’ve personally seen, as well as heard about, a particular email that QV passed around giving out Wilma’s cell phone number and her personal email address.
Question
Why, if there is no conspiricy to defame, did QV (who was supposedly a HKS supporter) suddenly give out your cell number and email address with instructions, if that person wanted to help dig up dirt specifically on ROSE, contact Wilma through one of those sources? How many people contacted Wilma this way? Why would you have QV give this information out to online bloggers?
If you were so sure of your “evidence,” why did you deny you were a source for Rita Cosby?
Why are you, still to this day, posting on websites like Topix and why are you contacting innocent bloggers and threatening them to try to shut them up?
What was your relationship with M.B.? When she realized the extent of what was going on behind the scenes and told you she was out because it was wrong, did you threaten her in any way to recieve access to any information she may have that points to a conspiricy on behalf of VA and O’Quinn? If so, what was the extent of those threats?
Per the subpeona asking about background checks on M.B. and family members, did you do these background checks with the intent to threaten family members also with the hopes of M.B. turning over her chat logs or any information involving her chat room?
Will Wilma remember the date and the name she joined RoseSpeaks under?
What about the seemingly bogus corp. that appeares from a file format she used on at least one of her computers when she downloads things from RoseSpeaks? Is that a way for O’Quinn to pay her?
There are members from O’Quinns lawfirm that have joined the main site as well as the blog, why when it is open to the public? What were you hoping to gain access to by becoming a member?
Good point. After all if Cosby was able to sell her book, it was cause by the false allegation against HKS andLB
I wonder if Wilma is a US citizen or here on a work Visa or something, I remember reading a long time ago that she was from another country, I don’t remember where.
Well, my first question would be…..(not to Wilma)….Since the O’Q team is so interested in information on this site, will the questions posed by members be used in any way to prepare Wilma for her NY deposition?
My questions to Wilma are very basic and simply put, but I would be interested in the answers to those questions.
questions for Wilma
1. Were you acquainted with Rita Cosby prior to Sept 10,2006?
2. How did you become acquainted with Rita Cosby?
3. Did Rita Cosby solicit your help in gathering and providing information regarding Howard K. Stern that was published in her book Blonde Ambition?
4. Did you volunteer information either solicited or unsolicited for use in Rita’s book?
5. Were you following instructions from someone in becoming involved in internet blogging sites to gather and distribute information that would be helpful to Rita in writing her book, and to others?
6. If your answer is yes, who was instructing you to provide the information to Rita?
Did she send flowers to Marple?
Dose she pay her bloggers with prepaid credit cards?
Did she or O’Q law firm have anything to do with that Melissa Braum Book also? (Whatever her name is).
I know these questions don’t go straight to Rita but In McC. deop of Howard that was for Jurisdiction he asked everything under the sun.
TZ #31 Maybe it wasn’t a threatening situation that caused the person you referred to flip , but instead a perk offered to help a family member in some way. O”Q is generous in some circles with providing scholarships for some. Does she have a daughter? Maybe a modeling career, etc. Just a thought.
The most important question to me I don’t thnk can be asked at this depo and that is if she has any connection or moody has any connection to the Marshalls.Otherwise all your suggestions are very good.Aboiut paid bloggers when i looked it up it seemed like it was mostly for bussiness reasons that people were paid to blog or post.Liek about a product?
To post # 32 Roxanne
I have not heard about that email until now. What was the date?
If she is contacting posters and threatening them, did they file a lawsuit and a restraining order?
I would not think it too smart to be threatening MB if she was. I hope she is and will be okay.
What I would want to know is why and when did she contact the law firm to help them. Odd if it was the day after Anna passed away.
I would think she should have been smart enough NOT to threaten anyone that was a federal witness.
There is so much to these threats than meets the eye, I think we will find out. I would also like to know how QV was contacted and when. Before she changed her mind? None of any of that story adds up.
If any of this turns out to be true, I hope who ever was on the end of all that will file charges where needed.
#15 Beverly the depositon is going to be at a law firm in Houston I have never heard of, look at Wilma’s Subpeona for deposition, I would think that POGO has an agreement with this law firm for a neutral place and not at the O’Quinn law firm for both depositions.
Hi everyone…I have been very busy and am way behind. I barely have had time to read, let alone comment.
I am wondering if WV still comes here to read. I would be asking about documents…Does she have a PI license and does she have any ties to Opri or Speer(s). Also, it does appear, IMO, that there was an organized attempt by a group of people to do whatever was necessary, by any means necessary, to destroy a man without any real evidence for doing so. Has anyone looked to see if this was an organized conspiracy among these individuals and will there be a lawsuit for this? IMO, there should be.
SPY…love your laugh…it is contagious.
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Wilma can we please have an image of all the hard drives of all the computers please.
Were you paid by Rita Cosby for any stories? Like she offered money to the nannies.
*Febbie,
Can you please delete my chat registration…
Remember the trouble w/ the name? Well, I do not want to make anyone unsure of who I am dear…
Thanks. I will try to re-register at another time. Thanks. ~B~
#45 Beth that problem should be solved now, I thought Ken had fixed it will have him look at it tonight
Rose #40
I think that Wilma’s depo is going to be taken at HER attorney’s office in Houston.
Will any of the depo be available for everyone to read? And I can’t help but wonder if WV will tell the truth…the facts ..or just the truth through her eyes. It should be interesting….
This morning I woke up confused,If Wilma V,was on the internet,with different names,and told bloggers,things she found out,which should have not been put on the internet,How could McCabe try and sue bloggers,for what they are saying,when a member of the law firm is the one getting people upset and blogging?
John, yeah tell us what you really think. Your response [12] cracked me up
Roxanne [32] you ask some very interesting question
Everyone pretty much asked all the questions I was thinking of so now guess We/I will have to wait to see if any of them are answered.
Beverly, wow great question.
Snoopy
I don’t know the date of it but I do believe it was BEFORE O’Quinn denied knowing Wilma in his depo. It states that Wilma is an investigator and works for John O’Quinn and Neil McCabe.
Morning all,hope we will have some echo of the day…remember when Rita was kik out of the reception HKS made for the intimate after Anna’s burial.She never( cosby) recover of that!!!
I must be in the SPAM can again……..oh well.
I enjoyed our chat on Friday, it was nice to “talk” with you guys!
Roxanne [51] h’m that’s [e-mail] very interesting and even more since O’Quinn claimed not to know her.
Beth,
Things have been busy and this machine of mine with Vista windows wants to give me a fit, I should have got your nic straight. It was my fault, I will get help for it. Come on back and enjoy the chat, dang good recipes!!
See you soon!
Why would Wilma get involved with this saga, when she had a good job?
Did she want an adventure, that could get her fame?
Did she make the decission on her own or did someone make it for her?
Good luck to her, I hope she doesnot get tire marks on her nice clothes!
Good one Febbie I hope she does get tire markes on her good cloths would be the best laugh of the day.Maybe not that much except the Clark,Wilma and VA helped with the book maybe she did not want the depo out in the public so someone else could wright a book or look into what she claimed