John O'Quinn whispers to Debra Opri in court in Florida Feb. 2007

In the Reply filed today in the Southern District Federal Court, instead of attempting to reach an agreement, which is the usual course of Motions for Protection, (I. E. you ask for everything and then settle somewhere in between), here it is a firm NO. Which leads to why these filings instead of making a reasonable deal with Howard K. Stern’s lawyers?

I did note that the Florida lawyer for John O’Quinn and the O’Quinn law firm did become confused about which case that Rita Cosby’s excerpt was filed in Texas. It was not the Texas proceeding it was in fact for this very Florida Proceeding but filed in another federal court in Texas. That Motion to Quash and Motion for Protection was filed by Wilma Vicedomine in the Southern District of Texas Federal Court at the same time that O’Quinn filed a Motion for Protective Order for Wilma Vicedomine in Florida. I guess it is easy to confuse which case is filing what Motions and to protect Wilma Vicedomine where, she seems to be everywhere doesn’t she? However, can this be a preview that Wilma Vicedomine is about to become important in the Texas suit and/or suits as well? Was this a mistake by John O’Quinn’s legal team in Florida, or a preview that Wilma Vicedomine’s (Vice) role in all of this extends in more than the two suits we are already aware? How many people are now in line for O’Quinn assets for money due them?

On page seven of the Reply filed by the Florida legal team for John O’Quinn and the O’Quinn law firm; it states in part the following. “Although the Defendants fully recognize that they are not permitted to reargue matters covered in their Motion For Protective Order and original Memorandum of Law …” Then they do exactly that for three pages, repeating the unsubstantiated and unauthenticated claims about the “type of people not able to be trusted that Howard K. Stern and his head lawyer Lin Wood are”.

Again I would point out that the papers did NOT appear on Art Harris’ site “mere moments” after they were filed, it was HOURS, after the hearing for that day held via phone about trying to protect Wilma Vicedomine from testifying in the Florida Proceedings. Which continues to bring up the small tidbit of why are they so afraid of Wilma Vice [Vicedomine] being deposed?

Any bets on if the Court in Florida will have hearings on these latest filings and counter filings to try to unravel all of these issues?

Pick up this new filing in our documents section, open to All not just members of Rose Speaks.com and come back and discuss it with us, this article will be added to later tonight or first thing tomorrow.

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47 Responses to “Howard K. Stern Cannot be Trusted, HUH???”
  1. butterfly says:

    i was thinking the other day of the carnaby case. Wasnt it said that he was reaching under seat for what turned out to b a blackberry? Who throws their phone under a seat when driving?

  2. JMA says:

    O’Quinn making claim that Howard or Lin Wood cannot be trusted when it comes to his financial records is his way of trying to hide assets.

  3. heath says:

    O’Quinn is trying to walk under a snake with his top hat on. And delay delay delay.

  4. Rose says:

    John O’Quinn and the O’Quinn Law Firm filed the Court’s Requested Consolidated Response as to why the local rules should not be enforced and the Motions not filed on time should be stricken.

    October 8, 2008 John O’Quinn and the O’Quinn Law Firm consolidated Response to Howard K. Stern’s Motion to Strike and the Court’s Request for a Consolidated Response as to why the court should not enforce local rules and why the Motions for Summary Judgments were not filed on time.

    http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1020

  5. Daisy says:

    My opinion is Wilma Vice can not give a depo because she will lose this case for OQ and they know it.
    But from what Clark said, their done.
    In his statement he gave us a map of how he came to his conclusions.
    I really don’t think OQ is going to want Wood to start asking to talk to
    those sources in which I believe he is entitled due to Clarks own statements.

  6. spitfiregrl says:

    Oh I agree Daisy….Im sure she would hurt them alot.
    But those that think their above the law and have alot of money…it won’t get you into heaven now will it?

  7. JMA says:

    Daisy I agree and which is why O’Quinn is trying to make it difficult for Wilma to be deposition. O’Quinn knows it would be over for him if Lin Wood were successful with getting Wilma’s deposition along with talking to Clark’s so-called sources.

  8. Beth says:

    What absolutely just cracks me up is some of the idiotic stuff written by Clark in that affidavit!
    Three pages of actions he might have done in the past doesn’t make you ‘Right’ or ‘Honest’ NOW!
    Hell, look at who he works for! I said the other day about how many times O’Quinn and firm have been in trouble w/ their ethics in legal cases… Well, Clark has helped him w/ those cases doing the underhanded actions that are not very honorable. So, it MATTERS NOT what he did in the past!

    By TX; TRYING SO HARD to not have Wilma deposed only says ONE THING! O’Quinn, Virgie, Wilma, Clark KNEW that they were in a big CONSPIRACY to DEFAME HKS no matter at what cost!
    I actually get ill when I think of these low-lifes and some of the stupid bloggers that praise these nuts who would throw anyone of these idiotic followers under the bus in a heartbeat!

    This is what has struck me so odd, TX saying there was a conspiracy to tell the truth about VA. (Excuse me - as they call it defame) What a joke! O’Quinn and company did the only conspiracy. IMO
    I bet O’Quinn does not want his finances out there only due to all the other people that have and will sue him in the future. I bet in all of O’Quinn’s other suits no one has so thoroughly asked for all of the items that Wood did. Bet that ole drunken big mouth is sorry now! Again, this is just my take and observations from what I see in this mess.

  9. raven says:

    Heath #4 He IS the snake. I wonder if someone is checking on that court case in Baytown to see if that is a true statement? If the Court is as sick of O’Q and Company as I am, they will put a swift end to his tactics. Perhaps his antics are why he has prevailed in so many cases in the past…..They just get tired of him wasting their time.

  10. Daisy says:

    I find it completely ironic the way OQ life is catching up to him.
    He thought he had a slam dunk when it came to Howard.
    IMO he thought he was going to win this one in the media not
    realizing exactly what he was up against.
    He has some hard lessons to learn and I hope he learns and makes amends,
    his life is not getting any shorter.

  11. glenna says:

    Nice argument O’Q gives there, for why the documents were filed after the deadline. It was Jessica’s fault, I guess. Or whoever took over for Jessica. And then the issue of the O’Q affidavit. O’Q needed to look at it before he signed it? So then who wrote it? While O’Q was busy being an attorney? I swear if the FL judge buys this one I’m done. Deadlines are just that. Deadlines. Meet it or you are a big fat looser. No more bloody excuses.

  12. Liann says:

    If this is how a so called high power attorney works, OMG, He is not responsible for anything, Its the other guys fault, He said he did not say it, ok he said it but he did not believe it Or any reasonable person would have believed him, ok he said it and now believes it because his investigator told him it was true Because his investigator followed the media and Internet, which by the way all the accusations were started by him, his client, and his investigation team in the media and Internet. He was told by other pundits on numerous shows how irresponsible he was for his accusations. His other response was that he was leveling the playing field, There was no playing field, Just a court proceeding on were the body should be buried, He was looking toward the next playing field, The Marshall money. but now it is all repeating what he was told as fact, What is O’Q a parrot or mocking bird? What is next defence?, The devil made me do it. Now saying he believes it, I think imo that is just to save face.
    What ever happened to O’Q saying that he wanted to be sued by Howard? Or was he saying that for if he got sued that he would turn around and sue Howard?.
    Remember McCabe’s statement on LKL when Howard and L. Wood were on I think it was in Oct. of 07,” How Howard would regret suing him as in I think Oscar Wilde in a case for libel”? I took that as a flat out call out., Now that Howard put him on blast O’Q has one excuse after the next. I am understanding how the court system works with all these cases and I have all the faith, If a woman with no real law education at all can see right through this I sure hope that a court of law has much better insight and hopefully knows his background courtroom antics, will not allow his antics to go on any further

  13. raven says:

    Butterfly #1 lol I dropped by cell in my glass of tea while on my way home, so if the tea hadn’t been there it would have probably wound up under the seat.:)

  14. raven says:

    O’Q left out two excuses. He didn’t think about the Florida time zone…or he didn’t realize that daylight savings time was still in effect. lol

  15. Liann says:

    IMO, O’Q has avoided so many questions, I think in his depo he lied, He knew who Wilma was, Did they take different planes at the time going to Fla. or the Bahamas? When DC was starting his investigation with his helper?

    I hope that they get any kind of surveillance cameras to say that they were on different planes. Everyone rushed to Fla. then the Bahamas. The whole was gang was there, Rita, Opri, O’Quinn, …etc. I thought that private planes were small and a reasonable person would know who is sitting next to them.

  16. Liann says:

    I should say with my last commit, That O’Q’s team has tried to pick apart everything about Anna, Howard and now his counsel L.Wood, Now it is time for L.Wood and Howard to not pull out any stops, Start from the beginning and work your way down from all the lies and books and the court case in retaliation, have the gloves off. Get to why Howard is suing him, not all O’Q excuses, I know that the court has to hear all this But damn O’Q just make a point and stick to it. Every step that team Tx. did is documented somewhere or somehow can be checked out.. Maybe tried to go over and cover tracts like Rita did, That was the best advise Rita took,,, NOT, Didn’t Rita say that she consulted with her atty, and a respected investigator and his assistant? or I should A Attorney?.

  17. hmm says:

    The more I read about these lawsuits the less i think our justice system is fair and impartial.Excuses excuses from O’Quinn it is never his fault.So the judge should jsut take his word LOL after ever stall tactic in every case he has had.They sure are keeping VA on a short leash.Maybe they think than people won’t know shemayed herself a public figure JMHO

  18. Beth says:

    *~* Dear Rose,
    I was watching the show; “Bones” and towards the end they had this great song!
    Almost a Blues / Jazz feel to it…
    The song is called “Black River” by Amos Lee & Priscilla Ahn.
    Then I searched further on youtube and found her song “Dream”.
    I guess this Priscilla Ahn does the song Rain from Greys Anatomy and another for the show Ugly Betty.
    Anyway I didn’t know if you have heard of these artists before, and wanted to let you know of them.
    **Kind of a belated birthday gift for you**

    Hope you like the music…
    Dream > “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKfDwChOoHI&NR=1″
    Black River > “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksYvwn_aT0A&feature=related”

    ps: Thanks Ken for the hard work on the chat room.

  19. butterfly says:

    lol @ BEth… Conspiracy to TELL THE TRUTH! too funny love it! I wish these lawsuits would just get to trial. I wanna watch every1 run lol. When it comes down to the finale I cant imagine any of these defendants running to give their testimony.

  20. BEVERLY says:

    To my way of thinking,this is OQ last change to slander,libel Howard,and do it legal(in the context of court papers)OQ found he could not reopen Anna,s case,he lost every every court battle for Virgie Arthur his client,now,the question that has my interest,with Virgie making a lot of money off of TV appearances,and comments for magazines,WHY would OQ take her case Pro-Bono,I would like to know what money OQ made for the different shows he was on,slandering Howard,and how much of the firms money was spent and being spent on Virgie Arthur.It is not Howard dishonesty the court has to worry about,it is OQ DISHONESTY

  21. Lizzie says:

    Off Topic, but very interesting report … specially the possible penalty involved.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7660811.stm

  22. JMA says:

    Beth [8] what gets me is O’Quinn files a defamation suit on behalf of Virgie due to what was found in public records and claims it defamed her by which ruined her chances of getting custody of Dannielynn. However, when Don Clark uses media gossip and bloggers opinions as some sort of proof that Howard was/is responsible for the death of Anna and Daniel that is acceptable in their eyes.

    Therefore, in O’Quinn’s opinion, what is in public records is a conspiracy to defame his client but media/blogger gossip concerning Howard Stern is not.

  23. JMA says:

    Liann [12] exactly what does he mean by “leveling the playing field,” I mean this is not the schoolyard. To me that was a very childish remark on O’Quinn’s behalf.

  24. NCUser1 says:

    JMA #22. You are so right! How crazy is that? And how reliable are the courts to see this?

  25. BEVERLY says:

    JMA——-MY OPINION——When OQ said he wanted to level the playing field,he meant,because Virgie Arthur was getting bad press,OQ wanted to make sure Howard got just as bad press,in other words,get Howard as muddy as he could,Virgie was getting a mommie dearest reputation,so OQ ,gave Howard a (m) reputation.that is why,i keep saying MALICE/

  26. JMA says:

    Beverly but O’Quinn fails to acknowledge that Virgie’s bad press was from public records as where Howard’s was made up bullshit via media and bloggers. So I seriously do not get where that levels the playing field as far as what is documented fact as opposed to made up crap. But then again I have never understood Team Texas’s way of thinking either, especially O’Quinn’s.

    As far as Virgie’s “Mommie Dearest” reputation goes, does not matter whether Virgie and her entire Team of Stupid’s like it, those were Anna’s thoughts and feelings towards her mother.

  27. BEVERLY says:

    JMA——-OQ did not care to acknowledge anything and where it came from,as long as his statement about Howard was out in the public it was out for the public to read,He was not into public records,just destroying ,and giving Howard a bad reputation and you better believe with Virgie blessing.You see,they never in this world thought they would have to answer for what was done and said.Just like Rita did not give a damm,just getting her book out FACTS BE DAMM.the objective was to destroy Howard.MALICE

  28. Roxanne says:

    Can we just change O’Quinns name to O’Excuses? “If we had any inclination that it would take 30 minutes to upload the first motion then we would have started the process earlier” BLAH BLAH BLAH. That one sentence tells you that the motions were ready to be filed BEFORE they started them because they could have filed them earlier. What kind of game is O’Quinn playing here? Why wait so late if you can file them earlier? I really hope the judge has had enough of O’Quinn’s games and excuses. He needs a slap in the face by the judge. This slap on the back of the hand, “bad boy,” isn’t working. O’Quinn is making a mockery of the system and the judge.

  29. Ann says:

    It’s going to be interesting to see what the judge rules. The way I see it, if the judge accepts O’Quinn’s interpetation of the rule, it will basically gut it. I wonder if the judge wants to go out on that limb.

    O’Quinn is thumbing his nose at the court. His attitude appears to be that he will set his own priorities and deadlines not the court. He seems to be accustomed to throwing his weight around.

  30. savesomething says:

    Good afternoon Ladys,
    I have 2 questions.When O”Q return any papers to the court do he have to pay for it? cause whit all the filling it mint cost a fortune!
    and second When the judge will statuate on the late filling of O”Q? this firm is really the dirtyest one I ever see.

  31. JMA says:

    Ann we can only hope that the judge does not tolerate O’Quinn’s attitude and gives him a good old fashion adjustment. O’Quinn needs to remember this is not his good old Texas courts that he is trying to throw his weight around in so let us hope the judge shows him that.

  32. hmm says:

    You got that right JMA Florida is not Texas and federal court is not state court where you can get a judge on your side.I agree O’Quinn is thumbing his nose at the Florida federal courts and needs to be slapped down good and hard.Howard has nothing on his record while O’Quinn has manny manny things against him non of them good

  33. Beth says:

    It is a bit after 3:00 pm here… Just stepping in from a very long day that started @ 6:00 am….

    Saves, (#30)
    1 - When O’Quinn files ‘Responses’ I do not believe there is a filing fee. To start a case like to make a ‘Motion’ those can be anywhere from $75.00 to a few hundred dollars. I do know even in an open case to file an Order to Show Cause is almost $50.00 here in CA. I believe the Courts in each State has a fee schedule for motions filed. Depending on what action is filed will be a different fee.
    2 - Most likely the Judge will NOT Order a sanction on this late filing due to the fact that it is ‘within (1) day of deadline. I bet the Judge will not be so lenient next time O’Quinn and his lawyers mess up though.
    *Hope this is of some help dear!

  34. Beth says:

    Thanks Miss Butterfly, I even laughed after I wrote that…

    JMA, You know I am still wondering if that TX case may be dismissed due to her (VA) not being able to show any loss.
    [Remember they have not got very far in that case yet]

    -You can’t lose a custody case if you never followed through with one.
    -You cannot lose your reputation as a mother; when her own actions of the gun incident and giving Anna away (or making her leave) as a teen are from VA’s own actions.
    -You cannot lose anything if your own actions to marry from either relatives or ’semi in-laws, or step, or whatever’ whether it be before or after her own family married with in that family… well Hell! Now, I am LOST! ;) Regardless! She cannot holler ‘loss’ when it was all of her actions of her own free will.

    Of course this is the way it should end up, but we will see how far O’Quinn and company can keep this case in TX going…
    It should be dismissed for ‘Stupid’ if you ask me.

  35. BEVERLY says:

    BETH——–I am hoping Howard and Lin Wood ask for IRS records of Virgie Arthur.that underhanded snake will never report all her money she made off of pictures and tv shows,bethI want to tell you something,that I learned when over at topix(thank god that got over)all of them tryed,in a sneaky way,to get me to say,my opinion of Virgie was formed by what I read on the bloggs,and they got real upset when I said my opinion was formed by Virgie own actions on TV,AT THE FUNERAL ,AT THE BOOK SIGNING.They are trying to get evidence to bring to OQ and McCabe.If you could have seen the sweet talk,trying to get me to say my opinion was formed by bloggs,and when I did not out came the insults.

  36. Beth says:

    That is very interesting Beverly! I truly believe in my heart that is the case with most people. The fact that they have seen her actions, and heard from her own daughter; Anna of what type of person she really was and is.
    I honestly do not ever see the O’Quinn / Virgie team producing any credible facts of any damage done to her. Case Dismissed! ;)

    *And for all (LOL for the 5 or 6 virgie supporters) on that un-namable site! They were on Anna and Howard’s side once upon a time. Until! They either got scared that they would be implicated in that frivolous TX suit or paid off. JMO
    **I have always wondered since they were made to change their minds… Why hasn’t the site been renamed?
    Something like: AnnaNicoleandherlovingmotherVirgiealongwiththeknightJohnO’quinnandhisidekickDonClark (dot) com.
    If they hate Howard so much, why name their site after him? :lol:

  37. Beth says:

    Sammy, Sammy, Sammy!
    Try to catch Rachel tonight about 40 to 45 minutes into the show.
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/
    “Meet Sarah Palin’s radical right-wing pals”
    “Extremists Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll helped launch Palin’s political career in Alaska, and in return had influence over policy. “Her door was open,” says Chryson — and still is.”
    Three (3) pages of a in-depth investigation.
    Palin/McCain have released a statement tonight of ‘clearing’ Palin in Troopergate… ;)
    according to them anyway, as something from the actual investigation is coming out tomorrow. Todd Palin has 25 page of testimony, Damn would I like to skim through those Q & A’s!
    Take care. ~B~

  38. BEVERLY says:

    WHY BETH—–What is the matter for you,don,t you have any idea ,how defamed,and upsetting it has to be,to be put up in the best hotel,s have I cannot count them, trips to the bahamas best food,makeover, now,can,t you just sit and cry.And I can honestly said,I do not believe the Pro-Bono (BS)Not when the client is raking in money ,and the lawyer is putting out millions.That is why OQ does not want Howard to look at financial reports,NOT because Howard is untrust worthy,but because Howard will see the Lies on the report.For tax reason,s (PRO-bono),I do not think it has anything to do,with ,he does not want Howard knowing his worth,because Lin Wood,would tell him.It has to do with deductions.

  39. BEVERLY says:

    MY views on the Palin/McCain–Obama/Biden front————–There is no one that has all the answers,Beware of those who claim they do.Well after years of men running the US,look what happened,When you see,after years of saving,your money going down the drain,your home foreclosed,and CEO having SPA treatments.and a few hookers here and there,You began to say,what the hell is the matter here.we get the same (bs) year after year.I will do this,I will do that.THIS AND THAT have not been done. I am sick to death of seeing woman,prancing around with there butts all showing,the boobs hanging out.and thinking MY ARE WE SOMETHING,NO THERE NOT.I would like to see woman get more respect for themselfs than what they are showing,INstead of picking apart some woman who are trying(PALIN)If anything show,s we need a woman in the white house,it is this mess we are in.and please do not tell me QBAMA has all the answers ,he does not/

  40. NCUser1 says:

    #37 Beth…You’re so funny! I love the idea for the site’s new name…..lmao.

    Let’s all continue to keep our fingers crossed for Howard and hope for the best. It’s way past time that good things come his way.

  41. butterfly says:

    lets c the politics had their own prostitution ring… One of the top cia agents just plead guilty to all sorts of bribery… One govt agency…dang cant think of name… Were all busted for cocaine… I see no difference in voting for the drug dealer down the street that cheats on his wife at a brothel..and any of those standing on tv every nite. Same thing IMO!!

  42. JMA says:

    Beth [35] exactly.

  43. JMA says:

    Beth [37] in reference to your last sentence, excellent point.

  44. savesomething says:

    Thaks Beth for your pertinent information I apreciate!

  45. Roxanne says:

    O’QUINN SLAPPED DOWN

    Judge won’t accept two motions filed after midnight. Howard has until October 27 to answer the one filed before midnight. Paper’s coming soon.

  46. Rose says:

    Howard K. Stern wins three Court Decisions and John O’Quinn wins one? Does this sound more like a baseball score then court rulings?

    October 10, 2008 Florida Federal Court for the Southern District strikes two of the three Motions for Summary Judgments filed by John O’Quinn and the O’Quinn Law Firm. Court leaves until October 27 for Howard K. Stern’s lawyers to file a Response for the third Motion still before the Court, Motion for Summary Judgment based on the theory of “Absence of Actual Malice”.

    http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1039

    October 8, 2008 New York Federal Court for the Southern District Issues Order that Rita Cosby can share all of her deposition and all of her confidential documents with the O’Quinn legal team for the Florida suit, but her legal team CANNOT share Howard K. Stern’s deposition and confidential documents absence a Court Order from Florida. Why would Rita’s lawyer offer up Rita to the Florida Court? Will be doing a new article tonight.

    http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1040

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