Patrik Simpson and Pol’ Atteu in their own words ~ Answer questions from Rose Speaks members And Extra Extra. Part Four of Rose Speaks Exclusive Interview
Posted by: Lyndal in All Things Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith "Portrait of an Icon", Carlos Diaz, Celebrity Trials, Daniel Smith, Dannielynn, Debra Opri, Dr. Khris, Exclusive Rose Speaks, Exclusive by Lyndal Harrington, Extra, Extra Tv, Ford Shelley, G Ben Thompson, Horizons law suit, Howard K Stern, Howard and Anna, Jack Harding, Jackie Hatten, Jody Babydol Gibson, Jody Gibson, Larry Birkhead, Lyndal Harrington, Mark "Hollywood" Hatten, Mark Hatten, Moe and Taz, Pol' Atteu and Patrik Simpson, Pol' and Patrik, Rose Speaks, Rose Speaks Exclusive, Virgie Arthur, Wayne Munroe, rosespeaks.comPatrik Simpson and Pol’ Atteu reveal more about their friendship with Anna Nicole Smith as they answer your questions below. Patrik thinks maybe I sent the virus I had through the phone lines, he and Shelby were pretty sick and Pol’ was taking care of them both as Pol’ never seems to catch what is going around. Pol’ is super at multi-tasking going from fashion to cooking for the family. Patrik has been playing catch up this last week and that is the reason behind the answers to your questions taking awhile coming from them, also, they wanted to take their time in the answers to you … our members. Yes, they have read the site and appreciate the support from Rosespeaks.com for the interviews, covering all the lawsuits and the support from YOU our members.
They come across as wonderful parents and they both have a mighty big heart. I’ve really enjoyed getting to know them and being able to be ourselves while chit chatting about all things from Anna Nicole Smith to haircuts to sharing stories and proud moments about our daughters.
Look for them on Extra this week in an exclusive interview with Carlos Diaz. They met Carlos Diaz while in the Bahamas, so it was a very comfortable interview. They will be in the studio with Carlos and at the Pol’ Atteu Boutique showing off some of Pol’s one of a kind dresses’ made for Anna. We only know at this time… the interview on Extra will be on one day this week, during “sweeps week”, when they find out for sure what day…. They will let us know first!
Here are the questions and answers by Pol’ Atteu and Patrik Simpson from our members.
1. Though I knew the why’s of Anna Nicole going to the Bahamas I’m wondering if once there, before Daniel died, if she was happy? She was happy to be away from the tabloids/paps and those that wanted to intrude on her every move? I know she made her living in front of cameras and I think that’s where the idea came to plug the new show. She could still do her thing and make a living and then escape it all. We never saw paps climbing the walls, or sitting in trees trying to get the money shot while she was there. If Daniel Smith hadn’t died, I envision her to finally have found some peace and comfort where she could have raised her daughter. Am I off the mark or just wishful thinking.
Answer: Yes. Before anyone knew Anna was in the Bahamas, she had a little time to get some much needed R & R. The Bahamas was going to be her safe haven. A place where she could “let her hair down” and relax and have her baby without the prying eyes of the paparazzi. She told us before she left we should buy a house next to hers. We had looked at a few properties there. Sadly, her safe haven turned out to be her worst nightmare. If Daniel Smith had never passed away, Anna would have been able to find the peace and solace she so desperately sought.
2. I wonder if Pol’ and Patrik have thought about doing a line of classy dresses for women 12 and up?
Answer: Two things. First, Patrik is the owner of Network International Models & Talent in Beverly Hills. Pol’ is the Couture Designer. Pol’ made many dresses for Anna when she was plus size & when she was thin. He fits women of all shapes and sizes. His specialty has always been high fashion couture, but coming soon will be a contemporary line of clothing. The new casual line will be affordable and mainstream. We are both excited about it’s upcoming debut. Plus both of us are creating a men’s line coming soon. Our daughter Shelby is getting into the design business, too. Shelby and Pol’ are working on a new teen line that they are designing together.
3. Did they see more then friends when it came to Anna & Howard’s relationship?
Answer: Yes. They were more than just friends. The commitment that they had to each other exhibited the true nature of their relationship.
4. How did Daniel Smith feel about Howard K. Stern and what do they think of the PI that said Daniel was scared and concerned about Howard, or was it more like Daniel was worried about Anna’s friends Ford Shelly and G. Ben Thompson?
Answer: Daniel and Howard were like brothers more than a father-son relationship. They hung out together many many times.
5. Did Anna Nicole Smith talk about her childhood with them?
Answer: Yes. Many times. The stories and intimate details that Anna confided in with us about her childhood and her relationships with her mother, brother and step-father are a complete book in itself. We printed the email in our book in which Anna describes her mother as a monster only to show everyone what Anna thought of her mother. Those were NOT our words, but Anna’s.
6. I have a question for Pol’ and Patrik did they know either of the Hattens?
Answer: No. We had not heard of Jackie Hatten until after Daniel died. She came to the Bahamas house while we were there, and Anna told “Big” Moe, Anna’s bodyguard and friend, to tell her to go away. We spoke to Jackie after Anna passed away. Patrik spoke with her on the phone when she reached out to offer her condolences. They have spoken on the phone a few times. I’m sure one day they will meet face to face.
7. I actually have a question for Pol ‘and Patrik. What is their secret to balancing their careers and raising the beautiful daughter they have? It’s hard with working parents as sometimes my own husband is putting in double shifts.
Answer: The key to success is the balance of mutual love and respect we have for one another and our family unit. We maintain an unprecedented commitment to each other. Our daughter is always first no matter what we do. She comes even before us or our businesses. NO matter how busy we all are, we ALWAYS have a night every week that we spend the ENTIRE evening togther. Pol’ is an exceptional Fmother (we explain that in our book) and keeps Shelby pretty well-grounded.
8. First of all, if you don’t mind me asking, why do you spell it ‘Pol’?
Answer: Because of the way it is supposed to be pronounced. My mother had a strong Armenian accent and that’s way she said my name. It’s pronounced POLE not Paul. Out of respect for my deceased mother I honor the way she pronounced my name.
9. What did you think when you saw Ford Shelley trash your $5,000.00 dress?
Answer: I didn’t know that happened. If it did, it doesn’t matter. I know how beautiful my designs are. I put love and devotion into everything I create no matter what their social scale is. If my name is going to be on that dress I make sure it’s the best in fit, design and quality. The key is to make sure my clients walk away from me feeling like a million bucks. Any woman that has worn one of my dresses can tell you from firsthand knowledge what an amazing experience it is to wear a Pol’ Atteu.
10. How did you get involved with that sketchyass publisher in the first place?
Answer: Ms. Gibson came to Pol’s boutique for a dress. Our publicist referred her to us. We are very kind and generous people, and sometimes a little to trusting. She said she had a small publishing company and she really made us believe she cared about the project and would make sure a beautiful tribute book was put together. It was important for us to make sure the book had a certain level of class and elegance to it, and that it would be a “must-have” for all of Anna’s fans. We wanted a book that was easy to read, had some very beautiful pictures and showed the intimate friendship we shared with Anna. When it became CLEAR to us that the “convicted felon” could NOT accomplish this, we terminated our agreement and published the book through Kings Road Publishing.
11. In your book you said that right before Anna died she was cramping with a lot and bleeding- do you think she could have been pregnant?
Answer: We knew Anna had wanted another baby after Dannielynn. If you remember, she kept teasing about that. Anna had wanted to start a new family in the Bahamas. She said she wanted another girl. I don’t know if she could ever had a boy, it never would have been the same without Daniel.
12. Do you think that Anna is proud of Howard now? (For getting her buried next to her son and doing everything he can within his power to keep her baby girl safe)
Answer: Yes. I’m sure Anna is proud of all of us who fought tirelessly to make sure that HER wishes were carried out. Patrik sat right next to Anna Nicole when she picked out the burial plots, and was very CLEAR that there had to be enough plots for them all to be buried together. She was also VERY CLEAR about wanting J. Howard Marshall’s ashes placed in the casket with her. I know that she is looking down on us from heaven, smiling and happy, that we were able to honor what she wanted. Anna was so stubborn when she was alive. We had to make sure HER wishes were followed after she was gone.
13. If you are willing to, explain the effect Anna and Daniel’s Smith death has had on Howard K. Stern.
Answer: Anna’s death was completely devastating for all of us that loved her. I don’t think Howard has ever been the same since she passed away. I know we haven’t. Anna was like this “light” in our lives that always knew how to make us smile. We loved each other with no conditions and no boundaries. As we said in our book, we maybe didn’t always agree with the choices she made, but as her friend we gave her our love and support. It’s never been the same without her. I miss her funny little text messages, her blatant statements and her undeniable charm and appeal she had on us.
14. Do you think that Larry Birkhead feels any guilt towards Anna’s death? (i.e. Debra “Anna and Howard are dying Dannielynn’s hair” Opri)
Answer: We never knew of Anna dying the baby’s hair?!? I can only say that people don’t change. If there was an agenda before Anna died, I’m sure there is an agenda now. When Anna was alive, she protected her children. Any parent does.
15. Years ago, Hollywood was known for its glamour. The red carpet was a place for the stars to shine and be portrayed as royalty. Now it seems that tabloids have tainted that image. The Oscars and Globes ratings have fallen. Is it due to lack of interest or are the stars no longer on a pedestal as they once were? The human frailties that everyone has are now splashed across websites and magazines for fodder to snark over. Are people more interested in the train wreck aspect than the fan aspect? Has it changed the atmosphere in Hollywood from years gone past?
Answer: We don’t think anything has changed. Maybe the year, maybe the face..but, it’s always the same. Let’s face it. People reading the magazines and clicking on those celeb websites don’t want to read about something good. They want DIRT. Why do you think these magazines sell like hotcakes? Were not sure the ratings have fallen? It’s more like there is MORE competition. It used to be just the National Enquirer and The Star, now you have over 10 solid rag-mags published every week. But, it’s no different from day one in Hollywood. We have learned Hollywood loves to build you up, only so they can tear you down, and then build you back up again. That’s why it is so true that ONLY the STRONG survive this business. But, for us, it’s something we love to do. Pol’ takes great pleasure in making a woman feel her utmost sexy in one of his gowns. Patrik gets a personal high from taking a model and grooming and molding them, and then putting them in a magazine. We don’t think we could do anything else.
16. You mention a talent agency. You’re not like Donny Bonaduce? are you? 
Looking for the next child star? Does Shelby want to be in the biz?
Answer: Patrik has the model and talent agency, Network International Models & Talent. http:www.network-models.com. The agency is licensed and bonded in the state of California and has been open for over 16 years. It’s not an easy industry to be in, let alone for over 16 years. Network International Models & Talent is ALWAYS looking for its next star, but I think the media misrepresents a lot of what goes on in this industry. It all boils down to the parents. If the parents of a kid in the entertainment industry were bad parents before their child starting doing commercials, they are going to be bad parents afterwards. Plain and simple. Shelby is a model and an actress. She recently booked her first cover. You can see her on the cover of Zodi-Habit magazine. http://www.zodihabit.com She also just competed in New York City in the MAAI’s (Modeling Association of America International’s annual modeling convention, and won a Summer scholarship to The New York Conservatory for Dramatic Arts. We are very proud of her. She sings, she dances, acts and models. It was a natural thing that Shelby would be in this business because she has been around it all her life. She was on the Anna Nicole E Special “Anna Goes To Camp” and she’s starring in “Designer Family” with us. However, we are STRICT parents. There are auditions we have NOT let her attend because she didn’t have her homework done. That’s the key to making sure your child grows up healthy and happy in this industry…KEEP THEM GROUNDED and well adjusted. We would have supported Shelby in any career choice she wanted. That’s what good parents do.
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS——-
17. What was Anna’s relationship with DR E, where they good friends?
Answer: She loved Anna and Anna adored her. She, along with us helped take care of Dannielynn, and gave unconditional support and friendship to Anna. All these bloggers that want to blame Dr. Khris for Anna’s death don’t know the real story. If Khris Erosovich could trade places with Anna, she would, in a heartbeat. We love Khris and will always support her. She was Anna’s friend. Again, as we have stated many, many times a true friend will love and support you no matter what. That’s what Khris did.
18. Was the doctor there with Anna a lot of the time, did Anna ever go on dining alone with Howard?
Answer: We were all there with Anna & Howard. Khris, along with us made many frequent trips to the Bahamas. But, there were many times that none of us was there and it was just Anna & Howard. One of Anna’s favorite places to go with Howard was the “Poopdeck”. It’s in the central part of town, and quite well-known.
19. The gowns that were designed for Anna Nicole Smith are beautiful. Is there anything in place to protect them in the future so that they are not damaged? A exhibition of these beautiful dresses would be lovely. When everything settles down of course. I think that Anna is firmly in the history books and the dresses you designed are a part of her public life.
Answer: Someday they will be unveiled and showcased. Right now we are considering many options to make that possible. Anna is a part of history and will always be an ICON of our time. We may hold an auction for charity, or possibly open a museum. We want to make it possible for Anna’s fans to see all the beautiful gowns Pol’ created for her.
20. What did Anna and Howard say to each other in their vows??
Answer: The universal language of their love and commitment to each other was revealed in the look of their eyes staring into each others.
21. Could you elaborate about why Ford Shelley and crew couldn’t be stopped from taking things from Horizons?
Answer: That’s one of the hardest things Pol’ ever had to do: stand there and watch them pillage Anna’s home. At the time, there was NO establishment of residence in place. Technically, there was no LEGAL way to stop Ford Shelley and crew from doing what they did. While that was going on, an attorney for Howard, Wayne Munroe, was in court to get a court order to get the house back, which would have prevented Ford and crew from doing what they did. Pol’ was outside with the Police waiting, so even if he wanted to do something, he couldn’t. It was the most helpless feeling. And, to make it even worse afterwards and walk in to see what a disheveled mess was left behind. Once those court orders were in place, Pol’ had the locks changed to prevent them from coming back and then immediately went to the Bahamas Police Station to file the theft report.
22. & 23. What was the mood in the house the day the dna test revealed that Howard K. Stern was not Dannielynn biodad? What was the mood in the house when Larry Birkhead left with Dannielynn? How was Howard? (If you don’t want to answer those last two questions cause you don’t feel like it would be appropriate I would understand. I don’t know if it was appropriate from me to even ask them)
Answer: All of us were devastated. Dannielynn was the last real connection to Anna Nicole Smith. When Larry took Dannielynn out of the Bahamas, he had taken her from everything she had ever known. Her safety, security and her home. And, if Anna were alive today that NEVER would have happened.
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May 18, 2008
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Patrik and Pol’,
Thank you for taking your time to answer questions with Lyndal. All three of you have done a great job in answering the questions that we have asked! I am very proud for all of you. It sounds like you are doing a wonderful job with your young daughter. These children are our future, the world will be a better place to have these kids grow up well-grounded. Good job all of you!
Good luck on your book, I am glad that finally someone who Anna trusted and cared about as a friend has written the truth about her. I hope that you will be able to see Dannielynn in the future for the holidays or her birthday every year… I think Anna would have wanted you both and your daughter to be in her life.
Thanks again!
Patrick and Pol, thank you for the answers, and being the great friends Anna needed in her life. You are doing a great job raising your daughter, and she will make you proud. It will be a honor to read your book, and keep a watchfull eye on the future of your designs.
Please come back and join in with the Rose site more.
Thank-you for the very interesting interview. I enjoyed it. An employee sent me a link to another interview Pol and Patrik did, but there were questions unanswered at that time. It was a very good interview though. If I can find the link and anyone would like to see it please let me know.
Dear cocoaBelle,
I believe we have all heard of the other interview and know where it is… thanks though. Oh, glad you enjoyed this interview! We all think that Rose and Lyndal truly give true and accurate statements in their writings. Well, thanks again and have a nice evening.
THANK YOU PATRIK AND POL——FOR YOUR HONEST ANSWERS,I am sorry you feel upset that larry took Dannielynn out of the bahamas,YOU CANNOT BLAME LARRY,he is dannielynn Father,and any man would want his child I have no knowledge of what was on Anna,s mind,but you do not have a child by a man,lead him on,and then say (get lost) ANNA created,this situation.and it is something I never understood,Anna and Howard could not build a life on a lie,I am sure Howard will always be in Dannielynn,s life,THE LORD works in mysteryous ways,and as hard as it is to understand,what if Anna had lived,I think God was looking out for dannielynn,I hurt for Howard,who in order to keep his promise to Anna,has been slandered,and hurt deeply by people who have no idea how much he loved anna,With the help of true friends,Howard will be all right,MY WISH IS THAT HOWARD WOULD WRITE A BOOK,Anna told a lot of people about her feeling toward her mother,and it was always the same,she hated her,with all these people with that knowledge I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW VIRGIE CAN BLAME ANYONE BUT HERSELF,FOR ANNA FEELING TOWARD HER,
Well said Beth, Thank you. Yeah, I actually “Talked” to them for the interview and Patrik told me the other one was strictly by email and they are hoping the other site owner will make the corrections they requested, that’s from the link I’m sure Cocoabelle would gladly provide us from her “employee”.
Great Interview Lyndal
Pol and Patrik, all I can say is thank you, it is soooooo nice to read nice stuff about Anna. I am sure she is looking down with a big smile on her face!!!!!!
I am very happy she had some good friends like you 2 to tell the us about the real Anna. Also it’s nice to hear from somebody that was around Anna and Howard confirm the love they had for each other
I find it so refreshing to hear things from people that were actually involved in Anna’s life instead of people that she hadn’t seen for years trying to gain their 15 minutes of fame’
It’s too bad that some of the media tends to base it stories on hearsay rather than looking for the truth. I found Pol and Patric to be very good friend’s of Anna”s They were there when so many events happened, such as the burial plots being picked out by Anna and how strongly she felt about where and what Knd of burial she wanted for Daniel and also for herself, Howard and DL and the late Marshall’s ashes. It must have been very frustrating for them and Howard to watch what happened after Anna died, knowing that they knew that Anna wanted to be buried in the Bahama’s.
Thank Goodness Anna had some true friend’s like Pol and Patric.
Hello Beverly,
Hope all is good and you are feeling well. I am off until tomorrow…
Rose ~~ great job on the Lori Drew article! Thank you.
Everyone ~ have a great evening. ( be sweet )
Tianna,
It has been awhile - take care of yourself.
Goodnight all.
Lyndal ~ you’re welcome. Again, GREAT JOB! Very impressed on how well you have done on the this interview and the other one w/ Daniel DiCriscio!
~Later~
Oh I love reading nice things about Anna. It makes all the bad stuff irrelevant that was written about her as if it was about another person.
Thankyou for answering my question about her dresses, it is good to know that one day we might see them
If I order the book… who will get my address? The publishing company and its employees?
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE SCHOLARSHIP THAT IS TOOOOO COOL 4 Shelby!
Cool. Can’t wait for the update on Extra.
I am soooo glad all of ANS’s friends have came out with the truth for us here {including Daniel D. & Nathan]. That completely stinks that SC crew went down there and stealing evidence, DL’s things, etc. CRAZY.
OK, so it looks like since its their website, they would get it lol. right?
Great article Lyndal and Pol and Patric thanks for answering our questions.Was nice to know you were there for Anna and Howard when they needed you and that you stayed the course.Sounds like you are handling you daughter right and she will continue to make you proud.I would like to see the court case between Daniel DiCriscio and Bobby Trendy.I know they went on court TV or something like that but i couldn’t find a video of it and i am sure ther has to be one> Any one know or have a link.
Rose yes it was a great article on Lori Drew even if every time I even think about what was done to her I cry.I just can’t get past the mother doing what she did.Kids,teens have tiffs all the time and they get over them on their own,I will never understand why she had to get in the middle and the daughter and the 18 year old employee going along with and writing and laughting about it are just as bad as the Mother.
Lyndal, great article thank you Patrick, Pol and Lyndal.
cocoaBelle, really not in the mood for you tonight.
Thank you for all the honest answers. I have always believed every word you said on TV about Anna, Daniel, and Howard. You could tell that you were her REAL friends and it showed. You are a great friend and Howard still needs you. The closeness you all had is what makes true friendships. Your honesty is much appreciated and you seem very sincere.
Great interview Lyndal,
Many Thanks go out to Pol and Patrik, Thank you for your insight, Well, I would like to think that my friends here kind of know me, and sometimes I
have a knee jerk reaction to things, I am just so happy to hear positive words said about Anna, She was not just this crazy blond that sold rag mags.
I have always felt that there was so much more depth to her. She knew what she was doing and kept the ones she could trust close. At that last interview
with HKS and Greta, Greta showed a interview that she did with Anna, (back in the day), Anna said her best friend in the world was Howard. I truly
believe that when those four plots were bought, Anna included Howard to be with her also.
Thanks Again.
Beth,
#4, You are always a lady, well said.
Like I have said, “I am learning so much from all of you”.
Thank you Rose.
It’s late and I’m tired but had to log in to give thanks to Pol and Patrik for taking the time to respond to questions.
I can understand how you have made it in Hollywood as long as you have. You both are very grounded. No wonder your daughter has such a bright future! Boundries with love will ensure she has lots to look forward to and accomplish. She is probably quite proud of you both also for showing what it is to be a friend. Anna enlisted her trust in two caring individuals such as yourselves.
I’d also like to thank Rose and the moderaters for this site. I don’t read many places where I feel I actually ‘get’ something out of an article or a comment. That’s why I enjoyed Art’s site so much. Not just fluff but substance. I do appreciate it.
http://forum.purseblog.com/celebrity-section/anna-nicole-smiths-mother-suing-tmz-howard-k-295495.html
Another one. Typical comments. I think it’s quite obvious what the world thought of VA way before Jane/Yvonne’s story came out.
Tired, was it both or just one? Eh, whatever. Doesn’t matter now. What we DO KNOW is it sure as hell wasn’t Rose!
Thank you Lyndal.
And Gentlemen, you are lovely, sweet people. Anna Nicole was blessed to have you in her life.
And Shelby~Rock on kid! Great job!
GOOD MORNING BETH AND EVERYONE—— It is going to be a good day in the neighborhood,sun is out trees are starting to get there leaf,s,and my diet is working.they are starting to bring the boats,into the harhor,and soon time for tourist,I love it,you get to meet so many people ,although with the gas the way it is ,who knows..Well, this week,i have a feeling is going to be a good one,hope Virgie,S case is thrown out,if it is not,She better get ready to be DEFAMED EVEN MORE,As these court cases proceed,I am sorry to say,Virgie shows more and more of her personality.and truthfully Larry has nothing to worry about.I will use the term,(SHE IS BONKERS)Instead of understanding she was Anna problem,she looking to blame Howard or any one else,There would be no Social Service that would give Virgie Partical,custody,she is irrational,unstable,and as everyone can see,the thought is on herself,and money.I am glad Anna and Howard wen to the bahamas,Howard has met some truly nice people,and it is a beautiful place, for (RIP),I THINK THE BAHAMA PEOPLE ARE THE GREATEST,GOD BLESS THEM.
Lyndal Pol and Patric, thanks very much for that interview and taking the time to answer all those questions. It’s nice to hear something positive about Anna and the people in her life.
Hey All! Just like I said, I want able to comment not being on my own computer but I was able to keep up with whats going on.
Wow. What an interview from Patick and Pol! Also, I just want to clarify something.
I was the one who asked the question about the Shelley trashing Pol’s dress. I’m sorry, I should have been more specific. Although I wouldn put it past him, I wasn’t talking about Ford Shelly, I was talking about an episode of Anna’s show when Anna’s cousin shelly trashed a dress that Pol made for her. Sorry that I wasn’t more clear- I really should have been.
Also, I think that this very important and is worth repeating if its already been talked about..
ATTENTION PATICK AND POL!!!
Be aware of who you’re dealing with!!
I was doing some “lurking” on the other side on I stumbled upon this gem….
I found this is the comment section apparently from Red herself….
“red said…
I have Missys book and it’s fantastic. beautiful pictures.
I am not ‘personally’ supporting the guys’ book.
(as you can see in the article before it)
The link for the book below missys is for their first book. the one they don’t want SOLD……
that’s the one where all the good photos are…. that one is the UNAUTHORIZED version that they sued their publisher over.
They don’t want anyone to by from CORONA publisher, they want everyone to get the KINGS ROAD published one…..hmmmmm
They asked me to take that out of their ‘article’….
I did, and moved it to my ad section.
I do not own the guys’ book. Don’t plan on ever adding it to my Anna Collection, either.
all I was saying IF, a big IF, anyone does buy it, get it form my link, lmao. so I can make a dollar. that’s all I am saying.
“
PLEASE REMEMBER PATICK AND POL- THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY *SUPPORT* VERGIE ARTHUR!
TZ… I believe they know and that’s all I can say.
Perperment- on a below post you said something like how bettersweet it must be for Howard to see new pics of DL-something like that.
I so agree with you. I am always happy to see new pics of DL and to see how big a beautiful she’s getting, but I also always get a pang of sadness knowing that we’ll never get to see that pic of her now 22 year old big brother Daniel holding her and knowing that she isnt ever going to bond with the rest of her family like she should be (the rest of her family NOT being Vergie Arthur and crew, but Anna, Daniel and Howard)
Yes, TZ! I don’t really think it is a matter of supporting VA, I believe that it is the opposite of whomever this site supports. Example, if we loved only cats… they would put down all felines and support canines (dogs).
** SOMEONE ~ should really make it aware to those two nice men that their OTHER Q&A was for the sole purpose of making one look good and two other men look like they were something they are not. How sad that an interview cannot be done objectively, and have such a agenda! Here are two nice guys and their answers are getting twisted… the questions were ’so’ suggestive that everyone (except VA) was doing something wrong. Bet that’ll be the last one they get, if they only print ‘their’ truth and word it to TX’s advantage. I did try to speak in general… but today was very, very difficult to do that. Some people have cahones that is for sure! IMO
~ ~ ~ ~ The guys wanted to make sure you know…..If you buy a book through Patrik and Pol’s website, be sure to mention you are from Rose Speaks and they will sign your book between now and June 7th. ~ ~ ~ ~
BETH and others……….. THEY KNOW and they have good lawyers to advise them! It’s okay, I don’t think they are that worried.
They do love and respect this site … I know that for sure!!!!
Coco, since you are enjoying the site and claim you are not Havana, have you sent in you donation to help with the legal funds caused by the “employee”? That would prove who you really are.
Enjoyed the interview very much, I like those guys. They do need to realize that Howard needs support very much, and I think Howard probably knew the people who were with the guys on the book is why he didn’t want them to publish(like the other interview…twisting and adding), and also Howard more less has to support Larry because he loves Dannielynn.
Thanks Pol & Patrik for clarifying so much concerning Anna’s feelings towards Howard and her feelings concerning her mother.
Lyndal #27 Wow that’s cool
You know what Beth, I wouldn’t be have surprised if you’re right. (Supporting the opposite of who we support) Considering how clear Anna made it how she wanted her mother to have NOTHING to do with her child-children, and all the crap she has pulled since Daneil’s death- now fighting Larry for Dannielynn, that theory really does make some sense.
I don’t have any idea how they can possibly rationalize their support for a woman who tried to keep her birthgranddaughter with the man they all say is responsible for the death of Dannielynn’s mother and brother. Or how they can bemoan the fact that is so sad that Vergie isn’t allowed to be a part of Dannielynn’s life yet it is Vergie’s own actions- fighting Larry for custody of Dannielynn, thats keeping her out of Dannielynn’s life.
flowerz- bingo!
TZ #23 thanks for posting that for not just us [read it over there last week] but for Pol & Patrik’s to see what the Virgie supporters true intentions are. I read their answers to the email full of questions that Kerry sent and they answered in the same manor as they answered Lyndal’s phone conversations with them and also everyone elses questions from right here at Rose Speaks. These two knew the relationship between Anna & Howard and have confirmed it was a real romantic realtionship between them.
Beth #26 I agree
#27 Lyndal
What is their site address again?
TZ, what is red saying here…reads to me like missy needs red to promote her book.
28> Thanks Lyndal.
Shoot my protective instincts took hold of me! I sometimes just can’t stand IGNORANT INJUSTICE! {I will try not to worry then}
TZ ~ I have never been able to rationalize it either, as I have never heard a ‘argument’ for their beliefs that made any common sense. So, I truly have made up my mind that it is ONLY to support the opposite of this site… as that is the ONLY thing that makes sense. Of course, I would bet that they possibly got a ‘nudge’ to go in that direction thru threat of possible legal action against them. JMO
Must make some people very mad that we are not scared into doing a 360 degree change in our beliefs due to empty innuendos and certain unethical tactics of some bullies who desperately want to have their way no matter who they trample on to get it… IMO
Daisy #36 that’s the only reason Missy befriended any of those people. Her intentions were to sell her book.
Ann it’s at the bottom of the article. http://www.portraitofanicon.com
How Very Sad!! A six-year old dies from adult prescription fentanyl patch used on her little neck. I won’t even type what I am thinking about the adult…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356623,00.html
“6-year-old girl from East Harlem, N. Y., died Sunday afternoon after her foster mother gave her a fentanyl pain patch to treat her neck pain, reports 7online.com.”
“When Taylor Webster first complained to her foster mother, Joanne Alvarez, 54, of neck pain, Alvarez gave the girl Baby Motrin. When that didn’t work, Alvarez applied the fentanyl patch on Taylor’s skin.”
There are new Photos of Larry and Dannielynn out the pics was taken on May 17th …….they are at the Simpsons yellow carpet for the opening ride at Universal Studios in La………I’m told that Larry and Dannielynn are doing just great,that Dannielynn is a very happy little girl and is well taken care of by Larry.I do have one thing to say about Patrik and Pol no matter what differences they may or may not have with Larry,they have to understand that Larry is Dannielynn’s father and he is taken very good care of her.I don’t feel that it is approiate that they should be implying things about Larry when their are people that come on this site from the enemy camp……just looking for anything that could be used against Larry or Howard..I don’t think it is right that questions should be put forth asking about, what kind of relationship did Anna really have with Howard or whether or not Larry feels any guilt about Ann’s passing,I personally believe that such questions should only be pertained to Anna and Daniel and not about how Patrik or Pol may feel about Larry….they have to remember that what they say about Larry,Dannielynn will hear about it when she gets older…so if they really have Dannielynn’s best interest at heart they will not keep sayung things about her dad……..this is just my opinion of how I feel about this situation…….the past is the past…..Dannielynn is doing just fine.
OMG BETH. WTHELL are these parents thinking. THat is one of the STRONGEST pain meds out there OMG OMG OMG
I just ordered my book. I can’t wait to get it. They are wonderful people to honor Anna and speak the truth. I would love to have them as my friends.
Ivy,
YES! As a Judge in a Court wouldn’t allow hearsay, or statements on HOW someone else feels…
Though, I did think it was a good interview and written well - you might be right on the subject limitations.
I just loved the pic of Dannielynn on the celeberty-babies site! It was so close up and she does look very well and happy to me!
This makes me ILL. I have been prescribed the patch before… and during the first time, I refused to take it due to one manufacturers brand came off easily, I at the time had a 2 y/o that would gladly pull at something lilke that on mom’s skin or it would fall off easily, so for over a year I told the doctor NO. A different manufacturer of the patch has a better sticky one… OMG That is horrible.
I just ordered the book as well. I didn’t have a place to say I was from RoseSpeaks so I sent an email to the address was given.
butterfly,
Isn’t that just terrible! Though it might just be ignorance on the foster mother’s part… Any child who has neck pain should go straight to the doctor to see if it is meningitis! (sp) What an unnecessary and very sad loss of a child! Being a foster child I bet she was covered under medical for the State, that adult has some actions to answer for that is for sure!
Oh, I didn’t catch this part earlier on that link… (#40) This is at the very end: “Alvarez was reportedly charged with criminally negligent homicide, according to the TV station.” Alvarez > foster mother.
On the political front - McCain is sure verbally attacking Obama today on the cable news. I thought his politics were not going to hit below the belt?
The Turners latest filing in the Eastern District federal court today is up for eveyone to read (minus the attachements since they are already on the server), remember the documents are open to ALL visitors not just members.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=552
Ivy, did you read any of our prior comments to Patrick and Pol?
We addressed what you are talking about.
Also, it kind of makes you wonder Beth, why the mom had them. Normally people that take the patch, cant just hand them out as they stay on your body for 3 days in a row, then remove and replace. Now, if the mom herself was using them correctly and NEEDED them, then she would NOT have given her own patch up for treatment as well. Does that make sense? lol. Meaning she wouldn’t be able to not have a patch or would go without her own medicine for 3 days. Somethings fishy.
OUTSIDE of the death, obviously
Another picture of Dannielynn > http://www.celebritybabyscoop.com/?p=7869
Bless her heart, she looks adorable! Like pebbles in a Gwen Stafani outfit! She is looking at something to the right of her… being both eyes are uniformly at the same angle (towards the right at whatever ‘caught’ her attention) I bet her surgery was a success. Larry is a great photographer, I wish that he would take good picture for her 2nd birthday and let us see her smile at the camera…
butterfly > 51 Something is definately not right in that situation! Poor little thing, she should have been taken to the doctor! There are some good foster parents out there, but then some are not doing it just to help the children. Oh! That is one subject that gets me so upset!
Ivy, I agree, and if it was not for having Howard to be the punching bag now, it would be Larry. I’m sure his turn(even though he has already had a good dose of them) is next, just as soon as Howard’s deal is over and done with.
Rose, just read the new download…..enjoyed it very much. lol I won’t say “bingo”, but I did think “boomarang”. Good luck!
Beth, thanks for the link. Dannielynn is just beautiful. Now that is the cutest child I think I have ever seen. Except for my grandchildren. LOL…
I don’t know ray… wanna swap grandchildren photos???? LOL
YES!!!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5789965.html
Lawmakers seek state probe of Harris County Sheriff’s Office
Let’s see, their prosecutor went somewhere else.
The DA got caught DELETING emails.
CIA Agent…
They are in middle of huge drug battle
They removed the WARDEN of the prisons
LOL
Everyone’s own children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren are beautiful!
Is it just me or does it seem Dannielynn’s hair has a tint of strawberry blonde to it? Though, no matter… everyone’s haircolor changes as they grow older. I had blonde curly locks as a kid and now my hair is kindof auburn med to drk brown…
You’re welcome ray!
raven~I just read it also. Made sense to me. I liked the end where it stated… any further relief that the Turners are justly entitled.
Well, I should say so! The plantiff needs to reimburse everyone’s legal bills when this gets dismissed! IMO
WOW… a comment on there says the Sheriff’s office deleted ALL emails in Feb 2008 at the IT’s inconvenience…
IT means Information Technology lol, the computer geeks
Just this weekend I believe, they tried to do a huge drug bust and someone stole an ambulance and wrecked all the police cars?? How did this guy know what was going to happen?
butterfly,
Here is another link to that story: http://policecrimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3004&sid=5d9826487d00c10cf52e20eea4148c2b
“Harris County Sheriff’s office doesn’t have to go by the law”
This was interesting from your link on #58 http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5789965.html
“The group said they want to know whether the Sheriff’s Office “investigative support unit” has made it a habit of putting private citizens under surveillance without cause.”
Beth
Thank goodness these people filed, although obvious stuff has been happening down there recently. They use their power to harm people. Not good at all. I have always taught my children the police are here to help us. I was shocked when my 3 y/o started saying ‘cops are going to get me’ someone had taught her that. I have spent the past few weeks trying to correct her thoughts…
Kind of like when CPS came in, my daughter didn’t know what the word ’spanking’ was. Think 3 y/o mentality and someone puts it like this:
1. Does your mom take you to dance classes : Daughter nods head yes.
2. Do you like to do gymnastics: Daughter nods head yes
3. Does your mom ’spank’ you: Daughter nods head yes.
Being that she had never heard the word before, what do you think? I am still trying to correct that messup
OMG
I see exactly what you mean! The season finale of Desperate Housewives had a the child advocates come when the girl (9 -11) ? made up lies about Lynette.
I realize that is just a story line but, now I see why so many people get in trouble when they falsely accuse someone of wrongdoing when there is none.
I have seen Judge Judy award the max of $5,000 to a lady because her ex’s girlfriend falsely reported her… the $5,000 was for the lady (petitioner’s inconvienence)
OH Beth, it gets sooo much worse.
Do you know the little game you play, usually when kids are younger and you make the sound ‘Ohhhh’ and pat their mouth at the same time and it makes the funny sound they like? I wanna say ‘indian’ type game, doesn’t matter. Now when my daughter throws a massive screaming temper tantrum that doesnt stop after hours, she of course is in no mood to play, so I do the game and she stops cuz she doesnt want to play it.
Now imagine a black and white video camera, imagine a 3 year old screaming bloody murder [past bedtime lol] and mom playing the game. Would it look like I was beating my child, if you didn’t know the circumstances?
Perception of actual reality. Yes, too many judgements on so many different subjects in the world today! WITHOUT knowing the ‘totallity’ of the WHOLE TRUTH!
Yea, O’Q needs to learn that the next time he goes on national TV and accuses someone over and over of a felony criminal action… JMO
Well, I am off to get over $4.00 per gallon gas in my vehicle! That is another thing that is really getting me angry!
Imagine their surprise when I told them what the word [pronounced] ‘pah ‘pah is an African Creole word that means “don’t do that or stop”
My neighbor when my daughter was born was an African refugee saved from a camp. She used it with her daughter and so my daughter grew up with that word whenever she gets in ‘trouble’. They literally had to teach my daughter that word, for their plan to work. It didn’t work but it made me sad.
Good link about the storage Beth. It’s BS. Computer files can be archived and COMPRESSED for the future.
OH and if they think their plague of ants that is ‘taking’ over computer is going to work. NOPE. Those ants cant get the HARD DRIVES~
Sorry, not suppose to get angry on the board. Sometimes just can’t help it… Because they wont stop
JMA, wonder how many books that would get her sold…5 to 6.
butterfly, the way to beat a bully at their game is don’t play back, give them no attention and let nature take its course.
Daisy,
73 >
74 > True> NEVER let them know they have aggrevated or upset you. That is HOW you WIN!
“Great people talk about ideas.
Average people talk about things.
Small people talk about other people.”
Author: Unknown
Very good Lyndal!!!!
thanks daisy… i tried that already and it didnt work
“House Takes Up Net Neutrality Debate Will FCC principles become law of the land? May 6, 2008 By Kenneth Corbin”
http://www.internetnews.com/government/article.php/3745181/House+Takes+Up+Net+Neutrality+Debate.htm
“A House subcommittee held a hearing today to consider legislation that would codify broad principles intended to prevent Internet service providers (ISPs) from slowing or degrading the delivery of certain content over their networks.
Once again, all sides of the Net Neutrality debate lined up to stake their positions while the House debated the latest bill addressing how traffic on ISPs should be treated.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080519/ap_on_bi_ge/foreclosure_habitat
Foreclosures mean opportunity for Habitat charity
The bright side lol. There have been a TON of mortgage fraud that I have been reading lately and seems to be some of the reasons for all this realty trouble. Someone always looking for more money takes down the innocent. Sad.
time is on your side
And I haven’t been talking about any stupid topix bloggers for a LONG time now!
Ok the other filing today was in Houston the CBS and KPRC initial disclosures of list of witnesses, very short to the point about Virgie being a public figure not a private one and how much did she make from her appearances or selling pictures etc. Does not seem to deal with the November 2005, but does deal with all of the Splash and other possible “agents” and how much did she make off of those appearances or how much did she want to make appearances.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=553
I just ordered my book, can’t wait for it to come.Hope they sign it for me!!!!!!!!
ray (#56) & Lyndal (#57) I’ll swap grand baby pic’s, I’ve got some beautiful ones as well
Butterfly, it is like Lauren said all smoke and mirrors.
What does any of the BS they spew have to do with the merits of this frivolous lawsuit…nothing.
I have not seen one shred of evidence to convince me or anyone else of a conspiracy. It looks ludicrous just like they do.
I can not believe the direction they are taking this trying to make bloggers public figures, invading their privacy. It is so far fetch and retarded I don’t know where to go with this. So I ignore them because trying to reason or rationalize with them makes no sense, it is not about sense with them. They think because we talk about VA they can dig up our lives and publish it. It is all a bunch of bull, they know what they are doing and it is the most calculated game I have ever witnessed.
Patience is all I can tell you.
Lyndal (72) so true
Thanks Rose for the new filings today, they sure are a good read!
The Initial Disclosures list of people–has the plaintiff’s name and discovery includes HER MEDIA FILES!
David Leigh of Splash.
Rose by David Leigh’s name added [don't remember seeing in previous] to the latest filings he will now have to say whether or not Virgie authorized him to make those deals such as the ones in the emails to CBS correct?
Daisy
I have no fear of gutless bloggers barking on the Internet, I have a problem with someone sending their wife to follow me to the nail salon and threaten me about something I type on here. I am SICK OF IT!
Rose your Attorney is spot on. With all of McCabe’s new filing he’s is acting as though the April 18th hearing never occurred. I don’t understand how he can file the same suit in multiple courts if the judge has yet to even ruled on whether or not this case will pursue.