If someone knowingly gives false testimony in a Texas State District Court, under oath and on the witness stand if that is committing perjury in a quasi-criminal hearing and if proven is that offense proceeding punishable?
I have now talked to four people either present or with a direct source in the courtroom on May 21, 2009 as “Gollum” a/k/a Sun68ray testified about matters that had to weigh heavy on the Judge’s decision as to Lyndal Harrington’s character before sentencing Harrington to a 4 night holiday weekend in jail, while “Gollum” I am sure was partying with family and friends.
Three of the four people I talked with had the same basic facts down but in different degrees of how it was said and if the Court used “Gollum’s” testimony in its decision to send Harrington to jail. Tell me what you think after reading this and what advice would you give lawyers in this fiasco of “My Preciousss”, or as I say “Gollum” a/k/a Sun68ray is wanting her 15 minutes of fame which might stretch out to be much longer and in Texas Jurisdiction than she first thought.
The only pleasant person towards Sun68ray, not wanting to comment on what others said about the testimony was WV. She was hedgy in her memory while Emmett Glenn was quick so say the judge did not quote any of “Gollum’s” testimony when deciding that Harrington could not be believed, her character references were lacking, and it was off to jail for Harrington.
Let me give you some background of other untruths (a/k/a lies) Sun68ray has freely admitted to telling lawyers in these multiple overlapping lawsuits and we will finish with her testimony on May 21 and how EASY it is to be proven all lies in her “own words”, you can’t get better than that folks.
Let me say that whether it is the short version or the full email for all of you to download and read or go through the screen shot pages IT IS NOT a private email but one sent to me on February 8, 2009 which she claimed was a post from her on “T” that same day, so no betrayal of personal and private emails are at stake in this tale of “My Preciousssssssss”.
After alleging, [I have that in “Gollum’s” own words via emails although I have to admit I doubted her allegations], she was being terrorized for over a year by WV, and when she called for help Don Clark nor nor anyone else at the law firm would save her from WV’s relentless threats of FBI investigations criminal charges, etc. etc.. She used her allegations, in my opinion, to reach out in December 2007 through Art Harris to Howard K. Stern’s lawyer Lin Wood. By her own account when Wood’s law firm invited her to share some of what she had and come for a visit, it was started with lies by her if she is to be believed. First lie she freely admitted to is that she received an email from Wood right before her trip to Atlanta to bring both of her computers with her to be image, per Sun67ray she told Wood, “Sorry I did not get the email before I left”. That would be FIB ONE. She loves to relate the five important hours this powerhouse law firm gave her in December 2007, the meeting Mrs. Mary K. Barth at the hotel, getting coffee together and being warned that Wood was a snob but not to be put off by that. She also liked to complain that they booked her into a 5 star hotel, but she had to call Wood’s personal assistant, B. Lyles over the morning she left to pay the bill on the firm’s credit card. We must all get together and send that firm the rules of how they should be treating their star witness when their firm has placed that witness in a 5 star hotel while she is flipping on WV and telling all about the FBI threats, personal threats, etc. the plans to take Howard K. Stern down with details and graphs, thousand of pages of chat transcripts the WHOLE blueprint rested in ‘My Preciousssss” hands. You all get the mental picture by now I am sure..
Sun68ray by her own account said she received TWO subpoenas to cover her butt, one for the Florida litigation and one for the New York litigation to image her computers to get “WV and the O’Quinn law firm caught red handed in their dirty deeds”. Sun68ray and her computer with the pages and pages of transcripts she printed our from her chat room reminded me of “Gollum” from Lord of The Rings as she would flip through her pages for hours on the phone reliving how important she was to Wood’s case. In her mind she was the woman that would save the day. I swear I could hear her saying “My Preciousssss” as she flipped through the pages for the next 14 months I tried to be a support system since all of her previous friends no longer trusted her, YOU THINK????
In January 2008 when Wood’s law firm sent what “Gollum” said were the “best” forensic examiners to her home to image her hard drives, being from Nashville Tennessee they were so good they had been involved in the Enron mess in Texas, she would elaborate on how it was done. There were two guys it took them five hours and they told her that the way Wood was doing it none of it would be admissible in any court. Now to “fib” number two, the forensic examiners showed up to image two computers, Burleson said, “Wood is wrong I have only one desk top computer for you to image, no matter what your contract or work order shows, there has to be a mistake”. FIB number TWO, she has told me she stashed her laptop at a computer shop/geek friend’s store/shop whatever before Wood’s forensic specialists could show up. Are we seeing a pattern already for “My Precioussssss”?
I am going to skip a large part here including by “Gollum’s” own admission several times to me she is a drunk dialer and at times would call 36 hours after no sleep and being on ANOTHER binge to ramble total nonsense to me, but like Lyndal Harrington I felt sorry for her and tried to be a “support system” since none of her previous friends trusted her… DUH red flag ignored on our part!
Let me share what happened on May 21, 2009 per people in the courtroom that listened to her testimony about the lack of character of not only Harrington but now all of us, and she has never met any of us; “the other side” was in a giant conspiracy with the implication our previous attorney had to know about it. WRONG, our previous attorney is very well thought of and a board certified appellate lawyer.
“Gollum’s” testimony of May 21 consisted of the following and I pray one day some lawyer orders the transcript of that hearing so we can all read her testimony. However here is how it went per eye witnesses in the court and how each part can be proven as NOT true, let’s count the fibs together with the February 8, 2009 email in hand.
1. Sun68ray allegedly per three people in the court room testified, per the eye witnesses in court, she was part of a conference call between Turner, Harrington and Bonnie Stern in October 2008 at which time the following “grand scam by the defendants”, [her words on Topix not my words], was hatched. Harrington would stage a robbery of her computer, I would set Neil McCabe up and Bonnie Stern would file bankruptcy. THIS plan was hatched in a conference call involving “Gollum”, Rose Turner, Harrington and Stern. .
From the time I got to know Harrington until we stopped talking in early November 2008 there was only ONE conference call involving Harrington, Bonnie Stern and me and that happened in the spring or early summer of 2008. Why does that stick out in my mind? Well how often do you introduce two co-defendants by telephone to only have each talk to you and not each other because of shyness, nerves whatever. That is what happened in that call, Bonnie Stern talked to me and Lyndal Harrington talked to me, neither talked to each other. THAT was it folks ONE conference call.
So that is FIB THREE [there were many more but this is for the sake of this article only]. Per Sun68ray’s own post on “T” and by subsequent email sending it to me, she NEVER was in any conference calls AT all with Bonnie Stern, it just did not happen, in fact in that email she states clearly she never talked to Stern EVER! However, she knew of Stern’s financial woes in April or May 2008 and that she was going to have to file bankruptcy by mid-December 2008, NOT from Stern, but from me, a friend sharing worries and concern with what I thought she was, another friend. Boy did I get that one wrong. So right off no conference call, no conspiracy that she had first hand knowledge of, no staging a robbery, no filing bankruptcy while I “played” Neil McCabe to set him up. Set him up for what I don’t think was in the testimony, per the eye witnesses in the court, but perhaps someone that was there can email me with what actually happened about that “setting up McCabe by me”. Also per Sun68ray’s own words she stopped talking to Harrington in September 2008 right after hurricane Ike, so it would have been impossible by her own account to be in a conference call with all of us to hatch this diabolical plan in October 2008. Many of us upon learning this have stepped forward to the Plaintiff’s counsel to state facts will not hold up this alleged testimony I am willing to bet emails and phone calls will bare that out.
2. I was the spear head, the Master mind, the one with the whip in hand, [that one is for our friends over at “T”] to force everyone else in this plan to do what they were suppose to do on MY time table. “Gollum” was aware of that fact because of that imaginary phone conference call she was part of in October. So October came and went and Harrington had yet to fake the robbery, November came and went and Harrington had yet to fake the robbery. Then December came upon us, per Sun68ray EVERYTHING all of the diabolical plans were evaporating. Roxanne was supposed to have called me and told me that Harrington hadn’t staged her robbery yet and that I went nuts and I told Harrington you do this in December or else. The or else has never been spelled out to me however I would love to know what that was. We now have Roxanne involved, only isn’t what Roxanne would tell me what Harrington said, that I then shared with “Gollum” be like quadruple hearsay by the time “My Preciousssssssss” testified in the 280th District Court in Harris County before the Honorable Tony Lindsay? In fact it was “My Preciousssssssss” Sun68ray who was afraid of being robbed at Christmas nothing about Harrington.
WRONG FIB FOUR! The only phone call I had with Harrington from our parting of ways about November 9 or 10, 2008 was a conference call between the defendants whom had the same lawyer and their lawyers following the December 11 hearing. I guess I was mentally telegraphy to Harrington to get in line, do that fake robbery or else.
3. The clincher on December 12, 2008, “Gollum” states she was on a conference call AGAIN, this time with Roxanne, Harrington and me about Harrington better stage that robbery or else….
WRONG FIB FIVE! The only conference call on December 12, 2008 was between Art Harris, Bonnie Stern, Harrington and me with OUR lawyers to decide options and next steps legally we would take following the hearing on December 11. I CAN PROMISE YOU THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT SHE WAS ON THE LINE NOR WAS ROXANNE FOR THAT CALL..
4. We then have that I had whipped, [that one is for our friends over at “T”], Harrington into shape and she called and finally reported that false robbery on December 18, 2008 after she staged it on December 12.
WRONG FIB SIX!!! Because Harrington and I were no longer close the ONLY time I heard about the robbery of Harrington was when I was emailed and asked to come into the chat channel in early January 2009. Harrington was there and the chat went like this. Me: “You were robbed?” Harrington: “Yes and they took almost every electronic piece of equipment in our home, including my computer which I was told to save with my life if I had to during Hurricane Ike”. Me: “When did this happen?” Harrington: “The afternoon of December 18”. Me: “We still had a lawyer at that time did you notify him?” Harrington: “Yes the very next day”. Me: “You need to get a head of this, do you have the police report?” Harrington: “I tried to get it today but for some reason to get the official one I have to go downtown”. Me: “You have to get that and send it to the Special Master, file it with the Court and send it to all of the lawyers, you know what McCabe is going to say happened”. Harrington: “I know, I will get the official one tomorrow but I am not worried there are pictures, insurance reports etc. I really am not worried”. Me: “But you know what they are going to say, get out a head of this, get the documents you need and let everyone know”. Harrington: “I am, but I am not worried about it, I am really not even part of this anymore”.
That is not exactly the words verbatim, but you get the gist. I did not know until early January 2009. PERIOD, NO CONSPIRACY AND NO WHIPS, [that one is for our friends over at “T”].
For the record there will be one phone call on my bill to Lyndal Harrington after we parted ways that will be May 21, 2009 when I called and left a message asking if there was anything I could do to help, that call was never returned.
Also to set some other records straight I hear “My Preciousssssssss” testified to, per people in court that day. The chat connected to A True Rose runs a java script, no logs and the server is in California. The chat link to the site runs a java script, no logs to me, the server is in California as Sun68ray well knows that since she recommended the server. Our site that she allegedly said we put in Canada to keep it from being subpoenaed HOGWASH. Rose Speaks.com used to on a server in Florida, it is now on a server in New York and any and everything that “My Precioussssssssss” testified about on May 21, 2009 were all untrue per the three eyewitnesses present in court, every bit of it is untrue and she knew it when she said it. So if you commit perjury, in a civil suit, in a Court and on the witness stand that ends up with someone in jail because it is a quasi-criminal suit, is that punishable, say Labor Day weekend in the Harris County jail?
So what happened between February 8, 2009 and May 21, 2009 that changed “My Preciousssssssss’” memory? Here are my thoughts.
1. She was mad about her name being on the list and she did in fact call and talk to McCabe, or she told me she had and that he was right down rude to her and did not believe her when she wanted to know WHY was her name on that list. See the February 8 email to see why she “thought” she was on the list.
2. She was very upset that Wood took a sworn statement on February 9, 2009, and she began to say things, like “I (“My Preciousssssss”) was not as important as you are Rose. I never rated a sworn statement or a deposition”. Trust me she tried and tried and tried, calling me, lawyers anyone to get a subpoena to save Howard K. Stern from the real “evil doers” because she had their blueprint of ideas. What is ironic about that is she also has often stated to me her concern that Stern would sue her for threatening to get a gun and just go shoot him and be done with it.
3. I made a comment on the blog about having our computers imaged felt like being violated personally. You see on December 12, Harrington, Stern and I all volunteered to have our hard drives imaged we had nothing to hide. However “My Preciousssssssssss” had told me how she felt that she had been raped and would never go through that again. I was merely reflecting her thoughts and those shared in an email by Special Master Ball when the Order came out on January 27. However the scathing email I got from “Hamburger Joe” a/k/a “My Preciousssssss” was unbelievable in it contents. We stopped talking soon after Feb. 19, 2009. So imagine my surprise when she was once again with WV doing her bidding. ONLY WV says that is not true.
4. “My Prcioussssssssss”, wanted me on several occasions to get her hooked up with Larry Birkhead’s lawyers, you got it, she has the blueprints of how WV and company were going to destroy him, and she could and would HELP. Are we seeing the revolving door here???
Here is my open email of advice to all of the law firms in this case for when Sun68ray contacts you to offer you the silver bullet your client needs to save the day.
1. When she asks for a Subpoena PLEASE do it in the Texas State District Court so we all have jurisdiction over her for this case and any spin off cases that might occur.
2. State in the Subpoena you want the hard drive to her desktop, that pesky laptop she forgot before, the old hard drive she stashed for safe keeping and the external hard drive she has. BY ALL MEANS SUBPOENA AND GET a copy of “My Preciousssssssss’” thousands of pages of transcripts of apparently when she was spying on everyone on both sides for that “edge” she needed to plant herself squarely in the middle of this lawsuit, after all ask her, she will say I am betting, “I am coming forward now because it is just the right thing to do”… So get all of that stuff so we can all read it when it is filed as discovery.
3. Be aware she is a revolving door so stroke “My Precioussssssssssss” ego if you want her to be consistent, in fact think of appointing someone in your firm as a full time handler for her, she takes a LOT of time, to keep reassured, trust me I have the paranoid and demanding emails from her to me that shows that.
4. Remember she has the blueprint and thousand of pages of her chat transcripts that will save each of your clients. First she was WV’s right hand gun, to hear her tell it, (see email), second she got mad and went to Wood, third she felt that she had not received the attention from him she warranted so she is back with McCabe, and if I had a thousand bucks I would bet any day she will reach out to Birkhead’s lawyers. How many revolving doors is that for “My Preciousssssssssss”?
GET ALL OF HER HARD DRIVES she has stated to me about having, many of us might need what is on those for a couple of good ole Texas spin off lawsuits, after all she loved to tell me how rich and OLD her mom is… that alone is a big ewwwwwwwwwwwwww.
There are three more screen shots, one about “she owns her on words” and Rose and Lyndal are GREAT Friends. That she is willing to HELP anyone that has ever been through what she has because of WV. WARNING “My Precioussssssssss” bites. The last is the best, she says WV was part of the Halloween Prank and knew it all along, something WV denies to this day.
Now if you were there and have more to add to this tale of “My Preciousssssssss” please let us know. There might be enough for part two of this tale of deception so who is going to ever believe her again, not to mention she can bite you during one of her drunk dialing binges of even if she just feels “slighted” by an of the parties and/or counsel in these cases. I have said over and over once some lawyer needs the transcripts and obtains them from the May 21, 2009 hearing and the testimony of “Gollum”; if my sources were wrong and she did not testify to what they said she did, I will apologize on the front of the blog page in HUGE letters.
I would like to close by apologizing to all members and visitors to Rose Speaks.com who might have chatted in the link we allowed her to connect to this site until she disconnected it in September 2008, we had no idea she would once again flip and pay out like a slot machine in Las Vegas to anyone who will listen to her even if she has sliced them apart before.
UPDATE, Sun68ray is threatening to sue and has DEMANDED I take this allegedly, by her at least to take an article down, I am including those emails as well as “Gollum’s” post from last night on “T”, as I continue to say, it is all best in “her own words”,notice the reference to the “grand scam by the defendants”.
—– Original Message —–
Cc: McC ; WV ; Sun68ray
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:09 AM
Subject: Immediate Attention
It has recently come to my attention that your Internet web site at http://www.Rosespeaks.com has published at least one false and defamatory article about myself (changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”) and my family. The article is replete with false statements that would tend to harm (changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”) reputation in the community and future jobs. As such, you are directly liable for the libelous statements contained in the article.
A review of the article reveals that the false statements about (changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”) and her family were made with knowledge of their falsity or with a reckless disregard for the truth. In fact, at least one part of the article, statements that (changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”) has engaged in criminal conduct due to her testimony. These accusations are false and amount to libel per se. Thus, (changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”) is entitled to recovery without proving any special damages sustained from the defamatory statements.
Moreover, given the article complete lack of truth, it is only reasonable to conclude that the false statements were made with a specific intent to injure (changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”) and her reputation. Accordingly, in addition to actual damages, you will be liable for punitive damages.
Immediately remove the article from your Internet web site and refrain from publishing any further false statements or information about (changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”) or her family members. If I have not received by the close of business on August 28, 2009 your confirmation that the article has, in fact, been removed from the web site, I will take appropriate legal action to protect my rights.
(changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”)
August 22, 2009
In a message dated 8/22/2009 12:23:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, cajunrose writes:
(changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”)
Have you retained the O’Quinn Law Firm to handle this matter for you.
—– Original Message —–
Cc: McC ; WV; Sun68ray
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Immediate Attention
Ms. Turner ,
No, I have not retained nor sought advice from anyone from the O’Quinn Law Firm.
You, ( Rose Turner ) are a defendant and I, (changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”) am a witness in the Texas Case, so therefore, that is the reason for the ‘CC’ to the plaintiff’s attorney. Note about this part of the email: Notice it was not sent to Howard K. Stern’s attorneys even though she is saying she is a witness in a federal court, that would make her Lin Wood’s witness I believe.
I am also a non-party witness in a Federal Court under a protected order, with a letter to the courts about my privacy.
I have sought the advisement of the Courts, local and out of state authorities, and Internet Service Providers in reference to the removing of the article. Note about this part of the email: Yeppers I heard she called the Texas state District court just like she called the New York Federal Court and I believe even the South Florida federal Court.
I, would kindly appreciate your corporation in this matter.
(changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”)
—– Original Message —–
Cc: McC ; WV ; Sun68ray
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Immediate Attention
(changed to Sun68ray for her “privacy reasons”)
Let’s get this straight I am a “cooperating and collaborating defendant”, you are a “witness” who went to Houston and testified about some “grand scam by the defendants”, per your own words on Topix that you held the “truth about”, thus putting Lyndal Harrington in jail when you had not talked to her in almost a year and had not talked to me in 5 months…. Note on email from Rose: The “cooperating and collaborating defendant” comes from the filings from numerous other co-defendants about me. I prefer the May 8, 2009 transcript where my lawyer said, Rose is not in the Plaintiff’s fold, nor has she returned to the co-defendants fold, she is in her own fold. Folks if you don’t think that is a lonely road with where you have no friends in this lawsuit you are navigating the treacherous waters of this suit by yourself and totally alone, just ask me about how lonely this road I am on can be at times.
Ok let me get this straight in New York you are a witness for Lin Wood and Howard K. Stern to tie Wilma Vice into Rita Cosby and prove the Texas connection via your chat records of which you claim Wilma spilled her guts out to you. You have a protective Order because I helped you write a letter to the judge in New York in which you said it was Wilma and James Edstrom picking on you. Note on email from Rose: note she is NOT sending all of these copies to Howard K. Stern’s lawyers, but she is a “federal protective witness” to testify for HKS, against RC, with thousands of pages of transcripts to read in the court.
But in Texas you are a witness AGAINST Lin Wood and Howard K. Stern and for Virgie and her attorneys about the “grand scam by the defendants”… WOW
Do you see the same credibility problem I do here???
Now I have agreed because Wilma asked me to “change my article” now that they have what then needed from you… it was a win/win and you were punked… ain’t life grand…
BTW, WV and I are becoming quite the friends, once I stopped believing your B. S. and that you held the keys to all of her evil deeds and began to talk to her person to person sharing views on these cases and cooking we are finding we have a lot more then these cases in common, contrary to what you said she is a nice lady. Note on email from Rose: Don’t go nuts here, just because I get quotes to tell the other side of an article….
HOWEVER THE BEST IS THE LAST, AGAIN IN HER OWN WORDS YOU CAN’T GET BETTER THAN THAT FOLKS
Mob Squad wrote:
It is the ones that point the finger that are usually the ones not to trust and Rose loves pointing her finger. It is good you both got away from her.
by Sun68ray in her own words: I disagree with getting away from her. You can’t just walk away from her. I never posted on her site, never ask her to take me off from being a member, never fought with any members but as you can see anyone that walks away is crucify daily by her. I will never forget the day my computer had to be image and yes I felt my privacy was being invaded but it was Rose and Art, that were saying this was the right thing to do. If you have nothing to hide then have your computer image and that I did. I admit I was crying and doing what I could not to do it but also I knew I had nothing to hide. I got no copies of my hard drives or no privilege log.
It is so strange because the only reason that I ever contacted Rose in December of 07 was not to have my name or address out there and if any documents came out would she please black out my information and now she writes slanderous articles about me with no regard to the truth. The only way to explain it is like it is part of a cult. Can you ever truly just walk away or will it always be this way until someone does something?
I have her in my chat constantly telling others how much respect she has for me, how truthful I am. I am her hero ( gag me on that one) and on and on. But then I go forward on her and the defendants grand scam and then all of a sudden I am a liar, a drunk and a drug addict. The best way to explain it is, she uses her site as a weapon and goes after whoever she wants and does her best to discredit anyone that tells the truth. The more she writes, the more determine I become to expose her for the things she has done to so many but I will not do it on a forum or blog but in the courts so it is a permanent record on who she really is.
After 15 1/2 months of talking on the phone with Rose I deserve to be a drunk and a drug addict but I am not and so will handle this with a straight and stronger mind with the justice system. No one will ever convinced me this is Freedom of Speech what she is using her site to promote. I know what you are doing Rose and it is not working. Maybe a year ago when my fears were in over drive but I am so much of a stronger person when I would not answer your emails or phone calls any longer. You never wanted me to defend myself but it was ok for me to defend you. You say if you ever see me, you will puke on me, well I await for the day as I truly believe I will be doing the puking because never have I experience this sort of evil from a human being. note from Rose here: I begged her to defend herself but to also cut ties with a “friend” she had in Canada, that she said was spying on her for WV
May God have mercy on your evil soul.
Folks is it just me or could this be a threat of filing false reports in multiple places and with multiple agencies and courts, and really slanderous libel Per Se from Sun68ray directed at me?
August 9, 2009
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