All Things Michael Jackson – Latest Hearings and Lawsuits Updates
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L.A. Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor has been hearing multiple Motions in his Court during the last two weeks in Los Angeles including if the trial will still start on March 28, 2011. Judge Pastor has ordered the defense team for Dr. Murray Conrad’s to hand over all discovery due to the prosecution or face contempt charges with santions and a possible postponement of the trial. The defense attorneys for Dr. Murray, led by Houston attorney Edward M. Chernoff, have stated that Conrad cannot afford a prolonged delay in the trial. We will be checking to see if the hearings coming up before the start of the trial on March 28, will be televised and if so will be updating the scrolling calendar on the front page of the site.
Michael Jackson’s mother, Katherine Jackson, has one the right to go forward with her wrongful death in state court and has announced that she is dropping several accusations related to that suit. We will be putting up the docket and papers on that case throughout today and the rest of the week.
Joe Jackson is alleged to be putting money in a “theme park” in Viet Nam for his son, don’t even ask about that but we will try to verify that and let all of you know what if anything is going on with that “adventure”.
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Dr Murray was a supplier of a dangerous drug that had no business in a home setting,Dr Murray not only had knowledge of danger,he went a supplied the danger and help it along.He wants a speedy trial to prevent was is happening ,dicussions,and getting into the nitty grity.YOu coach Roxanne had knowledge,but did not contribute,Dr Murray was a SUPPLIER,AND THE MINUTE HE PUT UP THE FIRST IV in Michael’s arm or leg,he did a hell of a lot more than have knowledge.
PS SCRATCH NURSES, i meant just nurses aids
Bev, you are preaching to the choir about murray and his lack of professional care of his patient. No matter what you feel, it does not matter about the charges. We keep posting the reasons why they can’t charge murray with 1st or 2nd degree murder and you keep trying to validate those charges based on your opinion. CA is not going to listen to you and they can’t.
If you would like a jury of the peers used as in your example…. then for any prostitute that is charged, then prostitutes have to serve on the jury? For lawyer that is charged with a white collar crime, then lawyers have to serve as jurors? Or does this just pertain to the medical field? OK was being a wise ass with that.
There are people in the medical field that will be called as an expert witnesses that will state over and over that what murray did/did not do is so outside the standard acceptable care, that the jury will understand the fact that muray did not take his oath to heart while he was treating/administering drugs to Jackson.
I have not heard one medical person state that what murray did was ethical and morally right. Not one.
New papers up in South Carolina will have an article up later tonight or first thing the morning with my thoughts on why the secrecy here, can’t be lack of payment, could it be known crime or pending disbarment of Susan M. Brown???
http://www.rosespeaks.com/downloads/ANS/SC/3-2-11-Brown-Answer-First-Amended-Complaint.pdf
http://www.rosespeaks.com/downloads/ANS/SC/3-2-11-Counsel-Brown-Motion-Withdraw.pdf
http://www.rosespeaks.com/downloads/ANS/SC/3-2-11-Brwon-Motion-Seal-Memorandum-Withdraw-Counsel.pdf
Rose nice photo of Dr. Murray and the other guy singing the opera
…..was that Michael’s match maker
?
John
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/michael-jackson-death-judge-postpones-conrad-murray-trial.html
A judge Wednesday postponed opening statements in the trial of Michael Jackson’s doctor for a month to give both sides more time to share information with each other.
Hundreds of prospective jurors will report as scheduled to a downtown courthouse March 24 to fill out questionnaires regarding Dr. Conrad Murray’s case, but Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor said the final selection of panelists will not begin until May 4.
“Because of the nature and extent of discovery in this case, counsel wanted a little more time,” Pastor said after a 40-minute closed-door meeting with attorneys.
Murray, 57, is accused of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s 2009 death. He has pleaded not guilty.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/03/katherine-jackson-alejandra-jackson-jermaine-house-eviction-michael-jackson-encino-havenhurst/
Alejandra: MJ Executors Tried to Starve Me Out!
3/3/2011 11:00 AM PST by TMZ Staff
“Alejandra Jackson — the baby mama of multiple Jackson offspring and ex of two of Michael Jackson’s brothers — claims in new court papers the Executors of Michael’s Estate threatened to fumigate the Jackson family house while she was living there and remove all the food.
TMZ broke the story … Katherine Jackson is trying to evict Alejandra from the residence, but Alejandra won’t leave.
In her legal papers objecting to the eviction, Alejandra claims the Executors of MJ’s estate are trying “to advance ulterior and pompous interests, which are not consistent with the wishes and values of Michael Jackson.”
Alejandra claims Katherine doesn’t even want her evicted, but says she was “pressured by the Estate” to get her out.
Alejandra claims the Estate is trying to divide and separate the Jackson family.
Alejandra says the Executors threatened to fumigate the house on January 3, 2011 whether she and her kids were in the house or not.
Alejandra also alleges the Executors shut off the gas and began changing the locks while she and the kids were there. She says the Executors even had all the food in the house packed up.
Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman tells TMZ, Alejandra’s allegations are “preposterous.” “
That low life should just get the hell out of the house. Michael’s estate should not be supporting her lazy ass.
“The MJ Estate has the following known legal cases: http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/
- The Michael Jackson Estate on probate court:
- On March 15, 2011 the court will hold a hearing regarding the sale of a real property.
(this might be related to Alejandra Jackson’s removal from the Hayvenhurst property).
- Michael Jackson Estate vs. Melissa Johnson:
Johnson has been denied to use any of the MJ trademarks, while Howard Mann has been deposited on February 16, 2011.
- Michael Jackson Estate vs. Howard Mann
- John Landis vs. Michael Jackson: Landis sued MJ on unpaid royalty fees. The case will go on trial this October.
- Ola Ray vs. Michael Jackson: Similarly to Landis Ray is suing for unpaid royalty fees as well. The case will go on trial this November.
- Nederlander Presentation vs. Michael Jackson: Nederlander sued MJ due to a failed musical that the star agreed on. The case will go on trial this November.
- Seven Echols vs. Michael Jackson Estate: Echol claims that he hasn’t been paid for his services rendered to MJ. The case will go on trial this June.
- First Commemorative Mint Inc. vs. Triumph International Inc.
- AllGood Entertainment vs. Michael Jackson: AGE filed for an appeal on September 17, 2010, but they missed a deadline to file the required papers until January 28, 2011. If they won’t send the papers until March 8, 2011 the case will be dismissed. AGE sued MJ due to a failed concert that neither MJ or any of his representatives agreed to.
- Jose Freddie Vallejos vs. Michael Jackson Estate: The MJ Estate has been sued along with the city of Los Angeles due to the high costs of MJ’s funeral in the summer of 2009. Some of the parties might be dismissed this March.
- Richard Lapointe vs. Julien Entertainment: The MJ Estate is a defendant in the case. Lapointe is suing them for a failed auction where he bought some MJ related merchandises. The case will go on trial this March.
- Bravado International Group Merchandising: The company that bought the licenses to sell MJ related merchandises still have plenty of ongoing cases due to copyright infrigment on the MJ trademarks.
- MJ Publishing Trust: MJP is taking part in plenty of suits along with BMI due to copyright infrigments on MJ’s music.
- Citadel Ltd. vs. Frank DiLeo: DiLeo has been sued over a failed MJ concert in Tobago. Neither any of the defendants answered the case so the Judge ruled a default entry against DiLeo and his partners. It means that they will have to pay at least $300.000 to this company. MJ has nothing to do with this case. “
Very interesting article! A full page of it!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/morris-w-okelly/alejandra-jackson-full-momtie_b_826787.html
Posted: February 22, 2011
Alejandra Jackson Goes Full ‘Momtie’
“Not only did she produce four children while marrying NEITHER brother, she managed to hijack the Jackson family name and permanent free residence at the family estate.
And just in case Katherine or anyone else had the crazy idea to call her ungrateful, she’s now going to flip her “misfortune” into a TV deal.
This is unprecedented in the history of depravity and women devoid of self-respect.
She makes Octomom look like a soccer mom in comparison.
Somebody, somewhere, somehow needs to put the Groupie Hall of Fame together, and Mo’Kelly wants the whole nine when it’s completed: the bronze bust, the induction speech and the accompanying highlight reel.
Alejandra “Jackson” has earned her spot as its most “celebrated” member.
Nobody else even comes close.”
Hello everyone – It’s been awhile since I’ve checked in – everything is fine, nothing to worry about. It was necessary for me to step away after have followed ANS/HKS for 4 years, I needed a rest. Since the final hearing on Howard, I’ve joined Twitter as “Love my Max” (Sammy1 was taken). For the past several weeks I’ve been following the uprisings in Egypt and Libya. the Wisconsin protesters and of course Keith. AlJazeera ( http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ ) has provided some of
the greatest videos and coverage of Egypt of all other channels combined. Anderson Cooper 360 is doing a good job covering Libya. Gaddafi and sons are very bad men to say the least.
It’s 2:00am and time to turn in.
Good night to all – I’ll check back in a few days.
new article up
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/DA-Moving-Forward-With-Appeal-of-Judges-Decision-in-Anna-Nicole-Smith-Trial–117444173.html
D.A. to Appeal Judge’s Decision in Anna Nicole Smith Trial
Updated 6:38 PM PST, Fri, Mar 4, 2011
“Prosecutors gave notice Friday that they are moving forward with their appeal of a judge’s decision to throw out nearly all of the charges on which Anna Nicole Smith’s longtime companion and a psychiatrist were convicted last year.
In papers filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, Deputy District Attorney Irene Wakabayashi wrote that the prosecution is taking its case to California’s 2nd District Court of Appeal.
The filing comes almost two months after Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert J. Perry tossed out the only two charges on which Howard K. Stern was convicted and three of the four charges on which Smith’s former next-door neighbor, Dr. Khristine Eroshevich, was found guilty.
Perry reduced the final charge against Eroshevich — unlawfully obtaining a prescription by giving a false name — to a misdemeanor and sentenced her to one year on probation and a $100 fine.
Stern and Eroshevich were convicted last Oct. 28 of conspiring to provide prescription drugs to the reality television star and one-time Playboy Playmate, but the judge cited insufficient evidence in his Jan. 6 ruling.
As he did throughout the lengthy trial, the judge criticized prosecutors, saying the verdicts, in which the most serious charges were rejected by the jury, were “a stunning repudiation of the prosecution.”
Perry said that while doctors who doubled as “pill pushers” were an ongoing societal problem, “this case did not involve such doctors.”
He also said the trial revealed a “misunderstanding” of conspiracy law on the part of the prosecutors. In granting the defense’s motion for a new trial on the conspiracy counts against Stern, the judge said the evidence was both “lacking and insufficient.”
Hours after the ruling, District Attorney Steve Cooley said his office would “pursue all appellate remedies to overturn Judge Perry’s decision.”
Stern and Eroshevich were convicted after jurors spent 13 days considering the case against them.
Stern — who was also Smith’s attorney — was acquitted of seven other charges, including unlawfully prescribing a controlled substance.
Jurors deadlocked on two counts against Eroshevich, a psychiatrist who lived next door to Smith in Studio City.
A third doctor, Sandeep Kapoor, was acquitted of all six charges against him.
The three defendants were not charged with Smith’s Feb. 8, 2007, accidental drug overdose death in Florida at age 39.”
Beth apparently someone does not care about how much money is spent on this bullchit. And it clearly shows a vendetta against Stern. If it gets to the supreme court, it will get tossed. Maybe if the DA had to pay for this out of his pocket, then it would stop. All this money for 2 conspiracy charges to be heard again and Dr Kris for unlawfully obtaining a prescription by giving a false name. Maybe JB can explain why CA doesn’t go after drug dealers as hard as his state is going after these two.
No Bev, that is NOT the reason for the involuntary manslaughter charges against murray. It does not make any SENSE that murray would have deliberately murdered his cash cow. There was NO intent, there was NO malice. And believe me when I say this, I am one that would have preferred IF murder charges could have been filed against murray.
We knew that the DA might file for an appeal and they have. Probably at someone’s insistance. But Judge Perry has a pretty damn good record for his rulings. I doubt that it will fly.
DIAMONDGIRL—That is my opinion,and you have yours,You and no one else can change what I believe.I respect what you feel,and do not care to change your mind,I am putting down what I feel.
PS La Toya Jackson was on Joy Behar show,and believes Michael was murdered and also said a lot will come out at the trial,EVERYONE has a belief,and the trial will tell all.
LaToya was also on the Today show and it seems that she is writing a book about Jackson family. She has always stated that she believes MJ was murdered. Homicide is death at the hands of another.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhdfp4_nbc-today-show-la-toya-jackson-on-dealing-with-the-donald_news
Thank You Diamondgirl,La Toya is my kind of woman,she has her opinion,and as with La Toya,something is not adding up and until I heard the true facts,it will not change for me.I could be all wet,but I cannot say Dr Murray made a “oops”,He went into the water with both feet,knowing danger existed,and doing nothing about it,It will be interesting to find out WHY they did not have equiment in place.
We will agree to disagree….
Latoya changes her tune to whatever suits her mood at any given time. When MJ was accused of child molestion, Latoya gave an interview stating that she believed the charges, then she back peddled and accused her then husband of forcing her to do that. Now with the book (?) she is asking for trouble with the estate lawyers but she has always stated that she believed MJ was murdered.
How do you know which statements will be true? The ones that follow your opinion? Nothing is going to change what murray is charged with. He jumped in with his entire body with dosing MJ with propofol. He lied to the pharmacy, he used his women, he lied to LE, he tried to hide evidence, he didn’t perform CPR correctly, he left his patient unattended, he mixed medications which compromised MJ’s breathing, he lied to the EMT’s, he lied to the ER doctors and he didn’t have the proper equipment in place for the use of propofol. Let alone using the propofol outside of a hospital setting, which is not recommended but does not break the law. I could go on but you get the picture.
Well it’s no surprise that the DA went through on their promise to appeal Perry’s decision, just wonder why it took them two months to do it. Isn’t it standard procedure for the DA’s office to file an Appeal when they lose their case/cases? IMO… I don’t think they’re gonna get much of anything out of their Appeal.
Sorry Bev I agree with DG #18
IMO the decisions made by the Judge in the Stern case has nothing to do with what the CA DA wants in the Murray case.
JMA—–It is your right to agree with whom you like.I just stated my opinion.I may be wrong,I may be right,I will find out durning the trial.and weathEr everyone in the world feels Involuntary Manslaughter is correct,I DO NOT.
You seem to miss the point that the DA cannot prove malice or intent. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR MURRAY TO WANT JACKSON DEAD.
Diamondgirl—-What does not make sense to me ,is how a MD specializing in Cardiology,claiming to care about Michael,could go ahead,order Propofol,give the med to Michael KNOWING at anytime Michael could have a reaction and NOT HAVE ANY SAFEGUARDS Dr Murray was a yes man,and to keep Michael Happy,he did what was asked IN MY MIND,if you do nothing to prevent a death,when you have knowledge that what you are doing can cause a death.you murdered that pt.Involuntary is when you have no control over the pt dying,.Dr Conrad had control.that IV should have never been in Michael’s leg or arm,and Murray should have NEVER LEFT THE ROOM.That statement he did not mean that Michael would die,holds no water with me,I would love to know where in hell was his concern for his pt KNOWING propofol was dangerous,KNOWING it was not for sleeping and home use,KNOWING,HE DID NOT HAVE EQUIPMENT,KNOWING HE DID NOT HAVE PROPER KNOWLEDGE OF MONITORING and administering propofol,with all this KNOWING,Dr Murray gave the med night after night.
Also,if I can remember right,the nurse Michael did ask for the propofol refused,and warned Michael it was dangerous.That nurse did her profession proud.I am tired of excuses being made in Dr Murray favor,and with all that is in me I hope the Jackson Family fights hard in court,because I BELIEVE he took Michael’s life,not by a “OOPS”i DIDN’T MEAN TO,but by ,I HAD FULL KNOWLEDGE of what I was doing was unethical,dangerous.and Michael COULD HAVE died at anytime under my care,but I went ahead to please Michael,I did not concern myself with the danger of what I was doing I threw caution to the wind,threw out all my professioal ethics,so I could get the big bucks.A doctor,who had the right to do what Murray did for Michael,would NOT have to try a set up a albi,by calling his girlfriend,why in hell would he need to call a girlfriend for no reason durning the middle of a dangerous procedure,because Michael was already DEAD.So if you are saying by trying to please Michael,it shows he did not have malice or intent,I disagree,he was pleasing Michael” to get the big bucks,and showed NO CONCERN for Michael as his pt and a human being.and HIS dangerous actions ,LED TO A DEAD. “FULL KNOWLEDGE” he was out of line doing and giving Michael a dangerous med
Again, you are preaching to the choir. And I certainly resent being accussed of making excuses for murray. Now whether you or I like it or not, the LAW is real clear about the charges that can be levied. The DA is following the law.
Just because YOU feel that everything that murray did or did not do constitutes a murder1 or 2 charge against murray, doesn’t mean that it is legal. The DA CANNOT proved BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT murder. IMO, he can prove involuntary murder. I have no choice as to accept that the most jail time that murray can get is 4 years if found guilty.
Who the hell said he was trying to please MJ and following MJ’s instructions? I have repeatly stated that murray has no morals or ethics. He should have refused to do this job. And murray was on the phone with more than just one girlfriend. He was on 2 cell phones, talking and texting. He chatted with 2 girlfriends not just one and with others.
DIAMONDGIRL–You and I will never come to the meeting of the minds.so I will leave it and let the trial decide
Here is the link to the classifications of the charges of murder, voluntary murder and involuntary murder. You tell me which one applies to Michael’s death.
http://www.shouselaw.com/murder.html#4.3
MALICE—-AFORTHOUGHT————Malice may be expressed or implyed—–Malice is implyed when the natural consequences of the act are dangerous to human life the act was deliberately performed with KNOWLEDGE of the danger to ,and with disreguard for human life.Malice is implyed when the killing resulted in a intentional act”.KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY WORD”Dr Murray had knowledge “propofol was not a sleep med and never to be used in a home setting,with out proper assistance and medical equipment.Dr Murray also knew,he was not trained in dealing with such a dangerous drug .There was NO HELP for Michael,with ANY MEDICAL EQUIPMENT
Forget it Bev, you refuse to understand the law. The jury cannot come back and ask for murder in the first or second degree. They can only find murray guilty of involuntary manslaughter or not guilty. The Jackson family cannot fight hard in court for anything, all they can do is pray, sit, testify if called and listen. I have no idea where you believe that they can demand anything in court.
It does not and would not have made any sense to a jury that murray intended to kill Jackson when the man was suppose to receive $150,000 a month as a salary PLUS $50,000 a month in expenses. And again, as much as I would love to have seen murray charged with murder and get life in prison, I could not even find him guilty of 1st degree based on the LAW.
Malice aforethought is the the *deliberate intent* to cause death or great bodily harm to another person before a person commits the crime. Malice aforethought is an element that *must be proved in the crime of first degree murder*. This description of the perpetrator’s state of mind basically means that he or she had an *intent to inflict injury without legal justification or excuse* (legal justification included such defenses as self-defense, while excuse includes mental illness and duress).
Malice aforethought is comprised of any one of the following three elements:
(1) an intent to kill;
(2) an intent to inflict grievous bodily injury; or
(3) an intent to act in a manner that creates a plain and strong likelihood that death or grievous harm will follow. Of these three prongs of malice, the first two prongs require a specific intent on the part of the defendant, measured subjectively, while the third prong only requires a general intent, measured both subjectively and objectively. Accordingly, malice aforethought may exist without an actual intent to kill or do grievous bodily harm, if there is proof of the “third prong” of malice. This simply means that the perpetrator knew of circumstances that a reasonably prudent person would have known created a plain and strong likelihood of death or grievous bodily harm resulting from the perpetrator’s act. The law can infer malice from circumstantial evidence, such as from the intentional use of a deadly weapon.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/m/malice-aforethought/
This is not addressed to anyone in particular.
Personally I am getting sick and tired of the laws being bent to suit one person or another. It is a damn shame that this country needs so many jails to harbor those who should be serving time.
Lindsey L. will not agree to any plea which has jail time in in. Well you dumb bitch, you tried to steal a 2500.00 piece of jewelry, you broke probation, you changed what the judge ordered for you to do in community services to suit your own needs and now you are not going to serve any jail time by your demands? If I were the judge, you azz would be picked up and tossed into the jail for probation violation. Then during this time a hearing would proceed based on grand theft larceny. This world does not revolve around your azz.
It really amazes me how people see things.
RE: L. Lohan
http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/07/lindsay-lohan-surveillance-tape-video-sold-jewelry-store-jewelry-felony-grand-theft-kamofie-and-co-necklace-plea-bargain/
“Lindsay on Surveillance Tape — I Told Ya So!
3/7/2011 12:55 AM PST by TMZ Staff
“Sources close to Lindsay Lohan tell TMZ she thinks the fact Kamofie & Co. sold the surveillance video of her proves what she’s been saying all along …
they are just using her to make a quick buck.
As we previously reported, the jewelry store worked with a broker to peddle the tape — despite the fact lawyers for the prosecution asked them not to, fearing it would ruin their case.
Now the tape is out there … and sources close to Lindsay tell us she feels vindicated. Lindsay insists it proves Kamofie & Co. are trying to capitalize on the situation and are motivated entirely by money.
Lindsay hopes the store’s actions will sway public opinion — and the prosecution — to see things her way.”
I don’t know all about the laws but it seems up in Eagle River,I think it was Alaska two soldiers were drinking and playing Russian roulette the one soldier put the gun to his stomach and it was said accidentally pulled the trigger.He died on the way to the hospital and the other soldier was charged with 2nd degree murder because he supplied the gun.Doesn’t sound right to me and sure don’t know how it will turn out but there ya have it .drinking and guns don’t mix and someone shoots himself and they call it murder??????
Was in and ADN news article
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/soldier-murdered-while-playing-russian-roulette-in-alaska-030711
Brouch was charged with murder for “knowingly” providing the weapon that resulted in the death of his friend.
Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable “heat of passion” or 2) a killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender’s obvious lack of concern for human life. Second-degree murder may best be viewed as the middle ground between first-degree murder and voluntary manslaughter.
I don’t know what the difference is. Maybe this is where it does good that murray is a doctor and the drug should not have killed Jackson.
Diamondgirl Your last sentence confuses me”Maybe this is where it does good that Murray is a doctor and the drug should not have killed Michael”You got to be kidding,I think it is one miracle,Michael did not die sooner.No the drug would not have killed Michael,given under proper supervision,and using the right equipment and then I am not sure,with Michael’s respiratory problems,Michael was skating on thin ice. And it is because Dr Conrad Murray is a MD,HE KNEW BETTER.
Bev, murray should have known better but he didn’t. Did murray know that when he gave Michael a combination of those drugs that he would compromise Michael’s respriatory system? I don’t know that he did. IT does not excuse his actions or lack of. It doesn’t explain why there was so much propofol found i his system either. Do we know if the oxygen tank that was in the room had oxygen in it or was there even a tank in the room? We know of no monitors in place, no IV pump either.
I really believe that when murray gave Michael all those drugs prior to the propofol, the respiratory system was so compromise that when the propofol was given, Michael didn’t stand a chance. Murray prolly gave the propofol and when he saw Michael go to sleep, left the room. Michael more than likely started experiencing trouble breathing right after murray left the room and died. Was this murrays fault? YES.
What I meant by the last sentence was that since murray is a doctor, he had a right to give medications to his patient. (this does not include where or under what conditions) he was able to get any medication also. I don’t know if it could be considered handing Michael a loaded gun like with these soliders. Even a trained anethesologist knows the drugs he uses drugs are deadly even when using them at a surgical center but he takes precautions also. AND it does good for murray not Michael. Because it the drug can’t be considered a “loaded gun” he can’t be charged like this solider was charged. understand what I meant now?
Diamondgirl—-I am beginning to wonder if La Toya Is not correct,Your right,to much propofol ordered,Now if AEG was paying this bill,then that is what La Toya meant by Dr Murray being the fall guy,even though Dr Murray should have done the ethical thing,and walked away.he did not.why did they not pay for the right equipment?,He did not hand Michael a loaded gun,Dr Murray was the loaded gun.Michael had NO WAY of getting propofol except through “his friend”It appears to me the “loaded gun was AEG and Dr Murray,and Isure as hell would like a answer from the pharmacy,,Michael had nothing in his stomach for food,It is like taking alcohol on a empty stomach,to get drunk faster,same with drugs,that was a lot of drugs for someone with no food in him.I am sure going to record this trial,as I am always willing to learn,
Bev, we don’t know if the equipment was to be in place while in England, the US even though murray knew it was necessary equipment while administering propofol no matter where the drug was given. As far as I know, the contract was never signed by AEG. I don’t know if AEG would have gotten paid for all the money they put out prior to the concert going to England by any insurance company. I understand that Michael passed one physical but was suppose to have another when he arrived in England. I do not know if this is true or not.
Diamond was thinking could they have taken this drug and parafanalia to England and used it there…????
If AEG paid for the Doctor then do they have part of the blame for Michaels death?
Thanks DG I just now got the link and he was charged.
Thats why I don’t understand why AZ is allowing people to carry concealed into bars.Drinking and guns do not go together.
Heath—-The blame I can see,is not paying for equipment needed to safeguard Michael’s life.The buck stops with Dr Murray,who should have refused to give Michael Propofol,equipment and assistance not there NO PROPOFOL.This was not done one time.The more I think about it the more upset I am getting,A wonderful and talented human being died,because ,who cared for Michael the human being NOT THE MONEY MAKER. I just do not understand,what is going on in todays world,I thought Howard would have been to smart and watch his law degree and would never do a stupid thing like he did,and now,I cannot understand Dr Murray,who knew better,and yet took such a change with a pt’s life every night he gave Michael the propofol.I also have blame for whoever passed Michael on his physcial,Nothing is making any sense to me.What right did any Dr have in using propofol as a sleep med,not once but every night,I am not understanding INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER,what in God’s name would any DR think would eventuality happen.Was this how Michael was to do 50 concerts,Drugged at night,there would be no way Michael should have passed that physcial, NO WAY
I think we keep forgetting one part of this whole thing. MJ, when he wanted something, he got it, one way or another. He wasn’t a stupid man and he knew what he wanted and such. How do we know for sure that MJ didn’t ask for this med specifically?
No Bev the buck doesn’t stop at Dr Murray, he was an employee. Paid $150,000 per month.
Was he responsible for paying for equipment and drugs and any extra help he needed from this amount or was AEG?
Dr Murray was an employee of AEG not Michael Jackson.
Ken I think if this was such an open secret then the whole thing was based on supplying Michael with drugs and supplying a Doctor.
I am wanting to know the whole picture. Also how did he pass the first medical to get the Insurance?
KEN——What bothers me ,are two words(intergrity,ethics) and a oath taken to preserve life,A feeling you get when you know you did something to preserve the life,that might not be here but for your skill and knowledge.As with the Amighty,you are given free will,YOU CHOOSE,which path you will go down.Michael’s one time Nurse choose (intergrity and ethics) NO MICHAEL.this drug you want is dangerous,like I said in the above comment,to be drugged everynight with a dangerous drug,because you are already addicted to it,does not in my eyes enable you to pass a physcial.It makes me ill to think Dr Murray cared so little for his “friend”that he did not say NO Michael.Dr Murray knew the danger of what he was doing,and did it anyway.MICHAEL WAS THE PT.NOT THE DOCTOR.That was the problem I had with DR E.The CH,you can bet Anna asked for that med because it was something MM took.
Heath, I can probably tell you the answer to that last question. Someone was probably paid off to give him a clean bill of health on that.
HEATH——-Then it was up to Dr Murray to NO LONGER BE A EMPLOYEE,FREE WILL, and how much did his medical degree mean to him.He SOLD his Medical license for $150,000.00.i do not care who payed Dr Murray,employee or not,
comes first,not the PT’s welfare
OK, we have gotten several stories about the propofol. Michael did request this drug because it worked for him. During his last concert series and during any medical/dental procedures he had. apparently this was used. Without going again into the debate of sleep vs being knocked out, MJ knew that when he was given this drug, it was lights out. No thoughts, no tossing and turning, nothing but unconsciousness. That may have been his defination of sleep, I don’t know. After watching “This Is It” many times on the Encore/Stars channels, I still see MJ being involved in every aspect of his upcoming concert series. In his quest for perfection, imo, his mind never slept but continued to think of ways to improve his last concert. And it would have been something else to see.
I do not believe that someone was paid off for Michael to pass the physical at all. At the time of his death. he was in fairly good health. No heart problems but some respiratory problems were noticed during autopsy. Don’t forget, Jackson was to have another physical when he arrived in England.
murray (as per murrays statement) was giving MJ propofol 6 nights a week. I have tried to figure out how much of the 4 gallons of propofol that had been ordered was left at the time of his death. Seems to me that there should have been a whole lot still around.
As far as the 50 concerts series went, MJ was to do 2-3 concerts a week. He was not touring, this was all in one hall. He was supposely being given propofol at night and then ephedrine during the day.
AEG is being sued by Katherine Jackson for the benefit of MJ’s children and herself.
Diamondgirl——–When you think Michael was a man of 50 years,with medical problems and trying to stay slim for his dance routines,and needed Propofol,and ephedrine,every night and day,you know something had to give,It boggles my mind to think, a Cardiologist,would lend himself to such a venture,knowing there could be but one outcome.To face facts,this was not a routine Michael could ever walk away from,every night and day,Lord Michael was a human being,not a machine,No ethical Dr would ever,do what Dr Murray was doing.IF Michael ever made it through his concerts,you would have a raging addict,who could NO LONGER sleep on his own,but who cared,there was money to be made
murray was thinking of the jam he got his ass in. He owed child support to various women, he had another one pregnant and due to give birth, he was being sued for unpaid bills and he was playing with fire. He left his clinic in Texas to receive $150,000 a month plus $50,000 in benefits a month. His latest woman and child were to travel with him to England, while his wife took care of the Las Vegas office.
I have no respect for him or the woman who became involved with this deadbeat father. The only person he cares about is himself. He makes me ill when he states that he loves Katherine Jackson like his own mother.
new article up. updates will be put on there as soon as we get them.