Rose speaks – Celebrity and High Profile Trials

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Deputy District Attorneys:
Deborah Brazil
David Walgren

Defense lawyers
J. Michael Flannigan
Joseph Low
Edward Chernoff

#21 Christopher Rogers LA Co coroner Chief forensic medicine.
##22 Dr. Richard Lewis Ruffalo Clinical Anesthesiologist

Christopher Rogers

LA Co coroner. position. Chief forensic medicine. Supervise doctors who work at coroner’s office, and occasionally do autopsies himself.

Manner of death?

Homicide

Homicide based on what?

It was based primarily based on the info we had on the medical care MJ receded. The care was substandard.

Cross by Flanagan.

Now tell me, how do drugs get in to the heart blood?

Well, in this setting, propofol has to be administered intravenously, and so that blood circulates throughout the body.
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So, an injection? Yes. Iv? Yes. Orally Yes.

But in the event that propofol were taken orally, that’s one way it could appear in the stomach? Yes, that’s a way it could appear in the stomach.

And if this is the hypothetical, of ingestion of propofol by the decedent, and ingestion of lydocaine, by the decedent, this would not be a homicide?

I would think it would still be a homicide. Based on the quality y of the medical of care, I would still consider it a homicide even if the Dr. did not give the propofol…

REDIRECT

Let’s assume that Dr. left him alone with the patient and the patient self administered, (snip; I don’t get the full hypothetical) you would still (rule it a homicide based on the standard of care.)

Yes.

Recross Flanagan

So, even if Dr. Murray gave more than 25 mg between 1040 and 10:50 we still have the same result that MJ would be awake at 11 o’clock?

Yes, assuming there was a single dose.

And that he would also be dead by 11 o’clock? ???

Richard Lewis Ruffalo

Anesthesiologist.

And what’s a clinical pharmacologist? That’s someone who studies drugs and how they are used.

So, he thinks the numbers of the benzodiazapams from the heart blood, he thinks reflect an injection/ingestion of a HIGHER dose than what Dr. Murray states he gave.

To read the rest of the first part of day five and for all of the detailed information as to what Sprocket heard and saw visit Trials and Tribulations.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2011/01/dr-conrad-murray-prelim-day-6-part-i.html.

Postscript added by Sprocket 5:54 p.m.

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Focusing on just those that you mentioned, who now become an extreme departure of care.

Yes.

So each individual, when you put them together, it becomes so egregious, that it becomes extreme. That any physician should know should be trained in the basics of life support.

Overall, identified several points of extreme deviation of care.

And addressed the one handed CPR on the bed. “Totally useless.”

One handed behind the back? It’s totally useless. You can’t get enough pressure to push down on the chest. We use that in neonatal. Describes what you should do with an adult in the bed. Describes how you get them out of the bed easily. Even if you claim you can’t move the person from the bed, the proper training would be to protect the head, slide the individual off the bed, and then be able to start chest compression.

Even if they are morbidly obese, you can generally do that…

Cross by Flannigan

45x what it is in the hospital blood. That doesn’t go with your theory.

Yes, I made a mistake.

Now if we have 45x whets in the stomach than what’s in the blood. then we have evidence of oral ingestion.

We may have to check with the coroner, to check with what the numbers mean. Now, it doesn’t make sense unless he ingested it orally.

So, we’re back to it being orally? Well, we’ll have to talk to the coroner.

It’s a big difference isn’t’ it?

I totally agree.

REDIRECT

Assuming self administration as Mr. F included, would any of your opinions change in your standard of care?

No. You don’t walk away from a patient. (explains in detail. Addicts, that is the first tip off, you don’t walk away, just like a heroin addict.)

The people rest their case.

No defense presented except a statement

Judge Pastor: Is the Attorney General present? (did JP ask that? I think they said they were!)

JP said he was ready to rule on that request (from the medical board).

This court has reviewed all the evidence the def motion to dismiss is denied. Appear 2 me of the evidence the offense has been committed, in order Dr Murray be held there for.

Ms. Saunders Medical board.

We’re appearing on behalf of director of the medical board, to provide justice and that as a condition of bail, that the defendant have restrictions on him as a condition of his bail not to be able to practice…

After trial, that this order to this defendant not practice and to show that an order of the safely to the public has been met.

Since the defendant held over, that there are restrictions on his license are in effect we further request that he be prevented from practicing here in California.

Judge Pastor: Increase the bail, court denies the request. Satisfied that the bail presently set, which is three times the presumptive bail (is sufficient (. Certainly recognize posture. court does have the ability to reconsider, I have done so and I am satisfied and shall remain.

This hearing has been a significant hearing as far as presentation and evidence and the rights of the defense to explore evidence presented and to underline the sufficiency of any case. The cross has been extensive probing and vigorous. There is no erroneous issue of a depravity issue.

So as I balance all of these factors under Eldridge and People vs. Ramirez, due process has been afforded Dr. Murray.

Circumstances have changed have changed dramatically, court finds extraordinary mandates to approving the request by the medical board.

So, he’s restricting the license or banning it all together. cites a case the overall consideration of the protection of the public, and I’m satisfied that non intervention at this time, does impose a danger to public safety.

In this case there is a direct nexus and connection between the actions of Dr. Murray, and a homicide. …and the fitness and competence to practice medicine.

In undertaking an issue of restrictions ct recognizes the standard of proof is not simple probable cause, the standard of proof the ct must utilize, there is clear and convincing proof that there is a certainly that sanctions are appropriate.

Immediately cease and desist from practicing in the state of California is now suspended by this court as a condition of bail.

They are to notify the appropriate authorities in other states within the next 24 hours.

Provide represite proof to this court, in the next 24 hours. to any and all licensing agencies where Dr. M holds a license.

Dr. Murray is not to practice in any other jurisdiction, in less he is so license.

Arraignment will be set two weeks from today. January 25th, at 8L30 A. M.

Nothing else?

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