Anna Nicole Smith and Daniel Smith

ALL OF THE POSTS RELATING TO THE MARK HATTEN ALLEGATIONS ARE BEING MOVED TO THIS NEW ARTICLE:

~ What are the laws for filing a false police report with intent to HARM the person they are accusing?
~ What are the laws for wrongly accusing someone who is the Plaintiff in a case against your sibling for leverage?
~ What are the laws for MAKING SURE this false report got in the MSM (Main Stream Media) right before any court dates in CA where the Defendant is also a Plaintiff against the malicious accuser’s sister?

Per Swims of TMZ some interesting questions and thoughts on Mark Hatten:

The Public needs to know quickly:

• Is nut case MH at it again, yes or no? If not -
• What is the extent of the involvement of JB’s Office?
• What is the extent of the LA Prosecutors’ involvement?
• What is the extent of VA and her people’s involvement?

An ongoing discussion based on the article on TMZ.com with the police report filed by Mark Hatten in S. C. and the statement given by Howard K. Stern’s lawyer Chris Smith to Radar online.com last night.

“I wish to put to rest the latest accusations by Mark Hatten,” attorney J. Christopher Smith told RadarOnline.com. “They are absolutely false. Mr. Stern has not in any way made any recent attempts to contact or threaten Mr. Hatten.”

“Mr. Stern does not even have a MySpace account,” Stern’s lawyer insisted. “The hope is that MySpace and the authorities at the Greeleyville Police Department will quickly conduct the appropriate investigation. At which point, they will most certainly conclude that there is absolutely no basis in fact to this ridiculous story.”

FILINGS IN TEXAS STATE SUIT OF VIRGIE ARTHUR VS. HOWARD K. STERN, LARRY BIRKHEAD, TMZ.COM, HARVEY LEVINE, ART HARRIS ET. AL.

May 21, 2010 Art Harris Response to Virgie Arthur Motion for Rehearing. NOTE FROM ROSE: OK I was wrong here, I thought that Harris would let this be ruled solely on the Court Abusing its Discretion violating Rule 171 on appointing a Special Master. This shows how we can all still learn. I did not know that an exhibit to a Motion was in fact a Motion. The Response for Request for Production to Arthur was things that attorneys send out to just the other parties. I did not know because a Protective Order was requested in a Response that once it was filed with a Motion to Compel that part then of itself becomes a Motion for Protective Order once filed as an exhibit to the Motion to Compel. I continue to learn from all of these filings. Looks like the First Court of Appeals got it right the first time around.

May 21, 2010 Howard K. Stern Reply in Support of his Motion to Quash Deposition and for a Protective Order.

May 21, 2010 Stern’s Exhibit A filed with Reply in Support of his Motion to Quash Deposition and for a Protective Order.

May 21, 2010 Howard K. Stern Motion to Clarify or Set Aside the Rule 11 Agreement with Virgie Arthur.

May 21, 2010 Stern Exhibit A filed with the Motion to Clarify or Set Aside the Rule 11 Agreement with Virgie Arthur.

May 21, 2010 Stern Exhibit B filed with the Motion to Clarify or Set Aside the Rule 11 Agreement with Virgie Arthur.

May 21, 2010 Stern Exhibit C filed with the Motion to Clarify or Set Aside the Rule 11 Agreement with Virgie Arthur.

May 21, 2010 Stern Exhibit D filed with the Motion to Clarify or Set Aside the Rule 11 Agreement with Virgie Arthur.

May 21, 2010 Stern Exhibit E filed with the Motion to Clarify or Set Aside the Rule 11 Agreement with Virgie Arthur.

May 21, 2010 Stern Exhibit F filed with the Motion to Clarify or Set Aside the Rule 11 Agreement with Virgie Arthur.

Stern’s Notice of New Hearing Date set by the Court’s Calendar for Hearings to August 6, 2010 at 2:30 P. M.

May 21, 2010 Art Harris Sur-Reply to Rose Turner’s Response, to Art Harris Response, Objection and Motion to Strike Turner’s Motion for Leave to Designate Responsible Third Parties.

May 21, 2010 Harris Exhibit A filed with Sur-Reply to Rose Turner’s Response, to Art Harris Response, Objection and Motion to Strike Turner’s Motion for Leave to Designate Responsible Third Parties.

May 21, 2010 Harris Exhibit B filed with Sur-Reply to Rose Turner’s Response, to Art Harris Response, Objection and Motion to Strike Turner’s Motion for Leave to Designate Responsible Third Parties.

May 21, 2010 Virgie Arthur’s Response to Art Harris Sur-Reply to Rose Turner’s Response, to Art Harris Response, Objection and Motion to Strike Turner’s Motion for Leave to Designate Responsible Third Parties.

Arthur’s Exhibit A filed with Arthur’s Response to Art Harris Sur-Reply to Rose Turner’s Response, to Art Harris Response, Objection and Motion to Strike Turner’s Motion for Leave to Designate Responsible Third Parties.

Arthur’s Exhibit B filed with Arthur’s Response to Art Harris Sur-Reply to Rose Turner’s Response, to Art Harris Response, Objection and Motion to Strike Turner’s Motion for Leave to Designate Responsible Third Parties.

Be sure to participate in our MEMBERS ONLY FORUMS, get the most out of the site by learning your way around in the forums where you can safely discuss things you do not want to see copied and pasted on another site.

©Rose Turner
May 21, 2010
All Rights Reserved, do not reproduce in whole or in part without the express written consent of the author.

The expressions in this blog article are based on the opinions of Rose Turner or our featured authors, please remember we are not lawyers and those opinions expressed here are each of our individual opinions and should not be taken as legal advice and/or legal opinions. The comments following this blog article are the opinions and sole property of the blog site members and do not necessarily reflect those of the site owners.

Please also read our Terms of Use and our Privacy Policy.

Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
184 Responses to “Is this latest development; SMEARING OF A DEFENDANT, or WITNESS INTIMIDATION? ___ You decide~”
  1. DiamondGirl says:

    71. Awww come on now… maybe they have been ware by Mark……. =))

  2. JMA says:

    DG [79] EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW that’s as bad as if JH herself had them on :woot: HM maybe they’re from one of MH’s female Troll followers =))

  3. BEVERLY says:

    BETH—JMA—MY hope is .he is suing JH ,for the money,with this bunch of LOW LIFES,they may make money on TV appearances.articles more books to come. :dunno: :

  4. Beth says:

    OMG! The HATTEN’S are working OVERTIME with their BS in trying to counter this lawsuit JH is in…

    What’s the matter little liar girl? >> FEELING THE PRESSURE???? Big creepy brother tryin to help??

    *** NEW TMZ STORY, on the top at this moment….

    “Howard K. Stern Allegedly Threatens ‘Witness’” Originally posted 26 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

    “ Howard K. Stern has been accused of threatening a man whom South Carolina police call a “witness” in the Anna Nicole Smith drug trial … this according to a police report obtained by TMZ.

    In the report, it says Hatten opened up Stern’s alleged MySpace message on one of the officer’s laptops, which read: “You are in over your head. You are being watched. Keep a look out before everything comes crashing down, do you understand me?”

    We cannot confirm if Hatten will be a witness in the Anna Nicole-related case involving Stern, but Greeleyville cops are calling the investigation, “Intimidation of a witness/harrassment via Internet.”

    Stern scoffs at Hatten’s allegation, telling TMZ, “Don’t you have to have a MySpace account in order to leave a message? I’ve wouldn’t even know how to leave a message on MySpace.” “

    Read what M. Hatten wrote… what a NUT!
    http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0518_hatten2.pdf

  5. BEVERLY says:

    BETH—-Once this is checked out by the police department and proven false,this will give a jury in the Cal case a preview of a LIAR.As a Attorney Howard would NEVER write on any my space to a witness,and this incident will prove what the Dea and the state has for a witness.The Hatten’s are sure looking to keep there name in the news and for money/

  6. BEVERLY says:

    I would say ,check the time of the my space message,and where Howard was at the time/

  7. DiamondGirl says:

    Whoever did this might find their ass in a whole lot of trouble because I am pretty sure it can be traced. Tampering with a witness? What the hell did MH witness? And wouldn’t anything he said be a little biased in any lawsuit since he claims it was Stern that put his ass in a cell years ago?

  8. BEVERLY says:

    Diamondgirl—–Knowing the Bloggers lawsuit is still on going ,and Howard lawsuit against Jackie hatten,still on going,what made Hatten think he would get away with that lie,for all we know Jackie put it on My space,the whole thing makes no sense.except to destroy Howard.

  9. heath says:

    What is with the Hattens at the moment..ebay old knickers…My space…. anyone can open an account in any name, but from a guy who’s computer and email etc is under investigation…… :yeah:

  10. Beth says:

    No one would call him in as a witness EXCEPT his sister. IMO

    CA case would not touch MH with a ten foot pole. Ex cons do NOT MAKE CREDIBLE WITNESSES.

    McCabe Sizzles typed on the comments > Way to go (wonder if she got paid for that one?) [degrading comments towards HKS]

    MH typed an asinine comment on the first page too. SICKO

    ***Sammy, I cannot open this document > http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0518_hatten2.pdf

    If you can open it… can you copy it and put it in an email in the message part or me? (only if you have time)

    I tried to save the link, I tried to open it also… Nothing is working. ty

    >>> Has anyone else been able to read MH’s complaint filed?

  11. heath says:

    Also some weird posts at TMZ re Larry….thinking someone is maybe off his meds…cause it probably is connected as maybe same author…..

  12. JMA says:

    Beth [87] I just finished reading the article and the comments…OMG the Troll’s as usual are falling for MH line of BS. :moron: ‘s

    heath [92] yes anyone can set up a MySpace page using any name they want and I have no doubt that this is a bogus page set up using HKS name. Ha-Ha they think/thought it make more realistic to by adding a pic of him. In order to prove it was HKS they would have to trace the IP #!

    Why the hell would HKS threaten MH on MySpace when he could easily have his Attorney contact Hatten and put a stop to whatever it’s suppose to be that Hatten is doing.

    How ironic for this crap to surface just when HKS vs. JH is getting reading to the courtroom.

  13. heath says:

    Swims take…sensible as usual. Thanks swims

    32. This is the quality of the LA Prosecutor – as low to the gutter as Mark Hatten is.

    • Tabloid malicious lies and irrelevant psychobabble by Renee Rose during HKS’s preliminary hearing
    • State’s witnesses that contradicted the State’s case
    • Only the second-hand testimony of Agent Santiago regarding his alleged interview with one of ANS’s nannies carrying the day (a nanny who barely speaks English and only briefly worked in the house)

    It is no surprise that Renee Rose is associated with Hatten, a violent felon the FBI knows is certifiable in his wild previous claims against HKS. Her desperate case apparently calls for desperate measures – she already is in bed with the riff-raff of the TX cabal, why not one of VA’s favorites.

    Posted at 5:17 PM on May 19, 2010 by Only swim in the Ocean

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/19/howard-k-stern-allegedly-threatens-anna-nicole-smith-witness/3/#comments#ixzz0oQPydROo

  14. JMA says:

    OMG it says in the police report that…”Officer White was informed that anyone that is a potential witness or is writing a book about Anna Smith in some form is getting Email or something from Stern” he also tells the Officer “he [HKS] has attempted or is suing another Author in New York for his book about Ms. Smith”

    Um who is this Author in New York [according to Hatten it’s HE] that HKS to date trying to sue for writing a book about Anna?

  15. Rose says:

    Beth yea I read the document it says the Officer White got hold of the Assistant D. A. Renee Rose in L. A. and she said HKS was doing this to any witness or anyone writing a book… why would a D. A. tell that to an out of state police officer???

  16. JMA says:

    Another OMG…McStalker…Oops I mean McSizzles is claiming that Mark Hatten is writing a book, :wtf: McStalker is acting as though she has the inside scoop/nitty gritty as to what’s really going on behind the scenes, oh pleazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  17. JMA says:

    Rose [98] but is it out of New York?

  18. JMA says:

    Rose [99] I think it’s one big freaking set-up!!!

  19. JMA says:

    Oh and I misread the police report :oops: I thought it was Hatten who was giving all this info to the Officer until I went back and re-read the report, my bad.

  20. Rose says:

    JMA I agree on the it is a set-up… HKS would be too smart to let something come right back to him less than 3 months before his trial… Give me a break… no way would he leave a trail like that so this is pretty obvious and what great timing to release the police report on the day sister dear got pulled off of Ebay…. so many sick folks out there but WHY would the Assistant D. A. Renee Rose end up being quoted like this on a out of state police report… makes no sense to me…

  21. Rose says:

    JMA I think the book publisher is in New York…. anyone remember who the publisher was for Seidlin’s book… and MH is writing a book about what??? And why does he have “female followers” talking about getting this guy off … YUK just think about it how sick is right???

  22. BEVERLY says:

    Looks to me like the DEA and Reene Rose have a poor case,and afraid they will lose, so lets stir the pot,and Rose is right,why would any state police officer be told,if this was the case about Howard using My Space,this would be a on going investigation,involing the FBI ,not a HALF WIT reporting it to a police officer.

  23. Bewildered says:

    :what: the :twisted: is up with all these :wckdwtch: ? I :roll: and :rofl: at their :loser: attempts to get more attention than they deserve :groooan: . :what: a bunch of :assholesign:

  24. Rose says:

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/05/howard-k-stern-denies-tampering-witness

    So wouldn’t accusing HKS across a social network and filing a fake police report be a crime??? I would think Beverly you are right why isn’t the FBI investigating this? What is the punishment in S. C. for making a false police report???

  25. Messy says:

    In no way would I beleive HS wrote that stupid azz message. I wonder if that is really MH writing all his all over the place? Has been for a while now eh.

    Diamondgirl,
    Yes, IKWYM.

    JMA,
    The whole relationship is blown to be more than it was. Same as JH, and she likes the hattens. Telling all by itself.

    On your other note about what she is writing now, she believes everything Red tells her and vice versa. Two peas in a pod, and well deserving of each other. Where there is fake, Red is around the corner.

  26. Sammy1 says:

    Beth – Just sent email with requested attachment frm TMZ.
    I’m somewhat behind in reading and just now catching up. JH and MH have been busy. No way would HKS have sent message through MySpace, Facebook or Twitter. He’s definitely smarter than a 5th grader. GMAB!!!!

  27. Beth says:

    Sammy,
    Thank you so much!
    I figured out it was my reader (adobe) I will have to restore it tomorrow or the next day.
    I knew I could count on you. Thanks so much!

    What a mess another Hatten has created! First his sister with the ‘sound bite’ LIES that are repeated to this day from the VA supporters
    who act like that crap is the gospel, no Court of law will believe the likes of her or her brother. No jury will anyway… poor HKS how
    many times is it now he has gotten falsely accused?

    Funny! ‘smarter than a 5th grader’! TY dear. @};-

  28. Beth says:

    ALL OF THIS CRAP from the Hattens is BECAUSE Jackie and Mark blame HKS for Mark spending 7 years in prison.
    This is their low class way to get payback.

    NEWSFLASH > HKS didn’t put you in prison! The jury did for your scary stalking actions and something to do with a knife if I remember correctly!

    Maybe the “Hollywood” self proclaimed middle name of this nut should be changed to “Scumbag”? Just saying.

  29. Liann says:

    Heath, It is comical, “e-bay old knickers…My space….” I think that says it all regarding the Hattens.. IMO they are nothing but old knickers and my space.

    You all know what we are all witnessing is putrid scum oozing out of the woodwork trying to distract from Howard getting JH to give a depo and the Hattens running scared from all their lies because they can’t back up shit of what they spew.. This is imo is way better for Howard because it blatantly shows how he is maligned and what lengths the psycho-stalkers will go too. :dblfu2: . This is some good shit and also proves what California DA will buy into and ditto to them as to how the Hattens are desperate to avoid the inevitable. It is a win/win for both cases in California imo for Howard. Point will be proven.

  30. Liann says:

    I bet if you put both of the Hatten’s brains together it would still equal :moron: . How effing obvious is it that this is to distract, I wonder who gave them this idiotic advise or did they come up with this all on their own =)) =)) =))

  31. heath says:

    Thanks Swims

    36. HKS has been systematically victimized and defamed by VA and her wide group of people. The civil Court cases show the extent of the malicious lies. JB when charging HKS virtually read his bizarre allegations and alleged motives off the pages of Cosby’s shamed book. Hatten’s allegations are patently hot air and grandiose. Mark and JH are well known liars with delusional versions of their connection to ANS and her closest people. This is not ‘witness’ intimidation, this is a smear attempt directed toward a defendant.

    The Public needs to know quickly:
    • Is nut case MH at it again, yes or no? If not -
    • What is the extent of the involvement of JB’s Office?
    • What is the extent of the LA Prosecutors’ involvement?
    • What is the extent of VA and her people’s involvement?

    This situation needs to be sorted ASAP.

    Posted at 5:33 PM on May 19, 2010 by Only swim in the Ocean

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/19/howard-k-stern-allegedly-threatens-anna-nicole-smith-witness/3/#comments#ixzz0oSDs6acE

  32. BEVERLY says:

    GOOD MORNING EVERYONE—-When you are looking at “conviction at any cost”you then know what you are dealing with.The judical system in general has lost every bit of credibility they ever had in all my 73 years.The statement from assistant DA Renee Rose,is out of line and done with malicious intent,It appears Jerry Brown needs a win to help his political ambitions,THIS IS WHY ALL THESE CASES SHOULD NOW BE WRITTEN IN VIEW OF THE PUBLIC,NOT JUST IN THE INTERNET.Vergie and the OQ Law Firm from the start has used the press.Vergie Team Texas ,are STREET WISE people,NOT YOUR UPPER CLASS,so you have to play according to there low life methods.In other words bring yourself down (WAY DOWN) to there level.Why would Howard,with all that is being done in the bloggers and defamation case write threats on my space?But I think this was all done for EFFECT,To get the people all stirred up.like was done before and go in for the conviction.MY OPINION :lotsocoffee:

  33. DiamondGirl says:

    Don’t these people understand that they do more harm to their cases than helping it by doing this shit? MH thinks he is a creditable witness in anyone’s lawsuit, let alone against the man who he accused of being the one responsible for placing his ass in jail? And these are the very same people virgie befriended when her daughter died? OMG…. JH is another Anna wanna be. Let me clue you in… she will NEVER be.

    These people make me sick. More than 3 years later and they are STILL using Anna. Get a freaking job.

  34. BEVERLY says:

    DIAMONDGIRL—This as they say may be the straw that broke the camels back.Once it is found out ,what means Vergie and her group will go through,to convict Howard.I myself have beeen wondering,about ,maybe it is McCabe way of trying to get into Howards computer.

  35. JMA says:

    The main thing to remember here is…it’s a crime to file a false police report!! If the SC police are doing investigation then I’m sure they will find out who set up that MySpace page, just because Hatten pulls up a MySpace page that happens to have HKS name and picture on it does not automatically make it his.

  36. DiamondGirl says:

    Bev, I don’t know about getting into Stern’s computer. They have been trying this since the “big conspiracy” theory came into play. I would like to know how they knew when Stern was in California. Is someone stalking him? Was it in the news? Did he happen to post a threat when he happen to be at court that day? :roll:

    JMA… Yes I know and I also know how others like to sign onto sites using other peoples names and write whatever they feel like and be as nasty as they want to be. Of course these same people know who I am talking about also.

  37. BEVERLY says:

    JMA——It does not make any sense,Howard would put his picture up and use My Space,he is in the middle of court action,this is the thinking of Vergie ,Hatten,and when all is found out it may have just blown up in there face,JMA would it be a false report,maybe even Hatten did not know what Vergie and friends were up to.Vergie loves to play with people for her own purpose,She loves to TORMENT

  38. DiamondGirl says:

    Oh and I am also not going to pin this all on virgie desire to ger Stern. I think there is a lot of things to be said for bloggers who just have “to be on the right side of the fence” on this entire issue. It has never mattered to some people who got hurt, what the cost was. It always came down to “who was right”. Reminds you of a couple of recent internet cases doesn’t it?

    How freaking sad is that?

  39. JMA says:

    DG [122] :thumbsup:

  40. JMA says:

    DiamondGirl [124] are you referring to the HKS bogus MySpace page when to say “Oh and I am also not going to pin this all on virgie desire to ger Stern.” if so I agree the setup of that page IMO has nothing to do with VA but could possibly point to a supporter of her’s though. It’s funny when the bogus VA MySpace was set up all her supporters screamed it wasn’t her but now that there is a HKS page they’re screaming it’s him.

    Bev [123] No I don’t think it would be considered as filing a false police report if Hatten didn’t know that the page was bogus and really felt threaten by the message left for him but IMO I think he knows it is bogus. It will come to surface due to now he has involved the police which now they are obligated to do an investigation.

  41. BEVERLY says:

    JMA—Just finished food shopping,Lord those prices are up again,as I was shopping I wondered WHY if Renne Rose from the Da office knew about it WHY did she not check,she seemed to have done nothing .

  42. DiamondGirl says:

    I just don’t believe virgie is behind every little thing that has happened since Anna and Daniel died. While I do not have any great love for the woman, I can’t see her being the mastermind behind it all either. Maybe some of it is happening because people want to show their devotion to such a great mother (gag) and grandmother (gag gag) that THEY believe virgie to be. While others just feel the need to tip those scales any which way to show, damn it, they were right all along. Just see how rotten Stern was… blah blah blah…. Lawsuits have to be won DAMN IT !!!!

    It has been proved to me that Rita lied, O’Quinn made an ass out of himself (God rest his soul) and DC and his………. woman said what they were paid to say, Larry has his daughter and she looks happy and virgie….. welll virgie is still virgie. I think McCabe is trying to win points and is really doing a lousy job at it. My thought is that soon, no law firm or client will touch him in the future. After all, anyone can see how he writes his briefs and so far, the only way he has “won” any ruling was to have a judge as his friend or was she O’Quinn’s?

    As far as the rest of this tangle web, I will still wait and see. But I do believe some folks may be in for a hell of a surprise if they were to look deeper into whom they follow. Enough said.

  43. JMA says:

    Beth [130] I like your idea. Here is just one link in reference to ‘Penalty for Filing a False Police Report’ but as it states in this one link the penalties vary from state to state.

    http://www.ehow.com/about_5422932_penalty-filing-false-police-report.html

    OK…

    This is what I have found so far in reference to SC and the link is for the second page due to is shoes at the very end what the punishment is.

    “Especially noteworthy, filing a false police report is treated as a felony if the claim was a felony. The maximum punishment is five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.”

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2563029/false_police_reports_of_assault_a_growing_pg2.html?cat=17

  44. Bewildered says:

    If he’s so intimadated, why is he taunting HKS with messages on TMZ? If that’s him…

  45. JMA says:

    South Carolina Code of Laws
    (Unannotated)
    Current through the end of the 2009 Session

    SECTION 16-17-722. Filing of false police reports; knowledge; offense; penalties.

    (A) It is unlawful for a person to knowingly file a false police report.

    (B) A person who violates subsection (A) by falsely reporting a felony is guilty of a felony and upon conviction must be imprisoned for not more than five years or fined not more than one thousand dollars, or both.

    (C) A person who violates subsection (A) by falsely reporting a misdemeanor is guilty of a misdemeanor and must be imprisoned not more than thirty days or fined not more than five hundred dollars, or both.

    (D) In imposing a sentence under this section, the judge may require the offender to pay restitution to the investigating agency to offset costs incurred in investigating the false police report.

    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c017.htm

  46. JMA says:

    Bewildered [132] I was reading there earlier and noticed not just MH supposedly spewing but also some of the VAS that swore they did not post on that site. To much coincidences know what I mean :wink:

  47. Rose says:

    JMA I figured that HKS attorneys would be on top of this, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to decide this was babbling on MH part and nothing else.

  48. JMA says:

    OH My read the last paragraph of this article, IMO this man is certifiable CRAZY

    “I vow to prosecute Howard K. Stern to the full extent of the law with no mercy at all! This is for anyone that has ever been threatened or intimidated by a corrupt powerful official. I believe attorney Howard Kevin Stern Esq. is trying to murder me because I know the truth about what he has done in the past. I filed a police report against HKS to show ‘proof’ to the entire world and document his actions against me… just what a sick, twisted and evil person Howard really is! After everything HKS has done to hurt Anna Nicole Smith, Daniel Wayne Smith, Jackie Hatten, my entire family and myself… it is absolutely unthinkable that he would have the nerve to personally contact me, whatsoever for any reason at all. I will sleep a lot better when HKS is in prison for life, where he belongs,”

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Howard-K-Stern-Probed-for-Threatening-Anna-Nicole-Smith-Ex-Lover-142556.shtml

  49. DiamondGirl says:

    Wow, those people there are nucking futs….

  50. Rose says:

    JMA that is nuts… Florida is not doing any investigation right? Where do these rumors come from.

  51. JMA says:

    Rose [51] I have no clue :dunno:

    What I would like to know is when Hatten went to jail what was the evidence that convicted him? Who was it that file the complaint back then? Was it Anna, Howard or the neighbor? By Hatten’s claim HKS is responsible for him spending time in jail!

  52. JMA says:

    OH I forgot this part of the article in reference to the NUTZ claim.

    “We contacted Hatten for a comment on this and he says he will never rest until he proves Stern was involved in Anna Nicole Smith’s death, for which he plans to use all the proof he has gathered throughout the years. Moreover, he wants the attorney to know that, no matter the threats he makes, he (Hatten) has already taken matters in his own hands by hiring a personal bodyguard. Hatten also claims Stern tried to kill him 10 years ago by serving him with a “toxic blend of narcotics,” and that he continues to be out to get him as we speak.”

  53. JMA says:

    Rose~~ did you already have the Radar Online link in the article? If so SORRY I only noticed it when I came back :oops: sorry if I’m posting anything that’s already been posted here I’m only posting them as I find them.

  54. DiamondGirl says:

    MH needs to go to work and stop USING Smith to make a living, no wonder she dumped his ass so many years ago.

  55. JMA says:

    DG [55] yeah and some have the never to talk about LB & HKS

  56. Rose says:

    JMA nope got it from you and added it… as I read through all of this and keep thinking how could anyone buy this? HKS would have to be a blithering idiot to do something like this and he does not strike me as dumb so why is this even being repeated in online rags???

  57. Rose says:

    JMA you don’t go to jail for 7 years because of HKS testimony, there would have been a huge investigation and didn’t ANS and the neighbor who MH beat up so badly all testify? I thought the neighbor even sued ANS for medical care… but would have to go way back to try to find all of that… Anyone else have this???

  58. DiamondGirl says:

    I thought that this poor innocent MH….. :puke: had a knife involved in all of this. Am I remembering this right?

  59. DiamondGirl says:

    So far all I found was terroist threats but……………

  60. JMA says:

    Rose [58] exactly you do not go to jail on ONE PERSONS testimony. Hatten seems to want to pin his conviction on HKS alone. Apparently there was enough evidence/testimony from the two victims, ANS and this neighbor. UM duh does MH think he should have just walked for the beating the crap out of the neighbor?

    DG [59] I remember hearing something about a brick but I think it was said that the neighbor had it, I could be wrong though.

  61. JMA says:

    Rose [57] OH OK I thought I was posting links that were already posted here.

  62. JMA says:

    Two links here one is from when Hatten from his jail cell was trying to claim he was “the Daddy”

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/151736/convicted_anna_nicole_smith_stalker.html

    Here is another where psycho tries to sue HKS back in 2007

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20648780/

  63. trina says:

    I do know that the neighbor received some kind of citizens honor/ award for coming to ANS’ aid. This is all so stupid. What a waste of thought and time, imo. Hatten/Fedders deserves no one’s time of day. Shame on TMZ.

  64. JMA says:

    Get a load of the last part of this one.

    Anna Nicole’s Jailed Ex Fears Sex Tape Has Been Stolen

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=14186

  65. Beth says:

    Thanks Rose!

    LOL Just stepped in the door from this morning after last post… turned on TMZ Live…

    Harvey just said: >> ** Howard didn’t threaten ANY Witness, Mark Hatten has a HISTORY! **

    LOL, ya think? AND>>> what a HISTORY that man HAS!!!

    Then the questions moved on to Lindsay Lohan…
    For some reason TMZ has been ‘hot’ on that child’s tail for the last week or so…

  66. Ruby-Z says:

    Mark Hatten is a profound delusional sociopath. Anna supposedly dumped him after a three month fling when he started to become controlling and abusive towards her including threatening her with a knife in her bedroom. In retaliation Mark concocted the murder-for-hire of Pierce Marshall story that the FBI investigated and found to have no merit. Even Mark’s ex-wife called him “the biggest liar in the universe” and along with two ex-girlfriends confirmed his violently abusive behavior, particularly towards women. Mark didn’t go to prison for the “terroristic threats” he claimed Howard framed him on, but rather he was caught by the three strikes law for the attack on Rene Navarro. HKS’s attorneys should quickly nip this situation in the bud by amassing information and affidavits about the Hattens to present to the proper authorities.

  67. JMA says:

    Beth [66] wonder if Harvey can provide HKS’s legal council with the IP address of the person claiming to be Hatten and leaving messages directed to HKS on TMZ

  68. JMA says:

    Thanks Ruby-Z for the info.

  69. trina says:

    Hatten also went to the FBI with the accusation of ANS hired a hitman to kill Pierce Marshall.

  70. Beth says:

    MH talks like he is ONE OF THE TOPIX HKS ‘trashers’!

    Wonder if him and his sister are some of those AOL posters on ‘T’ > that viciously defame LB & HKS daily over there?

    TY Ruby-Z, good informative post!

  71. JMA says:

    trina [70] I read that to but can’t figure out which link/article it was in.

  72. Beth says:

    OMG!
    I have never before in my life even looked at a myspace page…
    I was reading on the old TMZ thread… that even VA has a myspace.
    (there is a link) after myspace (dot) com (slash > /) (then type vavavavavava (no spaces)
    When I went there I couldn’t beleive it, there must be some creepy person that
    made that up, can that actually be done? A myspace page created by someone
    trashing another person? It has a title quote: “Virgie I want free money Arthur” OMG!
    I do not nor never have liked her actions… BUT, shame on whoever made that page.

    Edited for privacy :)

  73. Beth says:

    JMA [68]
    YES. All HKS’s attorney’s needs to do is get a subpoena signed by a Judge to get that information. (MH’s IP from typing on TMZ)
    In this case, if HKS states these are false allegations by MH, I believe that is all it would take to prove his innocence.
    You do NOT have to have a Court case started to get a subpoena, just a good legal reason for asking for the subpoena.

  74. Beth says:

    If MH is still on probation from prison,
    and he is proved to file this FALSE police report….
    Then back to prison he shall go~ IMO

    Well, I am heading out again, have a good rest of the afternoon and evening everyone.

  75. JMA says:

    Hey Beth those comments supposedly written by Hatten over at TMZ do have the characteristics of two certain poster over at the Cesspool. IMO in looks like the combo of 2 posters due to the writings and insults. I mean come on how would Hatten know the word “STERNOIDS”

  76. raven says:

    Obviously these low class Hattens are just wanting attention, and it looks like they are getting it. I’m sure HKS and his attornies are on top of all this.

  77. Bewildered says:

    It all is pretty strange…didn’t he say he hired a bodyguard before? Some PI service or something that was going to protect him from the big bad wolf. If it doesn’t show some how embellished some of their (Jackie and Mark) stories were before, I don’t see how there can be any doubt now.

  78. Roxanne says:

    Beth
    All you need is an email address and be able to sign in and verify it. You can put whatever name there you want to.

  79. Liann says:

    I remember reading a while ago that the other sister was stalking Lindsay Lohan and she said she called on her brother’s advice. Google is my friend.

    http://www.defamer.com.au/tags/sashy-brock-richmond/

    What a family!, I could not agree more. They must have such empty lives that they feel the need to cling unto celebrities, maybe a major void in their souls they are trying to fill and maybe they should be pitied? (NOT)!!. :laughingdblfu: , I don’t know the other sisters story but JH and Weird are nothing but psycho-stalkers and attention whores that are trying to deflect JH day in court. I do feel for Howard but this BS is comical because Weird and JH refuse to except their destiny because they felt it necessary to lie and put their mugs out there also I find it comical that Weird has such a groupie following at the pit that just proves the pits mentality imo.

  80. DiamondGirl says:

    I hope they find out who did this and put their sorry ass in jail.

  81. BEVERLY says:

    ~o) Well.spent some tIme yesterday reading up on Mark Hatten,come to the conclusion,you have a NARCISSIST,PHYSICO.This was taken from my space yesterday”I filed a report against Howard K Stern Esq for threats against me”Top Story on TMZ tonight,STAY TUNED,I am sorry Harvy Levin was not smart enough,to figure this creature out.He got his press,but what he also got in the process,is another police investigation,which to my way of thinking,Howard is the one that needs protection,Seems to me Hatten needs to be put in a mental hospital and evaluated,because soon this will take a turn NO ONE WANTS.PLUS,if the AG office was planning on using either Hattens,they will be the laughing stock they deserve to be. :mornincoffee:

  82. trina says:

    ITA with you Beverly, Hatten is off his rocker. So has anyone heard when/if Hatten’s book is going to be released? Hatten has been saying June 2010. And of course the police report mention the book. So is this just a way to get some free publicity?

  83. BEVERLY says:

    TRINA—-After what I read yesterday.I am upset the police gave him any credence,and with his continued harrassment of Howard,I feel he is a time bomb.This is far from just making statements,this has gone way beyond that.This is revenge,and it is eating him up.NO ONE,should have to be subjected to this SICK form of harrassment. :loser:

  84. JMA says:

    Mark “HE WAS RAILROADED” Hatten’s Fan Club is cracking me up =))

  85. JMA says:

    trina [83] you may have to direct that question to his groupie McSizzle, seems she has the inside info on that rumor :whatever:

  86. DiamondGirl says:

    Beverly, I think the police have to check into every complaint. It doesn’t mean that they believe it is the truth, but hey whatever. I would like to know how Hatten knew (if true)when Stern was in CA? Does he say this because of the date that the “threat” was posted and he knows who posted it?

    Wouldn’t it be a kick in the ass if Stern was actually in the Bahamas the day thisthreat was posted? Can we say handcuffs, perjury, false police report?

  87. BEVERLY says:

    JMA—-ANYONE that condones Hatten behavier,and are proud of that fact,in fact encourage it.she be held legally responsible,if any harm comes from his behavier.McSizzles is encouraging his behavier and is so proud of herself,and it again tells me Topix is a troublemaking site,Good thng she uses McSizzles because,if I was her,THANK GOD I AM NOT.Encouraging a disturbed person I hope is punishable. :nonosign:

  88. trina says:

    http://lada.tv/mr/archive/2004/021804b.htm

    this is the link to ANS’ neighbor being honored as a courageous citizen

  89. Rose says:

    I have put up 18 new filings including exhibits with this article that was filed with the First Court of Appeals and the Harris County 80th District Court today involving several parties.

  90. heath says:

    I just read this and it makes me wonder …we might have already had the effects of this.

    Report: Facebook caught sharing secret data with advertisers
    By Eric Bangeman | Last updated about 22 hours ago

    The privacy issues that have been hounding Facebook may be coming to a head. A report in the Wall Street Journal indicates that the Facebook, along with MySpace, Digg, and a handful of other social-networking sites, have been sharing users’ personal data with advertisers without users’ knowledge or consent.

    The data shared includes names, user IDs, and other information sufficient to enable ad companies such as the Google-owned DoubleClick to identify distinct user profiles. Some of the sites in question, including MySpace and Facebook, stopped sharing the data after the Journal asked them about it. The surreptitious data sharing was first noticed (PDF) by researchers from Worcester Polytechnic Institute and AT&T Labs in August 2009, who brought it up with the sites in question. It wasn’t until WSJ contacted them that changes were made.

    Not surprisingly, Facebook appears to have gone farther than the other sites when it comes to sharing data. When Facebook’s users clicked on ads appearing on a profile page, the site would at times provide data such as the username behind the click, as well as the user whose profile page from which the click came. “If you are looking at your profile page and you click on an ad, you are telling that advertiser who you are,” Harvard Business School professor Ben Edelman told the Journal. Advertisers contacted by the paper said that they were unaware of the additional data and did not make use of it.

    Facebook has tweaked its privacy policy throughout its history, with the most recent moves to open up more user information to the public drawing heavy criticism and FTC complaints. Users have also had a tough time navigating the site’s often-Byzantine privacy controls, which has led to a trickle of user defections. With these latest revelations about Facebook ignoring industry standards, not to mention its own privacy policies, that trickle may turn into a torrent.

    Update: want to know how the data sharing works? We explain.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/05/latest-facebook-blunder-secret-data-sharing-with-advertisers.ars?utm_source=Ars+Technica+Newsletter&utm_campaign=517d77d2b3-May_21_2010_Newsletter&utm_medium=email

  91. Liann says:

    I only read so far HKS Reply and Motion to Clarify, L.Lin Wood is concise always to the point he makes reading legal documents interesting, he is not one to stoop to ridiculous repetitiveness filled with insults in his filings, he does not get caught up emotionally. I think that his professionalism is outstanding! ^:)^ and he is not hard on the eyes either :whistling:

    I think it is awesome how L.Lin Wood addresses the subject of Chrystal Baker and also of what he is saying about Rose’s depo and the picture McC is trying to paint. What is McC waiting for?. He has had years to get Howard’s depo. The truth is long overdue.

  92. Liann says:

    I just read Art’s Sur-Reply, I am confused as always :dunno: I hope everyone is well and has a better understanding then I do. I don’t get so much of the back and forth and the needless waist of time. Damn, as I said the truth is long overdue!!!!!, Is it down to revenge now and hurts feelings and I thought that this case was purely based on that to begin with. :dunno: , Some people need to get over their anger and others their fear imo no matter how you look at this case it appears that this has been strung along by a puppet master who really is dragging this case out and who is trying to get it resolved?.

  93. trina says:

    Art Harris is a very important link between HKS and RT, especially for jurisdiction over HKS. The plaintiff’s attorney has not yet been able to connect that link, evidently, seeing as the Plaintiff’s attorney continues to fight/delay Special Appearances and a jurisdictional ruling. I look at it in context of the Fed TX suit and how VA got her jurisdiction over HKS in that case. HKS and ANS were directly associated with CBS and the TV interview. No kingpins, conduits, or cabals, or gangs, etc. as in this TX state case. I think McC knows that he doesn’t have enough to keep HKS in the suit. And without HKS what is the point?

    ~Why is it that everytime Rose files a motion, McC jumps on it with some sort of response/reply, and backs Rose up? It almost seems like a tag team, imo.

  94. trina says:

    Or could this possibly be a way for the Plaintiff’s attorney to defeat/circumvent the COA ruling? Just a thought, imo.

  95. Roxanne says:

    I just read HKS reply…… HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I would say that is a pretty big BITCH SLAP in the face to a few people. OMG it was hilarious and so so true. Wonder if there are a few who are pretty pissed off at being called nothing and unimportant and LAUGHABLE…… LOVED IT!!!!!!

  96. Rose says:

    Trina I have no idea why Mc filed anything after Harris Sur-Reply… my understanding is that I could not file an answer but then I have not read all of the rules on when to file what… It might be just there was an opening to get part of the depo in??? Who knows I don’t…

  97. Rose says:

    Rox I have not read the filings by HKS, will try to do that this morning… I too enjoy Wood’s filings

  98. Beth says:

    You CAN TELL LW’s words are written in that Reply! Such an intelligent, straight forward lawyer who DOES KNOW the LAW! IMO
    ____________________________________________________________________
    Here is a partial quote from a post on the old TMZ thread, (Hsupporter)
    (partial repost) “..AH reserves the right to following the rules of Texas civil procedure and request sanctions for this abuse/misuse/collusion/vexatious litigation and all the rest of it when a defendant voluntarily becomes a shill/pawn in the hands of a notoriously unethical lawyer.”
    ____________________________________________________________________

    > I did mention a few days ago that ’more’ could be coming if these ’filings’ were to continue to USE AH in attempts to ’get HKS’… this crazy Busy Street notion for example…

    >> for Heaven’s sake!!! > if you have been legally released from this MERITLESS CASE…

    Well I am having trouble wording my thoughts here—

    [If YOU do not want to be SUED by the other Defendants >>> MAYBE refuse to answer the phone if that law firm calls, change you email address, accept no faxes, ect… CUTTING OFF all ties might be a good thing, as you yourself said something months ago about that nutcase continuing to MOVE that goalpost further away..]
    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
    Those are my thoughts on how you will not be added to new cases in the future…

    * This crazy behavior by an irrational, revengeful ex law professor who appears to be jealous as hell; regarding his inadequate performance in his legal briefs to and responding to all of the Defendants with lawyers… might just be luring you into further lawsuits that I am sure you will get NO HELP in fighting!

    That might be a good thing… the NO HELP part. (not more cases of possible sanctions and legal actions against you for possibly listening to that awful, uneducated, unethical advice) JMHO
    _____________________

    REPOST from swims: (re: these latest filings)

    “This is why self-interested lawyers using the Courts to further their own agenda rather then that of a worthwhile client are so dangerous. Courts assume that lawyers file legitimate paperwork and not deceitful fantasies meant to delay and cost defendants money for one bogus complaint after another.” “Posted on May 22, 2010 by Only swim in the Ocean”
    ______________________
    Another good REPOST regarding M.Hatten’s crazy post on the TMZ piece about himself
    (the one w/ the FALSE ALLEGATIONS on HKS)

    Repost:
    “ “You are in over your head. You are being watched. Keep a look out before everything comes crashing down, do you understand me?”

    (( > swims’ comment to this above statement: ))
    _________________________________________________
    “A grandiose statement like this, implying a lofty significance to a person that does not exist in reality is characteristic of the Hattens as well as the O’Q/VA trolls from 2007 onward. It is certainly nothing that a principal of the ANS saga would say about or to a person of no importance in this story. It is similar to VA/McCabe claiming that others conspired to interfere with legal rights that VA never had. Time will tell.”
    “Posted on May 22, 2010 by Only swim in the Ocean”
    _________________________________________________

  99. Beth says:

    I AM IN SPAM….

    There were no posted links in my other post, nor any key words that should have put it in spam.

  100. Beth says:

    After review > #7, pg 4 of AH sur repy…

    I see that you have not been released, looks like AH and his lawyers have HELPED your ‘position’ that McC stuck you in become more clear to the Court…
    this might be a blessing in disguise! imho

  101. Rose says:

    Beth is this your thoughts or Howard Supporter on TMZ thoughts??? That could be consider as intimidation to get me to lie and that is NOT going to happen. Now do I have a cause of action against Art Harris, yea probably… However if LB wants to come to Texas and sue me, let him get in line… Please also note that Harris’ attorneys are saying there are OVER 3,000 emails I HAVE turned over between Harris and me… yet in other filings they say Harris has turned over a total of 4,000 DOCUMENTS… it does not take a math wizard to put together what I have been saying and that is without Harris’ correspondence with and between all of the defendants the “perception under Texas law as in most states now and in federal statute that to destroy doucments is an admission you have something to hide, thus the conspiracy theory when in fact if the documents had not been destroyed the court would have the whole picture”… Many many courts have now ruled that destruction of documents that are recovered through a third person thus proving the documents exist is VERY serious and CAN lose a lawsuit when in fact the doucments might have proved excatcly the opposite… I also note that the fact of what Wood feels about the total contents of my deposition kind of explains I have not deserved to be bashed over a few pages released to date… which goes to tip of an ice berg theory I have stated over and over again, before you pass judgment on any of the defendants in this case or that I threw any of the defendants under a train by complying with court ordered production which VA and others certainly deserved if it was from and to other defendants or addressed ANS, VA or the defendants… Which is what Lindsay should have granted without the list of 40 names… However sadly Harris had already destroyed large volumes of documents which makes all of us look guilty. It feels to me in Wood’s latest filings he is kind towards me because I have not lied and appears to be moving away from Harris (I. E. not supporting his objection to me adding Busystreet to get those things Harris is shuffling ownership between him in a shell game of hiding evidence that relates directly to this suit).

    Anyway is this you talking here or Howard Supporter on TMZ??

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    “Here is a partial quote from a post on the old TMZ thread, (Hsupporter)
    (partial repost) “..AH reserves the right to following the rules of Texas civil procedure and request sanctions for this abuse/misuse/collusion/vexatious litigation and all the rest of it when a defendant voluntarily becomes a shill/pawn in the hands of a notoriously unethical lawyer.”
    ____________________________________________________________________

    > I did mention a few days ago that ’more’ could be coming if these ’filings’ were to continue to USE AH in attempts to ’get HKS’… this crazy Busy Street notion for example…

    >> for Heaven’s sake!!! > if you have been legally released from this MERITLESS CASE…

    Well I am having trouble wording my thoughts here—

    [If YOU do not want to be SUED by the other Defendants >>> MAYBE refuse to answer the phone if that law firm calls, change you email address, accept no faxes, ect… CUTTING OFF all ties might be a good thing, as you yourself said something months ago about that nutcase continuing to MOVE that goalpost further away..]
    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
    Those are my thoughts on how you will not be added to new cases in the future…

    * This crazy behavior by an irrational, revengeful ex law professor who appears to be jealous as hell; regarding his inadequate performance in his legal briefs to and responding to all of the Defendants with lawyers… might just be luring you into further lawsuits that I am sure you will get NO HELP in fighting!

    That might be a good thing… the NO HELP part. (not more cases of possible sanctions and legal actions against you for possibly listening to that awful, uneducated, unethical advice) JMHO”

  102. Rose says:

    Beth and the rest of the story on that is that any defendant can block me from being released, and the only one to date that has indicated they may try to block my release is none other than Harris

  103. Rose says:

    BTW have you read what Wood said about me??? There is no basis for any of the defendants to sue me for me telling the truth, being cross examined so attorneys can ask me direct questions that clear up the record, and for turning over documents between the defendants which is all VA should have ever been entitled to… it is now “perception” as in you think I am going to be sued by the other defendants, and yet don’t see the perception of legal opinions by multiple courts with regards to a party deleting evidence… Perhaps you will have a kinder feeling for me after you read Wood’s filing from Friday.

  104. Rose says:

    Beth I got you out of SPAM, I am the only moderator on the board today and I am multi-tasking on a deadline that I have to meet by Monday… the only reason I can see you ended up in SPAM is perhaps it was a long post but certainly nothing in the post…

  105. BEVERLY says:

    GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE—I was going through Mark Hatten letters he wrote from prision and came across this”Keep running you mouth Howard,WE ARE ALWAYS WATCHING and LISTENING “Now Hatten claims Howard THREAT to him stated”You are In over your head,YOU ARE BEING WATCHED.keep a lookout before everything comes crashing down..Hatten as a fixation on being watched.To my way of thinking QUESS who wrote on my space as Howard :rant:

  106. BEVERLY says:

    ps Guess not quess

  107. Beth says:

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/10/dr-sandeep-kapoor-anna-nicole-smith-drugs-howard-k-stern-tmz-live2/51/#comments

    Sorry, but I do agree with the comments from HS and Swims regarding these motions in the link above.
    All of these insinuations about AH’s emails, IMO that HAS NOTHING TO DO with WHY you are in this FAKE CASE!
    The reason WHY you are in this FAKE CASE has to w/ only one thing IMO >> conversing on your own (without a lawyer) to McC and falling for his unethical actions, believe me it will be shown to the Court at how the Motions filed by you have appear to have the TX law firm ‘influence’ written all over them.
    That IMO is NOT a good place for anyone to be in… it can open a person up for follow up suits against them for these actions that cannot be substantiated.

    AGAIN… I will reiterate that this makes me NOT dislike you, just disliking the ‘actions’ of dealing with a seemingly crazy person who happens to be an Officer of the Court.

    All of those comments to me, above; mean nothing. That is not what anyone is saying. IMO the ONLY ONE keeping you in this FAKE CASE is the person that clearly ‘seems’ to be helping you with these Motions. If not, then I am in awe at the way they are written… due to the fact it sounds like it will only benefit VA and her side to continue to attack AH… jmo on this mess that seems to continually get WORSE with every Motion filed from TX.

    That is all I have on this now, I am so disheartened by this whole mess! I am also having trouble seeing the side you are trying to state against AH.
    It IS: “..completely beyond understanding.” (Byzantine)

    Byzantine:
    “complexity is a phrase used to refer to anything overly and unnecessarily complex; so complex as to be completely beyond understanding.”
    www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Byzantine-aristocracy-and-bureaucracy

  108. Rose says:

    Beth thank you for the compliment of my ability to write Motions, Responses and Replies, that means a lot to me that you respect my ability to research and do that… you made me blush, that is a big complement coming from you and I appreciate it… :)

    Byzantine… yea this case is a very complex case with a lot of BS, however I still say it is not complex enough to fall under Rule 171 for a Special Master, I feel it is complex for other reasons but not one that would justify Judge Lindsay to appoint a Special Master… I wondered why Harris opened up that can of worms with this filing when he is saying this is not such a complex of a case that the average Judge can rule on Motions for Production, the production, if all is there, I do not think the case has so much complexity to justify that the Court would need the help of a Special Master.

  109. Rose says:

    Oh and Beth one of the other things I did was after we lost Ogden I researched and suggested to Bonnie Stern how to file her Motions, Responses and Replies in Texas and which exhibits I would use if I were her… I also helped her lawyers in California because they did not know Texas statute and Bonnie did not have a lot of extra money for research and such…

    That said I probably will never again offer to be a Good Samaritan or reach out to anyone I think is getting a raw deal… the ANS saga and lawsuits has taught me a lot about not volunteering to help others…

  110. raven says:

    Oh Hi. I just dropped in to say that I enjoyed reading HKS’s Reply in Support of his motion to quash depo. Lin Wood was very nice to say those words about Rose. He is a true southern gentleman. I always ejoy his documents. :)

  111. BEVERLY says:

    Well,I would like to see Mark Hatten take a polygraph.Those are VERY SICK ranting he is doing on TMZ,He cannot understand ANNA herself NOT HOWARD got rid of him.

  112. BEVERLY says:

    Something else.bothers me.How can M Hatten be a witness to anything,For one ,he is filled with rage and revenge.He is NOT A RATIONAL person.He has a book comming out,Where does he get off saying he is a witness,IS THIS WHAT JERRY BROWN IS USING TO MAKE HIS CASE,then Brown should not even be a AG. :whoopdeedoo:

  113. Liann says:

    Bev it gets worse, Jerry Brown wants to be Governor again for California and he was one of the ones that started California going to hell in a handbag in the 70′s and it has been down hill from his reign . JB is the ultimate brain fart and problem with California. Have you ever heard him speak? he sounds like the mayor of LA always searching for words when asked questions and is always saying ahh ahh ahh, ahh ahh. I look at him and think the pistons are trying to fire in his brain but their is no spark to fire his brain with his mouth. God please help California. JB is a celebrity ambulance chaser and has been proven wrong, He is a joke just like the Hattens are celebrity chasers imo.

  114. BEVERLY says:

    LIANN—I am trying to remember why back to the 1950 and up.was Jerry Brown considered a flower child.What has got me po,is Dr Murray.This doctor gave Michael the Profocol,Michael did not get the med by himself,Dr Murray put the IV in Michael’s arm. it was the Profocol that killed Michael,yet ONE CHARGE of “Involuntary Manslaughter”and all the names on different bottles,ALL FORGOTTEN,while Howard did what so many in Hollywood did,put his name on bottles,what they all did under Jerry Brown AG term,but somehow lets make Howard responsible for all those years Jerry Brown sat on his butt and let that go on. and Jackie Hatten,when push came to shove threw Rita Cosby under the bus,beause she could not back up her lies,Now Mark Hatten,who professes his love for Anna,and in another breath says Anna tryed to hire him to kill Marshall,NUTS ON PARADE, :whoopdeedoo:

  115. JMA says:

    HM wonder if Jerry brown will be sticking his nose in this one, I mean there are some similarities…prescription meds and deaths were five months apart. IMO it may have been a grieving husband [so far they're saying natural causes] just like I believe in the ANS saga it was a grieving mother.

    http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20100524/US.Brittany.Murphy.Husband.Dead/

  116. BEVERLY says:

    JMA—-It is still early on his wife’s death,and although he seem to be going on with life,no one knows what he was going through when he was alone.I am so sorry that two young people with so much to offer the world,lifes ended.It is the after people go and you are alone,with your thoughts,I know a lot of men cry,when they are alonemay they now be in each other arms. :hug08:

  117. hmm says:

    I know many people from California on his side of the fence that won’t vote for him.California has to have better to offer than what has come out so far. :nonosign:

  118. JMA says:

    Beverly [117] you are right, it’s to soon after the loss of Brittany which is why I feel [my opinion here] that will play into his cause of death.

  119. Beth says:

    Hello JMA ~ TMZ had a few articles also…
    _______________________________________

    “Brittany Murphy’s Husband Found Dead

    Originally posted May 24th 2010 12:07 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
    Simon Monjack, widower of Brittany Murphy, was found dead late Sunday night at his home in the Hollywood Hills — the same home where his wife Brittany Murphy collapsed and eventually died five months earlier … and both bodies were discovered by the same woman.

    Law enforcement sources say Brittany’s mother, Sharon Murphy, found Monjack unconscious in the master bedroom around 9:30PM, and then called 911.

    Monjack was pronounced dead sometime after paramedics arrived … when resuscitation efforts failed.

    Monjack reportedly died from cardiac arrest, though nothing officially has been determined.

    The similarities are remarkable. Murphy was found unconscious by her mother Sharon. Sharon found Simon unconscious as well. Murphy was found in the master bathroom. Simon was found in the master bedroom of the same home. Paramedics administered CPR to Simon. Simon administered CPR to Brittany. And they may have both died from cardiac arrest … five months apart.

    A death investigation is underway.

    UPDATE 5:15AM PDT: Law enforcement sources tell us prescription bottles were found in the house (as they were when Brittany died), but there were no illegal drugs. There is no sign of suicide or foul play … as a result LAPD has closed their investigation. It’s all in the coroner’s hands now.
    _____________________

    Simon Monjack — Possible OD
    Originally posted May 24th 2010 6:30 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

    Law enforcement sources tells TMZ there are signs Simon Monjack may have died from an accidental overdose of prescription drugs.

    One well-placed source says, “There were a number of pill bottles on the nightstand in the bedroom, and some were empty.”

    There is, obviously, an eerie similarity to the death of Monjack’s wife, Brittany Murphy, just five months ago. In her case an array of prescription drugs were found on the nightstand of the same bedroom where Monjack died. Many of the drugs on Simon’s nightstand were the same as the ones found after Brittany died.

    One law enforcement source says the two causes of death that seem most plausible at the moment are “natural” and “accidental drug overdose.”

    Monjack told TMZ recently he had suffered a heart attack during the incident last November when he had a medical emergency aboard an airplane.

    Brittany’s mother, Sharon Murphy, discovered Monjack’s body last night. She is also the one who found her daughter, Brittany, unconscious and on the floor of the bathroom five months earlier.

    UPDATE: TMZ has learned Simon was scheduled to have bypass surgery in September.”

  120. Bewildered says:

    I think you can die from a broken heart…

    If…and I know it’s only an if…if that is really MH posting on TMZ…oh please…pretty please….with cherries on top, let him be a witness =)) ;))

  121. BEVERLY says:

    BEWILDERED—–I am getting very upset with the AG office if M Hatten is led to believe he will be a witness.or a witness in anything to do with SC case,or his sisters,case.Right now if you read what he wrote,he feels inpowered,he is on a high thinking he has Howards life in his hands.Tmz giving him the time of day,is also responsible.What do you think will happen,if M Hatten does not get what he wants(Howards head).He has passed the line of coherent thinking.and is off on a high no drug can match. :loser:

  122. JMA says:

    Bewildered [121] OH I agree with you if that really is [which I have my doubts, writing is to similar to certain VAS] MH and should he be that stupid to post crap like that then yes :-bd let him be witness in the CA case =))

  123. JMA says:

    Beverly [122] IMO it’s not MH writing that crap over there, well unless he’s certified crazy. There is no way he could/would be a witness in the CA case if that is him writing those post cause every one of those post can be used against him. IMO I think those post could be used against him in his newest allegation against Howard.

  124. BEVERLY says:

    JMA—–I do believe it is MH.because he is bragging TMZ wrote a article on him,and it is now making sure he gets praise and does not like anything or anyone disagreeing with him.Sizzles is playing a dangerous game,but then.I consider Topix a very dangerous site,because they spew hate for everyone 24/7By now,there should have been a statement from the AG office As I said,MH thinks he holds Howards fate in his hands.The police plus Tmz should know where those comments are comming from,Maybe they are giving him enough rope to PUT HIM AWAY.before he can harm anyone.Where does his rage turn if he does not get what he wants,maybe Sizzles should think of that instead of egging him on,those people at topix have the same kind of hate,except they are not going off the deep end. :nonosign:

  125. JMA says:

    Beverly [125] the Troll’s can’t help themselves MH is their HERO they think he’ll be the one to put HKS behind bars. It’s hilarious how they hang on to his every word just like they do with what’s her name, oh yeah Melissa. I was reading over at the Cesspool last night and noticed how now the wannabe Author has picked up a few things other claim Anna wanted them to do and is using those claims for her departure from Anna’s life. Yeah she’s claiming Anna did the tattoo and baby thing [Anna supposedly wanting her to have a baby for her] on her first and that’s the reason she walked [we know she was booted] hm if that’s the truth she’s telling then what was her reason for being so pissed at Anna that she contemplated selling/showing some video to the media. And to think this is the person who claimed Anna stole her childhood trauma.

    I agree with the posters over there Melissa Byrum is and was a nobody who is trying to make a living or friends off this supposedly friendship she says she had with Anna. Hell with friends like her, who needs enemies, I mean does one loyalty go out the window when that friend has passed away.

    Ha-Ha she also tried to use some sort of autographed picture from someone else’s video as her proof she and Anna were BFF’s. Better proof would have been if it said somewhere along the lines ‘to my friend Missy’ on it, but nope it said “sweet cheeks”, yeah I looked at it and was not impressed. I have an autographed pic from one of my favorite country singers…um does that make me his BFF? OH wait I have an even better one, my son dated a girl for three years whose cousin is a well know actor…does that make me his BFF
    =)) not gonna say who cause I’m not the type of person who seeks attention by dropping names of those who are in the who’s, who :wink:

  126. Bewildered says:

    Awww Bev….unstable is putting it mildly..I don’t believe that MH has both feet firmly planted on the ground. It’s easy to see how he spent some time in “priseyland”. What’s even more interesting is how a supposed high profile agency linked their name to his to ‘protect’ him. With the statement that he was a ‘witness’ and needed protection. =)) If he’s making those comments on TMZ, than his reported threats from HKS, will fizzle. He looks like an ass with every post he makes. Maybe he’s trying to get a legal response back from HKS.

    Since I feel like this… :mornincoffee: …. I’m going to :lotsocoffee: and see if I can :woot: and get this day rolling.

    Oh…and before long…since my heart just couldn’t take it…a hint…. :o3

  127. hmm says:

    I once followed a link where the man MH was slobbering over some woman with his young son there.They may as well have just gotten a room.The man is sick sick sick and no wonder Anna got rid of both.It seemed he was well know for dealing drugs in Hollywood but was never actually caught. People in the know knew he was the person to go to for drugs what ever they wanted.
    I will say I watched just one video where Anna’s cousin was there asking to see her,that was enough .I wouldn’t watch any others.I think you can use other language then what was used.I know people use four letter words all the time but that is not my cup of tea and I think there are better ways of expressing your self.I hear it else where and don’t need to listen to it on a video or show. :owned:

  128. JMA says:

    For anyone who thinks just because a MySpace/Facebook page has someones name, pic and shows recent log-in date it must be theirs, HA not always the case.

    My daughter has a friend who just found out yesterday someone set up a bogus Facebook page using her name along with some pic’s that belonged to her, even had recent log-in. Yes she has reported this to Facebook and so did those who know her.

  129. BEVERLY says:

    JMA—-I know patience is a virtue,But I wish They would already clear Howard’s name.with MH accusuations.You have know idea,how Sizzles made my stomach turn.It is one thing to believe in a cause ,it is another to egg on someone who is so with rage and revenge that as unstable as he is ,harm could be the outcome.You know,when I thought we all had our views and debated back and forth and disagreed most of the time,it was fine,but for Sizzles to say go mark go,that did it for me,I will never again read anything on topix,I still cannot believe a grown woman,would use someone so unstable for her opposition to Howard.The police are finding out just how unstable that John M Carr is who confessed to killing Ramsey,his former girlfriend is afraid of him,He dresses as a woman to lure little girls the look like the Ramsey child, :gaah!:

  130. JMA says:

    Beverly [130] I agree 110% and quite sure they will find that the MySpace page and supposed message/threat did not come from HKS. I believe it will be proven. As for McFizzled out freak, pay no mind as to what she says or thinks knows in reference to those personally involved in this saga. If she’s relying on info from a CONVICTED felon and a drug addicted former stripper that proves what a low class lowlife she herself is.

  131. JMA says:

    Correction for #29 should have said recent [meaning as of yesterday] responses supposedly from her to others comments on the bogus FB page.

  132. hmm says:

    JMA it isn’t only face book it is any of the social netwworking sites including email addresses like g mail and hot mail yahoo ect you canput anyones name.

  133. Liann says:

    Here is something really scary, If anyone has ever used a public copier like at Kinko’s etc or at your local grocery store that information is stored to the hard drive as of around 2001 and It was on I think 60 Minutes or something recently but I just heard on talk radio that those hard drives are bought and sold as a commodity and 60 Mins or something bought 3-4 at 300.00 each and the information stored has so much info on people that is used for I.D. theft. Most of the copier companies have a lease with the host establishments and can remove their equipment at anytime. I have heard also that even having a magazine subscription your information is shared it is just scary all around if you ask me.

    I hope everyone is well! :dance:

  134. heath says:

    Hi Liann,

    I put an article about Facebook etc taking info I put it on the article above…have a look…

    I am good thanks for asking :) ))

    Just doing stuff :)

  135. BEVERLY says:

    GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL ~o) I hope you all have a wonderful Memorial Day.The traffic has already gotten like a mad rush.Sister and the kids are comming,all the boats are in and away we go for the summer.Maybe next year this mess will be over and Howard and everyone else,Will NEVER have to hear Vergie Arthur Name again ,Lord I pray that is not asking to much :hug07:

  136. Bewildered says:

    RIP Gary Coleman…strange to look at his picture and see whiskers. Another gone too soon…

    MR. Hatten must be busy these days…he’s not posting lately. Maybe he’s gearing up for the holiday. But I did find the perfect utube for him…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfXYwhdvhL0&feature=related

    Hope everyone has a great and relaxing Memorial Day…

  137. JMA says:

    Bewildered [137] yes very sad about Gary Coleman poor guy went through a lot in his life.

    Ha-Ha that video could be for a lot of those who have or want to throw themselves into the Anna Nicole saga.

  138. JMA says:

    Happy Memorial weekend everyone please take time to remember all our Soldiers who gave their lives for our Freedom.

  139. JMA says:

    For those Soldier still putting their lives on the line protecting ours.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWrMeBR8W-c&feature=channel

    This is one of my favorites.

  140. Noni says:

    **== :-D Have a safe and happy Memorial Day weekend! @};-

  141. trina says:

    This whole Hatten thing made me think of Jax Desmond Worldwide so I did some googling. Found a website http://www.socnet.com/showthread.php?t=90879&page=4 where they were digging into Jax’s claims of being an “industry leader”…. some pretty funny stuff. The redcouch got a mention for her interview with Jax. The commenters on socnet got a kick out of how the ladies on redcouch were gushing over Jax. Anyways Jax Desmond Worldwide is not all that, imo.

    http://www.socnet.com/showthread.php?t=90879&page=2

    ——————————————————————————–
    This is the what was said about the comments on the redcouch site…..

    Thanks, Silverbullet. I needed a good laugh and this certainly provided it.

    I love the `anonymous’ comments about how gorgeous he is, what a good man he is, how you wouldn’t want to mess with him, blah blah blah. Bet it’s one ISP address and it goes to the basement of Jax Desmond’s mom and dad’s bungalow.

    Good times. Thanks again.

  142. BEVERLY says:

    TAKEN FROM THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE—–Harris County ranks first in the number of Doctors dispensing the three drugs that make up the Houston Cocktail,the article will be in Sunday’s paper.I guess Harris County CANNOT DO ANYTHING RIGHT.no wonder Vergie lasted 28 years n the police force. =))

  143. BEVERLY says:

    FOR TOPIX,AND SPECIAL ATTENTION SIZZLES AND QV,from BATTY BEV to you,NO ONE cares about your little find on Rose’s medical condition,If you were not so busy with being UGLY,that might sink in,Your home life has got to SUCK,every day 24/7 you cockroaches live, for UGLY.Rose has got something you cockroaches will NEVER HAVE (COMPASSION), Vergie and McCabe have the right sight to hawk there cause,I always said Vergie SUCKS AS A MOTHER ,and as a GRANDMOTHER :loser: :loser:

  144. BEVERLY says:

    HOUSTON CHRONICLE——Area is a hot bed for potent drug trio.HARRIS COUNTY leads the state in Doctors doling out addictive combo.Over a 15 month period,ending in March,one Houston physcian wrote more than 43,000 perscriptions for 3 highly addictive drugs,that have come to be known as the Houston

  145. BEVERLY says:

    Coctail or the Holy Trinity,at that prolific pace,the doctor would have a to average 3,000 prescriptions a month.He dashed off so many prescriptions that he averaged 64 for just one of the narcotic (HYDROCODONE).The doctor is one of six in Harris County who top the list of those writing prescriptionds in Texas for the ingredents usd in the potent cocktail.In Fact,a new Texas Department of Public Safty Tracting System shows HARRIS COUNTY DOCTORS OVERWHELMINGLY RANK FIRST in writing prescriptions for the drug dueo.

  146. DiamondGirl says:

    I have rather a long post, so please bear with me. This latest posting of medical information has me pissed off. The posts that following are more disgusting than any of the others I have read to date. Most of the posters at T make me sick. There was no reason to post a link to the court documents that show ANY medical information on ANYONE. My hope is, by doing so, you have now cost someone their job because they made an honest mistake. Way to go! If this info had not made it to the nastiness place on the entire web, then maybe things could have been handled quietly but sizzles, you made it your duty to make it known to all those hateful people. It is two different things between posting a tax notice and someones personal medical information. Let me be clear, I do not know what Rose’s heatlh condition is. IT IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS. I believe I will be sending the links involving this to all the lawyers involved in this saga and to the Harris County Court house, including the judge who is handling this saga.

    To even imply that some outsider actually knows more than the treating doctors involved in the care of the health of another, is asnine to say the least. To imply that the drugs that one takes can be found at 1-800 pet meds may be true, however, you do realize that many of the human drugs are used on animals also? The antibiotic you may have taken at one time might have been prescribed to my dog. You really can’t be that naive can you? I know of one blood pressure medicine that is used by both humans and my dog.

    Oh and I also check out information that is given. Want to know about some of those medications? Here you go:

    Ursodiol Oral tablet:
    http://www.bing.com/health/article/goldstandard-1500083078/Ursodiol-Oral-tablet?q=ursodiol&FORM=K1RE&qpvt=ursodial

    URSODIOL (ER soe dye ol) helps dissolve gallstones in patients who cannot have or who do not need gallbladder surgery. This medicine is also useful for certain liver diseases of adults, children and infants.

    Bupropion Hydrochloride Oral tablet
    Buproban™ Budeprion™ SR Wellbutrin® Wellbutrin® SR Wellbutrin® XL Zyban®
    http://www.bing.com/health/article/goldstandard-1500081001/Bupropion-Hydrochloride-Oral-tablet?q=budeprion&FORM=K1RE&qpvt=budeprion

    BUPROPION (byoo PROE pee on) is used to treat depression.

    This medicine may be used for other purposes; ask your health care provider or pharmacist if you have questions.

    Levothyroxine Sodium Oral tablet
    http://www.bing.com/health/article/goldstandard-1500081666/Levothyroxine-Sodium-Oral-tablet?q=Levothyroxine
    LEVOTHYROXINE (lee voe thye ROX een) is a thyroid hormone. This medicine can improve symptoms of thyroid deficiency such as slow speech, lack of energy, weight gain, hair loss, dry skin, and feeling cold. It also helps to treat goiter (an enlarged thyroid gland). It is also used to treat some kinds of thyroid cancer along with surgery and other medicines.
    Alprazolam Oral tablet
    http://www.bing.com/health/article/goldstandard-1500080861/Alprazolam-Oral-tablet?q=Alprazolam
    ALPRAZOLAM (al PRAY zoe lam) is a benzodiazepine. It is used to treat anxiety and panic attacks.

    This medicine may be used for other purposes; ask your health care provider or pharmacist if you have questions.

    GENERIC NAME: FLUTICASONE – NASAL SPRAY
    http://www.medicinenet.com/fluticasone-nasal_spray/article.htm
    This medication is a corticosteroid that works directly on the nasal passages to reduce swelling and inflammation. Fluticasone is used to relieve seasonal and year-round, allergic and non-allergic nasal symptoms such as itching, runny or stuffy nose, postnasal drip and sneezing in adults and children 4 years of age and older.
    Use this medication usually once or twice a day as directed by your doctor. Do not use more than 2 sprays in each nostril daily as this may increase the risk of side effects.

    Tramadol Hydrochloride Oral tablet
    http://www.bing.com/health/article/goldstandard-1500082247/Tramadol-Hydrochloride-Oral-tablet?q=Tramadol
    TRAMADOL (TRA ma dole) is a pain reliever. It is used to treat moderate to severe pain in adults.

    This medicine may be used for other purposes; ask your health care provider or pharmacist if you have questions.

    Maybe you should pass this information along to the nurse who knows ALL there is to know in her rush to diagnose someone she has never seen or met.

    I do not see in any one of those medications listed where Rose lied about a damn thing.

    I bet you McCabe will be so proud of what you have done. Virgie must be so proud of her supporters also. They have shown that they have no morals or are so dumb that they are willing to disregard the federal laws regarding medical information all in the attempt to show how bitter they are and how much they hate Howard Stern.

  147. DiamondGirl says:

    Just for the record for some of those idiots over at T……any drug spelling is from the linked sites. Maybe you should have looked it up for yourself before writing any comment on it ?

  148. hmm says:

    Thank You DG .I don’t read at topix but I can tell ya that I had a diabetic cat and he took the same insulin that humans take.I bought the insulin from my pharmacy so I know plus the vet told me and wrote a prescription for it.Their are lots of drugs that animals and humans both can take for different reasons.What a bunch of yoyo’s

  149. heath says:

    #147 @};- :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

    and that’s all I am going to say about that.

  150. DiamondGirl says:

    You know, I can’t stand the fact that some cannot see both sides of the coin. If this stuff was happening to them, anyone of them would be bitching a fit. When O’Quinn got sick in that Florida courtroom, they hated the fact that some people called him an alcoholic and made fun of his diabetes. But yet here they go. The majority of them feel that they have the right to give Karma back. Let me clue you in, you don’t. Someone with greater powers takes care fo that.

    One of them is complaining about one of us making fun of someone in a wheelchair. :wtf: Talk about a “Duh” moment. Are you not making fun of someone you don’t know? You think you have the facts but do you really? This bullshit is no better than a cyber stalker. Yes, payback is a bitch, but you know what, there is a legal system in the great nation of the USA in place and it just might be getting ready to bite someone in the ass and let me clue you in, it prolly won’t be anyone here at this site.

    Someone needs a reality check. Hey DD, reread those papers before they disappear off line. You are wrong as usual. There is also a notice to the clerk on page 4, that pages 4 & 5 are to be handled as confidentially and also pages 6 and 7. On page 8 there is propietrary mark as confidential notice.

  151. JMA says:

    DG [147] :applaud: :-bd ^:)^

  152. Sammy1 says:

    Rose, please check your email. Thak you.

  153. BEVERLY says:

    :mornincoffee: GOOD MORNING ALL –HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY **== As I was going through TMZ this morning,there was good old Mark Hatten,where ever did the Hollywood come from,it sounds ( so STUPID)trying to push a book he wrote about the love of his life.GAG GAG.To show you how pathetic this is,someone puts you in jail for 6 or 7 years,you tell the police the love of your life wanted to hire you to do away with Marshall,and in the next breath,claim Anna is my love,They say there nothing like a woman scorned,Hatten out did that saying,He is trying to get even by using Anna to sell a book,and make money off his love,I thought Shelly singing on Anna show turned my stomach,that was such a laugh,talk about making a fool of yourself,well MHatten singing,(my wish would be let SIMON at him)What better way to get even than TO MAKE MONEY OFF YOUR LOVE,Vergie and ,Mark should be very good friends by now,BOTH CLAIMING LOVE OF ANNA,AND BOTH TRYING TO GET AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN. **==

  154. Bewildered says:

    Happy Memorial Day..Blessings to those that have protected our freedom…past and present ^:)^

    Reading at that T site …well it’s an odd slice of humanity in general. And Mr. Hatten..what are the odds of his book being on the best seller list? Wonder also why Hollywood isn’t his home? If he is such a star and all?

  155. BEVERLY says:

    I hope this cropped up at the right time,Maybe Sizzles just helped McCabe LOSE his Bloggers case,would that be a hoot,Vergie friends sliting Vergie throat. =))

  156. Roxanne says:

    I’m pretty damn sure that Rose can now go after Sizzles for HIPA violations if she chooses to do so. Her sister the supposed nurse…. well there isn’t to much you can say about a nurse who would be so careless as to make a medical assumption based on very limited information is there? They are hateful people and to be them must be a miserable thing. I wonder how the wayward one feels about her undying support for her buddies now? Oh well. They all belong on VA’s side. They all think just a like.

  157. Beth says:

    God Bless **== our women and men **== who protect our Country in all of the Military Branches!
    I pray they are kept safe and return home soon. @};- for the brave who have died in protecting all of us here in the States.
    Prayers and love from the :heart: out to the families of the ‘fallen’ who have passed away.

    > This oil leak business is a mess that we will all pay for in some way or another for years to come…
    Unbelievable they cannot seem to get a handle on stopping it! Sad, very sad…
    ===============================
    Dear Rose, so sorry this has happened…
    I have only went to the ‘T’ thread where they post the docs (mostly ShePebbles or is it rocks/stones posts) BUT… WTH is she posting
    McAsshole’s (sizzles) link for? That makes her just as ‘low-class’ as McC’s number 1 follower! IMO
    > Maybe someone should also research the LAWS in the States they live in? (in link below)
    >> On top of sending the links and invasive posts to the lawyers… to show them HOW McC, PI’s assistant, ect have STIRRED these nutcases up with their LIES…
    (who knows… maybe this might be a new suit for McC, his minion ‘ghost site’ q’s place, and a few of the posters with no morals on the ‘T’ site?)
    >>> The SAME INFO should be sent to HC Courthouse and SHOW them what these morons have DONE! (with the information they LEAKED)
    *>*>*> MAYBE it will be HC COURTHOUSE that can file a suit against these STUPID, NO CLASS whatsoever posters who have gone off the deep end with their IMAGINED HATE of HKS and anyone who supports him in getting FAIR treatment in the Courts >> JUST like they would want if it were them! What complete immature, manic there (vas) actions are! IMO
    =====================================================
    http://www.virtualchase.com/articles/public_records_research.html
    “..Generally, personal or confidential information is private. A person’s Social Security number, date of birth, and medical, financial or insurance information is private. Likewise, confidential company information, such as unpatented formulas, designs or processes, or undisclosed business practices, is private. But researchers should know that private information sometimes becomes public. This means that you might be able to find it out – legally and ethically.
    Public records are government records. Generally, real estate records, court records, including bankruptcies, liens and judgments, professional licenses, intellectual property filings and business records, such as business filings, public company filings and UCCs, are public record. There may be exceptions to this rule. For example, juvenile court records generally are not public record.
    Federal or state law determines what is public record. Because the laws of the 50 states vary, what is public in one state may not be in another. For example, under Maine law, you may use voter registration records to locate a missing heir. But you may not access the records for this, or any other non-political purpose, in several other states. Similarly, you may search records at courthouses for misdemeanors or felonies, but the state’s criminal repository – the agency responsible for maintaining criminal histories – may bar access to official rapsheets.
    Staying on the right side of the law requires discovering whether the records you want are public in the relevant jurisdictions…”

  158. Beth says:

    Correction:
    What complete immature, manic THEIR actions are!

    OFF TO PUT THE PORK RIBS ON…
    HOPE EVERYONE HAS A WONDERFUL MEMORIAL DAY!

    REPOST: http://www.virtualchase.com/articles/public_records_research.html

    “..Generally, personal or confidential information is private.
    A person’s Social Security number, date of birth, and
    ** medical, **
    financial or insurance information is private…”

  159. DiamondGirl says:

    Well we know that a doctor cannot even discuss medical information with a spouse unless that spouse allows it. What was done was not only legally wrong but morally wrong as well. This just shows how low some of them will go to play a God. Maybe McCabe should inform his client how low his client’s supporters will go. At one time they posted where Stern’s parents lived and worked. They have researched Birkhead’s family. One of them called a poster’s job to cause them trouble at work. Now this with medical information.

    Bunch of immoral hippocrates. I really do wish that the person who posted it on the courthouse site, gets fired. WTG Sizzles !! In the very least Rose, I would push for that.

    Hey Beth? Can this also go Federal?

  160. hmm says:

    I don’t know but there was a so called nurse that posted with that woman from Florida,who’s husband was a retired cop. I think and she had to go look things up.Some nurse and from the way I read she was inaccurate anyway.That whole bunch that went to that special site are a bunch of nuts led by the woman from hell down there in Texas and Rose should not trust anything she says or does.This whole thing just reeks of someone not following the court orders and trying to hide that fact.Maybe their so called special computer person can look and see if McCabe did it.If he is innocent he won’t care after all he is paying the man

  161. JMA says:

    IMO those who think they are untouchable for their dirty deeds via this saga need to be shown they are NOT! Regardless if Rose’s medical info was filed in error it’s very easy to prove. Sizzle posted her *paid* documents in order to further ridicule Rose. Shouldn’t be hard to put a stop to this sick and demented woman’s malicious behavior! Point/Example…she even says in one of her post it’s all about *KARMA* :yeah: :whatever:

  162. Beth says:

    DG, I believe it is a Federal Offense. http://epic.org/privacy/medical/
    “Medical Record Privacy”
    “Federal Law”
    “HIPAA”
    “The HIPAA “http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaa/finalreg.html” (45 CFR Parts 160 and 164) provides the “federal floor” of privacy protection for health information in the United States, while allowing more protective (“stringent”) state laws to continue in force. Under the Privacy Rule, protected health information (PHI) is defined very broadly. PHI includes individually identifiable health information related to the past, present or future physical or mental health or condition, the provision of health care to an individual, or the past, present, or future payment for the provision of health care to an individual. Even the fact that an individual received medical care is protected information under the regulation.
    The Privacy Rule establishes a federal mandate for individual rights in health information, imposes restrictions on uses and disclosures of individually identifiable health information, and provides for civil and criminal penalties for violations. The complementary Security Rule includes standards for protection of health information in electronic form.”
    ===================================================
    Blaming it on the Court House in HC is NOT a very good excuse to justify the culpability of their actions of going to the trouble to:
    > pay for the document,
    >then POST the download for everyone to see and access…
    What a IDIOT McCabe Sizzles is and so is Shestone who also REPOSTED it on another ANS thread for others to access! They both should be held accountable legally for these illegal actions.

    * Somehow, I cannot fathom ANY court clerk making a mistake like this….. even a ‘new’ person must be told these laws. This was done on PURPOSE IMO…
    Someone’s brilliant idea most likely… IYKWIM
    What? Did he owe ‘q’ another release? It is her that informed McSizzles-Ass they were on there wasn’t it?
    If I am correct on that scenario, Mcsizzles should have taken a clue as to why ‘q’ did not make the illegal move on posting private medical information… They should pay for what they have done and now continue to do > by posting more defamatory posts on Rose and trying to justify that she deserves this? Stupid people!

    For heaven’s sake! These people who worked in the hospital got FIRED for a quick glance…
    On this link; http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20003669-504083.html
    “Apr 29, 2010 … Over the years, UCLA Medical Center has fired several employees for peeking at confidential medical records for such prominent patients as..”

  163. DiamondGirl says:

    Fanciulla… you have got to be really naive to think that I give two shits what virgie feels about anyone. She didn’t give a rats ass when she lied under oath, oh the shame, being an retired police officer and all. I wonder how a mother cannot remember which side of the head her son shot himself in? I wonder how she figures that she can be slandered with the TRUTH. It was her life after all and she lived it. She married her 1st cousin, while not illegal in the state of Texas, it does have some ewwwww factors to it. McCabe stated that the marriage was never consumated, now did virgie and her cousin spouse commit insurance fraud? Hey the kid with the future step brother… no big deal. They didn’t know that their respective parents would get married and get it on. Now on the other hand being joyful that a young daughter would marry a man old enough to be her great grandfather is questionable. Also is questionable is the stated fact that virgie did all that she could do to help Anna. NO she didn’t. I can’t imagine what Anna felt when she found out her mother sold the rights to Danile’s memorial service to the highest bidder. I can’t imagine the anger that Anna felt when she founs out her mother sold Daniel’s pictures instead of giving them to her or even making copies of them.

    Tell me Fan, if you had gone down to the Bahamas, fearing for your daughters safety, would you pose for a picture on a grave or hop your ass over to the nearest police station and create such a scene that the police would have to check to make sure Anna was ok? That is where I found fault with the woman at first. Now the list has grown.

    So you sit wherever the hell you are and judge all the “Sternies” on what you THINK you know because frankly, you don’t know shit. It has ALWAYS been my opinion that Stern enabled her but he did not MURDER her. It has ALWAYS been my opinion that Dannielynn deserves to be with her FATHER.

    Anna’s life was a freaking trainwreck before Stern was involved in her life. Hell, keep up with the facts here. She admitted she was a prescription drug addict before Stern was involved in her life. Stern had no control over Anna and you are delusional if you believe he did. ANYONE that tried to control Anna was kicked to the curb. Even Moe ( as honest as he is… cough cough) has said as much.

    You think Stern should have prevented that trainwreck? Tell me what her mother did to prevent it since it was happening for years. Please do not mention Betty Ford, for crying out loud, they didn’t even know her mother was alive since it was ANNA who told them virgie was dead.

  164. JMA says:

    Beth [163] great info :-bd and I agree in reference to the link to Rose medical/depo info being provided. No doubt it did not take any arm twisting either from QV to get someone else to do her dirty work, as we all know the majority of VAS are willing participants.

  165. raven says:

    Rose’s list of medications shouldn’t be listed anywhere unless she chooses to list it herself. That would include here. :gum:

  166. DiamondGirl says:

    Just to make it clear, my post was in moderation. I could not release it to be posted. Any questions?

  167. JMA says:

    DG [166] Nope no questions from me just an addition to your post…which meant in order for the post to be posted it had to be OK’d!!

  168. heath says:

    #168…lol I understood that….

    sorry guys we aren’t keeping up with posts as fast as usual….been busy.

    ~o) be patient with me please…I miss you Ken….. ^:)^

    #166 they aren’t on the site. Not going to be either. They are private. :gum: ohh I like that bubble gum chewing commentator…… :gum:

    It is just showing more people their true colours and a lot of people will be looking to pass the blame around on this one…..shame the Judge will get to read Topix. What a way to introduce that cess pool to a law court…

    Protection Order People….

  169. Beth says:

    JMA, Exactly, Miss Justice!! :wink:

    raven, ‘understood’, (the earlier post is what you’re referring to here? the medications listed, defined.. ITA)
    yet, that could be removed if owner so chooses to… jmho on that one.

  170. Rose says:

    Beth I saw a beautiful show today about Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery on HBO, it was moving.. I cried thinking of all the lost young lives… Kind of puts this BS as it should be BS… yes the records will come down, and yes the posts will be deleted on other sites… but the families who have lost sons and daughters and shared their feelings while visiting their love ones graves, was heart wrenching and put the world in a “right place of what is really important today”… The BS can be handled legally…

    BTW are the papers up on more than one free site that Sizzles (kind of sound like cooking an egg on a hot street or bacon frying to me). If so we will need that link also to show the Court this slip up caused in…. Yes there are laws in Texas that mirror the federal laws… You know I downloaded some papers that were suppose to remain confidential that related to filings in the paternity case about DL in California… I bought those records read through them and no one will ever see them on this site… just because you can “get it quick before it is gone” does not make it right… personal integrity of knowing this was wrong has to be a guiding factor in life.

  171. BEVERLY says:

    ~o) Good Morning All—As I am enjoying my first cup of coffee,I wanted to make a comment to Sizzles,Rose will take care of the court clerk indiscrimination,and whoever else is involved,I just want to say to you and your friends,”Do not pat yourselfs on the back,for a sneaky job done,you only look like what you are,and that is what was said by a Attorney, as he threw your comments in the trash,”A bunch of trash”And as I see it,I hope to hell,you just SCREWED McCabe,and Vergie,and Sizzles,you claiming to know so much about Vergie and the up to date going on. seems to me WE HAVE A CONSPIRACY TO DEFAME,which I hope is presented to the court.Maybe noW the judge will understand,who is being DEFAMED,and by the way Sizzles,the respect for Rose goes a lot deeper that medical records,something you will NEVER understand :mornincoffee:

  172. Beth says:

    *** Rose,
    So very well stated! [171] This war is as disheartening as the Viet Nam war. I am so extremely upset for the young lives lost or maimed forever. They and their families will have a lasting impact of sorrow due to their service to the US. It makes me cry for them also.

    I can promise you I did not download that confidential file by Mcsizzles, it is none of my or anyone else’s business to look at… nothing whatsoever to do with the FAKE CASE, imo.

    Edited for Privacy :)

  173. Beth says:

    * SPAMMED *
    Sorry, I believe that link might have thrown me into spam…

    I wrote the other post at 6:45 a.m. & jumped in the shower, just noticed while closing out the windows it had got stuck…
    Thanks, and I hope everyone has a good day. (or a better one than usual)

  174. Beth says:

    LOL I now see it has been cleared…
    Yes, thanks for not putting up the link.
    After I put it there w/ that post, I had second thoughts.
    Should have put it in an email to you. Sorry dear.
    Well, NP – have a good day all!

  175. BEVERLY says:

    BETH–I do not know if you are old enough to remember te draft,there was a time when they would NEVER take two people from the same family,I admire all the men and women who serve,but I am also very upset how some are treated upon end of duty.There should NOT be one homeless vet,vets should not have to fight for benefits ,and when I heard a woman was dishonorably discharged because he refused to leave her child,for she had no family member to take the child,I get well over the boiling point,They could have said,when you have someone we will expect you to return to duty,or you can finish out your time in two or three years,but to give her a dishonorable discharge,that stinks.

  176. DiamondGirl says:

    Here I go again. I did not copy the link but I did verify that it was at the court’s web site as claimed. After reading about the drugs being available at pet -meds and the claim that Rose must be lying because said “nurse” stated Rose could not possibly be as sick as she claimed to be, I wanted to post the listed medicines, the links to where I got my information and some of the information as to why these drugs are prescribed. My rather lengthy post was in moderation and I was not the one to release it to be viewed and I cannot delete it either.

    I will debate with anyone the truth, however I will not post at Topix any longer for my own reasons and haven’t posted there is a long while. Frankly, I can’t stand the majority of the lies and the bullshit that is being posted and pulled by those virgie supporters. I didn’t even care for some of the bullshit that one of the Stern supporters posted a few months ago. You all know whom I speak about.

    Since last night/this morning it was posted that this entire bullshit has been about 1.6 billion dollars. Nope, it never was. Anna was never entitled to the entire worth of Marshall. The very most she was allowed was a little under half a billion. While it is a lot of money, let’s keep the damn facts straight. Oh, didn’t you know that Stern waived his fee as executor of the estate? Missed that part? But as one of the many lawyers involved in fighting for the money, he was entitled to his percentage just as O’Quinn was entitled to his breast implant clients percentage. Damn shame he over charged them by millions though.

    As far Anna’s Bahama’s estate, it can only be maintained. Prolly lived in by Stern and Birkhead. It can’t be sold. That government won’t allow a thing to be done with it until Dannielynn becomes of age. It is Dannielynn’s. The Bahamian govenment knows this. Oh this also has been known since Anna died. As to the amount of cash (if any) in the Bahamas, it is NONE of OUR business.

  177. hmm says:

    Right on DG Bev Yes I remember when you couldn’t draft two from the same family or the last living son I think it was can’t remember now.Yes it made me sick when our Vietnam vets came home and how some were treated, yet others because of family conections were treated as heros.No matter what you think about any of the wars our men and women died during them fighting for all and should be honored for that alone.

  178. JMA says:

    DG [177] You owe no one an explanation for what you posted and why you posted it. We here know why and that’s what matters IMO. Point is…it was approved! The Troll’s are only spewing their BS in order to cover their comrades [Sizzle] ignorant ass.

    As for Anna’s Estate in the Bahamas, they know all this but feel they are entitled to know how much money is there. As you said and I agree 100%, it’s not any of our business [which none of us make a point of wanting to know] and it most certainly is none of theirs. It is none of their business where any money is, how much there is, how it’s being spent and for them to make claims that LB and or HKS are on some sort of spending spree with money from the Estate is bullshit! Where is their proof? Oops they have none cause they do not and will never have access to that kind of info.

    It’s like their hope that VA or anyone else will someday bring Anna & Daniel’s bodies back to the US…it’s never gonna happen the Bahamians believe once someone is buried, they stay buried.

  179. Rose says:

    Beverly thanks for the kind words… the lawyers of course have all agreed that this is covered by the Protective Order and of course it is also protective under HIPAA. The O’Quinn law firm (they noticed the deposition and paid for it) have taken the lead in getting the paperwork to the Court today ASAP… however even though all of the attorneys agree this needs to be off the court site ASAP, the pro se defendants have not responded and so it will be up to the judge if he takes it down today or schedules a hearing to if the pro se defendants have an opportunity to object and make a case as to why it should be public. I have asked that the Motion asked the Court to take it down and seal it to prevent any further damage to me personally and legally if the judge requires a hearing and that the hearing be expedited and conducted by phone.

  180. BEVERLY says:

    Hmm—I do not know weather it is my age.or I just have time to look at life with a clear eye instead of a working eye,were I was always to tired to care.You will never know,how watching the Hollyood (stars ) make me ill,Hard working people losing there homes or jobs,not enough money in the towns to pay teachers cops firemen,and to watch night after night bobbel heads,party party party,young productive men and women losing there life on a war that goes on and on.I get sick hearing some young punk,has a million dollar home for being filthy mouth .I often wondered how anyone can come back from serving and be normal,to be made to kill someone has to take a toll on someone. :rollpin:

  181. JMA says:

    Rose [180] thanks for updating us on what is going on :roserocks:

  182. DiamondGirl says:

    I have never in my life witnessed adults acting like the posters do at “T”. Wait until the court reads some of the childish bullshit that some have posted at that site and all by the very supporters of Virgie. McCabe is mostly likely shaking his head at the very words he is reading written by pepole who support his client.

    Unreal.

  183. Rose says:

    I have put up a new thread with last week’s documents and will put up the filing today that Neil McCabe is doing to get my medical information removed from the public record.

  184.  

Weather forecast by WP Wunderground & Denver Snow Removal

Member of the Boxxet Network of Blogs, Videos and Photos Best of Anna Nicole Smith