All Things Anna Nicole Smith Newest Filings in South Carolina and Harris County Texas
Posted by Rose in All Things Anna Nicole Smith, Amanda Bush, Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith's Will, Art Harris, Art Harris Exclusive, Art Harris Scoop, Bald Truth Exclusive, Bonnie Stern, Bryan Cave LLP, CBS-ET, Celebrity Trials, Charles "Chip" Babcock, Chip Babcock, Debunking the myths on ALL cases related to Anna Nicole, Diana Marshall, Entertainment Tonight, Ford Shelley, G Ben Thompson, Harry Susman, Harvey Levin, High Proflie Trials, Horizons law suit, Howard K Stern, Larry Birkhead, Lin Wood, Luke Lantta, Lyndal Harrington, Nancy Grace, Nancy Hamilton, Neil McCabe, Nicole Jennings Wade, Rose Turner, Susman and Godfrey, TMZ, TMZ.com, Teresa Stephens, The O'Quinn Law Firm, Virgie Arthur, What legal responsiblity do bloggers haveWe have new papers in South Carolina on the Anna Nicole Smith Estate vs. G. Ben Thompson, Ford Shelley et. al There are also new papers in Harris County Texas involing Virgie Arthur vs. Howard K. Stern filed by CBS.
I will be listing here in the download section with links as soon as they are coded in.
We are investigating allegations that Art Harris hired himself out to change public opinion on a case without making that disclosure. If this is true after I complete the reading of these allegations as a neutral blogger always looking for the truth through facts and documents I will have some things to say about any “journalist” or blogger selling their services without making a disclosure and then claiming to be “unbiased” and “seeking the truth” through hard work with an open mind. I think most of you know my personal feelings about infotainment passing itself off as news, so these accusations if true I find alarming.
This is an open discussion thread but please play nice with each other. Each of you do not need any defending as all of you are intelligent and handle yourself with wisdom, insight and sharing your take on things. We will be opening a forum where you can say anything you want in a free for all, but please keep it off of the blog.
TEXAS FILINGS IN HARRIS COUNTY VIRGIE ARTHUR VS. HOWARD K. STERN, TMZ, ET AL.
November 17, 2009 CBS’ Response to Virgie Arthur’s Motion for Continuance on CBS’ Motion for Summary Judgment before any discovery, pending before the 80th District Court in Harris County on submission on November 16.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2667.
SOUTH CAROLINA FEDERAL COURT FILINGS IN THE ESTATE OF ANNA NICOLE SMITH VS. G. BEN THOMPSON, STANCIL FORD SHELLEY ET. AL.
November 17, 2009 Stancil Ford Shelley and Howard K. Stern as the Executor of the Estate of Anna Nicole Smith filed their consent for the Court to allow Susan M. Brown’s Motion to withdraw as counsel for G. Ben Thompson. Stern’s agreement to allow Brown to withdraw is contingent on Brown not being able to attempt to avoid jurisdiction in the South Carolina federall court since Anna Nicole Smith’s Estate has filed a Motion for Leave to add Brown as well as Gaither Thompson II, Gina Thompson Shelley and Melody Thompson of which the Court has not ruled on as of November 17.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2668.
TEXAS FILINGS IN TARRANT COUNTY OF STEPHENS VS. STEPHENS ET. AL.
November 16, 2009 Nelda “Rose” Turner’s Notice of Related cases, Special Exception and Original Answer in Tarrant County to Teresa Stephens First Supplemental Complaint.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2669.
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Rose ~~ interesting find concerning Art Harris, I would like to know if these allegations are true or not hope you can find that out for us.
A new angle on Art Harris or old stuff dredged up???
I think most journo’s who work for a media company are biased the way the media company wants it to be… ie Murdoch press, FOX news etc..think elections and what media company likes what party etc.
Brand new accusations Heath but I am not going to comment until I can sort through the documents and get a feel for why???
Staggering if it is true and for me as a unbiased blogger seeking the truth and learning through all of you a blow in confidence of “journalist”, especially if one I respected has gone to infotainment or to gang up to help one side over the other… just staggering.
Not to mention the implications this could have on the Harris County Suit of which I am accused of conspiring with Art Harris… I will have a lot to say in an editorial if I find this is true and can find documents to support these allegations.
Must have something to do with the bar complaint against KPicazio. Art that is.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5686083.php
Bunch of documents at this link.
Rose [4] OMG I never thought about the impact it could have on you due to you are being accused of conspiring with him. Yeah if I were you, I would be looking into this for sure.
Damn…. I don’t like to play nice sometimes.
trina [6] I have only read the Initial Complaint so far and OMG some of it sounds like what Opri did in reference to Larry in the media and everyone and their brother. Also reminded me of a certain someone involved [not an Attorney though] with the O’Quinn Law Firm is doing you know corresponding and sharing personal information with psycho Bloggers . Wow, it’s like déjà vu!
I am going with my firm belief in Art Harris,Is someone trying to muddy Harris for a reason.which Vergie lawsuit tends to make me believe.I will only believe if Art says is true.I have see to much of trying to dirty everyone that has stood up for Howard,I know Art has done a lot of investigative reporting on the Cumming case.WILL HOLD JUDGEMENT.
Beverly [10] good point yeah we have seen a lot of dirt playing haven’t we.
Hey Rox ~~ that comment you left elsewhere cracked me up, hubby was wondering what the hell I was laughing at.
#4 – Just a thought – Pound the walls or pillows but be wary of what you say publicly.
#6 – Re Harris
http://imgsrv.thesky973.com/image/wsky/UserFiles/File/Object_1429486_0.PDF
JMA
It was all in good fun.
DW [12] That is why she is spending so much time validating all the stuff and getting the papers.
Roxanne ~~ yeah I know it was. Ha-Ha trust me I’ve used that term many times myself ;-)
DesertWalker [13] thanks for that link now I see Art’s involvement.
This seems an interesting case and we are sure used to the ways of bloggers going crazy..
I must admit to not going to Arts site in a long while.
Good golly! And I thought there were nuts following the ANS story! I can’t seem to see where Art did anything wrong, but I skimmed thru. Seems to me it’s mostly about bloggers and such.
If the cases that seem never ending, come to some conclusion, I’m getting a new library card. Think I’ll stick with books.
#9 JMA “Wow, it’s like déjà vu” Man doesn’t it. I can’t even digest all of this.. I remember someone telling me before that web sleuth had a “lot of blog wars” if I thought what I got dragged into was bad and that you can find a blog war any day of the week… My concern is what it could do to Harris county… I am going to have to read all of the documents very slowly and then do extra research… My only concern is did this Opri like attorney pay Harris…. then that could tie into Texas and allegations of conspiracy and might even give VA’s ppl some traction….
#10 Beverly what if you had absolute concrete proof that Art Harris stabbed HKS and his whole family in the back??? Used and discarded and all for a buck??? So much behind the scenes that is so dirty but a big reason I no longer like or trust Art is because of what he did do to HKS and family, it makes me physically ill.
Ok folks this is my first day out of bed for a whole day, and I have so much more research to do on Art’s involvement if ANY that could hurt the Texas case… I am off for tonight to eat, watch TV, and rest.. OH and I had 2 half cups of coffee this morning drinking it very slowly… and OMG was it good… you can’t beat a good cup of coffee… LOL
OH and one more thing don’t ever P.O. your lawyer, the dirt both sides fired in this complaint and then gave it to the public is mind boggling alone. In most states bar complaints are NEVER released so an innocent lawyer is not labeled an “opri” or the likes so one thing I have to research is who released all of this, why and what the hell does it have to do with a missing child?
Ok now I am gone poof for tonight
ROSE—–I quess I would say,it is time for me to grow up,and face reality.Rose,my heart would sink.The EVIL Howard and his family have endured,is so far beyond anything I could ever in my wildest dreams think could exist.I also would do what I have been doing,pray to Amighty Father,that those who hurt others for the (buck)get there (JUST REWARDS)Lord,I get upset when my faith in someone,is misplaced.
Rose [20] in reference to “did this Opri like attorney pay Harris” that was my thought as well she seems to kinda put Art on a pedestal doesn’t she you know that whole ‘two time award winning journalist’ blah, blah, blah.
Rose honestly I do not see how you could be faulted for something Harris may have done. I guess what I mean is how can you be tied into any dealings Art may or may not have with others especially this latest one [Kim Picazio] is so recent.
Would this be why he really didn’t want his computer disk drives looked at??
heath [25] good question, hmm!
642. The CBS response to McCabe’s delay tactic Motion for Continuance is at the HC site:
http://www.hcdistrictclerk.com/Edocs/Public/ViewFilePage.aspx?ViewAsType=PDF&TodaysDate=11/18/2009&PublicImageNbr=43894026&CourtID=080
As expected, CBS points out the Motion is moot since VA filed a surreply the same day she filed a Motion for Continuance for 30 days in which to write a surreply. Moreover, the surreply had nothing new to say.
CBS asks the Court (paraphrasing) to move along and rule on its Motion for Summary Judgement.
So, no CBS, which means no AH; no unlawful snooping (courtesy of 1st COA) into anyone’s personal computers which means no Special Appearance defendants; which means the entire ‘bloggers’ case is at a put up or shut up point as it should have been the day after it was filed.
Posted at 11:20PM on Nov 18th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/16/larry-birkhead-anna-nicole-smith-howard-k-stern-drugs-sandeep-kapoor-khristine-eroshevich/43#comments#ixzz0XHMMpFNM
#24 JMA, I am saying the publicity of this lawyer/Harris relationship of conspiring to spin a sad and tragic missing child story, to make the mother look good and the father not… is playing with fire for a “journalist”… it could just give some energy over all to the Harris County case NOT to me but just another brick in the wall so to say to keep the lawyer(Barth and Wood) conspired with ART and allegedly with HKS… could show a pattern which can be used to show that… it is just more steam to keep things going and it does make me sick.
#25 Heath I would bet money there are reasons Harris “replaced that hard drive” and then apparently lied to his lawyers… and now ……….. I have no idea what this is going to do now… My bet is Jackson Walker won’t try to get him out of trouble in Florida if he crossed the line from journalism to paid media consultant and then went on shows and radio and wrote to spin this for the side paying him… it is just not ethical IMO….
Good Morning Everyone,When the bloggers case is brought to a end,”and soon I hope”everyone will go on there merry way to the next case,but there is a big problem Two women are left with police records,there names all over the news,McCabe who is representing Vergie Arthur,has spared no expense.in harming anyone who they thought got in there way.The harm done by McCabe and his very selfish self centered client cannot be erased,just like the harm done to Anna by the same ,self centered selfish mother of Anna Nicole Smith Marshall.Janet Jackson said in a interview,they,(family tryed to help Michael with a intervention,but Michael refused,I have not heard and still waiting for what Vergie did to help her Daughter.As far as bloggers conspiring to ruin Vergie reputation,if the court by now has not come to the conclusion,Vergie and her Attorneys destroyed there clients reputation,than play the latest Geraldo interview,mommie who cannot shut her mouth,”If you love someone you would get them off drugs”JUDGE,ASK WHAT VERGIE DID FOR HER DAUGHTER,then you know who destroyed her own reputation,In a time,when Vergie should have been griving Daniel and Anna death,she was down in NY to party hardy,for a book,that belittle her daughter,NO BLOGGER CAN EVER COME CLOSE,TO HARMING VERGIE,AS VERGIE HARMED HERSELF
Imo, the most interesting “brand new accusations” here are that AH stabbed HKS and his family in the back.
Rose [28] thank you for explaining that for me.
Good Morning Beverly ~~ yes let’s all hope this ridiculous case is over very soon. I agree because of this nonsense it has left two people with arrest records not to mention being ridiculed, degraded along with their personal lives being smeared all over the Internet.
As for any of us getting an answer backed up with proof to what VA did to help Anna, ha we all best not hold our breath!
trina [30] yes I agree furthermore I am interested in the how and why.
#30-Trina
Morning all.
I agree, Trina. The only thing that would give the fears about AH any legs would be if AH and CB’s attorney had a contract agreement for AH to act as a paid media consultant. That official representation by AH would have needed to be disclosed. Probably not because of legal or even ethical reasons, but because of perception by the public. Without a contract, AH was doing what all journalists do — getting on the good side of those involved in a case they are covering.
All journalists lean one way or the other in their reporting, all journalists “buddy up” to get the exclusive, and we’ve all complained about journalists being fairer or more accurate to how WE viewed their reporting of a story. For us, or the legal system, to expect AH or any other journalist to remain detached from the very people who can provide details and information is folly.
Not to change the subject, but … smile … I’m not clear on the legal deadlines and scheduling anymore for the ANS cases … has anyone been able to keep up with it?
#32 DesertWalker I “think” the calendar at the bottom of page one on the first page of the site is current on all of the ANS cases…
You are right we all bring our biases, we all lean one way or the other, however media consultants are not “unbiased seeking the truth journalists” there is a big difference… Just like now I am a tad bias about AH because I know what he did to HKS, his sister etc. up close and personal and although he should never have had to turn over his hard drive (I asked him at the time why JW attorneys had not filed an appeal on the newly enacted Texas Journalist shield that went in to effect a day or 2 before his lawyers insisted he turn over his computers. AH told me he wanted to fight it but the CBS lawyers did not want to spend that extra money at the time or that is what AH told me.), then only to have the day the Special Master named as the significant day about AH’s computer hard drive backed me up and made me dive into phone and email records as to the day AH and I had a long personal talk about losing the law firm he, Bonnie, Lyndal and I had. CBS’ lawyers are now having to fight for AH in appellate courts because if they dumped him for not being honest with them they could not represent CBS… it will be interesting to see if CBS is dismissed in this Summary Judgment if JW will drop AH like a hot potato as he indicated to me on May 9 would happen unless I pulled CBS into the case. It is all just way too much and something I am going to have to do some research on, make sure I have my i-s dotted, my t-s crossed and talked to a couple of ppl close to the HKS situation and then do an editorial with facts I can back up…
#33 – Understood Rose. I just have to wonder if doing an Editorial on this subject is in either your best interest or that of the other defendants … given where the case stands at this particular point in time.
Since I’m pontificating this morning … I might add that I wonder the same about comments that are being posted over on “T” by “all sides” as well … It appears to be a new blogging world out there now with new scrutiny and unpredictable rules. I would hate to see any more of the people I talk with suffer needlessly in their personal lives because they became overly interested in cases they were following. Thanks, Mom — I hope your saying of, “A Word To The Wise Is Sufficient” will cause the desired reconsideration. Have a blessed Thanksgiving everyone.
It could be that AH had a media consultant contract with KPicazio for the very reason of what is happening in TX. Jmo.
I want to say it is not personal with AH, he was my mentor and teacher from April 2007 until some time in Dec. 2007. I did a lot of his research for him on multiple subjects he was following not just the ANS stuff and I value what he taught me. During the time he was so sick in the fall of 2007, I was more than happy to be his “editor” because of the pain meds he was on before surgery… so I do appreciate what he did… however, I also saw what he did later………. A lot of the reasons of what happened to BS, me and even LH was as a direct result of AH’s actions. If I had not vouched for him the other 3 of us probably would not have lost our legal team…. What happened to BS and LH was MUCH worse then what has happened to me… so AH’s actions has always astounded me that ppl who trusted him in the HKS camp got stabbed by AH when it suited AH… I guess if that is ethical journalism then I am happy to have never been there… if AH did what the bar complaint is alleging then he is no better than RC to me…
The bar complaint against KPicazio was dismissed. Wasn’t it?
#36-Trina … can you “think out loud” a bit more about the connection?
I see no connection.
Rose – you know the inner workings and conversations and we all don’t, so you’re questioning things we, and your readers, have no information about and no real right to know at this point. Even if you do research and talk to some of the people involved, you won’t have the answers you’re really seeking. When the legalities are over you’ll be able to talk with AH. Then and only then will you really understand his thinking. And only then will you be able to decide why he took the actions he did and whether he was morally and/or ethically wrong. Those are my thoughts, anyway.
#40- Trina, you were saying that maybe AH had a media consultant contract with KPicazio for the very reason of what is happening in TX. I just didn’t follow what you were considering.
DesertWalker [41] well I happen to think your thoughts make a lot of sense ;-)
Just a little note…
I don’t and probably will never understand the legalities of this suit but many of you have helped me understand enough of it by sharing your knowledge of the court system and case filings and for that, I thank each and every one of you.
I’m enjoying your posts DW..here and ‘abroad’
What got me to wondering, as you said, that those you have posted with for years, where did the self righthousness set in? If the concern is so great for children that end up on Nancy Grace type shows, why do they wait to share their input? Why not take a Big Brother/Sister stance and do something for children in their own neighborhoods? Surely there are enough living, breathing lost souls that need someone to care?
#41 DW you are probably right, another co-defendant and myself are going to write something about what it feels like to be a pro se defendant in all of this and how it feels like being a ping pong ball among the giants of $1,000 an hour lawyers.. it is not pretty… LOL
However just here we are discussing if RC sold out for money she is no longer a credible journalist… I am saying if AH has done the same that puts him with RC… he once told me to say you are an Emmy award winning journalist as RC did in her book promotions, that is like giving out chewing gum rappers as most television journalist have a few Emmy awards especially if they were one of many working on a project. At the time he told me that is was because I felt the Emmy winning RC was impressive, perhaps he has learned form RC to promote himself with Emmy Award winning….
I just hate to see something from Florida with allegations of conspiring for “pay” to spin as a P. R. or media consultant might do of giving some additional fuel in the Harris county case where the conspiracy seems to be a big deal (and no I am not aware of any conspiracy).
I think most of us just want this to end and it will end if and when CBS says a settlement is cheaper than the mounting legal fees that is the goal of both sides in this.
However I agree with JMA if I was not a defendant in this I have thoroughly enjoyed reading the Motions, Responses, Replies etc. filed in this case. It is not often you see the best with unlimited money to spend do dueling banjo filings… it has been a real education for me and one I have enjoyed even being thrown into this as I have to obtain state jurisdiction.
And that is the only reason you and the other pro se defendants have been added. That was giggled upon so long ago.
Wondering if these motions that keep piling up..so legal fees can be paid by the loser? What a way to make a payday.
Also if these lawyers were ever involved in competitive sports? Instead of touchdowns, and hoops, the war is played with words. Wonder if they get an adrenaline rush if they think they’ve ‘hit the mark’ with each filing? It really isn’t about ‘helping the little guy’ it’s about ‘the green’. No wonder lawyers have such a bad rep.
Bewildered [44] I agree that was an excellent post written by DW [elsewhere] but of course it was followed with the usual negativity. IMO many of those posters over there are not interested in any of the cases at hand, nope all they are interested in is snooping into other bloggers personal lives, it’s disgusting.
DW ~~ I agree with you and ask the same question, how do they sleep at night once their computers are turned off especially knowing all the dirty deeds they have done and continue to do.
Rose [45] you hit the nail right on the head with this “thrown into this as I have to obtain state jurisdiction” without you and the two other defendants this case would not have seen a Texas courtroom hell no courtroom for that matter. Oh and we all know why it got as far as it did for the Plaintiff or should I say the Plaintiff’s Council, does friends in high places ring a bell.
#46 Bewildered the answers to all of your questions is YES Babcock used to be a sports broadcaster at college even.
I would hope that each of you might one day see the “real” behind the scenes of two powerful law firms… O’Q had friends in high places but so does Babcock… he is openly called “the hire gun” sits on the SCOT advisory committee and is chair of it so they all know him by “Chip”, and he is the go to guy here in Texas for any appellate judge who needs the “best” to save them… so he has a few cards to call in as well if needed… although the SCOT one judge that used Babcock has recused himself from this case… but still as the rest of us sit back and watch the filings it is about money and power and dueling banjos especially with CBS and how much money do they throw at this and do they have the staying power to see the O’Q law firm dissolved… this is almost getting to the courtroom version of “chicken” to the CBS lawyers and the VA lawyers…
And as I just said that I have new state papers that just came in from one side with the other side saying they will be filing new ones today also…
#43-JMA … don’t go jumpin’ to conclusions
#44-Bewildered,
Beats me why I decided to really read back over there this morning to see if I’d missed anything important. Guess I didn’t scroll through fast enough this time. I can’t even fathom that the same people I’ve posted with for so long have sunk to those depths. Sure, we all lose our patience at times but that hatefulness goes on day after day now. Don’t get me started again … I’ve said more than I should have already.
#45 – Aw Rose, call me an idiot, and you may be right, but I have to believe that on some level all of us, even those who support the other side, have heavy hearts about what ALL of the defendants in the cases are going through. Even those who have high powered representation have to be scared. Let’s face it, each defendant feels they’re in the right and each is fearful the Courts won’t find it that way. We may have a soft spot for a particular defendant or defendants but all the defendants have to be questioning the past and their decisions. Being a per se defendant adds even more fear and vulnerability. We know that sometimes even innocent people are found culpable.
As far as RC and AH … each has decided the guidelines they’ll follow in their journalistic careers. They’ll have to answer to their peers and readership as to whether their guidelines were professional and credible or not. As to the specific advice you were given … we hear advice everyday. It’s up to us to decide whether the person offering it is worthy to give valuable advice or not. THEN we decide if this bit of advice their offering is worthy of taking to heart. That’s why our folks taught us to make our own personal guidelines in life. It’s helps us keep checks and balances.
If you react now out of anger or frustration ….??
So many love your blogs but sometimes the publicity they achieve may be contrary to your best interest in the legal proceedings. Keep your overall goal in mind and don’t let the little things distract you from that. Since I seem to be into platitudes today … This old lady’s advice would be … don’t throw out the baby with the bath water. Keep your cool.
Having said that, JMA and I and all your readers would sure, by golly, enjoy reading a cool, calm, collected, detached and analytical review of the journalism vs media consultant position and the different ramifications those positions have on a case.
(I even crack me up sometimes)
47-JMA … some don’t have to worry about it … they never turn their computers off
No DW…it needed to be said. For those of us on the outside, looking in, it just makes you shake your head or as my name says..Bewildered
Can I do armchair psycology from a distance..you betcha. But when I do that, it makes me sad for the human condition and what we’ve become. As in the other case that Art’s reported on, the blogger that threw herself in the media to answer questions, wants to write a book? , spilling things online as either fact or fictional, more so flying by the seat of her pants. Reminds me of another that did the same. And it’s happening again, as another poor child hits the news and the saviors are picking at the bones already. Just makes me sad.
Aw Bewildered … I couldn’t agree more.
Well,E-Entertainment was running the life and death of Anna Nicole this afternoon.and as I was listening again.I heard Vergie criticize,her daughter (again) by holding a commitment ceremony after Daniel death,Vergie complains Anna is showing no respect for her son,Again that BIG MOUTH of Vergie;I quess with TWO DEATHS her daughter and Grandson,Vergie felt she was showing respect by attending a book signing party,that belittled her daughter,Vergie loved the book.
* GREAT INFORMATIVE POST Regarding the NY Case—
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“..Hachette’s insurer is obligated to cover the costs of defense and settlement for Cosby unless Cosby ‘fires’ them and takes on the costs herself. The criminal and Cosby civil cases do not overlap in their subject matter. Here’s a refresher (my previous 3 part post) on what will be heard in NYC if Cosby goes to trial. Recall, Cosby has NO witnesses that have supported her; the Cosby case unredacted depos even show that people Cosby ‘quoted’ or alluded to are upset that she made their lies sound more preposterous than they already were.
What will the Cosby Jury see and hear?
Short Answer: What Judge Chin allows into evidence. Only the statements DENIED Summary Judgement (to Cosby) will have testimony and exhibits. Statements for which Cosby received summary judgement are OUT.
• The Jury will therefore hear NOTHING about (using Statement numbers as in the written decision):
#3, HKS and ANS’s drug use prior to and during her pregnancy; #4, Stern having Mark Hatten falsely arrested; #5, ANS and HKS conspiring to hire MH to murder E. Pierce Marshall; #6, HKS’s ET compensation; #9, the FS story about HKS flushing pills in The Bahamas; #10, HKS stealing money from ANS; #12, additional offers HKS may have made to LB for making him Executor of ANS’s Estate; and #14, the allegation that Daniel told ‘someone’ about HKS feeding ANS drugs and his being a Svengali. These statements are out because HKS provided no proof to back up his point of view that the statements were false; for the MH sourced materials, MH, even when wrong, is a principal relating his views directly to Cosby.
The Jury will also not have readings of other peoples’ articles, blogs or TV appearances; first-hand information only.
• What the Jury will hear:
The Jury will hear about Jackie Hatten and her substantial contribution to the sex act (#1) statement and the ‘pimping’ statement (#8) and part of the murder allegations in Statements #15 -19. Well, if JH ever surfaces and comes to Court and convinces any one on the Jury that she is not nuts, Cosby might stand a slim to none chance. Of course JH disappeared the very day Cosby’s book was published and only called HKS/Wood once since that time but never showed for her own defamation suit or to give a deposition for Hachette or Cosby.
The sex tape (#2) statement was sourced only by Clark & Vice and precipitated ‘nannygate’; use of those sources and the attempted bribery show actual malice Judge Chin opines. Will Clark & Vice appear at trial to testify? Where’s the tape? Neither can testify to what the nannies said, only what they personally know as a fact.
Harding said Daniel told him (#7) that HKS ‘pimped’ his mother, and Cosby corroborated that statement with JH’s (#8). Harding says he made it up and JH is MIA.
Cosby said LB told her (#11) that HKS perjured himself in Seidlin’s Court when he claimed to be DL’s father but LB denies he said it to her. Who will the Jury believe?
Cosby says VA told her (#13) LB was being blackmailed by HKS for being gay. Will VA take the stand and would the Jury believe her in context? Will the jury believe VA or LB? Chin felt Cosby was reckless to have written anything VA told her.
Statements #15 – 19 are from JH and VA and promoted on TV by Cosby and O’Q and deal with the murder allegations, dates on the will fax’d to HKS and how ANS’s ‘inner circle’ felt HKS was dangerous and was likely involved in ANS’s death and ANS yelling to HKS ‘you did this’, etc. Well, no JH, unlikely VA would show up or be believed and O’Q has already publicly filed papers in his FL case in which he admitted to having made it all up.
Summary:
Jackie Hatten, Harding, VA, Clark & Vice’s source materials are the ONLY materials that will be presented to the Jury. No lifestyle stuff, no ANS Show stuff, no talk of HKS’s parents and money laundering, no sex with the dog stuff, etc.
Who among the above will satisfy the Jury that HKS and LB were witnessed having sex, that a sex tape exists, that HKS ‘pimped’ ANS, HKS perjured himself about being DL’s father, HKS blackmailed ‘gay’ LB or any of the inter-related murder allegations that even O’Q and Clark are on the public record as having said were false. No JH, Harding recanted, VA is brain damaged to some extent according to McCabe and recanted in the ‘Mommie Dearest’ case anyway and the Clark/Vice duo are not believable in anything they have ever said (even Chin noted Clark lied on TV regarding being a source for Cosby).
Cosby has no pertinent witnesses. HKS has a long list of eye-witnesses and principals of the ANS saga on his side – the truth side.
Posted on Nov 19th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
*** Rose/Ken***
I reposted a great post from Swims…. (regarding the NY case)
It has some words in it >> that got caught in your spaminatior or moderator thingy… ;)
Thanks!
And everyone is claiming hacking doctored emails …….. talk about déjà vu!
This is great accusations that a forum is owned by a “high risk sex offender” and BLOG war at it’s best or worse, with shooting statements back and forth from moderators, ex-moderators and those who just “care”… God I am glad we have the group we do… LOL
http://everythingnews.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=picazio&action=display&thread=169
“Some of the more volatile claims Picazio made in the interview suggested that the blogger-in-question was also involved as a moderator for a Haleigh Cummings forum that was operated by a high-risk sex offender.”
Then the attorney shoots back and now the site is having their lawyers look at the flood of emails among the blogs… Mmmmmmm reminiscent of our suit with Havana and some others doesn’t it.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5716192.php
And blogger network who was trashed by the lawyer is trying to stay above the fray and just report… Oh how well do I know how that owner must feel…
http://www.bloggernews.net/123024
BETH—–Man,do I love the part of Hachette Insurer is obligated to cover the defense and settlement for Cosby,unless Cosby fires them and covers her own costs.boy,this trial is in New York,where the public was made fool’s of by Cosby and her 120% true facts, I do wonder how New Yorkers,feel about being used.to promote a book of lies.MY OPINION,,How would you feel being asked to promote and buy a book,that the (award winning journalist) knew was ALL LIES. What I also love is New York is where it is happening,You don’t make it there,you won’t make it anywhere.
Oh and for fun, I forgot to add all of the slug fest between all of these bloggers occurred guess where????? the lovely anything goes “T” site…
Yea I like being where I am now and yes #52 DW, YOU make sense I sure don’t want to be dragged into this any more than I am now… but yes one day a cool analytical none angry article about when does journalism cross over to media “who—” and does a journalist if they take money as a media consultant owe a disclaimer in a case they blog about with “exclusives”… on a day when everything is documented, documented, documented and it is just analytical… not like this free for all of getting even that is happening on the Cummings case and bloggers…
Energy is always better put to doing something positive blog wars or trying to settle scores… they must take their toll on those who do that on and on and on and on ….
#57 Beth “.Hachette’s insurer is obligated to cover the costs of defense and settlement for Cosby unless Cosby ‘fires’ them and takes on the costs herself.”
Oh that is so sweet isn’t it… maybe all of the truth the good, bad and ugly with those “sources” will now come out…
Oh and DW, I went back and looked at all of the updated new set dates on all of these cases and I “think” (which can be dangerous on it’s own) that the calendar is up to date now.
WOW am I glad that we follow cases where there is paperwork and the Cummings case as sad as it is does not have any released paperwork yet unlike the Casey Anthony case we are still putting up paperwork weekly because so much is coming out to the public in Florida…
#59 Rose it is spooky all this coming out and maybe within all this we can find out our truth that happened here to so many.. but I bet we don’t
Wonder how many are playing 2 sides to keep it going?
maybe someone in authority will take notice of the damage. Computer crime, stalking threats etc.
Beth that is a good post of swims and it is good to have it here where it will be read by more people than an old thread at tmz.
Thanks Swims
Going to be very hot here to day, we have a heatwave in spring !! Meant to get to 38c and in some places it is already over 40c. Fires are already starting and they have asked people to leave their homes in high risk areas. We now have a catastrophic catergory and are already nearly there in some areas…no more staying with your home to fight the fire, the loss of life has been too high.
Where I am the bushland is not far away. So I am going to close up the house and try to stay cool.
We went through this not so long ago and it is starting so early in the year.
DerertWalker [53] I saw that response and it does not surprise me they would come back with that due to I believe they sleep at their computer afraid they may miss something. Oh wait forget the sleeping part they’re too busy looking for faceless Bloggers personal info you know like real names or names they think belong to so and so.
Bewildered [54] OMG are they ever it seems they leave no stone unturned either. First, they show their respect and give sympathy to the father and then within minutes they are picking him apart too.
PS,
Those Troll’s would argue with a rock in order to feed their superior complexes.
Oh Heath please be careful and ready to leave if you have to… one year when we had fires here we packed a bag of clothes, a bag of papers and mementos that could not be replaces and a few other things but things we could get to the car in one trip and then the dogs from out side… It took us about 1 week to pack the have to save bags.. I never realized we had so many important papers in so many different spots…
But above all be safe, very safe… it seems in Aust. and Calif. the fires are getting worse and coming earlier in the year now… very very sad…
heath [64] in reference to, “Wonder how many are playing 2 sides to keep it going?” I can name a few ;-) You know I’ve noticed some similarities in two of those people which makes me question are the same person using different monikers even while a member here cause I’m telling you all their writing patterns are a lot alike not to mention their gripe about this site and it’s owner. Nah I know they are two different people but damn that holier than thou act now that they are no longer members here is identical. Oops almost forgot and their identical undying love for VA.
heath [64] as difficult as it may seem you have the right idea by leaving your home, life is more precious than the material things, stay safe friend.
November 16, 2009 Nelda “Rose” Turner’s Notice of Related cases, Special Exception and Original Answer in Tarrant County to Teresa Stephens First Supplemental Complaint.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2669
We are still attempting to reach a Rule 11 Agreement with Teresa Stephens so will have no comments on this suit but will be transparent and post the papers. I have read a draft of Emmett Glenn’s Answer and per his draft Stephens has promised him to Dismiss him from the case if he becomes a witness for her. Although I have not seen her Rule 11 Agreement to do that with him yet, but I am sure she is behind in filings in all of these overlapping cases.
I am have just been to supermarket to get supplies etc. When I got in my car the temperature outside was 47 celsius according to my instruments. It cooled to 43 as I got going and got into some shade.
We here have no need to go as yet but noticed the fire fighters at the park near my home. Bet they are stationed everywhere..
I am glad I don’t live further out of town.
JMA I have often wondered at the manipulation that goes on and in hindsight it is really obvious. It will become personal attacks and they will take center stage over the story, deflecting from the facts. Hurt feelings and all the rest of it.
Actually don’t get me started.
November 19, 2009 CBS Objection to Virgie Arthur Motion for Continuance as being moot and about objecting to the evidence produced by Arthur in the Response to Summary Judgment.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2670
November 19, 2009 CBS Objection to Virgie Arthur Motion for Continuance as being moot and about objecting to the evidence produced by Arthur in the Response to Summary Judgment Exhibit A which is a copy of the 80th District Court Rules on Submissions and Hearings.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2671
November 19, 2009 CBS Objection to Virgie Arthur Motion for Continuance as being moot and about objecting to the evidence produced by Arthur in the Response to Summary Judgment Exhibit B the Supreme Court of Texas Emergency Stay for Writ of Mandamus.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2672
Rose just read your answer to Butterfly and I think your point number 19 says it all for me.
November 19, 2009 CBS Objection to Virgie Arthur Motion for Continuance as being moot and about objecting to the evidence produced by Arthur in the Response to Summary Judgment Exhibit C the 80th District Court Docket Control Order
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2672
Heath..fires are scary and with wind, you never know where their headed. Would you be more comfortable with 20 below? I’ll share
November 19, 2009 CBS Objection to Virgie Arthur Motion for Continuance as being moot and about objecting to the evidence produced by Arthur in the Response to Summary Judgment Exhibit D the 80th District Court Order confirming trial date will remain May 2010.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2673
November 19, 2009 Virgie Arthur’s Motion for Leave to File Late Evidence in part stating that CBS used a technicality when in fact CBS knew the tape of the Entertainment Tonight Show was authentic because CBS turned the DVD over to Arthur during the federal suit in 2008.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2674
#76 NNNOOOOO
Is that celsius or farenheight????? I hate the cold..
I am going to sit home with the air con and play computers and maybe read a bit..my guys are not home and I am not leaving my puppies to go and get real hot in the outside world unless it comes knocking.
November 19, 2009 Virgie Arthur’s Notice of Submission for December 8, on her Motion for Leave to File Late Evidence in part stating that CBS used a technicality when in fact CBS knew the tape of the Entertainment Tonight Show was authentic because CBS turned the DVD over to Arthur during the federal suit in 2008.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2675
November 19, 2009 Virgie Arthur Reply to CBS Response to Arthur’s Motion for a Continuance of CBS Motion for Summary Judgment calendared for November 16, which is based on CBS did not give the required statute time frame of twenty-one (21) days after filing a Motion for Summary Judgment before it can be put on a Court’s Submission Docket.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2676
I am going to have to look up the statute quoted here and check the calculations later after TV. This is the last filing by either side today in Court.
CYA be back after the Mentalist tonight on TV
Kinda odd. Arthur says the two cases (Fed & State) are not related (enough), yet uses exhibits from the Federal case to furthur the causes of the State case? To defeat summary judgment? Real interesting.
CBS and AH call b.s. on VA’s Motion to change the pre-trial and trial dates for the ‘bloggers’ case; it’s a page-turner as legal docs go. The bottom line is that such a Motion cannot be set for submission (as it was), rather it must be set for an oral hearing as per Judge Weiman’s own procedural rules of which all parties are aware.
• ALL parties must be able to show up at a HEARING and go through this slug of a case in the open, fresh air of a new Court.
- CBS and AH point out the multiple mandamus proceedings and chastise VA for calling such writs a delay tactic of the defendants involved. Clearly the 1st COA and the TSC don’t indulge ‘delay’ tactics; they deal with important legal questions. VA is also chastised for saying AH has engaged in ‘massive spoliation’ when in fact that false conclusion comes from the ‘work’ of a Special Master that was unlawfully appointed by Lindsay and who is the very subject of the pending writs of mandamus. Bad, bad VA trying to taint the new Judge’s view of CBS and AH by slipping false and inflammatory and irrelevant one-liners into a Court doc.
- CBS and AH also point out that VA has sued many of the same defendants before in the ‘Mommie Dearest’ case which was dismissed with prejudice. The time has come to discuss ‘the truth’ that was dragged out of VA, McCabe and others in the big court.
- Just as VA wanted a continuance claiming to need 30 days to write a surreply; a surreply she filed the same day as the Motion asking for 30 days to write it; we see VA saying deadlines need to be extended for such things as naming an expert witness when she already has named an expert witness. Does VA assume the new Judge is no different than the old Judge?
• Time for VA to show up in Court and explain herself.
Posted at 7:27PM on Nov 19th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/16/larry-birkhead-anna-nicole-smith-howard-k-stern-drugs-sandeep-kapoor-khristine-eroshevich/44#comments#ixzz0XMWesXiL
(Ref: New Blogger Case Documents filed) >> “• Time for VA to show up in Court and explain herself.” >>> EXACTLY RIGHT!!! [about time too!]
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http://www.hcdistrictclerk.com/Edocs/Public/ViewFilePage.aspx?ViewAsType=PDF&TodaysDate=11/19/2009&PublicImageNbr=43910281&CourtID=080
“CBS and AH call b.s. on VA’s Motion to change the pre-trial and trial dates for the ‘bloggers’ case; it’s a page-turner as legal docs go. The bottom line is that such a Motion cannot be set for submission (as it was), rather it must be set for an oral hearing as per Judge Weiman’s own procedural rules of which all parties are aware.
• ALL parties must be able to show up at a HEARING and go through this slug of a case in the open, fresh air of a new Court.
- CBS and AH point out the multiple mandamus proceedings and chastise VA for calling such writs a delay tactic of the defendants involved. Clearly the 1st COA and the TSC don’t indulge ‘delay’ tactics; they deal with important legal questions. VA is also chastised for saying AH has engaged in ‘massive spoliation’ when in fact that false conclusion comes from the ‘work’ of a Special Master that was unlawfully appointed by Lindsay and who is the very subject of the pending writs of mandamus. Bad, bad VA trying to taint the new Judge’s view of CBS and AH by slipping false and inflammatory and irrelevant one-liners into a Court doc.
- CBS and AH also point out that VA has sued many of the same defendants before in the ‘Mommie Dearest’ case which was dismissed with prejudice.
The time has come to discuss ‘the truth’ that was dragged out of VA, McCabe and others in the big court.
- Just as VA wanted a continuance claiming to need 30 days to write a surreply; a surreply she filed the same day as the Motion asking for 30 days to write it; we see VA saying deadlines need to be extended for such things as naming an expert witness when she already has named an expert witness.
Does VA assume the new Judge is no different than the old Judge?
• Time for VA to show up in Court and explain herself.
Posted on Nov 19th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
LOL Liann!
Great minds think alike!!! ;)
Sorry about reposting it again…
Heath, Just try to stay cool and be safe, I am thinking of you all were your at, ditto JMA #68.
LOL, I just saw that. lol
Hi Beth!, I hope you and yours are good!
Beth it is a damn great post!,
Thanks Swims.
Yes Liann!
It is a great post!!!
On pg. 4 direct contravention (violation) of Simpson vs. Canales….
http://www.1stcoa.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/htmlopinion.asp?OpinionId=83152
“The appointment of a master lies within the sound discretion of the trial court and should not be disturbed unless a clear abuse of that discretion is found. Simpson v. Canales, 806 S.W.2d 802, 811 (Tex. 1991). The Texas Supreme Court has held that “Rule 171 is the exclusive authority for appointment of masters in our state courts” and “every referral to a master, unless authorized by statute or consented to by the parties, must comply with Rule 171.” Id. at 810 & n.12 (giving non-exhaustive listing of matters authorized by statute). Here, because there does not appear to be an applicable statute and because Holt did not consent to the appointment, the issue is whether the trial court had the authority to compel Holt to submit matters to the master under Rule 171. See id. at 810–11 & n.12.
Rule 171 provides as follows, in pertinent part:
The court may, in exceptional cases, for good cause appoint a master in chancery, who shall be a citizen of this State, and not an attorney for either party to the action, nor related to either party, who shall perform all of the duties required of him by the court, and shall be under orders of the court, and have such power as the master in chancery has in a court of equity.
Tex. R. Civ. P. 171. Hence, Rule 171 permits a trial court to appoint a master “in exceptional cases, for good cause.” Id. The “exceptional case” and “good cause” standards are “not susceptible [to] precise definition.” Simpson, 806 S.W.2d at 811. Although the trial court may consider the complexity of the case, the rule’s standards may not be satisfied merely by showing that a case is time-consuming or complicated. Id.
In Simpson, the trial court appointed a master based on the complexity of the toxic-tort case before it, which involved one plaintiff and 18 defendants. Id. Over the course of 10 months, 8 discovery motions were filed, but the trial court did not hear any of the pending discovery disputes before appointing the master. Id. The supreme court concluded that the appointment of the master constituted a clear abuse of discretion by the trial court because, although the case may have been more complicated than others on the trial court’s docket, “it can hardly be said to be exceptional, at least at this point in its development.” Id. The supreme court explained that “[e]ven if this were an exceptional case, based upon the allegations in the pleadings, the number of parties, or the amount of activity it generated, we would be reluctant to approve the trial court’s delegation of the supervision of all discovery to be conducted in the case to the master.” Id. at 811–12.
As in Simpson, there is nothing in the record before us that suggests that this is an “exceptional case” that cannot be handled in the trial court or that “good cause” exists for supervision by a master. There are two parties involved, and the only issue before the trial court at this time is the discovery of non-exempt assets. There was no evidence taken at the December 14 hearing before the trial court appointed Baumann, and, although Holt objected to the appointment, Cedyco offered no explanation.
Conclusion
We hold that the trial court abused its discretion in appointing a master, conditionally grant Holt’s petition for writ of mandamus, and direct the trial court to vacate its January 19, 2006 order appointing a master and any other orders ancillary thereto.
Baumann was appointed solely as master; Ray Crain was appointed the receiver. The record reflects that Baumann has represented himself as the receiver in this case, notonly in his letters to Holt, but also to the United States Post Office in filling out a request re-directing Holt’s mail to Baumann. On February 24, 2006, the trial court ordered thatBaumann could re-direct Holt’s mail, open it, and hold it. The order expressly relievedBaumann from any duty to return any mail to Holt and allowed Holt to retrieve his mail onlyif and in the manner that Baumann chose. Further, the trial court’s order provided that there-direction was to begin immediately and that “[n]o notice is to be given” to Holt. Because this order was ancillary to the trial court’s appointment of a master, for which we grantmandamus relief, we direct the trial court to vacate the February 24 order and further directthe trial court to order Baumann to rescind any measures taken at the United States PostOffice with regard to re-directing Holt’s mail.
Close We lift our order of March 28, 2006 staying the proceedings below. We are confident that the trial court will promptly comply, and our writ will issue only if it does not.”
“Tim Taft
Justice”
Sound familiar? ;)
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“In Simpson, the trial court appointed a master based on the complexity of the toxic-tort case before it, which involved one plaintiff and 18 defendants.
Id. Over the course of 10 months, 8 discovery motions were filed, but the trial court did not hear any of the pending discovery disputes before appointing the master. Id. The supreme court concluded that the appointment of the master constituted a clear abuse of discretion by the trial court because, although the case may have been more complicated than others on the trial court’s docket, “it can hardly be said to be exceptional, at least at this point in its development.” Id. The supreme court explained that “[e]ven if this were an exceptional case, based upon the allegations in the pleadings, the number of parties, or the amount of activity it generated, we would be reluctant to approve the trial court’s delegation of the supervision of all discovery to be conducted in the case to the master.” Id. at 811–12.”
OMG! How funny! (the whole ‘one’ page – link below)
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/anna-nicole-smith/T7VRMG6ONOEBGR6SO
Have a nice evening all!
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Heath, please be safe!
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Thanks Rose as always for the docs!
Very interesting!
LOL Not too much praise from the other side’s legal eagle on McC’s latest motions… ;)
I guess they cannot even attempt to spin what is becoming VERY CLEAR to all now!
TX are the ones WHO HAVE ALWAYS WANTED THIS FAKE CASE DELAYED! Because they have NO CASE, NO ACTUAL CONSPIRED DEFAMATION!
The case was to make HKS (all other defendants are just collateral damage) pay for daring to SUE O’Q!
LOL If HKS hadn’t won… do you think TX firm would want this much revenge? (that is Bull Sh*t on: ‘just his legal fees got paid in FL’ I bet!)
* MAD about the FL burial hearing, MAD about the loss in the Bahamas, MAD about the loss in FL defamation case against O’Q, MAD about the loss in TX FEDERAL COURT w/ VA…. There is NOTHING left for them to make up and SUE for! SOON > this will be over for all the Defendants!
** Then there should be a class action suit against the plaintiff and her counsel and their ‘untrained helpers’ for these FALSE CHARGES! JMHO on that!
;) Goodnight everyone.
Mighty kind of VA /McCabe to introduce the federal suit in 2008 into the case. Good times in Court are on the way. Many thanks for the docs, Rose.
Heath … check in as often as you can. We’re a bit nervous for you here, especially now that we know you’re there alone.
New article about Casey Anthony up
All good but an exiting day…we had a huge fire start in an Industrial area and the smoke was able to be seen for miles….really put the blood pressure up.
Then we had a thunder storm and rain pelted down and the temp dropped . Didn’t last long but it took the edge off.
I know other areas got it bad so I feel lucky.
Thanks so much for your thoughts.
I know our weather patterns have changed so much, it is so much hotter here and mild winters etc. I don’t know where it will end up. But it hasn’t been so hot here that I know of since we moved to this city when I was 10 years old. It was always cooler in the mountains.
Ok need to catch up LOL
new article with big announcement on front page