Michelle Braun and Husband Farrell Kellener

Michelle Braun the latest Hollywood Madam whose business was bigger then Heidi Fleiss, with more ex-Playmates and even some porn stars served the very rich and famous from the U. S. to overseas. Braun will be sentenced today in a federal California Court. The U. S. is recommended five (5) years probation with no more than six (6) months of house arrest.

The federal government has stated that Michelle Braun has given over her electronic black books and is helping the federal government in its ongoing investigation of whose who in Hollywood and how far reaching literally – globally, her “organization” was.

Braun has pled guilty to one felony charge of transporting a woman across state lines for the purpose of prostitution and one felony account of money laundering.

Many wondered why Braun immediately agreed to a plea bargain and to hand over her list of “Johns”. Now we know in the Civil Forfeiture part of this case.

Braun was quick to make this deal because this was truly in every sense of the word a family affair. Braun’s husband, Farrell Kellener, was listed as the president of the multiple business names for Nikki’s Girls with advertising online and a chunk of change to rent one of these girls. Braun got caught by giving service online to an undercover agent. But then she does love to be referred to as “Queen”. Braun’s sister, Mandy Gray of Bakersfield California, worked as her secretary and bookkeeper, her parents had a piece of the action, Braun kept money stashed out of the country, per filings Amsterdam seemed to be her favorite place to stash the extra case. She had a plan to flee the U. S. to a rich uncle in Mexico and then on to a country where extradition was not a guarantee. However, the most surprising family member involved was her brother, listed as a Newport Beach California attorney, however his name is alleged to be Jeff L. Braun. Braun’s brother, the attorney, told everyone he was not Michelle’s brother, and he appears to be protected hin filings as just her brother a Newport Beach Attorney, but once the U. S. government asked for the Civil Suit to be unsealed and the Stay lifted, there was her brother, listed as a “Newport Beach California attorney” who had his sister power of attorney to access her funds if needed for bail money or other expenses. Is aiding a sister in money laundering and prostitution an ethics violation in California? Hell is not reporting a crime an ethics violation in California? However, Braun being the good daughter and sister has taken the full force of the U. S. Government conviction upon herself. Next question why is Michelle Braun getting such a little bit of slap on the hands both sentence wise and property the federal government wants? Remember how much time both the previous Hollywood Madam, Heidi Fleiss and the D. C. Madam received?

You might note also that Michelle Braun’s attorney is Ellyn Garofalo of the Dr. Sandeep Kapoor of Anna Nicole Smith fame. All of this is things that make most of us go Mmmmmmmm. Remember the D. C. Madam was going to jail no if, buts or ands about it, so what is different in this family affair of prostitution, lots of money and high living in Braun’s case.

Here are a list of documents we have obtained in this case well worth a read of crime does pay.

March 18, 2008 Michelle Braun Civil Forfeiture Case list of assets being seized by U. S. Government in prostitution ring and money laundering.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2654.

April 15, 2008 Michelle Braun First Amended Civil Forfeiture Case list of assets being seized by U. S. Government in prostitution ring and money laundering.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2655.

April 15, 2008 USA request and Court Agrees to unseal the Warrant and the list of seized property removed by the federal government in the Civil Forfeiture Case list of assets being seized by U. S. Government in prostitution ring and money laundering.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2656.

May 14, 2008 The Affidavit of Michelle Braun and estranged husband, Farrell Kellener, stating that they did run the prostitution ring and that they did own the property seized property removed by the federal government in the Civil Forfeiture Case list of assets being seized by U. S. Government in prostitution ring and money laundering.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2657.

May 21, 2008 Copy of the Warrant that the FBI used to seize property removed by the federal government in the Civil Forfeiture Case list of assets being seized by U. S. Government in prostitution ring and money laundering.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2658.

July 22, 2009 Stipulation between Michelle Braun and estranged husband, Farrell Kellener, to lift stay on Civil Suit once Braun made a deal and pled guilty to the criminal charges. This stipulation lifted the stay in the Civil Forfeiture Case list of assets being seized by U. S. Government in prostitution ring and money laundering.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2659.

July 29, 2009 Order lifting Stay on Civil Suit once Braun made a deal and pled guilty to the criminal charges. This stipulation lifted the stay in the Civil Forfeiture Case list of assets being seized by U. S. Government in prostitution ring and money laundering.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2660.

September 3, 2009 Notice of related cases on Michelle Braun of the Criminal case with sentencing due on November 16 and Civil Case that the stay had been lifted by Court Order on the criminal charges, both cases in California Court.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2661.

September 9, 2009 Transfer of Civil Case to same court that is handling the criminal case to show seized property removed by the federal government in the Civil Forfeiture Case list of assets being seized by U. S. Government in prostitution ring and money laundering and to allow the same court to handle both cases.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2662.

November 13, 2009 Michelle Braun Position on Sentencing suggested by the U. S. Attorney’s office for her sentencing on November 16, 2009 in two felony counts of of transporting a woman across state line for prostitution and money laundering.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2663.

All of our documents on this case are opened to All not just members of Rose Speaks.com. There are new papers in the Texas State case in Harris County due out today and of course the Anna Nicole Smith Estate Case in South Carolina has Answers due by all of the Jane and John Doe defendants as well as the Sanction filing against Susan M. Brown. Brown’s answer is due today on that Motion by Howard K. Stern on behalf of the Estate of Smith.

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November 16, 2009
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86 Responses to “Michelle Braun, Hollywood Madam, to be Sentenced Today – It Really was a Family Affair!”
  1. will says:

    Great job! It is just getting interesting.

  2. Michelle Braun says:

    Lol, you have so many facts wrong. No wonder that Jeff Braun says HE’S not my brother, he’s not! Poor guy. And I have been estranged from from Farrell since June of last year. I wouldn’t cal him my husband. And could you at least spell my last name right my crazy ex-boyfriend who sent in the quote (you know who you are psycho)? It’s Braun not BrUan! For those of you that need to know, in the end I got 3 years probation and a $200 special assessment. I’m happy it’s over. : )

  3. Michelle Braun says:

    Oh, and my attorney is Marc Nurik. Ellen just appeared on his behalf when he couldn’t make a court date. He’s even better than her, currently he’s representing Scott Rothstein in a huge case out of Florida. Great job Marc, you are terrific! : )

  4. will says:

    It just got more interesting! lol Michelle, tell us more about your case. Who are you bringing down?

  5. JMA says:

    OK wasn’t sure where to put this tidbit but figured many may be reading this newest article so here goes.

    How did WV get Anna Nicole’s and Howard K Stern’s SS# not to mention this wannbe PI was soliciting a blogger to look into/pull info on those #’s. IS IT NOT ILLIGEL TO SHARE SS #’s WITH OTHERS? What was it she was expecting to find, and furthermore who authorized WV to do such a thing?

    Yep love it when the Topix Troll’s get their panties in a twist and start spilling the beans.

  6. Michelle Braun says:

    Nobody at all, I ran a legitimate business. They had no case. End of story.

  7. Rose says:

    Miss Braun, if you are the real Michelle Braun you can email me any government documents in the criminal or civil cases against you where the court said you “ran a legitimate” business, because everything I have pulled on your case says otherwise and you are cooperating by giving ppl up to get a lighter sentence… So why plead guilty and hand over money and property to the government if you ran a legitimate business. Now that could get very interesting… and wasn’t you bail revoked at one time and you were arrested stayed in jail and the extradited to California?

    BTW if you have not looked at the paperwork or the front page of this site my email address in rose@rosespeaks.com

    Oh and isn’t Marc Nurik a Florida lawyer who needed Ms. Ellyn Garofalo in order to get pro hac vice status in California and are you saying Ms. Garofalo lied to the federal court about needing a postponement in your sentencing???

  8. Rose says:

    #5 JMA that is an interesting question isn’t it… was that part of the “joint defense” agreement with Cosby’s lawyers in New York? Did that agreement allow them to turn over documents filed under seal?

  9. Beth says:

    Wow Rose!
    [8] Wouldn’t that be something! If that untrained assistant possibly got SS#’s from the papers stolen at Horizons and actually told them to a stranger; over the internet so that person (they never met) could run the numbers and find out information from them?
    * CRAZY!
    Someone should file charges on that act alone! IMO >> ARREST HER! If that is how it went down… her and her ‘people’ like her DC, McC, and the whole O’Quinn Law Firm! SHAMEFUL!!
    I forgot, was that untrained assistant there also when DO and RC were looking and ‘cackling’ over all of Anna and Howard’s personal papers that had been STOLEN by FS and company?
    Lock them all up and throw away the key! JMHO

  10. Michelle Braun says:

    I was NEVER charged with a crime. I plead to an information. I pushed for it to END the investigation. Why? Very simple…to stop the FBI from harassing the people with whom I did business for 11 years and formed very close friendships in their quest to build a mountain out of a molehill. They obtained the search warrant based on a claim from my former brother-in-law that I had 10M in cash in my basement. Thankfully I didn’t have a basement! So they don’t look so good after a 7 year investigation and start knocking on doors. Nobody needs to be put in the position to explain to their significant other why the FBI is standing outside asking questions! So I took a bullet for my friends and family. And they got some money, believe me there’s more to life than money it can be earned over and over quite easily if you have half a brain. As far as cooperation, yeah I agreed to answer their questions and I did. I answered honestly, don’t know nothing about nobody. I minded my own business and that is why I did it so good.

  11. JMA says:

    Rose & Beth regardless where those SS #’s came from WV had no business giving them to any old JoeSchmoe Blogger I’m sorry but she [WV] has crossed the line.

    Oh actually Beth that Blogger is claiming WV called her home and gave her Anna & Howard’s SS #’s and along with a docket # for something with California. Oh and this blogger is claiming she is not the only Blogger WV was soliciting. WV did not deny doing this but thinks nothing illegal was done when I read her response all I could think was WTF who the is guiding or training this woman.

  12. Michelle Braun says:

    And I don’t know why Marc had Ellen appear on my behalf but she did one time. However Marc has been my lawyer since October 2007 when this all started to unfold. He lives in Florida, yes, as do I. And you are correct I was arrested on a pretrial bond violation and extradited from Florida to California because of poor communication between myself and the Florida pretrial supervision officer. Spent 3 weeks in federal custody, 6 different prisons, flew Con Air twice…what a journey. Got to California and the judge (the same judge who sentenced me today) let me go. So glad it is over but that part of my life has been behind me already for over 2 years! I’m not here for an interview just clarifying the facts.

  13. John J. Nazarian P.I. says:

    Rose, Michelle is a decent human being, she is very protective of her family and has tried to do well. She is a decent human being and anyone who has gone through what she has would want all of this to stop. As for those who dont like what she did or how she did it too bad…..I know her and she is fun and I cannot imagine anyone meeting her and not liking her. Some may not like her as she is a very smart gal and will land on her feet at some point. She had some of the best legal talent money could buy and I for one am glad that she survived, and she survived because she is strong willed. To my knowledge she never hurt anyone.

    We at Nazarian and Associates wish her well,

    John

  14. John J. Nazarian P.I. says:

    PS : That is Ms. Braun, I can tell by the way she writes, and what she says is all true…….

    John

  15. Beth says:

    Interesting…

    I have come to the conclusion that NOT everything written anywhere is “all true”…. (of course just my opinion – like you have your opinion)
    * Doesn’t make EITHER of us COMPLETELY RIGHT you know….

    “Fun” or not, she went to court for a reason……

    I believe all of us here DO LIKE intelligent people [ LOL intelligent Women too! ], that was a rather chauvinistic remark….

    Careful, the “real ‘fun’ you” may just be fully exposed in some of the comments you put here…… IYKWIM ;)

    ps, then there would be no mystery left for all of us ‘dummies’…….

  16. hmm says:

    John I got to sort of agree with you. It always seems to me that others in these types of cases get off scott free and usually,I will use the term Madam for convience,no offense meant Michelle, usual get the brunt of everything .What she did or did not do means nothing now as long as it is over with.To Bad she couldn’t name brown as a customer LOL

  17. Roxanne says:

    I personally don’t give a damn who did what. I don’t disapprove of what type business Ms. Braun ran. She had women who didn’t mind spreading their legs for money and men who didn’t mind paying for a pretty woman to do that for them. All adults in agreement of what was going on. However, the fact is she broke the laws in the state she ran her business. Just because she may be a nice, fun woman doesn’t mean she shouldn’t be held accountable for breaking those laws. I’m sure she went into that business knowing full well what the laws were and what the consequences could be if caught. That part of her life may be over for HER but my understanding is that it is still ongoing for some. I could be wrong about that. After all, we know not everything we read in the media is 100% accurate. This article went most of the day with only 1 comment. It’s got a low number now and I’m pretty sure that’s because, really, no one give a damn one way or the other. But, what the hell do any of us know. We’re all just a bunch of dumbass women…..

  18. Beth says:

    Roxanne~
    Exactly right!
    Every word!
    Thanks.

  19. heath says:

    I could never understand why the lady in Washington hung herself…..she could have done a deal as well and still be alive.

    This is all a bit strange… I don’t condone anything but someone is going to make money out of sex and seems the govt wants in anyway it can. Or the FBI is.

    Maybe they were data mining like Texas is !!!!

  20. JMA says:

    Roxanne [17] I agree with every word you wrote, spot on girl ;-)

    heath [17] in reference to “I could never understand why the lady in Washington hung herself…..she could have done a deal as well and still be alive.” so true I walked away from that one thinking maybe there was a little more to it. JMO

  21. Bewildered says:

    John..if you know her so well, what color are her eyes? :lol:

  22. Rose says:

    1. Ok folks she likes to be called “Queen” or “Her Majesty” that alone tells me a lot about her

    2. I picked up this story from an AP alert and because of the DC Madam followed it and have been for months, check the download section.

    3. There is the little bit about allowing her to travel to New York (some SEC suit that she is involved with as a defendant in yet another federal court). That case involves a lot of ppl and got put on hold because the New Federal Judge died in office and the last I check they were just then sorting out and sending the cases to other judges and I think it was the SEC that filed to consolidate all of these cases in this situation. I really don’t have any reason to not believe that the business Nikki’s Girls was at that time ran by Braun

    4. I know of no psychotic boyfriend and have not been contacted by any. I googled Braun – attorney – New Port Beach and came up with one name. I have been contacted by four different sources that express fear out of what she could and would do to them. All of them said she is narcissistic and that she demands ultimate loyalty and have no fear of telling them if they crossed her what would happen, and she seems to me to be capable of that. She seems to be bragging today she is never ignorant and stays a step ahead on the feds. Come on folks anyone that refers to themselves as “Her Majesty” and demands that others do as well, is just not my cup of tea IYKWIM

    5. I have been contacted by multiple ppl who truly seem to be afraid of her and what she can do with her money and who she knows…

    6. I have also be told and found the source reliable (that fear factor ppl can’t fake) that she left a “succession” plan in place and supposedly it has been running, never missed a beat and “The Queen” never missed her cut as it continued on, it just keeps raking that cash in and her percentage continues and has all of this time so she had to be smart to do that I will give her that credit… Those big powerful lawyers don’t come cheap nor do they just “give their time to a “Madam”… However it would appear from the sources she didn’t take a bullet for ALL of her old “friends”.

    7. IMO this is about power, money, fear, succession plans etc. to keep the money coming in and possibly a not too bright FBI to miss this if it is true. I will let “The Queen’s” own words speak to that.

    8. If you have the money and she seems to have plenty of it, then you don’t do the time… we all know justice “cough cough” is for those who can afford it…

    And folks for all we know Nazarian and Associates knows her from a “business point”??? You know not hands on or involved in “The Queen’s” business but to keep those skeletons that might embarrass some ppl in the those closets.. Remember the New York governor who had to resign only to never have been indicted. You know business is business and fun is fun.

    My personal opinion matches Roxanne’s, she has the girls, the guys have the money as long as she paid her girls and did not rule by fear of what she could do to them, (which some sources said she does rule with fear, she did not pay some, she left a succession plan in place of which she still get a lot of moolah), Then let the good times roll.

    It is after all the oldest profession known to man… they should legalize it and tax it…

    BTW it would appear that no one is even talking about “Her Majesty” other than she is out hitting the blogs today, celebrating I would guess and to let ppl know she is BBBBBBBAAAAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKKKKK…. The sentence report from today’s hearing is not available yet.

  23. Liann says:

    When I read Rose’s comment a few articles back that she was going to write a article about Michelle Braun and her brother is a California attorney, I sure wasn’t thinking about a attorney in New Port Beach, I was thinking LA, the Braun name like Harland and I think Adam is his son, I could be wrong, ( But they look so much alike ) and Adam is Dr. Khristine Eroshevich’s atty. and now I read the coincidence is Ellyn Garofalo Dr. Sandeep Kapoor’s attorney., I was so thinking something else imo. I think Harland and Adam are well respected defence attorney in So. Cal. I always have.

    Amsterdam, I heard that was a great place for stash, I mean to stash cash, sorry I could not resist. :lol:

    The FBI should be focusing on their most wanted list not the oldest profession, as long as it is with consenting adults and no one gets hurt I could give a crap what people do behind close doors.

  24. Rose says:

    Newest papers in Texas

    November 16, 2009 Virgie Arthur’s Motion for Continuance to file in regards to CBS filing after 5 PM and not giving Arthur a chance to reply.

    http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2664

  25. Rose says:

    November 16, 2009 Virgie Arthur’s Notice of her Submission of plaintiff’s Sur Reply with a request for the court to take it in consideration before ruling on the Summary Judgment of CBS.

    http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2665

  26. Liann says:

    Wow, I just posted and just read your post Rose.

    I don’t doubt anything you just posted !, Maybe that is why the Feds are so after her?

  27. Rose says:

    November 16, 2009 Virgie Arthur’s Sur Reply to CBS’ Reply to Arthur’s Response to CBS’ Motion for Summary Judgment and Answer to CBS’ filing of Objection to Arthur’s exhibit. It is so nice to see both sides quoting the case I found in the Appellate Court and to think how much money all of these lawyers get paid an hour.

    http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2666

  28. Rose says:

    OK folks I am going back to bed… I am feeling a LOT better but still weak and still not feeling like drinking coffee.

    I will try to have a new article up tomorrow with updates from all of the cases we are following…

  29. Liann says:

    I just skimmed Arthur’s requests. Ha Ha, ” CBS pointed to alleged defects in Plaintiff’s pleadings and summary judgement response” they say they did not give them a 3-day time period to cure so now they want a thirty day continuance, if I understand that right, IMO everyone of Arthur’s pleadings has been defected!!!

  30. Liann says:

    Sorry I am laughing to hard, defected s/b defective. – still laughing-

    I hope everyone is well.

  31. Michelle Braun says:

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Great writing Rose…you should see if David Caruso needs an understudy! Fyi “Her Majesty” was a JOKE (an old joke btw) amongst my personal friends. I am the only one commenting because WHO GIVES A FUCK? I’ve got nothing to brag about, plenty of successful business people out there. I’m no different/better than anyone else. Get over it, move on, next…

  32. Liann says:

    I just started to read the last filing by Arthur I too tried to continue with McC’s bs logic tonight, Does CBS ever say just refer to the Fed case and VA’s depo from the Fed case? If not, why not? Wouldn’t that put this bs to rest?

  33. Liann says:

    #31, are you trying to deflect and insult at the same time?, Hahahaha what?, Whatever, John vouches for you is that personal or just business?, never mind I could careless, John is a business man imo whatever that business is is none of my business I respect John but have at times never understood him. Like John saying books are untrue and he never read or was up on the conversation but had a assumption that The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx was all lies and Donna D was or must imo been a client of his at that time, I take it you are/where close to Nikki because of the name Nikki’s Girls and picture or is that just a coincidence? Thanks in advance for answering?.. Hey if the case is you were a start up girl smart enough to make millions and no one got hurt and took the rap, that is respect.

  34. JMA says:

    Bewildered [21] OMG this is hilarious cause I know where you are going with that question. Psst tell him know cheating by looking at pic’s before answering, want him to say by memory of meeting her.

  35. will says:

    One moment John says he met her once and now he can recognize her handwriting and vouch for her! I smell something fishy. She is not a nice person. Most recently she threatened to “out” Monica Hansen if she didn’t drop her lawsuit against a South Florida plastic surgeon with whom she is friends. Check out the story on adultfyi.com. The lawsuit made all the South Florida papers as well as Ms. Braun’s involvement. John, Pablo Escobar had willpower too! lol

  36. JMA says:

    Rose [22] excellent post ;-) was going to add a few comments but felt it best to keep my little fingers quiet not because I’m scared to express how I feel about certain issues only because arrogant people irritate me. I could go on a long major rant here but will only add this, for those who act as though they are untouchable; eventually it catches up with them.

    In reference to #8 in your post ‘Justice My Ass’ ;-)

  37. JMA says:

    correct for post #34 s/b ‘no cheating’ not know

  38. JMA says:

    Liann [23] Interesting find peaks the interest to want to know more of where the dots connect. ;-)

    Oh yeah, ah Amsterdam yes-great place for stash, oops you meant cash :lol:

  39. JMA says:

    Liann [32] did you catch the part where he [McC] is basically accusing CBS of purposely sending it to his office late to prevent them from responding in a timely fashion. I see McC is back to shoveling his same old BS filings.

  40. will says:

    I don’t think the FBI realizes just how many “copycats” they have inspired!

  41. BEVERLY says:

    Good Morning Everyone,As I was reading CBS response to Vergie Arthur,I came across”What the plaintiff fails to appreciate is that unreasonable interpetations of the publication,do not create a fact issue sufficient to defeat summary judgement .” there is no one better than Vergie herself,her actions and TV appearances.latest on Geraldo,making comments like”if you love someone you would get them off drugs”One problem,Geraldo’s brother never asked Vergie what she did to help her daughter off of drugs,they skipped that, another comment .From LARRY DALE HART——Mama sent her(Anna) to Mexia to live with Aunt Kay and Grandma,she did not know Aunt Kay and grandma let us run wild” Why did Vergie not know?Did she every bother to inquire,or care? This is where the OQ Law Firm,with McCabe Don Clark,thought Dannielynn belonged.When you care more about money than a innocent childs welfare how could any court,think what was discussed with bloggers or CBS TMZ or anyone ,could harm Vergie reputation,her own Lawyers helped destroy her reputation…MY OPINION.

  42. JMA says:

    Beverly [41] excellent points! As for Virgie’s remark on Geraldo ”if you love someone you would get them off drugs” her solution when it came to Anna was like you said “send her away” and let someone else deal with the problem. You are right what did Virgie do to help her daughters, from what we have seen or read she did nothing unless it involved money and once Anna refused to hand out money to the family she/they found other ways even if it meant stabbing Anna in the back. As I have said before, it’s no wonder Anna was estranged not only from her mother but her entire family.

  43. Beth says:

    Rose,
    “I am feeling a LOT better but still weak and still not feeling like drinking coffee.”

    * Try green tea, either hot or cold. I like my coffee and tea plain but green tea w/ a little cream and sugar is also good.
    Green Tea has healing properties in it also.
    (I found an 80 bag Green Tea Box at the .99 cent store!)

    Glad you are feeling better!

  44. John J. Nazarian P.I. says:

    Whatever Ms. Braun was charged with she was arrested and she hired a lawyer and from the penalty this was not a huge case. She paid her taxes and ran a business. Lets just wish her the best in the years to come. For some I can see the issue, she is pretty, smart and at one time had a ton of money.

    Knowing her as I do, she is still very attractive, she is even smarter now then before and I predict that she will do just fine in time with the issue of ‘Benjamin Franklin’, lets just wish her well!

    John J. Nazarian, P.I.

    PS SEX, MONEY, CELEBRITY, AND VERY PRETTY GIRLS is always a great story, 42 reads here, thousands of hits in cyber land!

  45. Beth says:

    [44] “For some I can see the issue, she is pretty, smart and at one time had a ton of money.”

    Good Grief John!
    WTH are you on lately?

    Please for all of our sakes give the BS a rest!

    Insinuating that ANY one of us would be jealous? LOL I think not…….

    You have been very rude, I hope that in the future you keep your rudeness on your own site.

    * (unless you just like getting people riled up?) Truly, you could have made your points without the ridiculous insinuations!

  46. BEVERLY says:

    BETH and ROSE,Hope you soon will feel up to par,As far as being jealous of Michelle Braun,PLEASE,running a whore house full of woman who cater to men that cannot keep it in there pants is not my idea of someone I would be jealous of.Looks to me like she had a boob job,and other procedures.I sure do not envy a girl that would give up her body to ANY MAN FOR MONEY.

  47. BEVERLY says:

    PS—-If I was to be jealous or have envy,it would be for the woman,who have every night,the one they love by there side.who do not share weath but the love of one another,THAT JN I do envy,

  48. BEVERLY says:

    WEALTH not weath.

  49. Rose says:

    #46 and to think I was nice to Ms. Madam…. I put up a rather decent picture of her, I do have the before and after of extensive plastic surgery to make her look pretty on the outside… IYKWIM…

    Note she does not address the real issues like the SEC, the fear of some of her girls or that she never missed a beat in earning, just had a “succession plan” in place… Oh well…. C’est la vie

  50. Rose says:

    Beth I am drinking green and black tea, and it seems to be helping, I am just still weak from being sick for a week… but each day gets better and I can stay up a bit longer and do more… so I am definitely on the mend.

    Beverly I agree and would not trade what Ken and I have for all the wealth that Ms. Madam made and spent, I have never envied women like her but I do study women who like to play with fire, be infamous, and see where that takes them, like the DC Madam… wonder why the “Queen” really cares about what we write… to use her own words..”Get over it, move on, next…” yea Queenie do that…

    And about this next part

    Oh IT is SO True, “Fyi “Her Majesty” was a JOKE (an old joke btw) amongst my personal friends.” Yea between 2007 and 2009 for someone that needs those constant plastic surgeons to keep up with the younger prettier women, 2 years is like 2 years to a dog… that would be 14 years in the land of it takes forever looking young to have a business… however the woman who took over for her whiles she was temporarily out of the main roll position is young and pretty and must have brains too. So who know in the world of Hollywood Madams who it the best and Queen of all and no don’t answer Braun… read Roxanne’s post you missed the part where I agree with many we don’t give a flying F about you.

    Oh and I was nice to you, I have the before pictures and that face and body you had the last any public pictures of you were made cost you a fortune, unless it was a trade off… beauty for __________

    I will follow the SEC case and the other cases about you… remember any publicity is good publicity it keeps your name out there and the old “Johns” a tad fearful of you I would think, not to mention your ex-girls, I wouldn’t call any of them your “friend” though.

    Now folks I will have a new article with the papers listed there in just a bit… we will let her majesty play alone here until the next paperwork comes out… :wink:

  51. Beth says:

    Hello Beverly!
    I am fine dear… just Rose I was worried about; but ‘thank-you’ anyway.

    Rose,
    Glad to hear the ‘tea’ is helping.

    I have some errands to run, I am looking forward to leaving this article behind… ;)

    ~bbl this afternoon~

  52. JMA says:

    John [44] you may think 42 plus reads here but not necessarily, you see I did not read this article cause it really did not interest me [sorry Rose] I was merely addressing/agreeing with others opinions so you may see x amount of post/comments but it does not mean everyone read the article.

    I will agree with you in reference to Sex, Money & Celebrities sell but not every Pretty Girl will sell themselves short just to be part of some story. I have two very beautiful daughters who have said for all the money in the world they would never do what some Celebrities or even just Pretty Girls do in order to be noticed or become famous. Ha a few years ago some sleazy stripe club owner approached my youngest and told her she had what it takes all she had to do was come in for an interview, my girl told him never and to take a hike. Yeah he tried to convince her she would/could make a lot of money but as she told him, one her Mama raised her better and two she has more pride and self-respect for herself then to ever think of that line of work. Oh and at the time, she was a single mother and lucky to be making 8 bucks an hour. Therefore, you see the mention/flashing of money does not buy every Pretty Girl, at least not ones with morals.

  53. will says:

    #50, Bravo Rose! And thank you for pursuing this story.

  54. heath says:

    #47 Beverley that is the wonder of you..always the bottom line.

    John I can’t figure out how she got so little..a slap on the wrist when other madams got so much more…

    But jealous of someone who will always have to worry about who is knocking on her door and who could be on the phone..nope not me.

    I have a daughter I am very proud of who is educated and very very smart. I made sure she was able to stand on her own 2 feet not worry about having to use her body to get ahead. That I am proud of.

    Don’t underestimate us John, we see something is not right here.

  55. raven says:

    My comments on this is……..The day that John’s are outed and convicted along with the Madams will be a day of happiness for me. I’m not in the business of smearing or idolizing anyone.

  56. JMA says:

    heath [54] in reference to…

    “I have a daughter I am very proud of who is educated and very very smart. I made sure she was able to stand on her own 2 feet not worry about having to use her body to get ahead. That I am proud of.”

    DITTO

    raven [55] I agree once the men who pay for whatever services are provided are ousted and convicted right along with those who run these illegal establishments maybe it will prevent others from spending their money on or in places like this. I get tired of hearing well if their women took care of their needs then they would not resort to places like this, IMO that is BS!

    Hey, did you all hear about the girl who worked for Denise Hof and was shown on HBO reality series “Cathouse,” being found murdered along with three other people? Brooke Phillips was one of four people found in a burnt house she and another girl there were pregnant. The police have a former Marine in custody.

  57. JMA says:

    OK what did I do wrong my comment before this one is in Moderation :-(

  58. JMA says:

    Thank You Oh Great Moderation God/Goddess :lol:

  59. Ken says:

    JMA [57] You did nothing wrong. Sometimes the software can be too picky and moderates something because a word in the message may have as part of it a word that’s on the watch list (ie, if it’s watching for a$$, it can at times flag glass)

  60. heath says:

    A post from Swims re McCabe etc…I remember many documents filed on Friday and some at midnight from him, why is it so bad now????

    637. Whining in HC persists – McCabe delays the inevitable; Clerk’s Office plays ball

    McCabe claims that big bad CBS slipped in its ‘reply’ to VA’s ‘response’ to CBS’s MSJ at TWO minutes after 5 p:m last Friday thereby preventing McCabe from ‘curing’ alleged deficiencies pointed out by CBS before a hearing scheduled yesterday. So, McCabe files a Motion yesterday for more time to battle big bad CBS (asking for 30 days) but also files the ‘surreply’ he claimed to need 30 days to craft. The Clerk’s Office even posts CBS’s ‘reply’ on its website with a 5:02 p:m time stamp to help make McCabe’s point.

    So, McCabe didn’t need 30 days; 2 minutes after 5 made no difference; and the Clerk’s Office looks foolish for having including the time of the CBS filing.

    McCabe in his surreply drops reference to the irrelevant statement of QV but it’s otherwise the same ‘ole same ‘ole. He persists in his preposterous notion that his colluding defendant RT is ‘key’ to the allegations against AH concerning the ‘prison’ interview as well as bloggers’ comments on AH’s site and emails where people used phrases like ‘destroy VA’ and ‘dig VA dirt’.

    Now if Katie Couric had opened the CBS news with statements like CBS is out to destroy VA, etc., McCabe might have a point; otherwise get over your petty fantasies and pay out sufficient damages to ‘cure’ the immense problems caused by the ‘bloggers’ lawsuit.

    Posted at 4:20PM on Nov 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/16/larry-birkhead-anna-nicole-smith-howard-k-stern-drugs-sandeep-kapoor-khristine-eroshevich/43#comments#ixzz0X9yjbYYV

  61. Lizzie says:

    #60 Heath

    I remember that too. 5pm Friday evening used to be his regular filing time, now all of a sudden it’s “sharp practice”

  62. John J. Nazarian P.I. says:

    If the shoe fits, LMAO, ‘whores’, ‘cathouses’ , ‘johns’, ‘madames’ when you all get tired of dancing around the fire give it a rest! And for a few of you you dont trip on your robe as you climb off the ‘box’. Please go back to ANS and HKS it now seems relatively sane after reading these comments. ( for the parent of the young girl, you should be proud of yourself and of your daughter, scum like the one that approached your daughter should be hunted down and dealt with )

    While I was a cop I seldom ever enforced prostitution violations as I found that ‘most’ of the time they were victimless crimes……dont trip running for another log to throw on the fire, I said most of the time. The facts are simple, it should be licensed, controlled and tax’d as it is in San Francisco and Nevada.

    John J. Nazarian, P.I.

  63. trina says:

    Did they have prostitutes walking the streets of Mendota?? Rofl

  64. Lizzie says:

    How nice to be a cop and get to pick and choose which crimes you enforce.

  65. Ken says:

    There will be new papers up sometime tonight (most likely after tv time).

  66. JMA says:

    John [62] it was my daughter and she handle the sleaze bag on her own by telling him she was not interested and to take a hike. Trust me my husband I and knew where that strip club was located and wanted to be the over protective parents but as my daughter said she is an adult [she was 21 when this happened] and she handled it. Happy to say that club is no longer in business and I often wonder if maybe this man didn’t try to solicit under-age girls could be why it was shut down. HMM, now that I think about it he may have thought my daughter was younger then she was cause the girl has never looked her age she could easily today be mistaken for 16 or 17 to which she is not.

  67. JMA says:

    Oh crap Ken you just reminded me NCIS is on…later all!

  68. raven says:

    John said: “and for the few of you don’t trip on your robe” Who are you picking on today John?

  69. BEVERLY says:

    I have one more comment before I take the robe off.My ideas and yours JN are worlds apart.You live in a different environment,and deal with a different type of person,than I have been dealing with most of my life,and I at my age, do not plan,to change my values.What is extremely hard is teaching young adults,to grow up decent,hard working adults,I AM SICK TO DEATH of the smut they hear day after day,and you can make fun of all I believe,that is your right,enjoy yourself

  70. Beth says:

    [62] “If the shoe fits, LMAO, ‘whores’, ‘cathouses’ , ‘johns’, ‘madames’ when you all get tired of dancing around the fire give it a rest!”

    Looks like you might be out-numbered here, regarding those disrespectful interpretations……..

    Maybe it should not be any of us who gives this bullshit a rest?

    It seems to be a ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude – because many of us are indeed interested in all of the cases that came out of the Anna saga! There is probably not one of us that denies that fact.
    This does not mean we all do not have a life; in fact all of us carry on with life everyday and deal with personal issues just as I am sure others do who do not follow this story!

    Again, with the rudeness of TELLING US TO: “GIVE IT A REST” or “..go back to ANS and HKS it now seems relatively sane..”

    For someone who has been in the LE business and has been a PI…. wonder where all of the manners and finesse went to?
    No one should come to these member’s place of ‘writing’ and tell them what to do and proceed to judge us all like they really know who we are.
    It is definitely a rather ‘prickish’ thing to do, I think.

    Well that’s it for me, I’m done giving any more attention to this childishness! Besides if anyone does appear to be up on a box… think maybe they should look in the mirror and see if their imaginary coat tails are not longer than the ‘robes’ any of us here is wearing. Just a thought or a reasonable request.

  71. Roxanne says:

    Ok just a few things here……

    1. You are all seeing a very true side coming out. One that I have seen for some time now but I have choose to keep my mouth shut on it.

    2. Beth…. “It seems to be a ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude”……. SPOT ON. Talking about Robes and things…. does that include EVERYONE’S ego? Just curious.

    3. I believe it should be legal also but since it’s not, a person takes their chances.

    4. There is some “behind the scenes bias here or maybe agenda” that makes some things a little different to the perception. Let’s talk Donna D. and Nikki Sixx for a minute shall we?

    5. WHO REALLY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THIS PERSON OR WHAT SHE DID? I mean really. It’s a case that Rose followed because she was interested in.

    Like Beth, I’m done with this subject. I wasn’t even interested in reading the article until after I read what Ms. Braun said in the first place.

  72. John J. Nazarian P.I. says:

    Mendota during the ’season’ has at times more prostitutes than San Franciso it seemed……’selective’ enforcement is what it is called and is very common in many jurisdictions. One great example is what ‘motor officers’ do, mostly give tickets to traffic violators….selectively.

    Ooops, I almost forgot, there is little difference in being ‘ bitchy ‘ and ‘prickish’ that is what I think, who would disagree?

    John J. Nazarian, P.I.

  73. Sammy1 says:

    Beth, please check your email.

  74. Liann says:

    Rox, Spot on !!, Beth and you hit the nail on the head!!!!!!!!, Kudos, I have noticed biased from him from way back and if he is called on it imo he belittles, Whatever, I still enjoy his pun and I am still waiting for his book (2010), imo “bitchy”,”prickish” goes hand and hand with his arrogance. he owns it imo, well, I don’t always agree with John but he is interesting, he does not intimidate us woman and should not tell us what to discuss regarding public cases imo, I wonder if he is bored much.., John you speak in so many riddles, Whatever.

  75. Liann says:

    #39 JMA, I totally agree, imo same shit different day.

  76. DiamondGirl says:

    OK, my two cents worth? Make it 4 cents.

    I agree it should be legalized and controlled and taxed. I agree that if prostitutes gets busted so should the john. I think that is very logical. Let me remind people that when this was first posted many months ago, the woman was worried about the influence everything would have on her daughter. I guess the outfit in the picture with enough material to cover the nipples would pass her daughters approval. I can hear it now “Man mom, you look like……. you look very……. oh chit, get something else on.

    Sorry, she doesn’t impress me. Like I have stated before I have more respect for Fleiss than I do for someone who will sell out her johns to save her own ass. If she wants to ply her trade, then go where it is legal. I think that is really simple solution to it. If her high class (?) johns wants the women she offers, they will go to them. There really should be no sex slave trafficing across state lines.

    Nice to hear that police, pick and choose who they will charge for breaking the law.

    Now back to my normal channel….

  77. JMA says:

    Beth [70] I will admit I had no interest in this one cannot really explain why I just did not. Now the one concerning the DC Madam and her committing suicide peaked my interest due to I wanted to know who, what and why.

    Roxanne [71] you always have the right words to say, spot on girl.

    Liann [74] I’m with you I may not agree with John on every aspect but he is interesting and I do like that, he shares stories from his life with all of us. With that said, I am not interested in seeing him degrade anyone here and I feel with him using certain names when wanting to get the attention of a certain person is well, childish. As you said though there are many women here, who are not intimidated by him and as Beth put it, he is out-numbered so if he has a problem with one of us he has a problem with all of us.

    DiamondGirl ~~ I’m with you on the “Now back to my normal channel” Rose or Ken didn’t you say a NEW article was coming :-)

  78. JMA says:

    PS,

    For the record, I have witness some men skip being ‘pricky’ and go straight up ‘bitch’ but you are right Liann they do/can go hand-in-hand :lol:

  79. DesertWalker says:

    Seems to me Naz and we are all allowed our opinions.

    Anyone who thinks LE doesn’t selectively enforce the law is just being naive. Hypothetically right or wrong aside – it’s how the world works. I suspect everyone has been relieved to get a warning instead of a ticket at one time or another.

    It’s just sad that the insults are now occurring here too.

  80. hmm says:

    DesertWalker yes it is sad that the insults are occurring.I still think John owes Bev an apology and am waiting for it. Come on john I know you have it in you. She was expressing and opinion just like you do. I think we have all seen how selectively the law is applied and I have read many comments about the DC madam where people still think she was killed and it was made to look like suicide and knowing the Washington elite it just could be.Think of all the money involved and MS Baum has it to burn it seems so do her contacts in out of state areas protect her???

  81. hmm says:

    Prostitution is legal in San Francisco Really ???I thought it was only legal in Nevada.At least when it is legal the women are protected and have health care and check ups to keep them safe from infections ect.One way to keep things from spreading,hopefully

  82. John J. Nazarian P.I. says:

    Alright, I apologize to Beverly…..never to Roxanne!

    John J. Nazarian, P.I.

  83. Roxanne says:

    HaHa. LMAO. Last thing I would want from you. How’s it being my bitch…… :)

  84. BEVERLY says:

    DEAR Hmm——Thank you for your kind words,and John,I am trying to teach my sister grandchildren,never be false,I have a hard time with a coerced apology.I love things comming from one’s own heart,I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR ROXANNE, AND I HAVE LIVED THROUGH WHAT SHE IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.I thank you for your written apology.

  85. DesertWalker says:

    Nice language #83. You all have a nice time playing in the gutter.

  86. Ken says:

    Rose is working on getting a new article up. We are closing these comments down, as it’s getting out of hand.

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