ROXANNE > MY HEART IS JUST BREAKING FOR YOU DEAR!
You have my email, if you need to talk let me know anytime day or night.

Bev
Give em hell girl.
JMA
Don’t let em get away with anything
Susieq
I just don’t know what to say…..lol

:edited by me to keep from cornfuzzling others:

hmm [15] yes we have and the same goes for when she gave that interview to ET. She was not under the influence of anything when she gave that interview, nope she was pissed off at her ignorant estrange mother.

I have lost my joy.

Ken and I are keeping in close contact with Roxanne and will let you know how she is doing…

At times, I remember a comment or a img being presented and the response would be…”where did you get that”? Now it’s pretty obvious. Wonder what img’s or files were deleted? Something that would incriminate the SC folk or did they delete words/sentences/emails? That can be recovered can’t it?

I guess I’m not the only one that can be vindictive at times. Not a great trait, I know. Much worse if you have to make it up as you go along or ‘fabricate’ to get to your end goal.

* heath, [22] from Swims…

“The prosecution is not even trying anymore to look and sound legitimate.
Whatever charges might survive this tabloid dog and pony show prelim will never survive appeal.”

“Posted at 7:27PM on Oct 28th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”

EXACTLY CORRECT!

BUT! Can you imagine the time and costs?

*** THIS IS WHAT TX has strived for!!! They just wanted to do DAMAGE!
The outcome, most likely will get some ‘railroaded charges’ that stick.
Maybe a reprieve after two more years of fighting… Just Sickening!

TX most likely does not care about the result of their actions…
JUST that the ‘actions’ are making it difficult for these people!
REVENGE; PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
THEY LOST, SO THEY WANT TO MAKE YOU PAY!
They have enough money, they do not care who, what lawyer you pay,
it seems to me… they just want YOU TO SUFFER! JMHO on those creeps!

* Beverly, ISN’T THAT THE TRUTH! ^^^^^^
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The ONLY conspiracy is the one that TX (with SC’s help) CONCOCTED to SET UP HKS!
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* Sammy, still waiting for Harvey’s surprise! ;)
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* pixiesmom, there are many ACCIDENTAL OVERDOSES each year from prescriptions medicines.
There are many reasons, body tolerance, not taking the medicine correctly, and the INTERACTION of more than one medicine at the same time.

“Prescription Drugs Play Increasing Role in Overdoses”

http://www.healthystates.csg.org/NR/rdonlyres/3F157E26-8562-4F09-BD45-DFC39D17A918/0/AccidentalOverdoseSNFEB092.pdf

“As recent tragedies shine the spotlight on accidental drug
overdoses, it’s becoming increasingly clear that prescription
drugs are playing an increasing role in accidental deaths.
States are doing something about it.”

“Drug overdose deaths are on the rise in
the United States, but it’s not what you
might think.

They are accidents.

Many states are reconsidering policies
to combat prescription drug overdoses in
light of new statistics and recent tragedies.”
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Well its gonna be a busy day, it is too cold here this morning!
BRRrrr!
Have a nice day everyone.

I wonder if Wood will be asking if any of those nuts blogged? If their family blogged? I think its a very good possibility. Get it? Area known as the Carolinas? And…I doubt, but I hope we see a new bloggers case soon. All those in receipt of said stolen materials and who posted them. Every dang one of them.

I was disappointed in Wood not asking about Vice blogging. I always thought that would have come out and put an end to all those rumors. Maybe one day it will.

Beth…………..I have noticed a pattern over time, as Im sure you have as well. Every time, not sometimes, every time I bring up the SC clan at the dark dungeon, they attack me, my kids, and all my family repeatedly without holding back one ounce of vile. I mean they do it always with me anyway, but more severe when the SC clan is mentioned in a negative way. Odd, very odd. Something has always been odd about Topix and SC clan. Not sure what it is, but Im sure it will come out at some point. There are certain bloggers who can write anything and never get banned. They can stalk, post names, addresses, The most vile and vulgar posts ever, and all about your family and not so much as a hand spank. Rose, TS, Lyndal, and many know this as fact. That part is a known fact. Even known, I will never give up, till this story ends. Made it my volunteer mission to see justice for all bloggers and Howard with his family. And poor little Dannielynn and Larry too being trashed so badly. Nuff said there. LOL. There are some very inteteresting links I found and have been reading about that place. No wonder they are complained about so much. There are several threads regarding this subject.

Rose……………In the game a while back with the video with them at the Horizons when we were all guessing who was there, was it ever said or told who was there? It went on for many articles but I dont remember it ever being said. I was in and out of town, so I might have missed it. So was it that clan that was there as I hinted to and we all thought? I just dont remember the end of that. LOL

And…why would TS think you would be smoozing with einy and Kerry in the first place? What evidence does she have? That is not making any sense at all. So Im sure there is more I dont know about for her to make such a claim.

Also, all these folks losing stuff on their puters around this story…………..hmmmm………..and all these puter experts. Make me think!

Nite all. I hope SC clan gets all coming to them, as they dished out to Howard and his life. If Howard is found guilty of something by a court, them so be it. But dont go making crap up for the sake of having him found guilty, when innocent. Lady justice does not work this way.

Exhibit F is SB’s letter of 9-25-09 to McCabe telling him that G. Ben wished to withdraw from the ‘Common Interest’ agreement (the one written and signed only by McCabe; McCabe added SB’s signature with a notation ‘by permission’) and asking McCabe to obey the law and return all of the copies of the stolen materials from ‘Horizons’ that he possesses and to confirm that McCabe didn’t disseminate any of the materials to others.

Note to SB – his own bloggers confirm that McCabe was a busy bee distributing stolem EM to others.

Posted at 9:49PM on Oct 28th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

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329. Just for fun – FS’s take on the ‘Clown Video’

Beginning at Line 13 of page 140 of FS’s 6-2-09 depo, Volume One, which is on PACER Doc# 77-2 of the SC case #4:08-CV-02753, Exhibit E and on page 45 of 49; these are FS’s words.

13 Anna sold videos. Howard sold – and did
14 these videos because he found out he could make money
15 from it; okay? I was mad because he videotaped my
16 daughter and was doing it. Anna being f*ucked up on
17 video is not something that he deliberately went and
18 drugged her to do this. I said earlier, I believe she
19 had a reaction to it. He was videotaping it. Yeah,
20 he said it was going to be worth a lot of money, but
21 he knew there was no harm, no foul; okay? But my
22 daughter was too young to not know what was going on.
23 I’m mad about that.
24 But as far as to show him in a bad light,
25 the media, they can turn whatever they want to. I
(page 141 of depo – page 46 of 49 on PACER doc 77-2)
1 didn’t mean it to happen that way.
(Original question stems from page 93 of depo, page 44 of 49 of Doc 77-2)
22 Q. Have you heard Howard discuss the clown
23 video and discuss the fact that Anna was, in effect,
24 playing a child character?
25 A. I did. I remember – I remember that.
(followed by several pages of redactions)

Easiest to ‘read’ if you imagine a SC accent.

Posted at 7:29PM on Oct 28th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

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328. HKS Prelim Day 11 – Another ‘expert’ bites the dust 10-28-2009

• Add another prosecution ‘professional’ who ends up looking foolish and misleading

• Renee tries for tabloid headlines again – struck down – told to move along

Dr. Gagne on Tuesday (Day 10): Dr. K ‘trying to keep a lid’ on ANS’s psychiatric problem with methadone; Dr. Gagne on Wednesday (Day 11): Oops, “I was misled”, methadone is not a big deal in this story, but, but, but … Dr. K ‘overprescribed’. Too late, no one believes you anymore.

Slice-gate, then Dr. Maullin who never diagnosed or discussed ‘addiction’ and now Dr. Gagne who has been telling a story not supported by any other witness nor the medical records – what the hell is going on here?

As AP’s Linda Deutsch relates from today; ““She was an expert at manipulating physicians into giving her the drugs she craved,” Gagne said.” So this supports criminal charges against whom for what?

As was the case since March 12, 2009, when JB pranced/stumbled forth to proclaim his greatness and offer up preposterous charges against HKS/K/E, the prosecution needed top-flight unimpeachable experts and leaders in their fields to testify to the elements of the alleged crimes. Instead, confused and misleading ‘experts’ have been brought forth. Eye witnesses FOR the prosecution have struck done all the elements of the crimes charged.

JB/Renee Rose read their shtick, which was never funny only false, from VA’s lawsuits’ allegations. Crap in Houston is still crap in Los Angeles.

• What this should be is a disciplinary proceeding with the Medical Board and the two Doctors.

So Jon Genens the Board’s investigator tells the tale of two sets of medical records kept by Dr. K; identical except for the ‘official’ set kept at Dr. K’s lawyer’s office. The ‘official’ set removed the ‘notes to ones self’ entries (that all Doctors make on their records) regarding possible benzo and methadone dependence; a very minor thing. As Judge Perry opined this may represent a consciousness of guilt. A regrettable move for Dr. K to be sure, since lawyers zero in on these tiny details to the exclusion of all else (and common sense). A letter of reprimand from the Board maybe; when hunted by government authorities on tabloid charges DO NOT change even a comma on your records.

• Desperate Renee Rose tries to introduce Daniel Smith’s accidental death to the proceedings

The prosecution is not even trying anymore to look and sound legitimate. Whatever charges might survive this tabloid dog and pony show prelim will never survive appeal.

Posted at 7:27PM on Oct 28th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

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* Have you tried downloading the Adobe Reader (newest download) it is free, and it should pull up the downloads for you. [dial-up or high speed]
http://www.adobe.com/downloads/

If that doesn’t work just copy the Description of the doc and the link:
‘ October 28, 2009 Emails between Luke Lantta and Susan McDonald where she consented on behalf of her clients for The Estate of Anna Nicole Smith filing a Motion for Leave (permission) to add additional defendants to the existing lawsuit against G. Ben Thompson and Ford Shelley.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2615 ‘

Email to Rose and I bet she can email the document back in an attachment reply email.

From [16]
“.. if this case is dismissed or lost can a judge rule that VA has to pay all the cost of the Pro Se defendants?”

It TAKES money to file another case to request getting paid for false allegations, time, and suffering.
IF a Judge finds the plaintiff and plaintiff’s counsel to be egregiously pursuing them with NO BASIS or UNPROVED HARM of VA…

YES, IF they have stated (the ones w/ lawyers always asks for costs) in their filings (towards the end) to be awarded costs then if
clear proof can be shown that the plaintiff KNEW all along there was no merit to the false allegations… Judges have been known to
have the other side pay their costs. Mostly, I believe you have to file a seperate civil suit if it is not clearly shown that you have been
suckered into a baseless case due to the malice of the person(s) filing the suit against you. LOL Not very clear now that I read that back.
Am tired tonight.
BB tomorrow.

From previous, thread…

Ken [159] why does everyone but me :-( gets special accommodation whenever their posts are hung up somewhere? Yes, I’m referring to this tidbit “you were just in the ‘waiting’ pool. They serve cocktails there.” hmm, now I’m feeling like the red headed stepchild here and yes, I’m throwing a hissy fit.

OK that looks like a lot of reading to do so I think I will hold off until tomorrow, night all.

How far and wide past the O’Q lawfirm did those files and photos go? Some have already admitted they have copies. Do they just wipe their hard drive? Did Geraldo/Fox only get a copy of the clown video or did they get assorted items also? Wilma proclaimed over and over..wait and SEE….was she the one who passed to bloggers? Cosby and lawyers poured over the info also…wasn’t that used to make her defense? With the new? info that Cosby was involved from the beginning, can the judge amend the requisits for what heads to trail?

Who was on the plane as they were pouring over the pics? So many more questions…think I’ll have to read Art’s site again…

FS finally admits ANS was not stoned in the ‘Clown Video’ – just acting

OMG we have been saying that for almost 3 year.

Bombshell Highlights:

• FS finally admits ANS was not stoned in the ‘Clown Video’ – just acting

FS in his depo makes it clear that he was aware of how ANS and HKS would make outrageous videos for her website to earn revenue. FS was upset that Riley got involved in one of these videos when Riley was too young to understand it was all for fun.

• Agent Santiago travelled to SC to procure a copy of the stolen ‘Clown Video’

After the October, 2007 highly publicized raids on the homes/offices of Drs. K & E, Agent Santiago travelled to see FS/G. Ben and SB to personally take possession of what he knew was a copy of a stolen video. SB claims amnesia as to which of the people in the room actually handed Santiago the stolen video.

• Cosby aggressively courted FS to vouch for her and her book’s content

Well, that didn’t work out. Cosby/McNamara actively seeking false testimony is a recurrent theme for them. LOL McNamara in a cheesy way in an email to SB makes it seem like FS approached her yet it was McNamara that was going to write the declarations and have FS and the Thompsons (plus Lori Payne) sign them. McNamara at least was aware that Wood would tear her apart if she showed up with declarations from FS that in any way were not supportive of HKS (i.e. were false).

• McCabe and Clark took possession of stolen materials for nefarious purposes

Expressly for the purpose of defaming and framing HKS, McCabe (with Clark as his bagman) sought out what he knew for a fact was stolen EM from ‘Horizons’. Renee Rose has been crying and whining to Judge Perry to introduce these knowingly stolen images (no chain of custody, likely altered) ever since.

• McCabe actively and separately courted both FS and G. Ben as clients!

Just as Cosby couldn’t for herself, McCabe couldn’t ‘induce’ anyone to stand up for VA either.

• CA DOJ and the TX cabal are both in possession of stolen materials

And both knew that they were stolen at the time they took possession. SB was still in violation of a Federal Court injunction at the time of the depo! She had kept copies of some of the stolen EM on her computer after being forced by the Court to turn over the USB drives she had finally retrieved from McCabe. Wood stopped the depo at one point and demanded SB and her attorney hand over the stolen materials right there right then to him. The O’Q crew and their bloggers are still in violation of that injunction since none have personally returned their copies of the stolen materials.

Posted at 12:07AM on Oct 28th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

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313. H.S.,

“Gina and Melanie –I found them to be sickening they way they poured through ANS things her bedroom, –disgusting. Betcha the redacted parts have all the good stuff, like the FRIDGE PHOTO in which the refrigerator happened to be open? Good ole boy Gaither isn’t very bright…yuk…never mentioned an open refrigerator but sure talked about the master bedroom, Anna’s wall sketches they stole, FS with a fistful of docs in his hands and ‘Tracy’ with a fistful in her hands–FS reading the docs.

All day at Horizons! They spent the whole day stealing and nosying around. Right under the noses of the paparazzi. Brown’s depo was really redacted big time–I take it when she was given five minutes to produce docs she had held back–she returned with nothing. Then redactions.”
*****
Baby Ben and the others were so remarkably arrogant in their depos. SB would say “no” first then have the truth dragged out of her repeatedly. SB seemed very afraid to spit out the names of the TX cabal members.

Anyone thinking the SC crew was in the ‘none-too-bright’ category will not be disabused of that notion after reading their depos.

The heavily redacted ‘goodies’ may appear in CA if necessary. On the public record already are the highly questionable actions of Santiago. Just a thought …

Posted at 12:14AM on Oct 28th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

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314. Posted at 12:07AM on Oct 28th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

Morning everyone,
Well, I had a chance to go on late last evening… WTH is going on in that sandpit? Holy Cow! First there is only mention of the new filings by 2 VAS, then the one that was posting trash directly to the 3 yr. old (DL) ps>stating her WHOLE unique name to boot! Starts in on someone’s children… then they defend themselves and it goes on forever! NO talk of the case – just insults to someone’s family to DEFLECT I guess… SICKENING!
To top it off, the vas pick on a person THEN turn around and blame that poster for sticking up for themselves and their family, like it was ALL the victim’s fault!
And others join in on the insanity and gang up on a HKS supporter. CRAZY!

Then the one that used to come on here a few times (wulfie) responds to a comment; “Woody filed today adding Susan Brown and her firm as defendants in the SC suit but no Texas Cabal. lol” by answering;
“lolol….I’ll bet Nelda and crew are expelling gold bricks at that one.”

** Since I am one of the ‘crew’ I would like to express my opinion and thoughts… *> OF COURSE BELOW IS: JMO on how it looks to me…

- The vas state repeatedly that no charges have been filed on theft of Horizons. (like NO WRONG was ever done??) What if that happened to them?
> many of us have stated forever that they have NOT been exposed in a case in a Court of law YET!

- “gold bricks” HA! I think NOT!
> I bet that the defendants will either ‘out’ the TX cabal in the trial transcript enough for a copy to be sent to the Judicial Bar of Ethics for lawyers, you know the agency that determines if you have MISUSED your profession as an Officer of the Court… then >> DISBARRMENT!
> Or, as LW suggested in the transcripts, TX cabal can be brought in by S. Brown or any/all of the Defendants as THIRD PARTY defendants… so they can SHARE in the RESTITUTION of any profit made from the use of STOLEN PROPERTY, and can SHARE in the CRIMINAL MALICIOUS (intent to DO HARM to others) DISTRIBUTION of STOLEN PROPERTY!

The vas need to ask themselves,WHEN McC and GANG couldn’t get FS/GBT to ‘bite’ at suing HKS…. The cabal then dreamed up this so called conspiracy to defame VA. ABSURD! TX NEEDED to get HKS, LB into some KIND OF LEGAL SUIT to TRY and subpoena their personal docs in order to have some type of HOLD on them to have LEVERAGE to ‘deal’ with them on the potential Marshall Estate! (my theory from reading their actions)
WHO ended up suffering for this COCKED UP FALSE STORY of conspiracy re: VA?
Well two innocent bloggers ended up in jail, many defendants have paid thousands of dollars for FALSE CIVIL ALLEGATIONS…
All the time it was done (the case in TX) for a couple of reasons, NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR CLIENT!
- Leverage to make HKS, LB BEND to their will
- PREMEDITATED ACTION of filing a false case(s) against HKS, LB, in order to DEFLECT their (TX cabal) actions of their OWN CONSPIRACY to take down HKS.

e.g. Trying to get FS, then later GBT to sue HKS AND Anna’s Estate for God knows what… AGAIN, pressure to BEND to THEIR WILL!
e.g. TX then settling on their MADE UP case of a defamation against VA, when there were NO PUBLISHED DEFAMATION with intent to harm by anyone!
Hell! TMZ does the same to public figures everyday, TX FEDERAL COURT found VA to be a limited public figure due to her SOLICITING $ from the media…

So I repeat; I think NOT regarding expelling the gold bricks….

We always have said here… WAIT until the real TRUTH, the ORIGINS of actions from the start comes out of the SC/GA case (s)…
It (SC case) was ‘down-played’ as not a big deal by the vas, hogwash!
CRIMINAL CHARGES will come out of these cases, they have permanently damaged ANS’s Estate by their actions.
FS and crew MADE MONEY STEALING FROM A WOMAN WHO PASSED AWAY HOURS BEFORE!

Then they had the gall to take them to their ‘people’ to do forensics searches on STOLEN COMPUTER HARD DRIVES!
AND! Actually ADMIT that crap in emails NOW, NOW, >>>> SUBMITTED to a Court of Law! ** PERMANENTLY ON RECORD! **
How F-ing Embarrassing is that for ANY human being ESPECIALLY lawyers and a former federal agent!

LOL I HONESTLY do NOT think a ‘oral agreement’ or later a signed consent to ’share’ STOLEN PROPERTY will ‘FLY’ in ANY COURT!
* NOT EVEN IN TEXAS!!! imho of course!

(sorry for the CAPS, I was ‘yelling’ my frustrations of the true conspiracies of that group!) *SHAME ON THEM ALL!
LOOK at the lives they have ruined! NEVER-EVER was it about their client… or DL… GREED, only GREED it seems. OF COURSE REVENGE for being sued for defamation themselves in FL – added to this PREMEDITATED MALICIOUS CONSPIRACY TO HARM OTHER INDIVIDUALS… so it seems, so it is. IMO

Edited at the posters request by Rose

I forgot to explain–he was hoping to represent FS and Gaither (‘whereas they are contemplating legal action)see P.2. That was May 15, 2008 (when Clark picked up the drives) he signed that Consent Agreement. His email was June. HKS sued in August.

Posted at 11:54PM on Oct 27th 2009 by Howard Supporter

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