California P. I. John J. Nazarian with his client

Court started at 8:00 AM this morning, October 16, 2009 on day four of the preliminary hearing in Los Angeles California. First up is the re-direct examination by assistant D. A. Renee Rose for the state of California of Maurice “Big Mo” Brighthaupt. That has been scheduled by most to last about one and ½ hours by many court observers. It did come to light yesterday that “Big Mo” made $100k on one interview following Anna Nicole Smith’s death.

Mid-morning will begin the direct examination by Renee Rose of Larry Birkhead, he is expected to be pro Howard K. Stern but might be hostile to Dr. Kapoor and Dr. Eroshevich. Adam Braun, attorney for Eroshevich, he had just received an audio tape from the state of Birkhead’s interview with them and had not had time to fully examine it on Tuesday of this week.

The state is keeping their cards close as to what witnesses will be appearing on which days. There are hints around the courthouse that Superior Court Judge Robert J. Perry may shut down the preliminary hearing early next week. He is showing some impatience often heard saying, “This is not murder trial” and “Whose fault is it that somebody takes too many pills?” However yesterday during the cross examination by Steve Sadow of “Big Mo” the judge said they could keep this going for six months if the attorneys really wanted to do that.

I keep going back to why a public preliminary hearing which is a basic walk through preview of what might come up at trial, in lieu of a Grand Jury which the outcome would have been a finding of enough evidence to go to trial. They both, I am told, end up at the same place so why this, and not the close door hearing?

Don Clark is not in California as a “material hostile witness” for Howard K. Stern, he is expected back by next Tuesday, October 20 with Wilma Vicedomine and Tom Pirtle, I would think Stern’s legal team might reschedule that for after Wednesday October 21 since there will be no court on Wednesday.

UPDATE ONE: The redirect examination of Maurice “Big Mo” Brighthaupt has been completed by Assistant D. A. Renee Rose. Larry Birkhead is on the stand now and is expected to defend Howard K. Stern and point the finger at the two doctors, he is under going direct examination by the D. A. right now. Big Mo also testified not only did he see Dr. Eroshevich inject Anna Nicole Smith ONLY once in those 5 months but he also saw the bottle of B-12 and stated that was what Dr. Eroshevich used.

UPDATE TWO: Larry Birkhead is being very polite to Renee Rose showing his good southern manners but on a lot of questions he is answering either “I don’t know”, or “I can’t remember”. He should be a huge boost for Howard K. Stern after 2 days of Big Moe.

Keep up with Rose Speaks throughout the day today as we bring you the up to minute happening in California in the Howard K. Stern, Dr. Sandeep Kapoor and Dr. Khristine Eroshevich preliminary hearing, we have several court watchers rotating in and out of the court room giving us the feel of the court, I am sure each one will have that person’s personal take of this.

LATEST FILINGS IN THE TEXAS FIRST COURT OF APPEALS BY ART HARRIS.

October 16, 2009 Art Harris Motion to Strike certain exhibits and addendum filed with Virgie Arthur’s Response to Art Harris Motion for Writ of Mandamus.

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October 16, 2009 Art Harris’ Reply filed in regards to Real Party of Interest, Virgie Arthur’s, Response to Art Harris Motion for Writ of Mandamus.

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99 Responses to “Howard K. Stern, Dr. Sandeep Kapoor and Dr. Khristine Eroshevich, Preliminary Hearing California day Four as it Happens!”
  1. BEVERLY says:

    Good Morning Everyone—-Beth,I do not think Jerry Brown is going to come out of this case smelling like a rose.In the first place,the judge is sharp(thank God) not a Judge Lindsay,he wants facts of the case not tabloid gossip,second,and that pure fact is,with Howard there was never any crimminal intent.Did he allow his name on bottle’s of meds for Anna,yes,all Hollywood was doing the same thing,it should fall on the doctor,NOT Howard,So far I have seen a Judge Chin,and I love it,I myself need to see,the judicial system working the way I believed in the Law all my life .Howard has paid a very high price for his love for Anna,it is time to leave this man to grive in peace.Moe was painting a picture of Dr E as concerned about Anna drug use,well,there is a BIG PROBLEM HERE,A Doctor who has a concern for a depressed person,and meds she is taking,WOULD NEVER prescribe CH to her pt that was tying to be like MM.There is with me another problem. Howard put his trust in Tas as a RN,AND Moe as a EMT,I would assume that is why Dr E left and went back to Cal,there were two medical personal to watch Anna,touble is THEY DID NOT.and I TRULY BELIEVE DON CLARK is pushing Jerry Brown,

  2. DiamondGirl says:

    So Moe admits he lied for over $150,000.00 but is telling the truth now? How about the fact that he could have helped Anna after her death if he would have told the TRUTH to Perper and everyone else.

  3. Beth says:

    Beverly,
    I agree with you.
    JB got his publicity (15 min), his talking to the public; ‘HERE! Look at what I am doing to clean up the State of CA…’ BS
    JB STARTED this on lies from TX, then threw it to Renee R. and her office to try to work with the lies from the people with the agendas to TAKE DOWN HKS!
    JB might as well have just given Renee R. the nickname; ‘patsy’… imo
    There seem to be a lot of those w/ that nickname in this saga.

  4. Beth says:

    repost:
    ~~~~~

    “The facts don’t fit the Prosecution ‘story’ (no surprise) and I agree it is tiring. It’s stunning that Renee Rose would enter a Court to rhyme off the McCabe/Clark B.S. that JB and others were sold (and campaign with) without having taken the time to catch a clue. She’s doing the JB/TX cabal song-and-dance with a Cosby twist.

    Let’s see the ‘witnesses’ who tie any of those ‘overt acts’ into some sort of crime. Let’s hear the evidence of a conspiracy. Let’s hear the legal arguments (with real medical experts to back it up) that support charges of ‘illegal prescribing’, ‘no known medical condition’ and ‘known addict’.

    The Prosecution knows it has a weak case and is trying to bamboozle a Judge with sick and twisted ‘TX cabal’ malicious fabrications to create felonies and conspiracies. Surprise, real people existed in the private life of ANS; it was not a TV show.

    Attention CA voters: These are your precious tax dollars being wasted to satisfy the greed of out-of-state agitators and the political ambitions of a has-been.

    Posted at 3:43AM on Oct 16th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”

    ~~~~~

    * FELONIES & CONSPIRACIES cannot be CREATED! I agree with that!

    The same goes for the WEAK blogger case in TX.
    The SAME law firm that is behind these WEAK accusations in CA with NO proof!

    Open your eyes vas! Do you not find it very obvious the only CONSPIRACY there ever was is the one of O’Q, McC, DC, his untrained assistant, VA, RC, DO, MH, JH, MS, ect…
    ** THESE are the people who would benefit if HKS was taken down!!!

    Thank God for LB, the fact that he is a loving father to DL. Can you imagine if that bunch from TX got near that child?
    Very scary, as to just how ethical she would grow up… jmo

  5. Beth says:

    2009 Criminal Justice Awards

    http://www.metnews.com/articles/2009/offi042109.htm

    “Based on his “consistent demonstration of legal excellence in the field of criminal law,”
    the section’s Executive Committee said it selected Perry as Judge of the Year.
    Perry was appointed to the bench in 1992 by then Gov. Pete Wilson after spending seven years in private practice.
    A former Assistant U.S. Attorney, Perry served in the Narcotics and Financial Investigations sections between 1973 and 1985.”

  6. Beth says:

    ** A clue to how interested TMZ, the State of CA, or any State for that matter is in this case about ANS….

    The only LIVE STREAM TMZ is doing now;

    “Live — Lindsay Lohan in Court
    Posted Oct 16th 2009 11:45AM by TMZ Staff
    Lindsay Lohan is about to show up in court for a progress report stemming from her 2007 DUI arrest,
    after sources tell TMZ she’s allegedly flunking her alcohol education program.
    She’ll show with her lawyer, Shawn Chapman Holley.”

  7. Rose says:

    OK on the front page of the site http://www.rosespeaks.com is a survey about which cases you would like for us to follow…. if you select “other” then please a note as to which other or email one of us and let us know…

  8. trina says:

    A preliminary hearing in a criminal case is the norm. In California anyways. In some cases where the prosecution feels that they do not have enough to indict, or where the witnesses need protection, a Grand Jury could be called. This is not a Grand Jury case. The state has already filed its information, and feel the charges are warranted. There are no witnesses that need protection (lol) and all this bs is already out in the public. It is too late for secrecy.

  9. trina says:

    According to the California Grand Jurors Association, the district attorney much more frequently bypasses the grand jury and uses the process known as a preliminary hearing. A 1954 survey of California district attorneys listed the following factors as influential in the decision to seek a grand jury indictment rather than using the preliminary hearing:

    1)
    High public interest in the case;

    2)
    The fact that a preliminary hearing would take more time than a grand jury hearing;

    3)
    The necessity for calling children or witnesses who would be subject to cross-examination at a preliminary hearing;

    4)
    The existence of a weak or doubtful case which the district attorney wishes to test;

    5)
    Cases involving malfeasance in office; and

    6)
    The fact that witnesses are in a state prison.

    A more recent study adds the following reasons for using the grand jury:

    1)
    Cases where the defendant cannot be located and the time limit under the statute of limitations is about to expire,

    2)
    Where the secrecy of the grand jury may allow defendants to be charged and taken into custody before they can pose potential danger to a witness’s safety or flee from the jurisdiction,

    3)
    The need to protect the identity of undercover agents,

    4)
    And the ability to test a witness before a jury.

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  11. Sammy1 says:

    Here’s the latest from TMZ – not much but Larry is on the stand.

    Posted Oct 16th 2009 12:50PM by TMZ Staff

    Larry Birkhead is on the stand in the preliminary hearing involving Anna Nicole and the defendants who allegedly fueled her drug habit.

    Birkhead just testified between August, 2004 and May, 2006, he saw Anna take the following drugs regularly: Topamax, Lasix, Klonopin, Valium, Xanax, Potassium and Methadone.

    He has not talked about whether Howard K. Stern or the two other defendants — Sandeep Kapoor and Kristine Eroshevich helped facilitate Anna’s drug use.

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/16/larry-birkhead-anna-nicole-smith-howard-k-stern-drugs-sandeep-kapoor-khristine-eroshevich/#ixzz0U7es4uED

  12. Sammy1 says:

    Under cross-examination, Smith’s bodyguard testified that it hurt Smith that people thought Stern was forcing her to take drugs.

    “I don’t think that he purposely forced her to take any drugs, no,” Brighthaupt said, while saying under later questioning that Stern treated Smith “like his possession.”

    Stern’s lead attorney, Steve Sadow, has said Smith “believed in her doctors and relied in good faith on their medical judgment,” adding that they “prescribed her medicine for valid and legitimate reasons” while respecting her wishes to protect her privacy.”

    Read the entire article here though we’re heard the remaining portion before.

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_13571736

  13. Rose says:

    I just put a new update up of what Larry Birkhead’s demeanor is in court under direct examination by Renee Rose

  14. BEVERLY says:

    Moe and Tas are medical professionals,Moe thinks Dr E is such a nice person,well that tells me I would not want him near me in a ambulance,We and the court are not going for a nice person.but was this Dr correct in her prescriping of Meds for Anna,and did she handle her pt correctly.The answer is NO,Did she not think,Anna in her depressed state would not swollow that CH?,and if she had such a close relationship with Anna,she most certain could have talked Anna into a hospital or ordered it.Tas sure as hell could care less weather Anna was getting taken of,she had to be told to check Anna,There is a long list of people that destroyed Anna,and Howard K Stern is not one of them.Dr E let friendship get in the way of her medical judgement,If she did not admit Anna to Hospital,she should have stayed with her,sick and depressed she takes off on her pt.

  15. Beth says:

    Yes Beverly,
    I am coming to the conclusion the minute the pharmacist said to Dr. E… Are you kidding me on that list she wanted.. (paraphrasing)
    She should have STOPPED treating ANS.

    I wonder if she was not a bit star struck herself?

    Not blaming her for Anna’s demise mind you.
    Anna is the only one to blame IMO, You cannot tell a grown person what or what not to put in their body.
    You cannot monitor a grown person every second 24 hours each day.

    No one, probably including Anna intentionally did harm to her, that is WHY:

    IT WAS RULED: AN ACCIDENTAL DEATH!!!

  16. Rose says:

    I just corrected what Big Mo said “Big Mo also testified not only did he see Dr. Eroshevich inject Anna Nicole Smith ONLY once in those 5 months but he also saw the bottle of B-12 and stated that was what Dr. Eroshevich used.”

    Although he maintained what he had said about HKS

    Today Birkhead is taking up for HKS and Dr. Eroshevich and putting the blame of Anna’s drug use from 2004 through May 2006 right into Dr. Kapoor’s lap…

  17. Sammy1 says:

    Birkhead says he saw Anna Nicole Smith take drugs
    By LINDA DEUTSCH AP Special Correspondent
    Posted: 10/16/2009 03:24:18 AM PDT
    Updated: 10/16/2009 11:33:18 AM PDT

    LOS ANGELES—Larry Birkhead, who gained fame in a custody battle over Anna Nicole Smith’s daughter, testified Friday that he regularly saw the ex-model take prescription drugs, including methadone.
    Birkhead took the stand in a preliminary hearing to determine whether two doctors and Smith’s lawyer-boyfriend should stand trial on charges of conspiracy to illegally provide her with controlled substances.

    Birkhead told a Superior Court judge he saw bottles of Valium and other narcotics after moving in with Smith in 2004.

    Birkhead testified that defendant Dr. Sandeep Kapoor was Smith’s regular physician at the time and identified Kapoor seated across the courtroom.

    The testimony was the first to name Kapoor as one of Smith’s key doctors.

    Prosecutor Rene Rose sought to show a video of Kapoor socializing with the former Playboy model at a gay pride parade and party. The video shows the doctor nuzzling and kissing Smith, Rose said.

    However, Kapoor’s attorney Ellyn Garafalo objected that the video was irrelevant to the case.

    Garafalo previously told The Associated Press Kapoor is openly gay and never had a sexual or social relationship with Smith.

    Superior Court Judge Robert J. Perry said he would review the video before deciding whether to allow it as evidence.

    Kapoor, Dr. Khristine Eroshevich and Smith’s lawyer-boyfriend Howard K. Stern have all pleaded not guilty. They are not charged with Smith’s death in a Florida hotel in 2007, which was ruled an accidental overdose.
    Birkhead fought Stern for custody of Smith’s daughter, Dannielynn. Stern lost that battle when Birkhead proved by DNA evidence that the little girl was his.

    In his testimony, Birkhead described a whirlwind romance that began when he met Smith at a charity event before the Kentucky Derby in 2003. Birkhead said he became Smith’s personal photographer and moved into her home, sharing it with Stern.

    Birkhead said he lived there until the fifth or sixth month of Smith’s pregnancy.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_13575643?nclick_check=1

  18. Sammy1 says:

    http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/79801/

    Watch interview with LB and Kevin Frazier.
    Watch tonight for more with Kevin and LB.

  19. Rose says:

    Here is another blogger’s take on this so far today:

    “At one point, the bodyguard said about Stern, that Smith, “felt that he [Stern] had killed him [Daniel]…she tried to put blame on people,” Brighthaupt said. “‘You killed him, it’s your fault,” Brighthaupt recalled Smith saying to Stern in her despair. At this, Stern, clearly agitated, looked back at his former private investigator, John Nazarian, who sat amid the media rows, and mouthed, “That’s such a lie.”

    Birkhead took the stand at about 10 a.m. wearing a pinstriped dark suit, blueish tie and makeup. When we took the morning break, the prosecutor, Renee Rose, was trying to convince the judge to allow video of Smith and her internist, Sandeep Kapoor at a Gay Pride event…..”

  20. Rose says:

    Wonder what part of “accidental” and therapeutic or below therapeutic did this assistant D. A. NOT read?

  21. Beth says:

    “Brighthaupt recalled Smith saying to Stern in her despair”

    MOE WAS NOT IN THAT HOSPITAL ROOM!!!!
    Those garbage lies came from Ford, who might actually be the one who gave the extra pills to DWS for all we know.
    Otherwise WHY was FS so defensive? This was before the ‘problem’ with Horizons came to be…

    NO HOPSITAL people verified that Anna stated this… LOL Just FS who HAS NOW CHANGED HIS STORY.
    If Anna did feel that way, then WHY in the HELL did she go on national TV and say VA’s words of Daniel’s death being her or Howard’s fault were lies?
    WHERE THE HECK is the DEFENSE to ask that NUTJOB BODYGUARD THESE QUESTIONS?

    MOE’S HEARSAY IS NOT CREDIBLE OR LEGAL TO COME INTO ANY ACTUAL TRIAL! >> That is a FACT I know of for sure.

  22. Rose says:

    Beth my feeling is that Sadow and the other defense lawyers “sized up” Mo the last 3 days and did not show everything they have to dispute Mo’s testimony… none of these defense lawyers are fools and with the D. A. holding out on them why should they play their cards at this stage of this “case”???

  23. raven says:

    Beth (4) Swims remark “JB/TX Cabal song and dance with a Cosby Twist” translates to “Limbo Rock” Remember that jivy tune?

  24. raven says:

    I intended to say that I am interested in why Judge Perry buzzed right by the mention of the photo’s of Anna and Dr. E as though they were not important, but finds that he wants to see the video of Anna and Dr. Kapoor. Why is that?

  25. BEVERLY says:

    BETH—-I think she was not only “star struct” but enjoyed party down time.It appears she loved the high life living.and forgot what she needed to do.This is my feeling.no one may agree with me,but,I feel she was upset over Anna moving to the Bahamas.To me,there was nothing that pressing,that could not be cancelled and she should have stayed with Anna,unless she gave Anna the means ,and than did not want to stay around for the results,without knowledge to Howard.As far as Dr Kapoor,I am sure he was not aware of DR E tricks.Howard and Anna were two trusting people,and they were being used big time.That one MED is bugging me.I keep waiting for them to say Virgie Arthur will be comming to testify.The state needs a crying Mother and grandmother,I AM WAITING FOR THE BIG FINISH,

  26. Sammy1 says:

    Larry Birkhead Testifies About Anna Nicole
    Posted Oct 16th 2009 12:50PM by TMZ Staff

    Larry Birkhead is on the stand in the preliminary hearing involving Anna Nicole Smith and the defendants who allegedly fueled her drug habit.

    Birkhead just testified between August 2004 and May 2006, he saw Anna take the following drugs regularly: Topamax, Lasix, Klonopin, Valium, Xanax, Potassium and Methadone.

    He has not talked about whether Howard K. Stern or the two other defendants — Sandeep Kapoor and Kristine Eroshevich — helped facilitate Anna’s drug use, but he did identify Dr. Kapoor as Smith’s regular physician at the time.

    UPDATE 3:20 PM ET — Birkhead testified he saw Anna’s prescription bottles with several different names on them: Anna Nicole Smith, Michelle Chase, Vicki Marshall and Jane Brown. Larry also said the whole time he knew Anna he was concerned that she would take her meds inappropriately.

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/16/larry-birkhead-anna-nicole-smith-howard-k-stern-drugs-sandeep-kapoor-khristine-eroshevich/#ixzz0U8P4oZBB

  27. flowerz says:

    Raven, that was the question I was going to ask…that makes no sense at all, to me. It was not important or worthy to see the photos of the ladies(which I do agree, no importance at all, just gossip), but thinks he needs to check out Kapoor and Anna. Whatever was on the video was for ’show’ since he is admittedly gay! Sounds strange to me.

  28. Rose says:

    October 16, 2009 Art Harris Motion to Strike certain exhibits and addendum filed with Virgie Arthur’s Response to Art Harris Motion for Writ of Mandamus.

    http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2597

    October 16, 2009 Art Harris’ Reply filed in regards to Real Party of Interest, Virgie Arthur’s, Response to Art Harris Motion for Writ of Mandamus.

    http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2598

  29. Rose says:

    Meanwhile, prosecutors tried to pull out what they claim is a smoking gun…

    They have petitioned the judge to allow them to show in court a video capturing of Kapoor kissing Smith at a nightclub and talking about her prescriptions.

    A ruling on that matter could come later today. If the request is granted, such footage suggesting she and Kapoor had an inappropriate sexual liaison could do significant damage to the defense, as it could lend strong credence to the view that Kapoor (who says he is an out homosexual) abused his position and helped fuel Smith’s addiction.

    This is why the judge might allow the Kapoor tape in IF he was in fact heard on camera talking to ANS getting “prescriptions” from him while at a night club… not a good image for the doctor

    http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b149333_larry_birkhead_anna_nicole_popped_pills.html

  30. JMA says:

    Well just as we expected, Moe did receive money but the question is, is he telling the truth about the exact amount and who all he received it from! IMO, no he is not.

  31. JMA says:

    raven [24] since you mentioned Judge Perry wanting to view the video of Anna and Kapoor I was wondering if other video’s were going to be viewed by him, say like the video ET showed last night. Remember the video where Anna is saying she is her own person and makes her own decision among other things. I just wonder if Judge Perry will have interest in that one as well.

  32. JMA says:

    OK you all I know this is way off topic here but I wanted to give you all a little breather from all things Anna and share this with you. Hope it isn’t too long but I wrote this to poke funny at hubby due to last night’s events. Oh and he did not think I would write this so to me it was as though he was daring me too and well this girl does not back down from a dare :lol:

    In Memory of Our Dearly Departed Inflatable Halloween Decoration Friend…Tigger the Vampire

    Today I am sad to report tragedy struck in the JMA household last evening, yes this unforeseen tragedy was discovered around 7:45pm last night when hubby went to put the recycling [yes we are recyclers ;-) ] out by the road. While setting the recycled cans and bottles to the road hubby noticed one of his oldest most prized inflatable Halloween decorations 6 foot tall Tigger the Vampire laying face down on the ground. Now Tigger the Vampire had done this often especially during those windy days. Well like many times before hubby walked over to give Tigger the Vampire assistance but to his horror, Tigger the Vampire could not stand, no not this time even with help. While attempting to assist Tigger the Vampire hubby noticed something very devastating, poor Tigger the Vampire had blown his top [hole in his head] yes folks he literally blew his top. Well hubby was horrified, he franticly picks up Tigger the Vampire and rushes him into the house [yeah got water all over the floor, it rained all day], to which he attempted to revive Tigger the Vampire by using gorilla glue and tape. Once hubby thought Tigger the Vampire was well-rested [glue dried] after his ordeal [blowing his top] he returned him to his spot in the yard.

    A half hour had passed since Tigger the Vampire had been mended so I decided to check on his progress myself only to find him once again laying face down on the cold wet ground with a new blown-out spot at the top of his head. I returned into the house to break the bad news to hubby and after a little comforting, I got him to come to terms that his most prized inflatable Tigger the Vampire was defiantly a goner this time, nope no amount of gorilla glue or tape is going to save him.

    Tigger the Vampire’s Memorial Service will be held today before sundown and all who knew of him are welcomed to attend. Tigger the Vampire will be laid to rest in the original box he came in along with his cape and faithful friend Mr. Spider who had dangled from Tigger the Vampire’s paw only to endured the many cold windy rainy days and nights right along with his friend. The spot in the yard that has been occupied by Tigger the Vampire for the past 11 years will now be taken over by an 8 foot tall Grim Reaper, ironic is it not. Tigger the Vampire’s resting place will most likely be in the shed, yes folks hubby has trouble parting with his Holiday decorations, you see he is my Clark Griswold of both Christmas and Halloween decorating.

    Now may I ask for a moment of silence in remembrance of hubby’s beloved Tigger the Vampire? We will always have our memories [pictures] of Tigger the Vampire blowing in the wind as if he were waving to all that rode/walked by. We will also remember Tiger the Vampire for the smiles he brought upon the faces of the neighborhood children the very first Halloween he was put out on display.

    RIP Tigger the Vampire our inflatable Halloween decoration Friend, you will be missed but never forgotten.

  33. Ken says:

    JMA [31] That was funny. I can relate to your husband. :lol:

  34. heath says:

    JMA nice story and fixed it up, probably same time as Ken was and you were…cheers

    RIP Tigger

  35. DiamondGirl says:

    I will say a prayer for the dearly departed Tigger teh Vampire. May he find eternal rest in his box along with Mr. Spider.

  36. Ken says:

    heath [34] I wonder why I was seeing double. lol

  37. JMA says:

    Ken & Heath I had to write it due to the way he was acting after he found him :lol: and when I read it to him the only thing he could come back with was “you ain’t right” but I swore I saw a small smile on his face.

  38. heath says:

    Ken so was I…thinking I just fixed that what did I do wrong…..I think it was Tigger!!come back to haunt JMA for wanting to recycle him

  39. heath says:

    JMA I have a box of Christmas decos I can’t part with and a whole herd of angels from on top of the tree”s gone past…

    How can a angel that does nothing but try to look glamorous on top of a tree get so messy??? I have always wondered about that…

  40. JMA says:

    heath [39] I swear if the lights go out on his Christmas deer’s he will rewire them. Matter of fact he has a scary Halloween tree that the motor and lights went up on, no lie he had me contact the company who made the thing and order him a new motor and then he rewired it. The man is insane when it comes to decorating for both Halloween & Christmas but you know what the neighbors and the children look forward to it every year. Hell he made me promise him [God forbid] should anything happen to him that I will continue his tradition, umm I love the man but I don’t know about all that it’s a lot of work.

  41. Ken says:

    heath [39] It’s the first thing the dust settles on as it’s falling from the ceiling??

  42. heath says:

    No Ken I think they go and party…..their hair gets messy, their wings get bent, dress messed up…….no way are they staying still to let any dust settle LOL

  43. heath says:

    also just read this from the google alert thingy

    Father of Anna Nicole Smith’s daughter testifies he regularly saw Smith take drugs

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — The father of Anna Nicole Smith’s daughter testified Friday the ex-Playmate “took more medications than I’ve ever seen anyone take,” and that he complained about it to a doctor now charged with conspiring to provide Smith with controlled substances.

    “I was concerned that Anna was taking too many medications,” said photographer Larry Birkhead, who moved in with Smith in 2004 after a romance that began at a Kentucky Derby party.

    Birkhead said he raised the drug issue during a visit to Dr. Sandeep Kapoor in mid-2005 about a minor ailment. Kapoor was Smith’s physician at the time.

    “At the end of the visit, I said to him she might be taking medicine from someone else in addition to him,” Birkhead testified.

    “What did Dr. Kapoor say?” prosecutor Renee Rose asked.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hitISYixOv_DC0ABZeYzc6dg2BDAD9BCF2R80

  44. JMA says:

    heath [43] sounds like you’ve got some partying Christmas angels there :lol:

  45. JMA says:

    Hey, what’s all the fuss about concerning Larry’s appearances in court today? Seems like some are having an issue as to how he looked or dressed. Is there a video or pictures showing his arrival to court?

  46. Beth says:

    raven, yes! The Limbo Rock song! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgCHOrF5ryY ;)

    JMA – Sorry about Tigger dear.

    Hey, What if…. the Judge is NOT letting the video of Dr. E & ANS in due to >>> a break in the chain of evidence rules!
    That particular video was taken off a PERSONAL hard drive of Anna’s without permission!
    The hard drives that FS STOLE from Horizons and the same hard drives that FS and his attorney Susan Brown GAVE TO the TX team to make copies, or copied themselves and handed the copies to the TX team. NO CLEAR right to be used in ANY Court.
    * Either way a distribution of stolen goods.
    ** How come CUSTOMS; the Federal Agency is not looking into FS ILLEGALLY TRANSPORTING STOLEN PROPERTY FROM THE BAHAMAS TO THE US???

    >>> Does anyone here know where this exact tape of Kapoor & Anna came from?
    I mean is it the one that like an Entertainment program like Access, Inside Edition or any of them had on file years ago?
    Where they had the rights to the tape and the DA subpoenaed it legally…

    Sure would like an answer to that one!

    Wonder if someone writes the DA’s office and asks them if they obtained that particular one legally… if they would answer back? ;) :) :D :lol:

  47. JMA says:

    Beth [46] thank you :-)

    Oh and I will be sure to pass along everyone’s condolences to hubby, you know cause he is in mourning.

  48. Beth says:

    http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/16/larry-birkhead-anna-nicole-smith-howard-k-stern-drugs-sandeep-kapoor-khristine-eroshevich/

    “Larry Birkhead is on the stand in the preliminary hearing involving Anna Nicole Smith and the defendants who allegedly fueled her drug habit.

    Birkhead just testified between August 2004 and May 2006, he saw Anna take the following drugs regularly: Topamax, Lasix, Klonopin, Valium, Xanax, Potassium and Methadone.

    He has not talked about whether Howard K. Stern or the two other defendants — Sandeep Kapoor and Kristine Eroshevich — helped facilitate Anna’s drug use, but he did identify Dr. Kapoor as Smith’s regular physician at the time.

    UPDATE 3:20 PM ET — Birkhead testified he saw Anna’s prescription bottles with several different names on them: Anna Nicole Smith, Michelle Chase, Vicki Marshall and Jane Brown. Larry also said the whole time he knew Anna he was concerned that she would take her meds inappropriately.

    UPDATE 5:50 PM ET — Birkhead testified he never saw anyone force Anna to take medication. He said he saw Anna with a duffel bag full of meds. Birkhead said he saw Stern give the bag to Anna Nicole, but didn’t see him administer any drugs.”

  49. Beth says:

    o/t

    OMG! How very funny!
    “Jon Gosselin Googles Lawsuits … Not Babies”
    Posted Oct 16th 2009 4:01PM by TMZ Staff

    “Jon Gosselin didn’t find out TLC was suing him from their lawyers … or his own. His mode of notification: Google Alerts.

    So that means Jon must get every story written about him sent to his Blackberry. Including this one. Hi Jon.”

  50. Beth says:

    **REPEAT**

    ‘Does anyone here know where this exact tape of Kapoor & Anna came from?
    I mean is it one from an entertainment program like Access, Inside Edition or any television show that they had on file for years now?

    * Where they had/owned the rights to the tape and the DA subpoenaed it legally with a Judge’s signature on the warrant…’

    Sure would like an answer to that one!

  51. JMA says:

    Disregard my post #45 I now know where the fuss concerning Larry’s appearances [look] in court today came from, dang I need to read before I post.

  52. hmm says:

    JMA same goes for me RIP Tigger.We had several moving deers for Xmas and after I got a thousand dollar bill the end of Jan we never used them again.It took my entire tax refund to pay the bill.That was in 2007 and the only difference was those deer with movable heads.
    Sorry to say but so far I don;t think California has anyone running for governor who is woth a damm at least from what I have read about them.Maybe some one else will step up.
    I just came back from watching the fire works from our homecoming boy were they pretty.This is the first year they have had them for the homecoming.We live in a small town but have a high school for all the surrounding districts here. Should mention I onlt had to go watch from my kitchen window as the schools are that close

  53. raven says:

    flowerz (27) Jma (31) I was thinking, just maybe, Judge Perry is honing in on Dr. Kapoor more than Dr. E is because he seemed to have over prescribed to more patients than Dr E. Wasn’t Anna the only patient of Dr. E’s that she over prescribed to? Who knows?

    Jma (32) What a good Halloween tribute to Tigger the vampire! Tell your hubby to use duct tape and make it look like a surgical bandage. lol

  54. Beth says:

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/birkhead-denies-ever-giving-anna-nicole-ecstasy#

    Birkhead Denies Ever Giving Anna Nicole EcstasyBirkhead Denies Ever Giving Anna Nicole Ecstasy Posted on Oct 16, 2009 @ 03:07PM

    “Larry Birkhead was cross examined by Howard K Stern’s legal ace attorney Steve Sadow, Friday, about the bodyguard, Maurice Brighthaupt’s allegation that Birkhead gave Anna Nicole ectasay before the AMA’s.
    Anna Nicole Smith Took Ecstasy Night Of AMAs
    “No, I never gave her that or any controlled substance,” Birkhead insisted. He also said he had a conversation with Brighthaupt close to the two year anniversary of Anna’s death in which Larry demanded Brighthaupt return a videocamera that he had that belonged to Anna. “He [Brighthaupt] told me he was going to go after me, and Howard K Stern. He said I’m going to get Howard,” Birkhead said.
    Howard K Stern And Doctors Plead Not Guilty
    Sadow asked Birkhead why Anna took Klonopin and Topamax, and he said, “Because of seizures Anna suffered from.”
    Judge Robert Perry was very interested in Anna’s seizures and asked Birkhead to further elaborate about her seizures. Birkhead said the seizures were usually induced by stress, and the first time she suffered from one in front of him, “I was very scared and I didn’t know what to do.” The seizures started in 2000-01 because of the stress related to on going court battles in Texas over her late husband’s estate.
    PHOTOS: Anna Nicole’s Doctor Snorting White Powder
    Birkhead also recalled Anna suffering from a very bad seizure the night before the American Music Awards, in which she was slated to introduce Kanye West. Both Stern and Birkhead didn’t want her to attend but she was insistent about following through. “The only thing she took that day of the awards were Klonopin, Topamax and Red Bull,” Birkhead said.
    Anna Nicole Smith’s Shocking Drug Prescription, Allegations Doctors Had Sex With Her
    Anna Nicole’s introduction to Kanye at the AMA’s was played in court. Judge Perry asked Birkhead if the portrayal of her as a drugged out person was accurate, and he said, “No, not entirely.”
    Anna Nicole also liked to drink milk, and chocolate milk out of “baby bottles. She liked to act like a baby,” Birkhead said.
    Larry is due back on the stand Monday morning”

  55. Sammy1 says:

    Beth, I remember seeing the picture of Anna and Kapoor but am thinking there is video of the event maybe in the 2nd season of the ANS Show.We all remember the pictures from the gay parade with Anna riding in a car with Kapoor.

    JMA – Sorry to learn of Tigger the Vampire demise. May Tigger rest in peace.

    Have been gone for several hours and now trying to catch up. Max and I are both tired. Max spent time in the car alone (with vented windows in 39 degree weather) and found all sorts of things to play with. The umbrella was opened in the front seat, a receipt was eaten and pants for return were strewn across 2 seats. Most times he’s fine but this time he must of been lonely. It will a beautiful day when Max fines his quiet self. Way too much energy. LOL

  56. JMA says:

    hmm [52] WOW we have never had a bill that high and he puts out a lot of animated characters out at Christmas. Cool that you could stand in your kitchen and watch fireworks.

    Raven [53] I’m wondering if maybe it’s due to Kapoor’s somewhat involvement with the MJ case, just a thought.

    OMG, I did suggest duct tape but I was also poking fun at him at the time so I don’t think he took me seriously :-( Hey, you know they say duct tape is the fix all kind of tape :lol:

    Thanks Sammy [55] I will pass your condolences along, and trust me I have been sharing each and everyone with him and he just shakes his head at me to which I respond with WHAT :lol:

    What kind of puppers is Max; you may have already said and I may have missed. He sounds rambunctious but then all puppies are.

  57. Roxanne says:

    54
    I believe what it says about the meds she took that day. Ecstasy, or X for short, is a upper. It was obvious whatever Anna had taken that day had a “knock out” effect on her as would a downer. X makes a person really really hyper active.

  58. Sammy1 says:

    JMA #56 – Max is a 9-month black and white Shih Tzu, very energtic and absolutley the cutest puppy I’ve seen. Maybe I’m partial but he is cute. He loves car rides, door bell ringing, shoe laces, house slippers, treats and freely shown affection. He’s adapted to the invisible fence so he can now go outside on his own which I appreciate with the coming cold weather over the next several months. Oh yeah, he has enjoyed himself chewing up my throw rugs. Yes, he has plenty of toys and chew toys but like any other child enjoys getting into trouble. Always testing my patience. This too will pass and he will learn to calm down.

  59. Sammy1 says:

    http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/hHdtMmCBLIn/Anna+Nicole+Smith+After+Party/6-LbutGObtj/Larry+Birkhead

    Photos of Anna, Larry and Dr Kapoor at party after the gay pride parade. Anna is wearing the same dress as seen in previously published photo of Anna sitting in car during the parade. Larry is wearing the same yellow shirt.

  60. Sammy1 says:

    Interesting article – totally different than the others.

    Bodyguard: Stern Controlled Anna Nicole
    “Mo Mo” Brighthaupt’s finishes his testimony, Larry Birkhead takes the stand.

    By Steven Mikulan
    Published: October 16, 2009
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    Proximity is turning out to be everything in the Anna Nicole Smith hearings: where Smith’s TV remote was when she reached for it and fell out of bed, dislocating her shoulder; how close her Coach bag of meds was to the reality TV star’s bed during a detox stay at Cedars-Sinai; the next-door location of Studio City homes belonging to Smith and her psychiatrist, shown in a photograph that remained projected on a courtroom screen for much of Friday.

    Today finally saw the end of bodyguard Maurice “Mo Mo” Brighthaupt’s testimony for the prosecution. A massive figure somberly dressed in a blue shirt and cobalt slacks, Brighthaupt (pictured at left, at Smith’s wedding to Howard K. Stern) regaled listeners in his deep, narcotizing voice.

    He told how he prevented a distraught Smith from jumping onto the casket of her son, Daniel, as it was lowered into the earth one month after the 20-year-old had died of a methadone overdose; and how Smith’s lawyer-lover, Stern, would take pictures of Smith when she was blotto.

    Brighthaupt, whose IMDb rating has shot up 77 percent this week, claimed Stern was a controlling influence in her life. (For the rest of Brighthaupt’s testimony, see “Anna Nicole Smith Hearing: a Woman in Pain.”)

    “She relied on him for everything — picking up food, picking up drugs,” the bodyguard recalled, as Stern smiled malevolently from the defense side of the court.

    The hearing before Superior Court Judge Robert Perry could become a reliable curtain-raiser to a trial, if Perry decides that what he hears is enough to put Stern and doctors Khristine Eroshevich and Sandeep Kapoor in the dock on charges they conspired to illegally supply Smith with a breathtaking spectrum of sedatives and pain killers.

    Again and again, however, an agitated Deputy District Attorney Renee Rose found herself talking to Perry’s hand as the judge cut off her attempts to introduce results of the tox screen that coroner’s officials produced following Smith’s February, 2007 death.

    “Time out! Time out!” Perry ordered. “Miss Rose, calm down!”

    Brighthaupt’s appearance had produced some sparks during cross-examination by Stern attorney Steven Sadow.

    The testimony of Stern’s onetime romantic rival for Smith, Larry Birkhead, had been highly anticipated, but the photographer-paramour’s appearance proved as soporific as the chloro hydrate Smith favored.

    Defense lawyers Sadow and Ellyn Garofalo spent hours attempting to establish that not only did Smith have legitimate medical needs for the pharmacopia of downers prescribed by Eroshevich and Kapoor, but that she possessed a “natural” slur in her speech that only made her seem high to outside observers.

    Birkhead’s testimony continues Monday.

    http://www.thewrap.com/article/battle-anna-nicole-smiths-image-8781

  61. Liann mi says:

    If this case even goes to trial it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, Fruit of the poisonous tree ( that JB said he was going to look into :LOL:), witnesses that their credibility is questionable, hearsay is not allowed at trial must be first -hand witness to cross, I hope this goes to trial, but for Anna’s sake and Howard’s and DL’s in the future I hope it is dismissed. What a sorted cast the prosecution has and the first days of RR shows that this Judge wants the facts and not the glory, if this Judge passes this case to trial it sounds that he is glad that he is not going to have to hear the trial. imo

  62. Liann says:

    Remember, Beyond a reasonable doubt not preponderance of the evidence or hearsay as in civil

  63. BEVERLY says:

    Good Morning Everyone,So far of all I have read,I see no conspiracy,no drugging Anna for nafarious reasons,no procuring drugs for any other reason but to help Anna’s mental and physcial condition.I have not heard enough about Dr Kapoor to make any judgement,but Dr E did not care for her friend and pt,in a manner which I would approve,In fact,I am truly sad Howard trusted her,I think this lady needs help.God,it bothers me when any child is so hurt,it sucks the life blood out of the child to adult hood.With all Anna’s problems,she had no buisness drinking,She was by herself on a SELF-DESTRUCT path,I have been hoping Howard;s Attorney,would bring in the years Anna took drugs before Howard knew her,IT IS IMPORTANT.Proper Help in Anna early years,could have prevented,ALL THIS,Anna should have been taken care of by a neurologist,none was named.This is what is needed in this case medical prove.I do not know why Moe actions the day Anna died was not brought up,no one would believe a word of what he said after that.

  64. susieq2 says:

    Remember the profesional media is legally allowed a lot of latitude how these articles are written/presented!
    Look for a quote…IF you can find one… MF-I am so frustrated I lost my speaking/writing skills! The b*****ds!
    (more about all that later…maybe)

    Anna Nicole Smith Hearing: a Woman in Pain -
    By Steven Mikulan -Published: October 15, 2009
    http://www.thewrap.com/article/anna-nicole-smith-hearing-woman-pain-8741?page=1
    http://www.thewrap.com/article/anna-nicole-smith-hearing-woman-pain-8741?page=2

    ……
    Larry Birkhead says he was told that Anna Nicole Smith’s drug use was ‘under control’-
    Harriet Ryan
    Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Robert J. Perry asked Birkhead if he had ever seen anyone force Smith to take drugs. “No,” he replied.

    “She was a pill popper, just popping pills all the time?” the judge asked.

    Birkhead said he objected to the term “pill popper,” but allowed, “She took more medication than I’d ever seen anyone take.”
    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-anna-nicole17-2009oct17,0,6953758.story

    …..
    Larry Birkhead: Anna Nicole Suffered Seizures, Popped Pills on Daily Basis
    Fri., Oct. 16, 2009 6:10 PM PDT by JOSH GROSSBERG AND LINDSAY MILLER
    http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b149333_larry_birkhead_anna_nicole_suffered.html

    Today’s star attraction in the Anna Nicole Smith drug-plying case/circus: none other than her baby daddy Larry Birkhead.
    Unlike the graphic testimony given earlier this week, Birkhead kept the revelations to the minimum, dropping the nonbombshell that Smith popped narcotics like candy when the two lived together from 2004 to 2006. He said she would ingest medications like methadone, Klonopin, Topamax and Xanax on a daily basis, and continued to take methadone, Valium and other substances when she was pregnant with their daughter, Dannielynn.

  65. Beth says:

    [55] Sammy, thank you. I hadn’t even thought that the tape possibly coming from the Reality show. You know I never had watched too much of that.
    Just not a reality TV watcher person (on people’s everyday lives) Just like shows like American Idol, but not so much of like; Dancing w/ the Stars…
    “It will a beautiful day when Max fines his quiet self.” >> Priceless! :D
    ~~~
    JMA, your story of Tigger so very cute… I had my younger daughter read it, she laughed. Then asked what “JMA” stood for and I told her; ‘Justice My Ass’ then she really giggled!
    ~~~
    [57] Hi Miss Roxanne! You have been a bit quiet as of late. Hope all is well with you. I do not believe ANS would take Ecstasy when she KNEW she would be on national TV! Her appearance (or perception to the world) was too important to her to actually (purposely) try to make herself look like a druggy. Imo
    ~~~
    [58] Sammy is correct! Max is a beautiful pup! The invisible fence thing was very interesting to find out about! You guys need to join us in CHAT on Sunday evenings!
    ~~~
    [61] Liann, EXACTLY!!! The ‘Fruit of the Poisonous Tree’ & ‘Beyond a Reasonable Doubt’ HAVE to be adhered to by this Judge (any Judge). I actually wish he would Judge over this case at trial, or hopefully any Judge that follows the letter of the law like this one. Certainly there should not be a biased Judge like TL or a Judge like Seidlin (he ended up following the law, but in a round about way that caused all kinds of inadmissible crap to be said to the world about Anna’s personal life…)
    ~~~
    Morning Beverly!
    Yes, the actions of Moe STEALING Anna’s camera and not giving it back to the Estate for DL. Leaking (selling) the pics from it for money, saying favorable things for money, trying to write a book, (no one wanted to publish it), THEN saying UNFAVORABLE things about Anna and her inner circle for more MONEY…. Yep! Renee sure has a real witness there with > ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY!
    IMO Moe has NO trustworthiness are integrity either! Toss anything he says OUT the window!
    *Self-serving LIES, that is all he has to offer! (where the hell did Anna find these people?)
    ~~~
    ** Where is Kimmie? How come she is not testifying? Does anyone remember how long she was Anna’s assistant?

    ** Get a video tape of those nannies with their lawyer E. Thompson and ask question via satellite for the Judge! Let Thompson tell them about DC and how TX LIES >> “..Blows her mind!”
    ~~~
    Susieq, thank you for the links… I am in total agreement with you on the ‘colorful’ nonsense these reporters are interjecting! Well said! > “The b*****ds!”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *** HEY! I have … what is that called again? Oh, “ A Brilliant Plan”! ;)
    How about LB, acting for DL (the minor child of ANS) SUE Moe for;
    >> GETTING THE PACKAGES OF MEDICATIONS MAILED TO HIS HOUSE IN FLORIDA AND BRINGING THEM TO HER! (out of the US)
    (the DA will not file complaint because he has either been ‘scared’ by certain facts of his actions -
    - which totally seems to have ‘HAD’ made his testimony more, MUCH MORE > ‘colorful’ than the actual facts… to me anyway!
    Anna should have choose a better caliber of a bodyguard! JMO

  66. DesertWalker says:

    Morning everyone. Thanks for sharing all the links, info and thoughts.

    Some are always stating that the Florida case has been reopened. When all the O’Q/Cosby/Estate/CA drug cases are completed, perhaps Florida will decide to look at Moe, Taz and a few others a bit closer.

    I don’t know of any reason that Moe couldn’t be added to the CA case. Perhaps Renee Rose will add him after the Prelim since things don’t seem to be panning out smoothly. It would seem Moe could be charged with overt acts (procuring, transporting, delivering) and he’s already admitted to that under oath and others might find themselves having to deal with providing “fruit of the poison tree” information and other comments to intentionally mislead an investigation. Could get interesting.

    Good point about concentrating on the quotes instead of the puff in the articles. Reminds you of playing telephone when we were kids. Quite a change when it got around the circle.

    Hope everyone has a great weekend.

  67. Beth says:

    * I AM NOT SURE IF THIS LINK HAS BEEN POSTED HERE OR NOT…. [1st I remember hearing that Judge Perry did NOT allow the Kapoor video in..]

    http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/news_details/article/1373/2009/october/16/birkhead-says-he-saw-anna-nicole-smith-take-drugs.html

    “ “You never saw anyone force Anna to take medication?” asked the judge.
    “I never saw that,” Birkhead replied.
    Rose sought to show a video in court of Kapoor socializing with the ex-model at the gay pride parade and a party afterward. The video shows the doctor nuzzling and kissing Smith, Rose said.
    Kapoor’s attorney Ellyn Garofalo objected to showing the video, saying it was irrelevant to the case.
    After watching the video privately, Judge Perry agreed and it was not shown.
    Garofalo previously told The Associated Press that Kapoor is openly gay and never had a sexual or social relationship with Smith beyond that one day.”
    ^ ^ ^ ^
    From: (very bottom of the long article)
    Birkhead says he saw Anna Nicole Smith take drugs
    By: LINDA DEUTSCH –
    The Associated Press
    Friday October 16, 2009 02:31 PM
    Story Images: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8

  68. Beth says:

    DW, [66] Stated excellently! Thank you, a very good read!

    “It would seem Moe could be charged with overt acts (procuring, transporting, delivering) and he’s already admitted to that under oath and others might find themselves having to deal with providing “fruit of the poison tree” information and other comments to intentionally mislead an investigation. Could get interesting.”

  69. susieq2 says:

    Finally facts are coming out…. just got to wade for the feces. Thank you Larry!

    Anna Nicole Took Drugs While Pregnant— Posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago in Crime & Courts, Gossip
    Newser) – More sad details about Anna Nicole Smith’s drug use emerged during the Howard K. Stern hearing yesterday, as babydaddy Larry Birkhead testified that she took methadone while pregnant with daughter Dannielynn out of fear that she’d go into shock and lose the baby if she stopped.

    As to why she was taking methadone in the first place, Birkhead said she was trying to alleviate back pain caused by her large breast implants, the New York Daily News reports.
    He also said the ex-Playmate suffered from headaches, swollen hands, and seizures, and added to earlier testimony that she drank out of baby bottles, noting that she kept baby food by her bed to snack on. http://www.newser.com/story/71922/anna-nicole-took-drugs-while-pregnant.html

    Hi Beth Good morning everone.

  70. Beth says:

    Hey susieq!
    Thanks for posting those!
    Very interesting about the possibly going into shock part! > Understandable and seems credible to me.

    ~~~~~

    Yep….
    The ANS story (at least to TMZ posters…) is done and over with it looks like…

    >>> ‘42’ posts on the last piece on the prelim in CA (ANS / Drs. ……….)

    > ‘163’ posts for: t m z com/2009/10/16/jon-gosselin-googles-lawsuits-not-babies/

    > ‘150’ posts for: http:/ /www. tmz .com/2009/10/17/ex-wife-to-jermaine-yo-mama-pays-my-bills/
    “Jermaine Jackson’s baby mama claims the singer has left her so dirt poor … that she’s been forced
    to accept supermarket gift cards from Jermaine’s mom just so she can feed the kids.”

    ~~~~~
    Well, that is it for me for awhile today.
    Had coffee, searched some things on the net, had crispy thick French toast with syrup and powdered sugar on top along a few strips of bacon… more coffee — and now I am ready to start my Saturday! So much to do, not quite sure where to begin!! Just past 9:30 am here.
    Have a great day all!

  71. BEVERLY says:

    My humble opinion—–I do not believe there was a medical reason for the baby bottle or food.I do believe Anna was a “‘VERY TROUBLED WOMAN”.You would need a good phychiatrist for this one,but it all goes back to her childhood,Anna is looking for love.She was looking for someone to take care of her,I hope the court see’s,what I am seeing,.

  72. Beth says:

    * I am going to repost this little bit I wrote to Bev earlier in #65, I think it is important, so I will double space it…
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________

    ‘.. the actions of Moe STEALING Anna’s camera and not giving it back to the Estate for DL.

    ‘Leaking’ (selling) the pics from it [stolen property of Anna's } the camera] ‘for money’,

    saying; ‘favorable things for money’, trying to write a book, (no one wanted to publish it),

    THEN saying ‘UNFAVORABLE things about Anna and her inner circle for MORE MONE!

    Yep! Renee R. sure has a real witness there with > ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY!

    IMO Moe has NO trustworthiness are integrity either! TOSS anything he says OUT the window!

    *Self-serving LIES, that is all he has to offer!’

    ~~~~~
    LOL I enhanced a bit of above with caps and such…
    > It is a damn good thing I have NO ACCESS to bold, italics, ect…
    I have never known myself to be so ‘animated’ with any writings
    prior to this saga! The wanting of just plain fair justice has really
    grabbed at my inner soul! ;)

  73. Beth says:

    s/b > ” THEN saying ‘UNFAVORABLE things about Anna and her inner circle for MORE MONEY!’ ”

    Moe is/was a horrible witness! IMO!
    What did Swims say again awhile back?
    Something about the prosecution witnesses ending up being a ‘HELP’ to the Defense! :)

    bbl

  74. BEVERLY says:

    I am still waiting for the (Guest of Honor) to be in court as a surorise witness for the state.I cannot believe there would be a court case without Vergie showing up,for a camera shot.Ever since Anna and Daniel died,Vergie has made sure”everyone knows her name”This would be the climax to the states case Vergie crying,and saying how much she loved Anna,and that bad Howard kept her away,then Howard Attorney could ask,what she did to help her daughter.

  75. BEVERLY says:

    BETH–Thank you,your comments are right on,I also think,they are trying every trick in the book,to get Larry to say the wrong thing,that is why Vergie has not shown up yet,there still looking for a reason to take Dannielynn,that IS why MOE is saying he saw Larry giving Anna Ecstasy.I bet Moe was paaid good by the OQ,iF fLORIDA CASE IS REOPEN,they will have to find out WHY Tas sat on her buttwhile Anna died,

  76. susieq2 says:

    71, 72, 73-75-Bev & Beth, I understand where you are coming from… I agree in part, disagree in part and hope to get back with you today. But as slow as I am who knows when. Gotta watch Breeders Cup…I love horse races.

  77. hmm says:

    Only thing I have to say is while LB has no reason to lie Moe does

  78. hmm says:

    Bev you can bet your bootie they are still trying to GET LB so as to GET Dannielynn.Fat chance wit VA disability that McShame claims she has andhow she only seemed to care about herself and not her childrens welfare.JMO

  79. hmm says:

    Ot for a minuet JMA I should have said the electric bill was for both electric and heat as they are both on one bill where I live but it was still almost 500 for electric that month and I called and the could find nothing to explain the high jump from about 120 to that amount.They even came out and reread the meter. sure was a shocker to me also.I will say Our electric has gone from maybe 90 a month,electric only, to 160 a month. we do have an electric dryer and stove so that could account for some of it but our water heater is gas as are our furnaces. Just wanted to clarify .

  80. BEVERLY says:

    Hmm—–My question was answered this week with Moe’s testimony.I had wondered why Vergie,seem to be suing everyone,but the very one’s that could have saved her daughter’s life but did not,MY opinion–Vergie could care less about Anna’s life,she needed Moe to go against Howard,her only aim is get that child and her money.A good phychiatrist,even court appointed would look at the whole mess,and know what damage Vergie did to Anna,and now trying torment and harrass Larry to death,although,I think Larry has shed her and is going on with his life,I thought he was looking good and put on some weight.This is the last stop for Vergie to get Howard,and so far the state case STINKS,AS FAR AS hOWARD IS CONCERNED.

  81. Sammy1 says:

    Rose – thank you for the latest Harris’ dcouments. Some good reading. Once again McC can’t keep his facts straight. Nothing like referring to exhibits that hadn’t occurred to the time period in question. That’s really putting the cart before the horse. LOL.

  82. JMA says:

    Sammy1 [58] ah they are soooo cute, hope he gets out of that chew stage though. My best friend has a West Highland White Terrier who is about two years old and she chews everything. My BF was telling me the other day her puppers chewed up a pair of her new pajama bottoms.

  83. JMA says:

    Beth [65] thank you it took me all day yesterday to write, a lot of editing before I thought it was perfect well except my grammar sucks. My 7 yr old GD thought it was funny too but she thought it was funnier how I referred to her Poppy [ Mr. Justice My Ass] as hubby.

  84. JMA says:

    hmm [79] that’s still very high for both individually, imo. I would have been calling the company and have them re-read the meter.

  85. flowerz says:

    I don’t know if this has been posted before, but is interesting.

    http://foia.fbi.gov/hottopics.htm

  86. heath says:

    #85 Flowerz thanks for the link.. but was anybody able to get the docs or was it me???

  87. Beth says:

    TOO MANY TO COPY… (1) post on pg. 156 & (7) posts on pg. 157
    IF YOU GO TO THESE #’S AND COPY THEM TO A WORDPAD, IT IS MUCH EASIER TO READ…

    *** EXCELLENT OBSERVATIONS! NEW FOUND REVELATIONS FOR ME ***

    (very, very interesting following thoughts of what we have talked about for months…
    the broken chain of evidence on the stolen materials)

    http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/20/larry-b-and-dannielynn-swingers/156#comments
    #2340 > H. Supporter
    http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/20/larry-b-and-dannielynn-swingers/157#comments
    #2341 > H. Supporter
    #2342 > H. Supporter
    #2345 > Swim’s answer
    #2346 > Swim’s answer
    #2347 > H. Supporter’s answer
    #2348 > H. Supporter
    #2349 > Swim’s answer

  88. Liann says:

    ~~Repost~~ Thank You Howard Supporter and Swims!

    2349. I figured the computers and hard drive are still in the possession of DOJ, but it took me so long to figure it all out, I had lost track after Dr. Perper and Sanchez went through them. I never realized Santiago transferred them to CA on April 12, 2007.

    I didn’t realize that he was appointed to the case to investigate Dr. E on March 30th, four days after the Seminole Police and Dr. Perper had announced the conclusions and it was over.

    BTW I went back just now and found Exhibit B from HKS filings in the Susan Brown matter in Georgia–this is the Cosby subpoena to FS dated Aug. 4, 2008 which reads (as you stated) ‘All doc uments, including but not limited to hard drives, videotapes, photos and contracts removed from the Nassau, Bahamas home referred to as Horizons in Feb. 2007.”

    As far as following the law, all these Texas inspired cases always seem to glide right past the normal rules of due process. One would think that a criminal case would have followed every letter of the law and crossed all their t’s, dotted all their i’s.

    Posted at 10:33PM on Oct 17th 2009 by Howard Supporter
    *****
    Yes, indeed, and the TX cabal has arranged fall-guys all along the way intended to absorb most if not all of the blame should the truth come to light.

    As you have said many times, the SC case has (and will be) proven pivotal. We see in the Cosby depos/docs that the bad guys are still obfuscating their extent and timing of interaction to defame HKS and others, but the SC case has already provided solid information sufficient for a prima facie showing of the crime-fraud exception to Attorney-Client privilege. Just another few days wait to see who is added to the SC case to replace the John/Jane Doe placeholders.

    Posted at 11:37PM on Oct 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/20/larry-b-and-dannielynn-swingers/157#comments#ixzz0UGCYl4KB

  89. Liann says:

    2346. 2342. I have never truly figured out the sequence of events here–until now.

    And this:

    Detective Kathy Frank of Seminole Police told Santiago that the computer was also used for emails, storage of photos, and instant messaging.

    Posted at 6:22PM on Oct 17th 2009 by Howard Supporter
    *****
    Hence also the employment by HKS of the (white collar) criminal attorney Lilly Ann Sanchez in FL during this time.

    If FS hadn’t stolen the materials from ‘Horizons’, LE would have had to gain access to them through due process and in the light of day; not this highly questionable ‘agency-to-agency’ transfer path where the basic integrity of the materials is not known or protected.

    Cosby/McNamara even tried to subpoena FS for the HD’s, naming images and videos specifically, in an effort to cover the fact that they had the materials already.

    Posted at 9:46PM on Oct 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/20/larry-b-and-dannielynn-swingers/157#comments#ixzz0UGDfae8Q

  90. Liann says:

    2345. 2340. SWIM:

    Did HKS ever receive the two stolen laptops and hard drive from CA DOJ? According to the search warrants for same and the agency-to-agency transfer from Seminole Police to Los Angeles then impounded by DOJ these are being held (or were) as evidence in the commission of two felonies by Dr. E…the laptops and hard drives ‘used regularly by HKS and ANS’ according to THE NANNIES who first clued Santiago in about the laptops.

    Posted at 6:10PM on Oct 17th 2009 by Howard Supporter
    *****
    HKS had access to the actual HD’s long enough to determine that they had been copied immediately after their theft from ‘Horizons’. HKS/Wood have been chasing the ‘copies’ ever since. This was back when we saw Dr. Perper announce he would delay issuing his autopsy results for two weeks as the Seminoles and his people examined ‘potential new evidence’ (words to that effect).

    Santiago paints an interesting picture about how he came into possession of stolen materials in an effort to make it look like they weren’t ’stolen’ (by him at least) in the first place – but they were and still are. Hence Wood’s admonition way back to JB that the HD’s were stolen materials.

    As yet unknown numbers of copies of the copies have been circulated to various people. SB’s role in the distribution to the TX cabal and Geraldo has already been laid out in the SC case.

    Posted at 9:12PM on Oct 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/20/larry-b-and-dannielynn-swingers/157#comments#ixzz0UGE0VQ7H

  91. Liann says:

    Opps I read and reposted upward, Anyway Thanks again Howard Supporter and Swims!,.

  92. Liann says:

    Beth I did not see your post, and I did it not in time-line. opps

  93. Liann says:

    but not all of their posts

  94. hmm says:

    JMA they did come out and read and I was on the phone for almost and hour while they went over past bills when My dad was alive.She determined it was caused by something continuously running and that was the only thing at that time that was left on sometimes all night..So was our own fault.Now they just somehow get the numbers electronically.I probably should check when it is over 100 but the kids do a whole lot of laundry and leave the dryer running a lot longer than I think is necessary.meaning they don’t check they just turn it on and leave and sometimes i notice they leave the stove oven on and leave also.Not much I can do in that department
    flowerz, wonder why that was released just now or do they just always release everything once in a while,
    heath I was able to read all the documents.No matter everything was shut down I guess you could say for lack of evidence or time ran out.Some of it looks like something the Marshalls might have tried to put thru.Seems someone turned her into the IRS bur it does not show anything done.At any rate I always heard when you turn someone in you better be sure you are very clean yourself because they also check you out. Don’t know how true it is
    It is 12::00AM and I see we still have two guest here One may be me as I can’t get signed back in.

  95. Liann says:

    that you posted, Yes it is a must read.

  96. hmm says:

    OOPs I see others are on now and I did finially get signed back in>I don’t know why I keep losing my avatar for my sign in.Maybe it goes off after every so often
    Liann thanks for the post I sometimes just can’t bring myself to go read over their because sometimes it gets so nasty

  97. BEVERLY says:

    Good Morning Folks,As I was falling asleep last night,something came on the tv,which woke me up,and made me angry.I do not know if it is me,but,I am having a hard time understanding the logic,in this world today.what I heard was Los Angeles–There are more marijuana stores here than public schools.Signs emblazoned with cannabis plants or green crosses sit next to dry cleaners ,gas stations,and restaurants.You know,these are supposed to be for medical purposes,who are they kidding,Now you will have half of LA walking around stoned out of there minds,and they are in court with Howard Stern,who was seen giving a woman he lives with meds,and by the way has ‘’so many medical problems you cannot count them all, “and the term (ENABLER) is being used,Would someone mind telling me what the hell the great Jerry Brown or the Dea,and Law Enforcement,(ENABLERS)only there are enabling a hell of a lot more people than ANY ONE i can see.

  98. DesertWalker says:

    85-Flowers

    What was really interesting was the Reading Room, even Gene Autry has 30 pages of FBI investigation files. Just reading the list of those who’ve been investigated is mind blowing…getting into some of the released details is going to be fascinating. Thanks for posting the link.

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