Comments on: Virgie Arthur, Dannielynn’s New Guardiain for the Purpose of “Marsy’s Law”? http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/ Celebrity and High Profile Lawsuits Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:23:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: NJ Lawyer http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-56592 NJ Lawyer Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:14:53 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-56592 Thank you for sharing this. You have a nice blog. Thank you for sharing this. You have a nice blog.

]]> By: sarah54 http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55376 sarah54 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:25:41 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55376 I will apologize ahead of time for the length of this post but I feel like these are important questions that need to be asked, answered and be open for discussion and comments. Perhaps, someone else may have know where there are facts, laws and or legal precedents that answer these questions. How can a person be charged much less convicted of a crime in one state for a death that was ruled an accidental drug overdose by the state that the death took place in? How can the state that the death "did not" take place in charge anyone with contributing to such death when the state in which the death occurred ruled that there was no evidence to bring criminal charges against anyone? How can a person's death be determined to be a violent death in one state when a person was ruled by the state in which the person died that the person died peacefully in their sleep of an accidental drug overdose? How can a biological mother claim to be a victim and expect monetary compensation for her daughter's violent death when her daughter's death which was ruled as an accidental drug overdose, the biological Mother who had no relationship with her daughter for 10-12 yrs prior to the daughter's death, admitted under oath in court to profitting monetarily and otherwise regarding her daughter's death, on national tv openly endorsed a book that drug her dead dauther's name through the mud, attended a party hosted by the author of the same book, and posed for pictures with the book's author and others that attended the party that were pubicly published in the national media? How could a biological Grandfather who admitted on national tv that he hadn't had a relationship with his dead daughter. Who also said on national tv that he hadn't seen or had any contact with his daughter in years possibly claim to be a victim of his daughter's death that was ruled as an accidental drug overdose? Doesn't a child's rights overule anyone's else's as the next of kin? If the child's parent had died of a violent death and not died peacefully in her sleep which was ruled as an accidental drug overdose and there were no criminal charges filed against anyone in the state in which the death occurred be the one and only victim in the death of her Mother? If the child's mother didn't die peacefully in her sleep and instead died a violent death wouldn't the person who was in the same room with her and suppose to be watching/taking care of her have noticed when she died? How can anyone possibly get custody of a child from their only living biological parent when that parent has had custody of a child from the time that the child was a few months old until the child is almost 3 yrs old, the only living biological and custodial parent has been made the child's legal guardinan by a court order and there is no evidence that the parent who has custody of the child is not providing a loving, safe and healthy environment for the child to live in? How can a biological Grandmother expect to get custody from the child's only living biological parent who has had custody of the child from the time the child was a few months old until within 2 months of the child's 3rd birthday when the biological Grandmother has had absolutely no relationship with the child? How can a grandmother who has admitted on national tv and in court under oath after her daughter's death that she did not have a relationship with her own daughter for 10-12 years prior to her daughter's death possibly have a snowball's chance in H_ LL of getting any type of custody of her Grandaughter? How can a Grandmother in their 60's whose own lawyer has stated in papers that "he" filed with the court that his client has a medical/mental condition that effects her memory and her ability to understand and make decisions regarding her own court cases expect to have any financial control or say in her minor Grandaughter's financial holdings or any that theGradaughter may receive in the future while she is still a minor child? How can a biological mother claim to be a victim and expect monetary compensation for her daughter's violent death when her daughter's death which was ruled as an accidental drug overdose, the biological Mother who had no relationship with her daughter for 10-12 yrs prior to the daughter's death, admitted under oath in court to profitting monetarily and otherwise regarding her daughter's death, on national tv openly endorsed a book that drug her dead dauther's name through the mud, attended a party hosted by the author of the same book, and posed for pictures with the book's author and others that attended the party that were pubicly published in the national media? How could a biological Grandfather who admitted on national tv that he hadn't had a relationship with his dead daughter. Who also said on national tv that he hadn't seen or had any contact with his daughter in years possibly claim to be a victim of his daughter's death that was ruled as an accidental drug overdose? Doesn't a child's rights overule anyone's else's as next of kin? If the child's parent had died of a violent death and not died peacefully in her sleep that was ruled as an accidental drug overdose and there were no criminal charges filed against anyone in the state in which the death occurred be the one and only victim in the death of her Mother? I will apologize ahead of time for the length of this post but I feel like these are important questions that need to be asked, answered and be open for discussion and comments. Perhaps, someone else may have know where there are facts, laws and or legal precedents that answer these questions.

How can a person be charged much less convicted of a crime in one state for a death that was ruled an accidental drug overdose by the state that the death took place in? How can the state that the death “did not” take place in charge anyone with contributing to such death when the state in which the death occurred ruled that there was no evidence to bring criminal charges against anyone?

How can a person’s death be determined to be a violent death in one state when a person was ruled by the state in which the person died that the person died peacefully in their sleep of an accidental drug overdose?

How can a biological mother claim to be a victim and expect monetary compensation for her daughter’s violent death when her daughter’s death which was ruled as an accidental drug overdose,
the biological Mother who had no relationship with her daughter for 10-12 yrs prior to the daughter’s death, admitted under oath in court to profitting monetarily and otherwise regarding her daughter’s death, on national tv openly endorsed a book that drug her dead dauther’s name through the mud, attended a party hosted by the author of the same book, and posed for pictures with the book’s author and others that attended the party that were pubicly published in the national media?

How could a biological Grandfather who admitted on national tv that he hadn’t had a relationship with his dead daughter. Who also said on national tv that he hadn’t seen or had any contact with his
daughter in years possibly claim to be a victim of his daughter’s death that was ruled as an accidental drug overdose?

Doesn’t a child’s rights overule anyone’s else’s as the next of kin?

If the child’s parent had died of a violent death and not died peacefully in her sleep which was ruled as an accidental drug overdose and there were no criminal charges filed against anyone in the state in which the death occurred be the one and only victim in the death of her Mother?

If the child’s mother didn’t die peacefully in her sleep and instead died a violent death wouldn’t the person who was in the same room with her and suppose to be watching/taking care of her have noticed when she died?

How can anyone possibly get custody of a child from their only living biological parent when that parent has had custody of a child from the time that the child was a few months old until the child is almost 3 yrs old, the only living biological and custodial parent has been made the child’s legal guardinan by a court order and there is no evidence that the parent who has custody of the child is not providing a loving, safe and healthy environment for the child to live in?

How can a biological Grandmother expect to get custody from the child’s only living biological parent who has had custody of the child from the time the child was a few months old until within 2 months of the child’s 3rd birthday when the biological Grandmother has had absolutely no relationship with the child?

How can a grandmother who has admitted on national tv and in court under oath after her
daughter’s death that she did not have a relationship with her own daughter for 10-12 years prior to her daughter’s death possibly have a snowball’s chance in H_ LL of getting any type of custody of her Grandaughter?

How can a Grandmother in their 60’s whose own lawyer has stated in papers that “he” filed with the court that his client has a medical/mental condition that effects her memory and her ability to understand and make decisions regarding her own court cases expect to have any financial control or say in her minor Grandaughter’s financial holdings or any that theGradaughter may receive in the future while she is still a minor child?

How can a biological mother claim to be a victim and expect monetary compensation for her daughter’s violent death when her daughter’s death which was ruled as an accidental drug overdose,
the biological Mother who had no relationship with her daughter for 10-12 yrs prior to the daughter’s death, admitted under oath in court to profitting monetarily and otherwise regarding her daughter’s death, on national tv openly endorsed a book that drug her dead dauther’s name through the mud, attended a party hosted by the author of the same book, and posed for pictures with the book’s author and others that attended the party that were pubicly published in the national media?

How could a biological Grandfather who admitted on national tv that he hadn’t had a relationship with his dead daughter. Who also said on national tv that he hadn’t seen or had any contact with his
daughter in years possibly claim to be a victim of his daughter’s death that was ruled as an accidental drug overdose?

Doesn’t a child’s rights overule anyone’s else’s as next of kin?

If the child’s parent had died of a violent death and not died peacefully in her sleep that was ruled as
an accidental drug overdose and there were no criminal charges filed against anyone in the state in which the death occurred be the one and only victim in the death of her Mother?

]]> By: sarah54 http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55369 sarah54 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:55:23 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55369 I will be the first to admit that I am not an expert on all of the laws of our country. I do have some knowledge of our legal system. I have to say that I have learned a lot about our laws and our legal system by reading the various legal documents posted on this site. I want toI thank the site owners/moderators who post the legal court actions that are a matter of public record. They save me a lot of time, keep me updated on the latest filings. They do the work for me. I can read. I have enough intelligence and common to comprehend what I read. I base my opinions on facts that are a matter of public record or what I have seen and heard with my own ears and eyes. I am mentally capable of reaching my own conclusion regarding those facts. My opinions are not based on the speculations of other people. I thought that in this site's coverage of all things related to Anna Nicole that one of it's purposes was to inform/proviide the actual public records (facts) of any and all legal actions regarding the various court cases/legal actions linked to Anna Nicole Simith to it's readers so that they could have access to the facts not speculation. For the readers of this site to be able to take these facts and reach their own opinions of the vaarious events of the legal cases and then have the option to discuss and give their opinions of what they have read. I want to I thank the site owners and or moderators who post the legal court action papers that are a matter of public record. They save me a lot of time, keep me updated on the latest filings and do the work for me. I will be the first to admit that I am not an expert on all of the laws of our country. I do have some knowledge of our legal system. I have to say that I have learned a lot about our laws and our legal system by reading the various legal documents posted on this site. I want toI thank the site owners/moderators who post the legal court actions that are a matter of public record. They save me a lot of time, keep me updated on the latest filings. They do the work for me. I can read. I have enough intelligence and common to comprehend what I read. I base my opinions on facts that are a matter of public record or what I have seen and heard with my own ears and eyes. I am mentally capable of reaching my own conclusion regarding those facts. My opinions are not based on the speculations of other people.

I thought that in this site’s coverage of all things related to Anna Nicole that one of it’s purposes was to inform/proviide the actual public records (facts) of any and all legal actions regarding the various court cases/legal actions linked to Anna Nicole Simith to it’s readers so that they could have access to the facts not speculation. For the readers of this site to be able to take these facts and reach their own opinions of the vaarious events of the legal cases and then have the option to discuss and give their opinions of what they have read.

I want to I thank the site owners and or moderators who post the legal court action papers that are a matter of public record. They save me a lot of time, keep me updated on the latest filings and do the work for me.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55277 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:34:04 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55277 DiamondGirl [109] I agree Anna and Michael’s deaths and or cases are not alike. Anna’s was a result of taking prescription which can be legally obtained where as Michael’s is looking as though it the result of something that is not given to anyone unless in a hospital and having a surgery or dental office. DiamondGirl [109] I agree Anna and Michael’s deaths and or cases are not alike. Anna’s was a result of taking prescription which can be legally obtained where as Michael’s is looking as though it the result of something that is not given to anyone unless in a hospital and having a surgery or dental office.

]]> By: Ken http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55269 Ken Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:54:43 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55269 New article up on MJ and new papers up where VA filed to have TS arrested New article up on MJ and new papers up where VA filed to have TS arrested

]]> By: Rose http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55268 Rose Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:54:32 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55268 July 22, 2009 Virgie Arthur's Response to Teresa Stephens Multiple Motions to Cancel Stephens Motions and for a Capias Order for the arrest of Stephens in Tarrant County or any other county in Texas and to be transported back to Harris County at the expense of Arthur.. http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2227 July 22, 2009 Virgie Arthur’s Response to Teresa Stephens Multiple Motions to Cancel Stephens Motions and for a Capias Order for the arrest of Stephens in Tarrant County or any other county in Texas and to be transported back to Harris County at the expense of Arthur..

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2227

]]> By: DiamondGirl http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55267 DiamondGirl Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:32:53 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55267 What they might charge Murry for is manslaughter or even possibly muder 2. This case is not like the smith saga at all. It wasn't Jackson popping pills, drinking ch and dying of an accidental overdose IF THE RUMORS ARE TO BE BELIEVED. This doctor inserted an IV line and dripped the drug into his system. Now if you want to talk enablers to Jackson's addiction then that is a different story. What they might charge Murry for is manslaughter or even possibly muder 2. This case is not like the smith saga at all. It wasn’t Jackson popping pills, drinking ch and dying of an accidental overdose IF THE RUMORS ARE TO BE BELIEVED. This doctor inserted an IV line and dripped the drug into his system. Now if you want to talk enablers to Jackson’s addiction then that is a different story.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55259 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:50:07 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55259 DiamondGirl [107] IMO if they go after this doctor they are going to have to go after all that had any connection with Michael Jackson. Wasn't it said during investigation Michael had somewhere around a dozen different doctors? Hope no other celebrity shared the same doctors as Michael cause that could possibly open a completely new assortment of problems, this just me thinking aloud and just my opinion of course. DiamondGirl [107] IMO if they go after this doctor they are going to have to go after all that had any connection with Michael Jackson. Wasn’t it said during investigation Michael had somewhere around a dozen different doctors? Hope no other celebrity shared the same doctors as Michael cause that could possibly open a completely new assortment of problems, this just me thinking aloud and just my opinion of course.

]]> By: DiamondGirl http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55256 DiamondGirl Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:37:23 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55256 Raid at Jackson's doctor Houston office today. However the doctor is in Las Vegas. Me thinks his ass is in a slam. Raid at Jackson’s doctor Houston office today. However the doctor is in Las Vegas. Me thinks his ass is in a slam.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55251 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:28:44 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55251 Beverly [105] yes I do remember seeing the look on Michael's face during the interview “Living with Michael Jackson” Michael got very emotional while talking about the beatings from his father Joe Jackson and he went on to say how Joe would give beatings with whatever he could get his hands on. Michael even mentions being thrown up against walls. Michael even told the journalist Martin Bashir how he feared his father due to the abuse and that is why he said he would never lay a hand on his own children. IMO regardless who Virgie sent Anna off to live with at the age of either 14 or 15 as a mother Virgie abandoned her own child and that alone is enough to leave an emotional scare. Beverly [105] yes I do remember seeing the look on Michael’s face during the interview “Living with Michael Jackson” Michael got very emotional while talking about the beatings from his father Joe Jackson and he went on to say how Joe would give beatings with whatever he could get his hands on. Michael even mentions being thrown up against walls.

Michael even told the journalist Martin Bashir how he feared his father due to the abuse and that is why he said he would never lay a hand on his own children.

IMO regardless who Virgie sent Anna off to live with at the age of either 14 or 15 as a mother Virgie abandoned her own child and that alone is enough to leave an emotional scare.

]]> By: BEVERLY http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55248 BEVERLY Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:59:12 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55248 JMA----Did you see the look on Michael,s face ,when he was talking about his mother trying to stop Joe.Vergie is saying.Anna was on drugs she did not know what she was talking about.If you notice,the two saints will take no responsibilty.Whatever did Vergie use for a excuse before Howard,Anna was a mess,drunk and doing drugs all those years before Howard,,Vergie RIPPED at her daughter all the time,I want the people in Texas, to know Vergie DID NOTHING TO HELP HER DAUGHTER NOTHING. JMA—-Did you see the look on Michael,s face ,when he was talking about his mother trying to stop Joe.Vergie is saying.Anna was on drugs she did not know what she was talking about.If you notice,the two saints will take no responsibilty.Whatever did Vergie use for a excuse before Howard,Anna was a mess,drunk and doing drugs all those years before Howard,,Vergie RIPPED at her daughter all the time,I want the people in Texas, to know Vergie DID NOTHING TO HELP HER DAUGHTER NOTHING.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55246 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:43:36 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55246 My comment #103 was in reference to my post in the other thread. My comment #103 was in reference to my post in the other thread.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55244 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:40:51 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55244 Oops should have provided link in reference to the tidbit [#5] concerning Marsy’s Law http://orangecountyda.com/docs/104634622009marsy_s_law.pdf Oops should have provided link in reference to the tidbit [#5] concerning Marsy’s Law

http://orangecountyda.com/docs/104634622009marsy_s_law.pdf

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55241 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:36:57 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55241 Speaking of Joe Jackson has anyone else notice how he has made himself available to the media since the death of his son but the rest of the family is sorta hush-hush. Well besides that outlandish story, La Toya put out in the London tabloids. Also Joe like Virgie feel comfortable denying publicly abusing/beating [whatever you wanna call it] their children because their children are not here to call them out as liars. Oh how they forget though both Anna & Michael went public about the abuse and like I said Michael has two siblings that can also speak on his behalf. Speaking of Joe Jackson has anyone else notice how he has made himself available to the media since the death of his son but the rest of the family is sorta hush-hush. Well besides that outlandish story, La Toya put out in the London tabloids.

Also Joe like Virgie feel comfortable denying publicly abusing/beating [whatever you wanna call it] their children because their children are not here to call them out as liars. Oh how they forget though both Anna & Michael went public about the abuse and like I said Michael has two siblings that can also speak on his behalf.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55240 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:35:27 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55240 Ray [97] I caught some of Joe Jackson’s interview with LKL yesterday and of course he is denying ever beating Michael. Joe says “beating” goes back to the days of slavery and said he never beat Michael. Joe cleans it up a little by saying yes he “spanked” Michael and goes on to say, if any parent says they never spanked their child they are lying. So I guess old Joe Jackson would say my children are lying when they say I never spanked them. What Mr. Jackson is forgetting is Michael was not his only child who went public about the abuse they endured as children at the hands of Joe Jackson his sisters Janet & La Toya went public as well. Matter of fact I think La Toya even wrote a book and mentions being abused by Joe as a child. #98 I agree by both Anna & Michael leaving certain relatives out of their Wills says a lot. Ray [97] I caught some of Joe Jackson’s interview with LKL yesterday and of course he is denying ever beating Michael. Joe says “beating” goes back to the days of slavery and said he never beat Michael. Joe cleans it up a little by saying yes he “spanked” Michael and goes on to say, if any parent says they never spanked their child they are lying. So I guess old Joe Jackson would say my children are lying when they say I never spanked them. What Mr. Jackson is forgetting is Michael was not his only child who went public about the abuse they endured as children at the hands of Joe Jackson his sisters Janet & La Toya went public as well. Matter of fact I think La Toya even wrote a book and mentions being abused by Joe as a child.

#98 I agree by both Anna & Michael leaving certain relatives out of their Wills says a lot.

]]> By: BEVERLY http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55237 BEVERLY Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:36:16 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55237 GOOD MORNING ALL.---Last evening I had to go to the drug store.and stopped to talk to the pharmacist,he explained to me,even through they know me,and this goes for everyone,every time there is a prescrip for a narcotic,especially certain ones,the doctor is called.to verify,the name and drug.The pharmacist has a great responsibilty.If the prescrip were not filled the pt could not get them.Jerry Brown(if he cared at all) would go after the pharmacist,Howard did not put his name on the bottle,the Pharmacist DID.There is your felon. GOOD MORNING ALL.—Last evening I had to go to the drug store.and stopped to talk to the pharmacist,he explained to me,even through they know me,and this goes for everyone,every time there is a prescrip for a narcotic,especially certain ones,the doctor is called.to verify,the name and drug.The pharmacist has a great responsibilty.If the prescrip were not filled the pt could not get them.Jerry Brown(if he cared at all) would go after the pharmacist,Howard did not put his name on the bottle,the Pharmacist DID.There is your felon.

]]> By: DiamondGirl http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55236 DiamondGirl Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:25:19 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55236 To me there is a world of difference between Jackson and Smith in their deaths. One connection is that they both died too young. Yes took prescription medicines and abused them and IF the stories are true, Jackson had enablers around him also. But I do think in Jacksons case, there is a doctor who is directly resposible for his death. If this doctor inserted an IV line and started a drug into his vein, then at the very least this doctor committed manslaughter. Smith's death was due to her swallowing CH all on her own. Big damn difference. Jacksons death means more money to charties in CA. Brown is going to be busy looking like he gives two shits about Smith's death now that he can focus on a money maker for him. To me there is a world of difference between Jackson and Smith in their deaths. One connection is that they both died too young. Yes took prescription medicines and abused them and IF the stories are true, Jackson had enablers around him also. But I do think in Jacksons case, there is a doctor who is directly resposible for his death. If this doctor inserted an IV line and started a drug into his vein, then at the very least this doctor committed manslaughter. Smith’s death was due to her swallowing CH all on her own. Big damn difference.

Jacksons death means more money to charties in CA. Brown is going to be busy looking like he gives two shits about Smith’s death now that he can focus on a money maker for him.

]]> By: Ray http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55234 Ray Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:11:19 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55234 Oh yes another thing they talk about how MJ left his father NOTHING IN THE WILL. Which they said that tell's you a lot about how MJ felt about his father. But Anna didn't leave Virgie anything either. That tells me a lot also... She didn't want anything to do with Virgie. I look at Anna life and MJ and how close in some ways they were. Oh yes another thing they talk about how MJ left his father NOTHING IN THE WILL. Which they said that tell’s you a lot about how MJ felt about his father. But Anna didn’t leave Virgie anything either. That tells me a lot also… She didn’t want anything to do with Virgie. I look at Anna life and MJ and how close in some ways they were.

]]> By: Ray http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55233 Ray Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:06:07 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55233 Did anyone watch Showbiz Tonight? Well, they were debunking Joe Jackon's interview with Larry King last night. They said that MJ talked about his beating and mis treatment from his father and they said when a celebity tells a story about their pass it is most always the truth. Well, I find it funny that when Anna spoke the truth about Virgie the TX croup want to say she was lieing and on drugs at the time. I don't think Anna was on drugs I think she was hurt to the core after Daniel died and she had to speak the truth about her mother. Virgie had pushed Anna to the brink and she wasn't going to let this one be ignored. Anna was a very private person about her day's in TX with Virgie and I'm sure she didn't want the world to know about her pain. I believe Anna was more then embarrased to have the world know her life in those days. But Anna did what she had to do, to debunk Virgie's world wide media show. Now Virgie is still trying to distroy anyone or anything that gets in her way or her main agenda MONEY....Rose, evertime I see her picture on your web site of Virgie a cold chill goes down my back.... Did anyone watch Showbiz Tonight? Well, they were debunking Joe Jackon’s interview with Larry King last night. They said that MJ talked about his beating and mis treatment from his father and they said when a celebity tells a story about their pass it is most always the truth. Well, I find it funny that when Anna spoke the truth about Virgie the TX croup want to say she was lieing and on drugs at the time. I don’t think Anna was on drugs I think she was hurt to the core after Daniel died and she had to speak the truth about her mother. Virgie had pushed Anna to the brink and she wasn’t going to let this one be ignored. Anna was a very private person about her day’s in TX with Virgie and I’m sure she didn’t want the world to know about her pain. I believe Anna was more then embarrased to have the world know her life in those days. But Anna did what she had to do, to debunk Virgie’s world wide media show. Now Virgie is still trying to distroy anyone or anything that gets in her way or her main agenda MONEY….Rose, evertime I see her picture on your web site of Virgie a cold chill goes down my back….

]]> By: pixiesmom50 http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55232 pixiesmom50 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:18:52 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55232 I think they all have a hand in RC's book because every time she is losing something will happen to HS or something good for VA .I hope JB will have the same future like the DA for the Duk Unive . I think they all have a hand in RC’s book because every time she is losing something will happen to HS or something good for VA .I hope JB will have the same future like the DA for the Duk Unive .

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55231 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:22:18 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55231 hmm [93] what I am saying is, if I’m gonna go down for something it will be for whatever I myself said or done not for what someone who is pretending to be me is saying or doing. For some of us they will use our names/monikers to play childish games but for others like Lucky for instance the VA supporters who have AOL just as she does use her moniker and post nasty comments against their own and then turn around and point the finger at her. Don't get me wrong there are people [very few] over there who really want to discuss these case and do so in a mature manner but here lately it seems the majority just to wreak havoc on those who do not support their hero’s O’Quinn, McCabe and Virgie Arthur. As I said if I am going to go down for something, it would be because I did/said it not because of someone pretending to be me. hmm [93] what I am saying is, if I’m gonna go down for something it will be for whatever I myself said or done not for what someone who is pretending to be me is saying or doing. For some of us they will use our names/monikers to play childish games but for others like Lucky for instance the VA supporters who have AOL just as she does use her moniker and post nasty comments against their own and then turn around and point the finger at her.

Don’t get me wrong there are people [very few] over there who really want to discuss these case and do so in a mature manner but here lately it seems the majority just to wreak havoc on those who do not support their hero’s O’Quinn, McCabe and Virgie Arthur.

As I said if I am going to go down for something, it would be because I did/said it not because of someone pretending to be me.

]]> By: hmm http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55230 hmm Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:39:08 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55230 http://ag.ca.gov/victimservices/marsys_law.php http://www.friendsofmarsyslaw.org/yes-vote-on-prop-9.htm Just a couple of links to Marcy's law and I think it next of kin just for this law so they can see what is going on and from reading the law is the victim VA or ANS.If it is ANS it seems to me it would stop the defense from putting out what Anna was being treated for,which I am sure McShame does not want and if it is for VA it stops the defense from showing what kind of mother she was not.,They would not be able to show how she did nothing to help her daughter or the way she helped with the lies in this case,trying to get LB to sign over rights to her ,trying to get the SC people in the middle of this suit,.I hope the good people of California don't get taken in by this cabal of attorneys from Texas,Seems to me they just bided their time to file this and IMO it was what they were after when stolen material was sent to JB.JUst what did VA have to do with those stolen materal being sent to JB? http://ag.ca.gov/victimservices/marsys_law.php
http://www.friendsofmarsyslaw.org/yes-vote-on-prop-9.htm
Just a couple of links to Marcy’s law and I think it next of kin just for this law so they can see what is going on and from reading the law is the victim VA or ANS.If it is ANS it seems to me it would stop the defense from putting out what Anna was being treated for,which I am sure McShame does not want and if it is for VA it stops the defense from showing what kind of mother she was not.,They would not be able to show how she did nothing to help her daughter or the way she helped with the lies in this case,trying to get LB to sign over rights to her ,trying to get the SC people in the middle of this suit,.I hope the good people of California don’t get taken in by this cabal of attorneys from Texas,Seems to me they just bided their time to file this and IMO it was what they were after when stolen material was sent to JB.JUst what did VA have to do with those stolen materal being sent to JB?

]]> By: hmm http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55228 hmm Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:14:18 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55228 JMA LET THEM DO WHAT THEY SAY IN THE END YOU WOULD BE VINDICATED ANYWAY AND THEY WOULD HAVE ATTORNEYS FEES TO BOOT harassment PURE AND SIMPLE JMA LET THEM DO WHAT THEY SAY IN THE END YOU WOULD BE VINDICATED ANYWAY AND THEY WOULD HAVE ATTORNEYS FEES TO BOOT harassment PURE AND SIMPLE

]]> By: hmm http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55227 hmm Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:12:10 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55227 I saw this over on TMZ the other day something someone copied and pasted from WV but they made it seem more than it is and I think Rose is right we all needed to know this as when I first read it I thought she could get custody but after reading this it has nothing to do with Dannielynn it is McShames way of trying to make people think VA got something when she actually got nothing at least not yet and I hope never,To bad Howard's Parents can't charge VA with the crime of harassment.I wonder why all the Pro se people can't go after McShame for Harassment because that is what He has done I saw this over on TMZ the other day something someone copied and pasted from WV but they made it seem more than it is and I think Rose is right we all needed to know this as when I first read it I thought she could get custody but after reading this it has nothing to do with Dannielynn it is McShames way of trying to make people think VA got something when she actually got nothing at least not yet and I hope never,To bad Howard’s Parents can’t charge VA with the crime of harassment.I wonder why all the Pro se people can’t go after McShame for Harassment because that is what He has done

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55226 JMA Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:02:52 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55226 Bev ~~ yep as funny as reading the Sunday morning comics I always say. Thing is some of those VA supporters use our names/monikers to slam others and their own and then they all band together claiming screen shots are taken and liable lawsuits and being filed. I want it on the record one I do not post over there, two when I posted there my location showed, and I never used my JMA moniker. Bev ~~ yep as funny as reading the Sunday morning comics I always say. Thing is some of those VA supporters use our names/monikers to slam others and their own and then they all band together claiming screen shots are taken and liable lawsuits and being filed. I want it on the record one I do not post over there, two when I posted there my location showed, and I never used my JMA moniker.

]]> By: BEVERLY http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55223 BEVERLY Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:06:00 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55223 JMA---They also made up a stolen comment for me,But,you know,no one reads that site except for the fools that write on it,I do for a Laugh,They think they are so (smart ass) They sound like a bunch of PRE-SCHOOL CHILDREN,and believe me,there stupidity wears thin.As long as they are happy,let them enjoy themselfs.What makes me laugh even more is Vergie thinking she is a victim.poor Anna,had her abuse,and again Vergie on the PITTY POT,Any mother ,that cannot face the fact,she was abusive,I hope it will all come out,and trust me,there will be no money for PITTY POT VERGIE. JMA—They also made up a stolen comment for me,But,you know,no one reads that site except for the fools that write on it,I do for a Laugh,They think they are so (smart ass) They sound like a bunch of PRE-SCHOOL CHILDREN,and believe me,there stupidity wears thin.As long as they are happy,let them enjoy themselfs.What makes me laugh even more is Vergie thinking she is a victim.poor Anna,had her abuse,and again Vergie on the PITTY POT,Any mother ,that cannot face the fact,she was abusive,I hope it will all come out,and trust me,there will be no money for PITTY POT VERGIE.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55222 JMA Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:30:55 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55222 Idiot over at Topix using my moniker, news flash JMA does not use or have AOL!! Idiot over at Topix using my moniker, news flash JMA does not use or have AOL!!

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55221 JMA Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:25:16 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55221 Beverly [87] I wondered the same thing concerning the multiple medications that were found during the raid at Neverland. Just think Michael’s death could have been prevented had they investigated all those medications. Anyone by chance read that posters [McC S] comment over at Topix wondering whether Jerry Brown/California plans to charge Larry with conspiracy. IMO if JB did/could he better be charging several others as well. Let’s not forget the Shelley's & Payne from April to June 2006 feed Anna multiple scripts during her pregnancy. JB may also wanna look into that rumor about G. Ben Thompson’s name being on a prescription intend for Anna too. Beverly [87] I wondered the same thing concerning the multiple medications that were found during the raid at Neverland. Just think Michael’s death could have been prevented had they investigated all those medications.

Anyone by chance read that posters [McC S] comment over at Topix wondering whether Jerry Brown/California plans to charge Larry with conspiracy. IMO if JB did/could he better be charging several others as well. Let’s not forget the Shelley’s & Payne from April to June 2006 feed Anna multiple scripts during her pregnancy. JB may also wanna look into that rumor about G. Ben Thompson’s name being on a prescription intend for Anna too.

]]> By: BEVERLY http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55220 BEVERLY Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:41:10 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55220 PS---To my above statement,If it took 2 years of investigation,for the DEA and Brown to come up with these charges,WHY IS MICHAEL DEAD?years ago,they could have helped BUT IGNORED,the drugs found at Neverland,to me MY opinion,(shit poor job) for the Dea and Brown office,it let all this go on while he was in office.Howard was not the first to have his name on a med bottle,I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE TRILLION.,WHILE jERRY BROWN SAT IN HIS OFFICE. PS—To my above statement,If it took 2 years of investigation,for the DEA and Brown to come up with these charges,WHY IS MICHAEL DEAD?years ago,they could have helped BUT IGNORED,the drugs found at Neverland,to me MY opinion,(shit poor job) for the Dea and Brown office,it let all this go on while he was in office.Howard was not the first to have his name on a med bottle,I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE TRILLION.,WHILE jERRY BROWN SAT IN HIS OFFICE.

]]> By: BEVERLY http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55219 BEVERLY Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:23:30 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55219 You know,there is another thing I am growing tired of.Anna,just like Michael took drugs for pain,some real,some imaginary,no matter what purpose.it was Anna,s problem,just like it was Michael,s problem.and there comes a time when you have to stop blaming everyone but the person themselfs.They both would have found a way to get what they wanted,This using other people,s name on the bottle of meds has been going on years and years,and for years while Jerry Brown was in office THAT TO THE STUPID PEOPLE AT TOPIX,is what Howard Attorney meant when he said Jerry Brown was the (enabler)Also MY OPINION----THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ,that investagated Michael,Neverland,where massive drugs where found and did nothing also ENABLED.How come all the years of Brown being in office this went on?cannot count the number of people,Michael,used for different names FOR YEARS ,WHILE BROWN WAS IN OFFICE, You know,there is another thing I am growing tired of.Anna,just like Michael took drugs for pain,some real,some imaginary,no matter what purpose.it was Anna,s problem,just like it was Michael,s problem.and there comes a time when you have to stop blaming everyone but the person themselfs.They both would have found a way to get what they wanted,This using other people,s name on the bottle of meds has been going on years and years,and for years while Jerry Brown was in office THAT TO THE STUPID PEOPLE AT TOPIX,is what Howard Attorney meant when he said Jerry Brown was the (enabler)Also MY OPINION—-THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ,that investagated Michael,Neverland,where massive drugs where found and did nothing also ENABLED.How come all the years of Brown being in office this went on?cannot count the number of people,Michael,used for different names FOR YEARS ,WHILE BROWN WAS IN OFFICE,

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55218 JMA Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:03:25 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55218 AJM [80] sent you a reply. AJM [80] sent you a reply.

]]> By: AJM http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55217 AJM Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:01:55 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55217 Thank you Ken Thank you Ken

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55216 JMA Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:00:12 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55216 Lucky ~~ saw your comment with the honorable mentioned of me :blushing: ah shucks. Lucky ~~ saw your comment with the honorable mentioned of me :blushing: ah shucks.

]]> By: Ken http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55215 Ken Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:56:30 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55215 AJM, It depends on which Federal judge they report to. Their jobs could be varied. They don't hear jury trials nor pass sentence in criminal trials. Some judges don't use them (such as Judge Chin) while other do. AJM, It depends on which Federal judge they report to. Their jobs could be varied. They don’t hear jury trials nor pass sentence in criminal trials. Some judges don’t use them (such as Judge Chin) while other do.

]]> By: Rose http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55214 Rose Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:54:50 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55214 July 7, 2009 a housekeeping Order changing Magistrates reporting to the judge that oversees the terms of settlement in the Stern vs. O'Quinn lawsuit the Administrative judge did the reassignments of several courts and in fact in this case we have seen this happen once before about 18 months ago. http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2226 July 7, 2009 a housekeeping Order changing Magistrates reporting to the judge that oversees the terms of settlement in the Stern vs. O’Quinn lawsuit the Administrative judge did the reassignments of several courts and in fact in this case we have seen this happen once before about 18 months ago.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2226

]]> By: AJM http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55212 AJM Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:52:59 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55212 Hey JMA you have mail Hey JMA you have mail

]]> By: AJM http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55211 AJM Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:50:00 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55211 Never JMA Never JMA

]]> By: AJM http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55210 AJM Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:49:22 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55210 What is the job of the magistrate, if you don;t mind me asking Nothing to be sorry about Ken, you guys do so much What is the job of the magistrate, if you don;t mind me asking

Nothing to be sorry about Ken, you guys do so much

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55209 JMA Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:48:44 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55209 correction s/b "It" may have been not "I" AJM, now you can smack mine :-( correction s/b “It” may have been not “I”

AJM, now you can smack mine :-(

]]> By: AJM http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55208 AJM Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:47:35 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55208 Thank you very much Ken Thank you very much Ken

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55207 JMA Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:45:59 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55207 AJM [72] smacking fingers :lol: just kidding I knew what you were saying. Yeah according to McCabe Virgie has some issues going on that cause her not to remember certain things and he tried to use it in one of his filings. Not sure if he said, it was an Aneurysm though I may have been the claim from VA supporters. Also not sure as to when VA’s started having supposed health issues either. AJM [72] smacking fingers :lol: just kidding I knew what you were saying.

Yeah according to McCabe Virgie has some issues going on that cause her not to remember certain things and he tried to use it in one of his filings. Not sure if he said, it was an Aneurysm though I may have been the claim from VA supporters. Also not sure as to when VA’s started having supposed health issues either.

]]> By: Ken http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55205 Ken Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:39:25 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55205 AJM, it just means the Administrative judge reassigned the magistrates that work for the federal judges. Sorry, we've had it since the 7th but forgot to code it in. It stays under the same judge but just the magistrate has been reassigned. It's been done before in this (the Florida) case, bout a year ago. AJM, it just means the Administrative judge reassigned the magistrates that work for the federal judges. Sorry, we’ve had it since the 7th but forgot to code it in. It stays under the same judge but just the magistrate has been reassigned. It’s been done before in this (the Florida) case, bout a year ago.

]]> By: AJM http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55203 AJM Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:25:07 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55203 Does anyone know what this means New papers Certification of Transfer 7/20/09 http://www.angelfire.com/teamtexas-virgie/CertofTransFL.pdf Does anyone know what this means New papers

Certification of Transfer 7/20/09

http://www.angelfire.com/teamtexas-virgie/CertofTransFL.pdf

]]> By: AJM http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55201 AJM Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:59:51 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55201 Excuse my spelling. But I know you all get what I am saying. Excuse my spelling. But I know you all get what I am saying.

]]> By: AJM http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55200 AJM Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:58:45 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55200 Tell me if I am wrong, but hasn't it been said that Virgie had a anysum or something like that, for that is why she cannot remember to much. So are they going to blame that on Howard also, to get money from this Marsy’s Law? I knew something was up for they did not contest the will or Howard being made executor. We all wondered why she did not fight in California for custody of Dannielyn, now we all know the reason. They pushing with their lies to get Howard into that court anyway they could. Now they have done that, and now this. Tell me if I am wrong, but hasn’t it been said that Virgie had a anysum or something like that, for that is why she cannot remember to much. So are they going to blame that on Howard also, to get money from this Marsy’s Law?

I knew something was up for they did not contest the will or Howard being made executor. We all wondered why she did not fight in California for custody of Dannielyn, now we all know the reason. They pushing with their lies to get Howard into that court anyway they could. Now they have done that, and now this.

]]> By: Rose http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55199 Rose Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:55:55 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55199 I have written my thoughts of Walter Cronkite and what he taught me and what my family thought during the turbulent 60's and 70's, maybe some of you near my age will remember feeling the emotions I felt because of Cronkite. I have written my thoughts of Walter Cronkite and what he taught me and what my family thought during the turbulent 60’s and 70’s, maybe some of you near my age will remember feeling the emotions I felt because of Cronkite.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55198 JMA Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:41:10 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55198 OK still trying to see how it is team Texas thinks Virgie Arthur has any rights under the Marsy’s Law and after reading it for the umpteen times I still don’t see it. This here looks similar to the same rights someone has when filing a Wrongful Death Suit and again none of it applies to Virgie due to she lost nothing meaning she was not left responsible for Anna’s burial, medical, etc. ************************************************************************ How Does A Victim Enforce Their Rights Under Marsy’s Law? You (or your next of kin) may ask the court for money for losses you suffered because of the crime. This is called restitution and is paid by the defendant. You have the right to be compensated for some crime-related losses, such as personal injury, counseling, lost wages, medical bills, and funeral and burial expenses. trina [68] well IMO that makeover of hers was somewhat criminal [meaning no improvement] think maybe she can get restitution for that :lol: OK still trying to see how it is team Texas thinks Virgie Arthur has any rights under the Marsy’s Law and after reading it for the umpteen times I still don’t see it.

This here looks similar to the same rights someone has when filing a Wrongful Death Suit and again none of it applies to Virgie due to she lost nothing meaning she was not left responsible for Anna’s burial, medical, etc.

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How Does A Victim Enforce Their Rights Under Marsy’s Law?
You (or your next of kin) may ask the court for money for losses you suffered because of the crime. This is called restitution and is paid by the defendant. You have the right to be compensated for some crime-related losses, such as personal injury, counseling, lost wages, medical bills, and funeral and burial expenses.

trina [68] well IMO that makeover of hers was somewhat criminal [meaning no improvement] think maybe she can get restitution for that :lol:

]]> By: trina http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55197 trina Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:11:06 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55197 The medical bills have to be related to the crime. The medical bills have to be related to the crime.

]]> By: Grammy http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55196 Grammy Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:01:35 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55196 I read in one of the many articles that up to 10,000 can be restitution for medical bills of the family. But I am sure this is meant for actual medical treatments not make overs or liposuction. IYKWIM I read in one of the many articles that up to 10,000 can be restitution for medical bills of the family. But I am sure this is meant for actual medical treatments not make overs or liposuction. IYKWIM

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/07/20/virgie-arthur-dannielynn%e2%80%99s-new-guardiain-for-the-purpose-of-%e2%80%9cmarsy%e2%80%99s-law%e2%80%9d/#comment-55193 JMA Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:07:42 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1818#comment-55193 Rose [64] though I am not legal smart but do consider myself as to having common sense and with all that I have read so far concerning Marsy's Law I have yet to see where Virgie is entitled to anything other than like you said she will be able to be present during the trial should it go forward. Therefore, this is why I made the comment yesterday in reference to Team Texas counting their chickens before the eggs even hatch. Team Texas has Howard already convicted before the case has even went before the court. Rose [64] though I am not legal smart but do consider myself as to having common sense and with all that I have read so far concerning Marsy’s Law I have yet to see where Virgie is entitled to anything other than like you said she will be able to be present during the trial should it go forward. Therefore, this is why I made the comment yesterday in reference to Team Texas counting their chickens before the eggs even hatch. Team Texas has Howard already convicted before the case has even went before the court.

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