Is G. Ben Thompson’s Lawyer Susan Brown Going to Bring All of House of Cards Down? Geraldo – “Tough Sh%@*!” Part 1 Ford Shelley.
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At what point did Gerald say “Tough Shi%@*!”? I remember Ford Shelley appearing on Greta Van Susteren’s On The Record on Fox numerous times beginning shortly after the break in of Horizons with copies of tapes, pictures, emails etc. I believe I remember that Ford Shelley and his wife Gina even invited Greta Van Susteren’s on a tour of their home in South Carolina proudly showing it off and which rooms Anna Nicole Smith her son Daniel Smith and Howard K. Stern had stayed in during the Christmas holidays of 2005. Didn’t Shelley and his family, Laurie Payne and didn’t even Ben Thompson appear on at least of one of Geraldo’s shows? Then there is the March 31, 2007 hour long show that towards the end Ford Shelley told Howard K. Stern to “Bring it on”, I guess Lin Wood took Shelley up on that and it would appear if Shelley’s deposition is to be believed that Shelley cried like a baby to try to keep Geraldo from showing some tape on one of the shows, would that be the Oct. 2007 show? I also remember Shelley saying smugly that Howard [K. Stern] would be surprise when he learned how many copies of the hard drives had been made and who had them. I guess that surprise is now NOT one.
So is Ford Shelley and father-in-law G. Ben Thompson throwing one of their attorneys Susan M. Brown under the bus or would that be an eighteen wheeler?
Ford Shelley refers to both Danny Santiago, his boss lady, Ford Shelley and “for him, [Shelly], Susan Brown. Frankly I don’t see anything wrong with that, would most people who could afford an attorney have one present during a recorded statement to be used by the California DOJ or the California Bureau of Narcotics. It appears from Shelley’s June 2, 2009 deposition that is what he is saying and that it was Susan Brown and not one of his criminal attorneys he asked to be present during that taped statement.
Ford Shelley goes on to say he “avoid Agent Santiago calls until his lawyer Tommy Brittain told Shelley that he “needed to meet with [Santiago]” …”My lawyer in Florida set it up.” Both lawyers were top criminal attorneys that Shelley retained right after arriving back in the U. S. from Horizons after Anna Nicole Smith’s death. Mr. Brittain if I remember correctly went with Shelley to turn in the items taken from Horizons to the Horry County Sheriff’s department on the afternoon of February 12, 2007 and it was Shelley’s attorney in Florida, Walter “Skip” Campbell, Esq., if I am not mistaken that talked Dr. Perper into holding up the autopsy results to late in March 2007 on Smith pending that Shelley wanted Dr. Perper to look at some evidence on some computer that Shelley and his Florida attorney thought would implicate Howard K. Stern and that was all in Feb. and March 2007.
What is up with this tape of Ben Thompson on Fox about being a pedophile that Neil McCabe allegedly called about and then wanted to talk to Shelley about “did I [Shelley] find the tape?” What tape is Shelley referring to in this part of his deposition? That last conversation with McCabe occurred two weeks or mid May 2009 with Shelley if Shelley’s memory was finely alert enough to remember who and when he talked to any of these people. Before that it had been about a year ago, [May 2008], when “they came to town. ..John O’Quinn, Neil McCabe, Don Clark and WV [and] “that was to see the Clown Video”. Didn’t Ford Shelley appear at the burial proceedings in February 2007 as a witness for O’Quinn and didn’t Shelley authenticate and offer into evidence a segment of that now infamous clown video?
Some of the other highlights from Ford Shelley excerpt of his deposition on June 2, 2009 that caught by eye are the following:
“I didn’t feel comfortable…. I didn’t feel comfortable just in general. I mean, I didn’t – other than that meeting they [Neil McCabe, Don Clark and WV], asked to speak. Susan Brown set it up. … [Meeting] lasted a couple of hours maybe.” … There was nothing to tell. My issue through all of this is just about ownership of the house, not — not being drug into accusing anybody of anything because I have no knowledge of that. My issue is with the house and I don’t want to be involved in the other parts of this thing….on October the 27th of 07, on Geraldo’s show, which — I said it, Anna — when Geraldo referred to Anna in her drunken stupor and those things, it upset me. And I even clarified him and said, “No, she wouldn’t have done anything to her my child ever”, okay? and I know that. …and Howard is — he’s cold hearted. …I’m mad that it’s been drawn out this… My bitch is about the money I spent for the house and I’m being drug into these other things and what I found used against others and I don’t like it. ..No, but I’m going to say this. If she thought it was in our best interest, [Ms. Brown handing over copies of tapes to be copied], or she was served, then she has my authority to release it if that was required. …”
Here are some of the highlights that caught my eye from Ford Shelley’s excerpt of his deposition on June 3, 2009:
(Q) Did you tell Larry Birkhead that you would not return the clown video to him because it showed your daughter Riley on it and so you were therefore asserting ownership of the clown video?
(A) I told Larry Birkhead that — yes, Sir, I did…Because I meant it and I said it. And I turned it over to the California Department of Justice when I was required.
(Q) Have you talked wit her [Susan M. Brown], about why she would have given Don Clark of Neil McCabe or Anna Nicole Smith’s hard drive so that they could copy those hard drives?
(A) I called her yesterday and asked her. …She said it was part of a lawsuit that was in — with Virgie Arthur. And I told her that I don’t know and I don’t remember — I haven’t signed anything agreeing to be a party to a lawsuit. And she said “Well, I have to find out,” I said, “I *wasn’t*
(Q) So this was news to you, what she told you yesterday?
(A) You floored me yesterday, sir. … Your damn right. I didn’t know it. .. I did not know it. …So I had to back up and regroup and say, you know what, he was right to feel what he feels. His feelings are right too. He’s got feelings. And how he is taking this in matters. And I just don’t look at myself anymore. I’ve got to look at how he sees it, how I see it, but what really is the truth, and the truth is in the eyes of the beholder. There’s a happy medium. He wasn’t wrong and neither was I. We both said and did things. Truce I’m ready to go on…”
Is the “he” that Ford Shelley is talking about Howard K. Stern? If it is Howard K. Stern how will this deposition compare with the taped interview with Agent Danny Santiago? If the “he” is Howard K. Stern, how could this deposition and this last statement help or hurt the California criminal charges?
I was going to try to get this all in one article but there is just way too much. I suggest you pick up all eighteen documents filed on Monday as listed below and I will have Part 2 tomorrow which will be G. Ben Thompson and his son Gaither.
Here is a list of the documents:
July 13, 2009, The Estate of Anna Nicole Smith Response to attorney Susan M. Brown’s Motion to Quash Subpoena Duces Tecum filed in the Federal Court for the Northern District of Georgia.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2199.
July 13, 2009, The Estate of Anna Nicole Smith’s Request for Oral Arguments on the Response to and request to Compel Susan M. Brown Motion to Quash Subpoena Duces Tecum.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2198.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit A – A Copy of the Original Suit in this case filed in the Federal Court in South Carolina; Court papers appointing Howard K. Stern as Executor and Special Administrator by the California Probate Court; Copy of Anna Nicole Smith’s Will; Copy of Injunction filed in the Bahamas against G. Ben Thompson and others not to interfere in the residence of Anna Nicole Smith at the house known as “Horizons”; Letter Dated March 30, 2007 from Lily Sanchez to Walter “Skip” Campbell, Esq. [Ford Shelley's criminal attorney in Florida], demanding the return of the “stolen items”; press release from Howard K. Stern from February 2007 about the items alleged stolen from the Bahamas residence known as “Horizons”; Letter Dated April 13, 2007 from Lin Wood to Walter G. “Skip” Campbell, Jr. Esq. “;. Letter Dated May 31, 2007 from Lin Wood to Thomas C. Brittain, Esq {Ford Shelley’s S. C. Criminal attorney} demanding the return of the “stolen items; Letter Dated June 21, 2007 from Lin Wood to Thomas C. Brittain, Esq. demanding the return of the “stolen items; Letter Dated July 25, 2007 from Lin Wood to Thomas C. Brittain, Esq. demanding the return of the “stolen items; Letter Dated October 30, 2007 from Lin Wood to Susan M. Brown (new lawyer for Ford Shelley in Georgia) demanding the return of the “stolen items; Letter Dated November 29, 2007 from Lin Wood to Susan M. Brown demanding the return of the “stolen items; and emails between Larry Birkhead and Ford Shelley.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2211.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit B – A Copy of the Declaration of Howard K. Stern filed in the Original Proceeding in S. C. federal Court.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2200.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit C Press Release about the alleged stolen items from “Horizons” issued by Howard K. Stern with a copy showing Fox picked it up online on February 13, 2007.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2201.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit D – Copy of Subpoena served on Susan M. Brown on June 30, 2009.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2202.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit E – Copy of Subpoena served on Susan M. Brown’s Law Office Custodial of Records on June 30, 2009.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2203.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit F part 1 – Motion and Memorandum of Law in Support to not cooperate with Rita Cosby nor respond to her Subpoena on G. Ben Thompson or Ford Shelley filed August 19, 2008 in the federal court in S. C.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2212.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit F part 2 – Exhibits filed with Motion and Memorandum of Law in Support to not cooperate with Rita Cosby nor respond to her Subpoena on G. Ben Thompson or Ford Shelley filed August 19, 2008 in the federal court in S. C. which are an exact replica of Exhibit A of these filings.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2213.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit F part 3 – Exhibits filed with Motion and Memorandum of Law in Support to not cooperate with Rita Cosby nor respond to her Subpoena on G. Ben Thompson or Ford Shelley filed August 19, 2008 in the federal court in S. C. which includes a copy of the Subpoena Deuces Tecum files by Rita Cosby on Ford Shelley and G. Ben Thompson and the letters back and forth between Luke Lantta and Susan Brown in the month of August 2008.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2214.
July 13, 2008 Exhibit G – Copy of Consented Agreed Order of Injunction prohibiting the compliance to the Subpoena Duces Tecum as issued by the federal court of S. C. on January 16, 2009.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2204.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit H – Pictures of two imaged of hard drives as they were delivered to Powell Goldstein now Bryan Cave via carrier in January 2009.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2215.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit I – Excerpts from Ford Shelley’s deposition dated June 2, 2009.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2205.
July 13, 2009 Exhibit M – Excerpts from Ford Shelley’s deposition dated June 3, 2009
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2209.
The rest of the Exhibits will be referred to in tomorrow’s article are open to ALL to download not just members of Rose Speaks.Com.
What is Ford Shelley believable rating to you after reading through all of this?
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I remember seeing Ford, Gina & Laurie Payne on Geraldo that’s the one where Laurie tells how she gave Anna prescription medications [Methadone I think] while pregnant.
In reference to McCabe asking if Ford found the “tape” that is exactly what I was wondering “what tape” was McCabe referring to. Was it possible McCabe thought the supposed “Sex Tape” was amongst the things stolen from the Horizons and he thought he [McCabe] would get his hot little hands on it? If that supposed tape had been amongst the stolen items I wonder if McCabe would have handed it over to Rita letting her take credit or would he have held on to it himself.
So is Ford Shelley’s Attorney Susan Brown leading him to believe he is/may be part of the Texas lawsuit? I’m kinda getting that she was/is, hmm.
Interesting question concerning who Ford may have been talking about “he wasn’t wrong and neither was I” sure sounds like it could be Howard and it sure seems as though Ford wants to call a Truce with him.
ROSE—THANK YOU FOR THE DOCS——I do not know if I am having forgetfullness ,but if some one to could help me out.QUESTION-Well,my question is simple.The one and only time since Anna Nicole death that you went into Horizons and directed anyone to take out any items of personal property was on the occasion I believe on FEB 9.ANSWER YES it was under my lawyer direction she met me there.Now am I CONFUSED,or did FS say Anna requested if anything happen he was to go in a take personal items,and when ART Harris put the Video of Anna having a battle with FS,HE COULD NOT keep saying Anna wanted him in the Horizons,also I thought it was with PRO-PINDER .could someone correct me
Great article Rose!
“..No, but I’m going to say this. If she thought it was in our best interest, [Ms. Brown handing over copies of tapes to be copied], or she was served, then she has my authority to release it if that was required. …”
LOL, LOL… “my authority”??? LOL!!!
Yes, Ford, real smart! You HAVE NO AUTHORITY to give away STOLEN PROPERTY! (or) even let them copy it!!!
Howard is Executor of Anna’s property, he is the ONLY one to do anything with her things!
Anna knew that he would make sure that her child (Daniel or Dannie-Lynn) would get everything that she had. Howard could have made Anna’s holdings (that truly were not very much at the time of her death) into a lucrative amount for her daughter… UNTIL, the TX, SC, NY, DO and others made her reputation a lot worse than it needed to be! None of that stuff should have been out in the public! Hell, the Estate of Anna SHOULD SUE each and every one of those people who twisted, spun and lied about her being in a drugged up stupor all of the time! There are one or two over there at Topix who firmly believe that crap! They say VA should get everything! I have a feeling it is VA herself typing that nonsense! LOL ;) IYKWIM
Hello Beverly!
Maybe Rose could answer that one for you… FS confuses the heck out of me!
JMA – I posted a reply to your last comment on the other thread. In regards to “what tape”, bet you’re right. They needed that tape badly for the NY case.
Rose and Ken – Thank you for the documents.
Beverly, I believe it was a Bahamian female attorney that accompanied FS and crew into Horizons. Maybe Ferguson.
Beth [3] nice catch on the “my authority” you are absolutely correct, Ford Shelley has no authority when it comes to any item he stole from the Horizons.
Oh so they feel Virgie should get what rightfully belongs to DL, bullshit! If Anna wanted Virgie Arthur to have anything, she would have named her in the Will.
Beth [4] right there with yah, confusing as all hell.
Anyone catch WV’s crap about Ford lying and that he never said any of this when she and Clark spoke to him and she can prove it due to she “ALWAYS” takes notes and records meetings. I could be wrong but don’t you have to inform everyone in the meeting you are recording him or her, or is it legal to walk into a meeting concealing a tape recorder? Hope she informed all parties that the meeting was being recorded.
Sammy1 [5] I left you a response back.
#2 Beverly, I think he is talking about Tracy Ferguson the lawyer who works with Michael Scott who G. Ben Thompson is NOW suing…. or was… yea you have to have a score card to keep up with FS and his ever changing stories… I want to know who sold the photo to TMZ.com so soon after FS knows pictures of it was taken during his “stroll” through Horizons that day…
Speaking of GBT suing former Attorney Michael Scott does anyone know what is going on with the Horizon; asking due to rumor floating around yesterday that GBT got it back. I know it has to be bull due to it would have been plastered all over the NET if he did.
Wow lots to read and lots to discuss but I will have to hold off until tomorrow my eyes are getting sleepy. With that said, I bid all a goodnight sleep tight and don’t let the Biddies’ bite.
There’s Wilma’s name again. I got a question. Now, we’ve all heard Wilma’s claim that she doesn’t work for O’Quinn Lawfirm in any capacity and she’s never been paid, worked for, blah blah blah. Yet, here she is in S.C. watching a video tape that was stolen from Horizons and illegally being passed around.
That brings up another question. If, as it appears, Susan Brown gave those hard drives to McCabe and Co to be imaged and those hard drives we know were stolen, that makes McCabe and Co. KNOWINGLY in possession of stolen property. What now?
That should be a ? after around.
should read “illegally being passed around?” Things that make you go hmmmm…… no pun intended.
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JMA
The problem is that EVERYONE of them have lied at one time or another about something so who can believe any of them? This isn’t good for Team Tx and I bet they are in major spin cycle.
I saw where WV did say she recorded their little visit with SC gang. But then she said she never worked for TX gang. So how did she have any rights to record any conversation. She talks out of both side of her mouth. It’s time for this women to have a little visit from Woods. Maybe they will find JH hiding in her closet.
Page 104 on TMZ talks about how there are criminal charges that come out of civil suits. Then usually the criminal charges will be a separate case and be tried first, then the civil case will resume on the guilty parties… e.g. The Duke LaCross boys. (even though that was a case like JB has in CA… or I think similar but with different accusations)
Yes Roxanne, I just popped on a minute ago and looked here, at TMZ and then at ‘T’, looks like a few pages back WV is openly talking about Friday and hoping the worst for Lyn, Bonnie and Butterfly… Damn! She is one sickening person in my opinion…. that is for sure!
Hell! It sure seems that it was solely due to some of her actions in the questioning of the nannies, FS, ect… that she has maybe even started some of the rumors like Mark Speers did! That is what I get from reading about this for so long now. jmho on it!
I am with JMA, very tired today. Worked and then helped my daughter that graduated from college get ready to move; she has to be closer to her law school she will be starting the end of next month which is in a different town. It did not help it was way over 100 here today either! I feel like I got knocked over by the heat!
Goodnight everyone.
LOL I will not mention the other posts I glanced at over there at ‘T’ where a former person from here is royaly kissing WV’s butt and brown nosing up to Red even! GROSS! ;)
Hi Ray!
Was just closing out my windows and read your post.
Yes, WV mentioned that she was going to go after Wood for having her trash? I couldn’t follow that one though, maybe JMA can fill us in tomorrow if she knows what she meant. Sounded like she was talking about suing Lin, what a nut case! He does not have her trash I am sure, she might find it if she can find a big mirror and look into it though! Just a suggestion.
Nite.
#6 JMA wouldn’t be interesting to get a look at those notes and hear the recording that Willy took? They would be an eye opener and hope Lin is taking notes and taking names.
Also she would still have been an employee of Moodys at that time, so she was working for 2 masters and Moodys gave her the boot, can’t say I am surprised..
This whole scam has so many layers and it all seems they had different agenda’s as long as it took out Anna and Howard.
Amazing kidnap plan I think and thank god the baby was not home when these turkeys invaded her home.
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BETH—-I am having a hard time understanding are former member,I have tried so often,to look at this from a different perspective,but FACTS just scream out at me.And one BIG FACT is Anna and Virgie,are like two peas in a pod.I am sorry Howard had to fall in love with someone,who,s family is bent on destroying him.and while trying to cover there own sins,have hurt so many people.So much has been made by Geraldo over that clown video,I do not understand that,Howard was taking pictures of the party,weather Anna took meds on her own,or was given meds by Dr E, who was at the party,sure as hell,Howard did not give her anything,or that question would not have been asked.(is this a mushroom trip)WHY does Howard get the blame?If I remember E-Entertaiment video done on Anna,Anna past boyfriend (speers) stated that Anna was wearing a skimpy bathing suit,and was high near a swimming pool,at some hotel,which upset some mothers who had children there,It was Anna that got herself high and drunk,and Howard was not in Anna,s life yet.WHY did Vergie not question the actions of her then boyfriend?,because Anna had not yet married Marshall,As far as crying going on because Geraldo put the video on the air,I sure as hell do not believe that,Another thing,Howard and Anna were Hollywood people,taking pictures,calling ET ,WAS WHAT THEY DID.Vergie was not nor ever will be Holllywood,there was no need for her to take Splash or Rita Cosby to any thing concerning her daughter,EXCEPT FOT THE GREED MOTHER MAKING MONEY OFF HER DEAD DAUGHTER AND GRANDSON.
IIRC, Speers was not a former boyfriend. Isn’t he the bodyguard that DO hired to “protect” Birkhead?
Roxanne [12] OMG are they ever in spin cycle, especially Wilma.
Ray [13] great question, if she “does not” work for Team Texas then she had no right recording any meetings especially that one. I agree, she talks out of both sides of her mouth and her followers believe every line of BS she feeds them.
Beth [14] you don’t have to mention the name I read it too and it seems they have hit rock bottom.
heath [16] oh hell yeah it would be very interesting reading those “supposed notes” or even listen to that “supposed recording” the question is was Ford Shelley aware the meeting was “supposedly” being recorded and was he asked to and did he sign an affidavit during that meeting. Can’t help but ask due to the screw-up with the Nannies and all!
DiamondGirl [19] yes Speers was hired by Opri.
DIAMOND GIRL—Anna had a boyfriend named (spears)( or speers)before Howard,He was the one that said Anna never put anything away for a rainy day,also with Anna wgen she got a infection in her breast.
#20 JMA good point. Wonder how comfortable they are with willy having so much info and not being employed by oquinns firm.
Don’t think many would trust willy
Goodmorning all.
Beverly, you know I was thinking (even with Anna’s flaws) she had a good heart, she gave to children’s charities, she was smart in ways (maybe not academic all the time) > School, book smart… BUT! Howard met her and saw how TX (Marshall hearings about the Marshall Estate) people in those hearings treated her like trash… I think it started off with him meeting her at a vulnerable time in her life and he fell, he fell so hard that even with other men over the years he could not stop caring for her.
What must hurt as much as Daniel and Anna being gone, is the people like VA and her few supporters who say that Howard enabled her, and was responsible for her addictions… Ridiculous and they know it! Anna was just as headstrong as VA is, except Anna had more class imo. I do not care how many people she was with, ect… I cannot see VA giving one penny to a charity that is how I mean when I compare their actions towards others.
I think the only think needs to be done in front of that sleeping Judge is read a few excerpts out of Rita’s book that trash Anna personally and then show the video and pics of VA at the NY Book signing party praising the book that trashes her own daughter and her daughter’s loved ones with out and out lies.
Then maybe the Judge would wake up and see that VA is the ONLY ONE who has made any public look at her reputation of a greedy self centered person… she has proven it over and over.
Though we could talk about this until we are blue in the face, McC KNOWS VA put herself out there for her own personal gain and made herself a limited public figure in which none of these false accusations of defaming her would apply.
I agree with Howard and Anna knowing the media and how to use it to help get money to survive, ALSO to keep the rumors at bay… Tell their side before liars say otherwise. You are correct, VA has a husband and she has a retirement, she did not try to sell video and pics to help Anna, she did those things to make an extra buck and purposely hurt her own daughter! >> That is how it comes across to me anyway. GOD! That woman ‘s actions are the lowest of low imo!
Beverly, DG is right on [19] Mark Speers was a former police person, who did security and bodyguard work for people. Debra Opri had him watch LB, though I’d have to say; ‘protect? My ass, he just tried to help Opri in her quest to take a huge profit from larry, she wanted a percentage of any pics and such from that baby forever! What a piece of work! I think most of Mark Speers lies were initially to cover and help DO.
Mark Speers (Debra Opri’s bodyguard lol) USED the name Spears, Spear, Speer, among other last names… He never had met Anna.
*** I wonder if you are thinking of the BODY BUILDER??? Forgot his name but he said he could be the father of DL too. ***
JMA > Rock bottom? ;) Maybe they are digging their way to China? In other words way past rock bottom I think! Very Sad!
“I think the only think needs to be done” s/b >>> I think the only thing needs to be done
LOL Just past 8 and I do for sure need some coffee!! :D
JMA and heath,
Yes, I too think that WV shows daily by interacting with HKS HATERS over there at topix that she is not professional and cannot be trusted.
Recorded conversation of Ford Shelley? LOL Well, his grammar has a lot to be desired… BUT! > No way do thieves want their words on tape in case they incriminate their self! FS IS smart enough to know that AND my bet is never said OK!
If she did record him secretly./.. IT IS INADDMISSIBLE! NO WAY NO HOW would a secret recording come into a courtroom, or could you use anything on the tape! The more I have been watching this WV lately… I think she has spent too much time around clark & mccabe… BLUFF, BLUFF, BLUFF is what I get out of her stupid comments. Like I said before, by HER TYPING DAILY WITH THE HKS HATERS ON TOPIX >>>DEMINISHES ANY CREDIBILITY SHE MIGHT OF HAD! IMO
“1555. Susan M. Brown – FS attorney – Atlanta, Georgia
Susan R. Brown – Hollywood, FL attorney
Posted at 10:35AM on Jul 16th 2009 by Howard Supporter”
* THANK YOU, H. Supporter! It had been a bit confusing with TWO Susan Browns!
Shoot! I wonder who that one person is over there at TMZ that comes on and trashes HKS like a school yard bully?
It does look like that writing is from over there at ‘T’. It would be OK if they made sense (had an logical opinion – even if it was different) and didn’t type like a 10 year old! Those kind of words just make people pass it by and think how childish! There sure are some people who honestly have been sucked in by DO, RC, and the TX teams LIES! For sure!!
Well, another very hot day… I am off to run errands before I melt!
BETH—–I know diamondgirl is right.but on the Anna Nicole Story which lasted 3 hours on E-Entertainment,there was a good lookig brown hair boyfriend of Anna,s named (SPEERS) OR (SPEARS)He was a down to earth man,and so good looking.I remember because my first love looked just like him.I also remember discussing it with JMA,last year.He spoke of Anna,looking at the clouds,and thinking something sinsiter.also discussed the hotel,and Anna upsetting the mother who had children because of her actions.I was hoping JMA would remember.
Beverly [22 & 28] Anna had a boyfriend named “Clay Spires” who took care of her during that breast implant infection. I tried to find the video with him telling about those days and how his apartment was the party spot.
Any Who while trying to find that video I came across this one from the “Biography Channel” and in this video, Anna’s own cousin [Melinda Hudson] says she came to live with them when she was around 14 years old. I’d say that contradicts the line of Bullshit Missy B’s feed the groupies considering that info came from a blood relative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKdEu7Gewso
Beth [26] you make many good points I agree there is no way Ford Shelley would have agreed to have himself admitting to stealing Anna’s things from the Horizons on tape. If WV taped, the conversations during that meeting without all parties consent then most likely, it is Inadmissible.
Bev~~ Clay Spires is also the one who said he was thinking of charging rent for the back bedroom that was used for sex and how they all had “Animal” names. Of course when Missy [she claimed to be Anna’s BFF back then] was asked what her animal name was back then she refused to answer
http://www.hcdistrictclerk.com/eDocs/Public/ViewFilePage.aspx?ViewAsType=PDF&TodaysDate=7/16/2009&PublicImageNbr=42766217&CourtID=280
WAY TO GO BUTTERFLY!
BECAUSE this sleeping Judge has not ‘timely’ heard your valid motions… That is the Court’s FAULT!
* I wouldn’t step foot in that UNJUST Courtroom either UNTIL some HIGHER AUTHORITY (besides listening only the plaintiff’s crooked attorneys }jmo along with plenty of other people’s opinions! Probably ALL of their past clients feel the same way… ESPECIALLY the Breast Implant clients!)
A very smart move, >> IF A PARTY IS BEING UNFAIRLY ‘NOT HEARD’ THEN APPEAL IT!
* Do not go there and let them unjustly put you in jail too!
I hope when all of this crookedness comes out Lyn will SUE that County, that Court, that Judge, that law firm who is unjustly LYING about EVERYTHING trying to get people’s personal information!
> There is and was MORE OF A CONSPIRACY with the VA bloggers to defame HKS, LB and their families!
*** HOW ABOUT all of the topix crowd who hates HKS, WHAT if HE starts a conspiracy of defamation case against them? In a Court that ONLY HEARD HIS SIDE? ONLY HAD HEARINGS ON HIS MOTIONS ALONE? ONLY TOOK HIS WORD? NEVER, NEVER, ASKED FOR PROOF OF HARM TO THAT HORRID WOMAN! Jmho (again based on her own actions of hate and greed against her daughter, her estranged daughter)
Damn! I bet WV and her new best bud will be so unhappy that Butterfly and most likely Bonnie too will NOT STEP FOOT IN AN UNJUST COURTROOM!
GOOD FOR THEM!
GOOD FOR THEM!
ALL MOTIONS SHOULD BE STOPPED UNTIL THE OTHER JUDGES CAN SEE WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THAT COURT!
JUSTICE MY ASS! (hope that was OK to borrow, JMA) > just this one time… ;)
BETH -DIAMONDGIRL–JMA— jma is correct Iaplogize to all,It is so strange I needed to see the video.and there it was,it is now playing on E-Entertainment it is Clay Spires.THANK YOU ALL.
No problem Beverly dear, I actually had not seen that, so I was not quite sure what you were thinking about!
You do not have to apologize! I am glad JMA solved the mystery!
LOL I got that link from the hang out, but I thought I’d pop in on T to see what they were saying about it…
Someone else said good butterfly, or maybe it was go butterfly… shoot, I closed the page, anyway another said yea, go ahead and give bad advice like Beth did Lyn…
* NOTE to the dumbasses! We blog our OPINIONS of justice, our thoughts on different matters… These Defendants are NOT GOING TO LIVE THEIR LIVES ON OUR OPINIONS! THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE THEIR PERSONAL DECISIONS ON WHAT WE OR ANYONE ELSE SAYS!
I stand by what I said, I would not step foot in anY unjust Courtroom, I would appeal it and fight it every step of the way until the letter of the law was followed! (the law applies to BOTH sides! This Court, this Judge seems to only be acknowledging the plaintiff! Wonder why that i$? Slipped, (is) ;)
Pretty sad when that is the only thing they can put us down for … almost comical isn’t it?
Like each and everyone of them haven’t typed before; ‘if it was me’ or I would or wouldn’t have reacted that way… I would have done this… or that.
Grow Up people over there! Just plain ignorant I think!
Mary says: “It really annoys me but they seem to put a lot of stock in Beth’s advise and opinions. She gets so much wrong and her latest rants prove my point.”
OMG! SEE? How very, very funny!
If I ‘rant’ what the hell can we call her posts? Simple questions?
emphasis on the word ’simple’!
That’s it, no more for me over there… It seems like it brings you down to their level!
I should probably remove the few words that start w/ emphasis — but I will not. Not today anyway.
eth 36 Hi Beth….why do i keep thinking of maybe a variation of Stockholm Syndrome ? )
Beth [32] anytime ;-) I agree very smart move on Butterfly’s part though the cesspool rats seem to disagree but hell what do they know anyway
Beverly [33] did you find it on E today cause I was looking for it for a while but could not find it. I’ll have to check it out again for old time sake.
Beth [36] looks like a little jealously [well may be a lot] if you ask me.
raven [37] I agree ;-)
Oh Beth, it does my heart good to see Mary defending Wilma. Think about it. ;)
DG [39] makes you feel warm and fuzzy all over doesn’t it
Beth
Why is she so worried about you and what you say anyway? I guess she is hanging on every word that comes out of silver slippers mouth. It’s a shame when anyone lets another person sway their thinking when the evidence has been the same the whole time. I never saw you “give advice” to anyone and I never saw where Lyndal “took your advice.” Lyndal couldn’t turn her computer over because it’s been stolen. I wonder if Ball has had a chance to download anything and see that Lyndal didn’t destroy any evidence. It has never been about her destroying evidence.
Sure does JMA. Wilma will now see how it feels when someone keeps talking on her behalf and meanwhile, she doesn’t know jackchit.
Ok I have to let you guys get a giggle out of this. Vice is now stating that she wants to be compensated for anguish. Isn’t that a laugh.
How about Rose and Ken being compensated for anguish, I think that is more the question
OH! AJM that is funny! There is NO WAY she can prove any anguish IMO.
If she attempts to try and sue anyone in that saga… lawyers included, all they have to do is show the anguish she has caused everyone.
The Judge would have her apologizing to whoever she named as Defendant for even thinking of starting a stupid suit like that!
* UNLESS she has it on good authority that T. Lindsay will be presiding? ;)
Well said ladies!
LOL on DG’s “talking on her behalf” (or) ;) > ‘talking to everyone over there [explaining] for you…
BET Miss Rose is relieved to not have to deal with that any longer. Of course just a guess on my part!
“silver slippers” OMG! I had tears streaming down my face when I read that! Very astute of you Roxanne!
You are correct about it never was about destroying ‘alleged’ evidence!
* THAT IS WHY IT WAS STUPID FOR mccass TO ASK FOR JAIL TIME IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND EVEN STUPIDER OF THE JUDGE TO LET THAT INJUSTICE HAPPEN! When after the computer was stolen along with the other things… they could have easily subpoenaed the servers for the emails they were looking for! IMO There is NO WAY TO SPIN THAT DIFFERENT.
** I believe they are upset that they will not get to say “Ha Ha” or spend days rejoicing that Butterfly and Bonnie were attacked in a UNFAIR Courtroom.
raven,
Wow, I see exactly what you are saying. Maybe a variation to the point of not exactly being the hostage that shows the devotion or loyalty to the abductor, but ‘latching on’ to a person (to be loyal to) so you can be part of the ‘group’?
OMG! It is the people that are latched onto that are the hostages?
Maybe I am reading more into that statement that you meant… as my mind just went wild for a moment!
Had to say to myself; OK, slow down… ;) :D
AJM [43] I read that, she is starting to act just like her groupies.
Beth [44] I agree but IMO she is blowing smoke.
GOTTA LOVE THESE INTELLIGENT REMARKS!
HOPE IT IS OK TO POST SO MANY AT ONCE! (pgs. 105 & 106)
* WANTED TO MAKE SURE BUTTERFLY SAW THEM…
QUOTE:
1567. Good for you Teresa! Joining the appeal as an interested party and on behalf of your own issues in that case which is the same issue as HKS is a smart thing to do. Never abandon all avenues when dealing with a rotten judge like that one and a scehming fanatic like the plaintiff’s attorney.
You go girl!
Posted at 5:12PM on Jul 16th 2009 by Howard Supporter
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Yes, very bold and on point, butterfly!
Posted at 5:10PM on Jul 16th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean
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This Notice of Appeal and request for emergency relief puts a temporary hold on the proceedings of the 280th against TS. Same could happen with LB if he is compelled to produce ‘everything’ based on Judge Lindsay’s earlier Motions to Compel based on ‘no known TX law’ (quoted from HKS’s Appeal to the 1st Court of Appeals).
Posted at 5:44PM on Jul 16th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean
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1576. I feel there will be ample time to drag the truth out of FS/G. Ben’s rogue Attorney SB prior to the pending Preliminary hearing in LA and also before there is further damage wrought in Harris County.
Posted at 6:01PM on Jul 16th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean
That judge in Harris County has pushed her luck as far as she can; she’s gotten away with every rotten deed she could and knows it. This time she and her favorite attorney are lost in their own mess created by the operatives in the scheme to get everybody/somebody. They are higheer than kites, drunk with their own false sense of power. Kind of cool to watch it go down, including the nasty trolls who think they can control every blog and are not content with Topix.
Posted at 6:16PM on Jul 16th 2009 by Howard Supporter
END QUOTE. ( and thank you to > Howard Supporter and OSITO )
Beth [46] That’s not a variation of Stockholm Syndrome. It has various names….’brown noser’, a$$-kisser, wannabe, etc…I think you probably get my point.
I think each states laws about recording someone are different some only need one persons consent others need both.I would think that something left on voice mail etc would be different as everyone,both parties know it is being recorded and could be used.I know that I was getting harassing phone calls and I kept them all along with the number that was being used to call and the police went and talked to this person and since he used a work phone he almost lost his job over it.So at least the police will listen
Seems Teresa Stephens is doing things right and getting the word out and into different courts ,good going Butterfly
I meant to ask if anyone had been listening to the judge Sotomayor hearings where people are so worried about following the letter of the law and not being influenced by other things.It sure made me think about this case and it is a republican judge not following the letter of the law and it seems she is showing sympathy,a whole lot towards the plaintiff in this case a big no no JMHO
July 15, 2009 Teresa Stephens Notice of Appeal of Order for Motion to Compel to Judge Lindsay in relations to the Court Order expanding the duties of the Special Master and for a Show Cause Hearing as to why Stephens should not be found in contempt of Court.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2216
July 15, 2009 Teresa Stephens notice to the Appeals court of Assignment of Related Case of Howard K. Stern presently in the Appellate Court out of Judge Lindsay’s 280th Harris County District Court.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2217
July 16, 2009 Larry Birkhead’s Amended Response to Virgie Arthur Request to Compel Production and to extend the Special Master’s authority on the July 17th 280th Harris County District Court for 1:30 PM.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2218
Beth [48] I noticed that Butterfly’s filing is very well written and I know it says she is “pro se” but I do wonder if she has someone with legal knowledge/experience guiding her in what looks to be in the right direction.
In reading Butterfly’s Notice of Appeals is she saying, she filed her notice within the time allowed by the courts, but for some reason her notice was never heard, am I reading that right. If this is correct, wonder why she never received a response from the court, ah duh do I really need to ask? IMO, Butterfly’s filing clearly shows that Team Texas is trying to take advantage of the Defendants who do not have legal representations because if you notice in Butterfly’s said she requested the same relief as Howard, his was granted but she never receives a response in reference to hers
beth 46 lol You understood very well.
JMA
You are reading that correctly. Theresa has file all kinds of Motions and things and NONE of it has ever been heard by Lindsay yet. She has said in several filings that her filings have been ignored. I know what people say about Theresa but she has a legal right to have her stuff looked at seriously for consideration and she has a legal right for it to be done in a TIMELY manner. To date both of those basic rights have been denied. Theresa has some really good filings with legit questions and statements in them.
Right on Roxanne it does seem she was ignoredand IMO it is so they can try and jail her also.Larrys Attorney seems to know what she is doing all the pro se people need to do is put their name in place of larrys and get rid of what they do not need, It sure looks like Arthur is going after Howards Parents why would they go on a fishing expedition to look for all those e-mails to LB .Maybe because they caan’t bring in Howards parents and are trying???
I think it is because they can’t prove their case because what has been alleged NEVER happened so they are fishing for “proof.” I bet HKS and LB did talk about how to “counter” the crap VA and gang were spewing but who wouldn’t. The information that was used was written and published by QV. A lot of people submitted that article to TMZ. So there is no telling who was the one to “get thru.”
http://www.hcdistrictclerk.com/eDocs/Public/CaseDetails.aspx?CaseNbr=200824181&CDI=7
Court Assignment Assigned to 1st Court of Appeals 7/15/2009 $ 0.00
Notice of Appeal Has Been Filed Accellerated Appeal 7/15/2009 $ 0.00
This above was listed in the “APPEALS” tab on the State case’s site.
We will have to wait and see about Bonnie, it is too bad that she could not have the same motions as TS has — hand delivered tomorrow to the Clerk and then one to the Judge directly at the time of Court!
* It shouldn’t matter as to the ‘last minute’ didn’t TL say she hasn’t read the file? Doesn’t TL only do what McCabe says; ‘is the right course to take’? ;)
(I know it would not be accepted or proper proceedure by law, but nothing else in this case is either; so why should it matter?)
This whole case needs to go to FEDERAL COURT to be heard and Judged by the Law! To be looked over by a unbiased Judge!
VA’s lawyer’s have spent less than 1,000 in filing fees on this, can you imagine all the money spent by the Defendants? ref. > link above in this post.
To protect themselves from FALSE ALLEGATIONS? Every Defendant should get their fees paid and also paid for their time and anguish for this merit less lawsuit!
I get so mad at this injustice!
WAY OFF TOPIC : but Ms N. Grace made my blood boil in regards to the Jackson story! Abused vs disaplined “40 YEARS AGO” when schools still had the strap!
(At least we did in Canada) Was this women even born, or was she really so disconnected(and still) with the REAL world, parents DO disaplin children and if they did not our society would have been like it is NOW, disrepectful children, drugs, video games, murders, dead parents, dead children, children need guidelines and if they step over them too many times lay the smack down! And so be it if the WOOD SHED(spank) is invovled. Just one opinion who has had the belt and the school strap, but only ONCE! JMO
#51..I’ve watched bits and pieces of the hearing, and I thought the same thing. How upholding the law and laws of the land, are held in reverance and support of the Constitution. Go figure, I haven’t felt that way from this case in Texas and it’s not that I’m knowledgeable about law/s but some of it, is basic commen sense.
Another thought was after hearing of parents in Florida, that were killed, and how sad that is, and the lengths that the police and such are going to to be able to convict those responsible. The bombings today in Indonesia and listening to the exchange of the FBI elite already trying to understand the situation..how did D. Clark give up a career like that to help defend a mom/grandmom?? There must be more challenging cases that haven’t made it to the media that maybe their working on. Maybe it was burnout, who knows, but with the worries in the world today, to focus on ‘who did grandma wrong’ seems pretty out there.
My last thought..is Shelley looking at those sunglasses on the table, remembering Anna or is he looking at his? notes/script??
Hang it there butterfly!
… and neither the Court nor Larry Birkhead’s counsel should be compelled to dignify the purported requests with responses, much less rewrite them, until some sign of intelligence and responsibility is evident in the requests.
Love it!
Good morning all—-JMA—I watched the Anna Nicole Story on E-Entertainment,and her past boyfriend mention so many times about how bad off Anna,s drug problem was,BUT he went on with his life,not any true concern,where was Vergie? NO MENTION,Where was FS GBT concern for Anna?,I did my daily reading over at T and Mary is right,I DO NOT wish any blogger harm or want to be nasty to anyone,but,who I see,as trying hard to harm others,I do not know how anyone can read what is written on T without getting sick,day after day such filth and hate toward one another.I feel the Michael Jackon case will bring down McCabe and Vergie,the public still loved Michael,and are not taking to kindly to Joe,s abuse,I wonder how a lot of people feel(after the fact) making fun of Michael,now seeing the medical problems and personal problems he had,to bad it is to late to care. Of all the Doctors Michael had,I DO NOT SEE ONE PHYSIOGIST,Anna was being (helped) so Howard thought by Dr E.
Roxanne [55] this is what I mean when saying those without legal representation are being taken advantage of. Sorry IMO Team Texas/McCabe is behind this!! They/He feels those without council are just going to lie down, roll over and take his shit but it looks to me he is being proven wrong ;-)
kate [59] that is one annoying woman. I cannot believe she is using La Toya’s crap as her focus point now, you know how she is saying money and jewels were stolen from Michael the day he died. She also continues to bring up needle marks on Michael’s neck of course in her great sensationalizing way, which by the way she was told those needle marks could have been made by EMT’s.
#20 JMA and if she does not work for the folks at the Texas law firm then can’t FS and GBT say, HEY!!! We were never their clients let’s hear the tape publicly?
All @ 1:30 TX time today:
>Law Day Docket 280 MOTION FOR ORAL HEARING
>Law Day Docket 280 Motion to Compel Production
>Law Day Docket 280 MCCABE, NEIL C. MOTION FOR CONTEMPT
>Law Day Docket 280 MEYER, M. MICHAEL Sanctions (TRCP 215)
Does anyone remember which ‘Sanctions’ that is concerning? Thanks.
There was a former member here that the first 2 letters are ti****,
This was just posted on T, where they seemed to be involved last night with a conversation that was not one of our site owners! (Most likely they knew that though)
Q. Was that really K**? A. “Someone last night said it was Sun.”
I honestly DO NOT KNOW HOW they believed it was someone from here! Bet is – they didn’t.
If you read the language you could tell it was not, and the information given had been posted before! Therefore, was it played along with, just to be able to type mean things in reply?
Well, whether it be this Sun, Red or whoever… they must keep files and notes just to mess with people… HOW F-ing crazy is that? How F-ing crazy is it to: ANSWER THAT GARBAGE BACK [like it was the person from here]!
Sorry to vent, but they went on for pages it looked like when I glanced at it this morning. Just get so tired of the lies, thats for sure!
>1596. “I felt back when HKS/Wood were subpoenaing them that BKD had been set-up like so many people/organizations as just another fall guy for O’Q/McCabe. McCabe and SB had even drawn up a confidential agreement to share information that could have been relied upon by BKD. The CA DOJ may also have thought until recently that the sharing agreement gave them cover too. I expect the Court to take a particular interest in what SB has been up to because she is a lawyer, not just another person in a civil lawsuit.
I’ve noticed also how the media is referencing the Doctors only in the ANS case when speaking of the MJ case. When you see a legitimate ‘death investigation’ unfold day by day it’s hard even for the media to continue to hold much faith in JB’s ‘gossip investigation’. LAPD Chief Bratton was one of the first I recall to make it clear to reporters that JB was only assisting his people, definitely not the other way around.
JB today claims he has a mighty database that provides real time information on all Doctors and prescriptions, yet just 4 months ago he was stumbling and bumbling around talking about the 2 years it took to sort out the details of the ANS story; preposterous on the face of it.
Jul 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
>1599. “As far as Bonnie, well, what can you say. I don’t know why she didn’t file a cross-complaint in CA when McCabe staged his ‘reverse Marshall’. Heavens knows the ‘blueprint’ is out there. And who talked her in to allowing a default in TX? It’s all a matter of timing – don’t let yourself be beaten down by the evil-doers when it’s just a matter of time before the ‘bloggers’ case is booted and the actually deserving lawyers are sanctioned. Jul 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
>1602. “If Judge Lindsay takes action against a defendant who has dropped active contesting of her case, and whom she has no jurisdiction over, within a lawsuit which itself hasn’t progressed meaningfully largely due to the Judge’s own inaction on important matters, then such action is on the face of it appealable. Judge Lindsay is already on thin ground after her unconscionable actions against LH. Bonnie has nothing to worry about – the entire matter should be ‘passed’. Jul 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
>1604. “I’m also wondering why FS/G. Ben are not charged along with HKS/K/E.” (?)
“FS has stated in interviews that he forced medications on ANS on a strict 24/7 schedule while she was living with him and his clan and HKS was not present. He even videotaped the left-over meds at his home after ANS left. G. Ben is reported to have picked up a prescription for Dilaudid, written in his name, for ANS, in The Bahamas. Jul 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
Won’t be back until a few hours after the hearings today, my thoughts are with the people who are being conspired against. > All of the Defendants!
Have a good day, everyone.
So anyone have the answer to who the sanctions are for?
Beth [58] Didn’t Judge Rosenthal (sp?) say that if anymore bloggers were brought into this case, it would bump it up to a Federal Civil Rights case?
The sanctions for today are against Bonnie. Sanctions are to strike all her pleadings and not to hear any of them and to grant the court jurisdiction.
Thanks, Ken. I see that now. McC is also asking for a default judgment.
Rose [65] my exact thought.
Bewildered [60] We (rose and a few of us) have been wondering wth those things were and sunglasses did not pop into mind. Thanks for clearing that lil mystery up.
as for him looking at his notes or thinking of Anna…..that look on his face, both hands in his lap (hidden by the table) and him looking down…could be a few things he maybe doing or thinking about…….Twittering, playing games on his cell phone or….. :|
I just wanted to say “hootie-hoot” to y’all. Looks like I’m missing a lot of good stuff …I am up to my skivies researching my own legal concerns…
Here’s something I thought interesting… off topic, but interesting… :lol
Michael Jackson’s wife sues over custody reports
http://www.reuters.com/article/mediaNews/idUSN1644782620090717
Wife?????
You know it amazes me… how many hours are in a day? Do those n*** think Ken or I have ANY time to sit and post at T??? Our old moderator over there knows the answer is NO… Hello earth to $$**** we run a site with a skeleton crew now because no one else wants to even be remotely connected in a way to be brought into this suit… we have always asked that posts blasting Ken and me from T be sent to us for a file and we don’t even ask for that now… we also have something called real lives and sadly a LOT of discovery deadlines behind the scenes… now let’s see a show of hands how many of y’all really think Ken… (cough cough on that one as he got the full weight of the blog starting around May 1) or for that fact me have time to post anywhere else? That is one reason I am always so grateful with insightful posts from TMZ are shared here for everyone to read…
If I was Bonnie Stern, I would default in Texas before coming into anything that might mean jurisdiction and wait until the right time to fight this if and when it needs to be fought in California…. however 0 of 0 in a default judgment equal what compare to billable attorney fees that a bankrupt defendant can not afford, that of course is MHO and is not based on ANY facts…
I think Birkhead’s lawyers are laying the groundwork especially after reading the filings yesterday and seeing the other lawyer being brought in from the same firm that Birkhead when he loses today and my money is on that happening any takers??? Any how when he loses today I see him filing an emergency appeal maybe with 3 someone will sit up and take notice???
Beth [76] I just finished reading over there and as usual it was the same old bullshit. Hell, their focus was mostly on Lucky but she handles it/them in a dignified way when she came back. That’s what I love about Lucky, they cannot break her and it pisses them off to no end.
What really cracks me up is the mountains those lunatics make out of molehills.
Whoever the poster “Blood Red” was I agree with them, RedDouche is going to mess with the wrong person [which she may have already] and it is defiantly going to back fire on her. She along with WV think they are untouchable but I have a feeling that bubble of theirs is going to burst and it won’t be pretty.
In reference to “they must keep files and notes just to mess with people” I seriously think they do and then when a former member from here goes there with a hair up their ass, the Biddies’ pull out that old shit in order to stir the pot. In addition, they are the first to bitch about being on topic. It does not take a professional physiatrist to see that many over there have some serious mental issues.
For the record, if I were to have issues with anyone from a site I was a member of and choose to leave, I be damn if I would go running to a site and kiss ass with the people who have dug dirt, made fun, ridiculed, spread lies, etc. about me. Sorry in my opinion that shows they are either desperate for attention or have no self-respect.
Rose [77] I must agree due to anyone who is not being represented by Team Texas seems to come out on the losing end whenever they appear in front of this Judge.
July 16, 2009 Teresa Stephens filing for Emergency Relief from Appeals court in her Writ of Mandamus filing with the same court as a “Realtor” in the Arthur vs. Howard K. Stern, TMZ et. al.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2219
75. Or looking for a lawyer that doesn’t do things on her own and make deals without consulting her client? (if you believe FS)
Sorry but what I get out of the picture attached to this article is, WTF did I get my lying dumb ass involved in now!
The one thing I have always noticed about Ford Shelley during his many interviews is, he never looks anyone in the eye when speaking and that is always a sure sign of someone who is lying.
Something off topic, sorta. I watched the interview that was aired on Extra the other night and was telling my husband that I did not believe Debbie Rowe would write let alone give this woman permission to read any e-mail exchange she may have had with her concerning the two children. We all have seen recently just how easily fake e-mails can be made.
Debbie Rowe sues woman over TV interview
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, AP
2 hours ago
LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson’s ex-wife Deborah Rowe is striking back at a woman who claimed in a TV interview that Rowe told her she didn’t want custody of the pop star’s children.
Rowe filed a defamation and invasion-of-privacy lawsuit against Rebecca White of Florida. The lawsuit, filed in Los Angeles late Thursday, seeks unspecified damages, but specifically targets any money that White may have been paid by TV show “Extra” for an interview that aired earlier this week.
An e-mail sent to a publicist for “Extra” seeking comment wasn’t immediately returned. White couldn’t immediately be reached for comment Friday.
Rowe’s lawsuit states she hasn’t communicated with White since Jackson’s death last month.
In the interview, White claimed Rowe had emphatically stated in an e-mail exchange that she didn’t want custody of Jackson’s three children. Rowe had two children while married to the singer.
This is for Lucky,
I call them as I see them and from my view those lunatics prove repeatedly how jealous they are of you with their continuous make Topix about Lucky. In my gut, I feel those who continue to wreak havoc on others will eventually get what they deserve; payback is and can be a bitch especially when done properly. These morons take a name/moniker and start digging in hopes to find that persons true identity or something incriminating about them but when unsuccessful they make the shit up. IMO, that Red Dog and her cohorts, [whether new or old] barked up the wrong tree when they chose you as a target.
My advice to you is, continue full force and stop at nothing but if I know you like I think I do, you don’t need that advice at all ;-)
July 17, 2009 Teresa Stephens Motion to Reschedule hearing set today on Contempt on Stephens by Arthur in the 280th Harris County District Court with Exhibits.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2220
Boy Teresa puts it all out there doen’t she?Hope eyes are watching
JMA……..oh how I do miss your spunk. Your right, they picked the wrong strong woman to mess with. I dont lay down like a dog, like some do, when intimidated or their fear factor put in place. Your right again, I have no plans of stopping until the case does, they do, or a win in the courtroom for me. Red might have just bit off more than any dog can chew by making false police reports regarding me. But then again, hey, she had dog maryst at her side helping her. The one they used to pick apart. Too scared to stand up against the evil doers and cult like bullies on a blog. Now the new dog will let vice pick her fleas out. Gotta love details when they are that stupid. Take care girl and keep on rockin on as you do. I love to read your thoughts and your posts. Always have.
I really enjoy reading Stephens’ filings. She is always direct and to the point, without being self-serving. Reminds of a type of narrative writing that uses a “stream of consciousness” Eventhough it is directed at the court, it is like one is just listening to her thought processes. Got to love it. I wish her well.
July 17, 2009 Bonnie Stern Texas State District Court found it had personal jurisdiction over Bonnie Stern because Stern did not show up for hearing and did not have counsel present, Texas therefore because of destruction of evidence over rules Objection to personal jurisdiction and grants personal jurisdiction to Texas.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2221
Lucky ~~ I miss you too :-( we had so much fun especially with our video sharing and talks of meeting up for a big old Party wearing cowgirl boots and hats, hope you did not forget I like Corona and no skimping on the lime
Yeah just finished reading and loved how they tried to trip you up claiming you said things you never said. I saw the post you wrote to whomever it was e-mailing you; you gave them a swift warning but never said who the person was. Yeah gotta love the threat from Red Dog claiming she’s filing a police report on you
How will she fill out the report, will it start with Lucky from Topix said…whatever she puts as you said she will be filing a false one, period.
Not quite understanding this newfound friendship crap but sitting back and observing, it is becoming very clear to me how some info concerning me got to others. No worries though they can have it cause it will never be of any use to them.
See this is why I prefer to only read there…due to no point in interacting with lunatics it only makes them crazier.
July 17, 2009 Texas 280th District Court of Harris County granted a default judgment against Bonnie Stern. The Court found it had jurisdiction over Bonnie and did strike all of Bonnie Stern’s pleadings. Court further “Renders Judgment to Virgie Arthur and against Bonnie Stern. Court found Bonnie Stern did not show up for hearing and did not have counsel present for hearing, as Sanctions the Court taxed the charges of Craig Ball against Bonnie Stern (by my calculations that is about $16k-17k), Court found that Bonnie Stern did destroy evidence but Court entered a Default judgment for liability only. No mention of a finding of defamation or a conspiracy to defame against Bonnie Stern
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2221
I’m not sure I get why the allegations of discovery abuse results in jurisdiction. Guess I need to go look into it, seeing as the Judge gave no explaination.
trina [92] I was thinking the same thing.
Rose [91] so Bonnie was sanctioned but it was to pay Ball. I’m not getting how Bonnie being a no show gives Texas jurisdiction over her. Another thing, as you said no mention of finding defamation or conspiracy on Bonnie’s part IMO because there was none to be found so there for Texas should not be able to claim jurisdiction on her.
I’ve never heard of such bullshit and no offense to those who do, but no one could pay me to live in the state of Texas.
Texas had to have jurisdiction before they could claim default.
Well, the Plaintiff’s attorney is really pushing the “conspiracy” to defame when in actuality the only thing that matters is whether, or not, the Plaintiff was defamed. A conspiracy to defame cannot stand alone. This is craziness. And a blatant attempt to get HKS’ and LB’s computers. Geez, they had ANS’ already for over a year. No telling what they found. Can you imagine? I really can’t. Which is why, in the beginning, I did understand Rose’s willingness to work with McC and keep her computer at home. But these lawyers are not going to be satisfied until everyone that they perceive as being in their way is destroyed. Sound familiar??
WELL STATED TRINA. [95]
I imagine they did not find too much at all on Anna’s computers. That is why they are still working so hard.
I agree that the main thing that TX wants is something/anything on Howard. They were hoping to get it from his sister, an email about ‘anything’ they could try and make a big stink about… IMO
After all how dare HKS and Lin take on O’Quinn in FL! (I assume the losses in FL, Bahamas, then to add insult to injury having O’Q settle in FL…)
They seem to be out for blood! I cannot wait until someone STOPS them and gets theirs!
Rose, I have no idea where you got that number (amount) for Ball (who I do think is in O’Q’s pocket) that B. Stern will get charged…
* I hope that it is absorbed by the Bankruptcy Court later on. Actually by my calculations, of the copying of the hard drives, the looking for God knows what and responding to Bly’s report… I cannot see that being all that many hours. He would not be allowed to charge more than the standard fee.
My guess would have been a couple of thousand at the most… but only a guess with figuring the hours x’s no more than 300 per hour, is how I came to that assumption. Any more would be like the guardian at litem for DL charging outrageous amount for little done.
ALSO > Some DEFENDANT in this stupid case needs to add QV and Havana for their lies… and shove this damn case in a Federal Court to be dismissed.
* I hope that later LB and HKS team up and sue the shit out of McC, DC, & WV and then the ESTATE of ANS NEEDS to sue her ESTRANGED DERANGED MOTHER! JMHO on that horrid woman!
Back to TX wanting any type of correspondence w/ HKS, LB isn’t going to budge, either will HKS…
So, find them in default judgment too – then what do you have?
* * AN APPEAL > an appeal at ALL of the Orders made on; “because I said so” from the SEEMINGLY BIASED JUDGE… the case will be tossed on its face from any appellate court that follows the law.
Quote:
1642. “TS is on appeal. A default on a case going nowhere is meaningless. LB will be next on appeal. on Jul 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
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“I was thinking the same thing about Larry, he’ll go to appeal.
They are losing their minds here about the TS filing to the 280th court–they have ZERO to say about her three filings (including the one today) for Emergency Relief in the First Court of Appeals. Imagine that–they are going crazy over this because if they had read the latest filing they would understand what she was trying to accomplish–it’s right in her Appellate doc….the explanation.
I noticed she is calling herself the ‘relator’ which makes this a separate case about other orders (Motion for Contempt) and how her own motions were deliberately scheduled for the same day as her contempt motion—and a real party in interest for the Motion to Compel– by Howard Supporter”
LOL I agree about them losing their minds… they talk about other people’s mental well being, HELL! They need to sober up and read what they write! They sound like they lost their marbles long ago I think!
That fact that H. Supporter stated is CORRECT!
That would be grounds for APPEAL! > deliberately having TS’s many motions filed set for the same day as the contempt!
Scare tactics for her to submit to the plaintiff’s lawyer’s lunacy! The Judge playing along with it should get that nut off the bench I would think!
Extremely BLATANT ABUSES from officers of the Court! >> Assholes! >>>IMO ;)
“I see McCabe wanted an order ‘disposing of all claims’ against Bonnie. He didn’t get it – liability only. What happened to Bonnie today in no way whatsoever advances McCabe’s fantasy about a conspiracy led by Bonnie and orchestrated by HKS. Posted at 11:06PM on Jul 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
What OSITO says is correct, it is clear that McC’s office typed that up and the Judge did not ‘dare’ go that far… as to “disposing of all claims”
LOL True, the case has not advanced!
I did look over at T, read a post from M***, about winning today… I gagged w/ disgust! Sick or not that lady needs to stay out of people’s affairs!
Lucky is gonna get her for messing in Lucky’s business!
LOL I’d like to know what the hell they won? A default judgement on a case that will belost on appeals? Well, Congrats you three or four people! LOL
“1649. 1643. As far as Bonnie–IF the court granted the stay until late 2010 (as WV claims) then the case will first be tried in Texas (if it gets that far) and the bankruptcy court will wait until then. That doesn’t make any sense. Why does McCabe want a stay in CA? Why not just go ahead with the case there?
Posted at 10:36PM on Jul 17th 2009 by Howard Supporter
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McCabe would lose in a real Court. He couldn’t even come close to winning with the ‘Mommie Dearest’ case.
Bonnie could simply ask the Bankruptcy Court to request the depos and materials from the Houston Federal Court of the ‘Mommie Dearest’ case and there you go – VA is a limited public figure, she has no proof of any of her allegations for the entire ‘Mommie Dearest’ case (which is a large part of the ‘bloggers’ case) and the remainder of the ‘bloggers’ case (step-brother story) is not defamatory (according to McCabe during a hearing). Case closed.
Malice, when you are dealing with a limited public figure is very difficult to prove – and VA was never a ‘threat’ at any time to any one, nor did she ever have standing in most of her vexatious litigation that she claims was ‘interfered with’ by Bonnie (and others).” Jul 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean
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“Bonnie is ‘liable’ for whatever is proven at trial. She’s not liable at this time for anything specifically.” Jul 17th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
“Bonnie is ‘liable’ for whatever is proven at trial. She’s not liable at this time for anything specifically.”
Well, It was very hot today… and I am beat!
Take care… Do not worry too much >> NOTHING will ever be proven (because there was no conspiracy to defame)
No One can prove something that was never there!
This case will not ever go to trial, as then the plaintiff would have to prove what she lost… > WHICH WAS NOTHING!
Oh, MISS BONNIE STERN: This is a great IDEA! quote: (from swims)
“Bonnie could simply ask the Bankruptcy Court to request the depos and materials from the Houston Federal Court of the ‘Mommie Dearest’ case and there you go – VA is a limited public figure, she has no proof of any of her allegations for the entire ‘Mommie Dearest’ case (which is a large part of the ‘bloggers’ case) and the remainder of the ‘bloggers’ case (step-brother story) is not defamatory (according to McCabe during a hearing). Case closed.”
*Hope that it is suggested to your Bankruptcy lawyer for consideration!
Nite everyone!
POST #100!
Hope to see everyone in chat Sunday evening!
“Mary wrote:
She is also a very sore loser and a poor sport. She ought to be congratulating The VA team. It is a major win.”
SusieQ wrote: (reply)
“No Mary it’s not a major win and this is not a game. There are no poor sports just honest people who are sick of the injustice that goes on in Harris County, Texas. No one lost today, TS has filed an appeal, LB will and Bonnie got just what she wanted, her “case” will go to CA. And people who so strongly disagree with everything Vergie has done would be the last to congratulate her on continuing to push this bogus case.”
* GREAT REPLY!
Beth [96] Quoting this from your post “Rose, I have no idea where you got that number (amount) for Ball (who I do think is in O’Q’s pocket) that B. Stern will get charged…” There are a few things that as a defendant you get to see behind the scenes that cant be shared (such as how many hours worked, rate per hour, etc).
Beth, pull the Jan 27th court order appointing Gregg Ball, his fee agreement is attached, he charges $500/hour. Plus materials (cd’s etc) and he also charges for answering emails. Go figure.
got ya Ken he sounds more like an attorney than what he is. Hope BS has her bankruptcy go thru and Ball is included in that.Then he can go after McShame and his firm for payment.I would bet that was this judges and McShames idea all along to make everyone pay it themselves another way to bankrupt people and try to get them to fall in line.
Ya know most of it is just the idea of Ball and how he digs thru everything not just what he was told to look for. I know I have my banking and credit card info and would not trust ball or anyone to go thru my harddrive and keep a copy.They could do anything with it. Look what FS did??
I would love to know if the state of Texas is poor,or what? All these court hours,court doc,Lorie Drew got off with a slap on the hand,and there was a dead girl,who I believe she is responsible for,and good old Judge Lindsay thinks she will be the one who helps McCabe get millions of dollare for Vergie,that is a laugh.McCabe with his client,should go find a sand box to play in.Vergie,s past and present actions alone shows her (reputation tarnished)To me, looks more and more like McCabe is using Judge Lindsay to help obtain information for the New york case ,and the Cal case.MY OPINION Judge Lindsay,is a cleaver,underhanded judge,she knows right now all eyes are on Michael Jackson ,s case,so slip in underhanded decisions.WELL.those who have no lawyers,should stir up a whole lot of newsworthy attention,bring this case once again in the news,I HOPE YOU NOTICED HOW SHE BACKED OFF,about Lyndal,not because she was thoughtful,Lyndal jail time brought out NEWS.
I will have to take back what I said about Mary,(your thinking),I no longer understand,Virgie DID NOT WIN anything.AND NEVER WILL.You love Virgie so much,please explain a (MOTHER)NOT DOING ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE,to help her daughter.long before Howard came into the picture,Please explain to me,any of the actions Vergie has done to help her daughter.Vergie,s actions are to help herself NOT and never was to help Anna.Even Judge Chin finds fault with some of the book,but you find a mother loving that fifth,something to love about Vergie.you find making Anna cry,and hurt what her own mother said on National TV.A LOVING MOTHERyou find taking reporters to her daughters funeral something to love about Vergie,Ever since Anna and Daniel died,she has made it about her,I AM SICK OF THE VERGIE PITTY POT.I wonder if anyone noticed,in all the three hours of E-Entertainment,Vergie name NEVER came up,also Any article ever written,were was there a loving mother,NOT,Mary you have turned to nasty for me.
Good Morning All!
Ken, I must have missed that in the Order… Apologies to you both! Yet, that would put his work at 32 hours or more… WHAT?
* :D Just another GOOD reason for ANY Appellate Judge (even in TX) to say WHAT? NO WAY!
When you could have subpoenaed her servers for this: FISHING EXPEDITION! Also, what other County in the US has a non-jurisdictional defendant get charged like ANY BIG Amount? Especially when you have a multimillion dollar firm with a pro se defendant that would have passed a Bankruptcy hearing on there own finances due to the economy like many others around them? Except for their interference, now she will have to wait… Which most likely was the plan all along! They (TX team) must stay up at night and devise ways to ‘tighten those screws’ on each and every defendant! SC case should be tightening THEIR screws against this firm and their unscrupulous helpers! I hope anyway!
** Keep digging that Hole McCabe is what I say! What a small Creeps imo — all of them that harm people JUST for the sake of harming them and revenge! This has NOTHING to do with the False allegations of defamation against Anna’s bio-mom! They even seem to be having fun like their Topix groupies!
The ONLY way I see this to make Texas worry is to go through the process HKS is with the Writ, if that is not handled correctly like the Recusal was just illegally ‘brushed aside’ without ANY investigation… Then it seems the ONLY thing to do is:
>> get those two with the phony sworn statements in there and Cross Examine them to show TX part in this conspiracy like SC is beginning to show! jmho on their unjust acts!
“The story about LH and the court clerk testifying is gossip–just as Vice’s story that the stay was granted for 18 months in CA.
Thanks for clearing up my confusion about the motion to recuse–yes, that is what TS was waiting on–a signature and something about having knowledge that Judge Underwood had signed her request for enlargement of time to respond to McCabe’s objection to the recusal motion by HKS.
I agree that the motion for contempt is moot when there is already an appeal for the motion to compel–so that makes that story about hearing the motion invalid if it happened.
I find all the gossip and one-side description of what happened in court to be untrustworthy and slanted and an excuse for the VA topix people to go crazy venting and trashing people.
The court filings clarify matters and there are those who celebrate a blogger going to jail and it makes their day so beautiful if only another could go to jail also. They desire this so deeply it astonishes one. Oh, how they dreamed of LH returning to jail.
Bloggers just like themselves–self-righteous, judgmental bloggers no better than any blogger.
Pathetic.” Jul 18th 2009 by Howard Supporter
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Roxanne,
Do you know if Lyn was actually there?
[At yesterday's hearings in this bogus made-up case by qv and havana... ;) ]
DAMN! Someone needs to make those two accountable for all the harm they have helped this unjust law firm and Court do against people who were only looking up info just like WV and DC were for Texas. IF NOT FOR THEIR LIES >> THERE WOULD BE NO STATE BOGUS CASE! imo
HOLY COW! Excellent post about Ball > who MANY do not TRUST!
quote: 1680. If anyone read the filings, and no I know the Judge doesn’t, they would understand that there was no destruction of ‘evidence’ of Bonnie’s. The forensics did a long detailed list of things ‘altered’ upon her technician copying her hard drive. The Court and strangel the forensic expert ignore the FACT that there was NO EVIDENCE destroyed, everything was there for him to gather, the whole long crap spewed by him was about the ’system’ and the ’software’ no where was actual evidence destroyed, just moved, etc.
as well one charge by the forensics expert was later found to be not credible in saying that a folder was deleted, whereas any computer ‘expert’ or anyone with some technical experience would realize he made a HUGE MISTAKE and essentially lied and got caught. let me explain. He stated that Bonnie specifically deleted a folder and it contained certain things pertinent to the lawsuit. The folder was never deleted. It had been moved so in a technical sense the expert attempts to say it wasn’t there and suggests deliberate attempt to destroy when in reality he either missed it or upon doing the technical aspects (which was not in the compel order) he saw that it had been moved and either forgot to go and look for it and rely on the aspect of it just being moved OR was so focused on attempts to say destruction of evidence forgot and the folder was right in front of him the whole time. I am not explaining myself right but the evidence was not touched, destroyed, nothing. He merely states all the system and software changes that occurred during BS’s tech. The folder was found right where the tech ‘moved’ it upon retrieving the system back from forensics. Makes you wonder, why all the trouble to prove everything BUT THE EVIDENCE was altered… to appear that something nefarious was done? And take the focus off the fact that all evidence was given and intact.
Posted at 1:26AM on Jul 18th 2009 by who picked the expert?”
* I AGREE; there was no destruction of evidence!
LOL > there is no evidence to destroy… I bet McC is just pissed he could not find other things on there about HKS or LB to try to start another suit/case as
this seems like he has make this his life’s mission!
Too bad that after awhile (even in TX) the Courts will not allow him to represent anyone against HKS, LB ect…
EMMETT > WERE YOU THERE IN THE HEARING YESTERDAY, IF SO PLEASE COME ON HERE AND TELL US THE TRUTH OF WHAT HAPPENED.
“WVice wrote:
FYI – the judge was ready to sign the arrest warrant yesterday, AGAIN, if it wasn’t for McC coming up with an alternative to jail. Keep deluding yourself.(Go ask Emmett, he was there)” p. 827
Beverly [105] About Texas being poor…….it was said on the local news earlier this week that by next week, they would be broke in regards to our unemployment fund here. Our wonderful governor refused to take the money offered by the federal gov’t but now they are asking to “borrow” money from them.
WVice wrote:
You may persist in your own bitterness about whatever in life caused your damaged thinking process. No one cares. VA’s rep has recovered beautifully and in the process HKS and LB’s reputations has taken a serious beating.
As for McC. His one of the finest lawyers out there. His academic prestige is beyond your computer screen. He is known nationwide for many things, including books he’s written, law articles, etc. What have you done with your life?
Gatos wrote:
Well, Mary would agree with you. I’ll give you that.
Mary wrote:
yes I do.
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Gag!
Those she has ‘latched on’ over there… Deserve her! LOL (&) Good Luck w/ that! :D
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Hey, All of the defendant’s Lawyers, and TMZ, CBS Included!
** WV McCabes/Joaquin’s ‘helper’ Has STATED THE FACT >“VA’s rep has recovered beautifully…”
>> So, WHAT can the possible damages be in regards to their lies of harming her reputation?
CASE CLOSE, CASE DISMISSED, TEXAS LOST! ;)
LOL meant > McCabes/O’Quinn’s ‘helper’… Do not know where the heck “Joaquin’s” came from!
sorry.
Well, have a great day… could only be here for a bit this morning. Be back later this afternoon.
Beth [97 & 98] thanks for sharing Swims intake of yesterday’s court proceedings they certainly clear up a lot of my questions.
#99 ~~ my thought exactly, should this nonsense go to trial then Team Texas must show and prove exactly what VA lost.
BETH—Is there duct tape wide enough for WV.that piece of garbage just said,what Howard is suiing about,so pin a rose on BIG MOUTH.and I have news for her,Vergie,s reputation,is known world wide as greedy grandma.and it sure as hell does not have anything to do with bloggers,DREAM ON WV AND TEAM TEXAS,I have been talking to a lot to Tourist,and not one mentions who Vergie married,or anything anything about any thing on a blog,THEY DO MENTION VERGIE ON TV,and a lot saw what I saw with the bible.and pictures of Virgie at the book signing,The judge is playing good cop ,bad cop,trying to make McCabe look good,SORRY NO CAN DO,I picture him with his pants down,harrassing a law student,IF there was no fact,he still would be teaching.I said this before,he should have been thrown off the case for UNETHICAL PRACTICE OF LAW.INTIMIDATION.and telling a defendent ,what she was supposed to do,He should have NEVER GIVEN ANY advice to Rose,I DO MEAN NEVER.Judge Lindsay did not want the newspapers up her BUTT.BUT IF i was there ,I WOULD BE IN THE NEWSPAPERS OFFICE.
PS—The only bitterness,is Vergie,who,s daughter HATED HER,and went to her rest hating her mother,and if I was Larry,Dannielynn would find out as soon as possible about Vergie.Vergie got left out of her daughter will,I do not think Vergie ever gave a damm about her daughter,JUST HERSELF.How many years was Anna drugging and drinking before Howard,and when Mashall saw Anna it was in a strip joint,so tell me WV.what good did mommie Vergie do?how did she help her daughter?NOT ONE OF THE FOOLS ON T EVER SAID WHAT vERGIE DID TO HELP ANNA,BEFORE HOWARD.MAY DANNIELYNN DISPISE HER GRANDMA FOR THE GREEDY TRASH SHE IS .
KEN—–The waste of the courts time and everyone,s moneymakes the judge look like what she is,there is NO WAY IN HELL,Vergie will get a financial settlement.The anger at Joe Jackon for abusing his son,is now being made known,and the public is up in arms about it,what does Vergie think will happen when is it is made known about pulling Anna out of a joint by her hair,and handcuffing her to a bed,all in uniform.GOOD MOTHER DAUGHTER RELATIONS,but then Vergie was only concerned about what people thought of her,NOT HELPING HER DAUGHTER,ANNA WAS WELL INTO DRUGS,LONG BEFORE HOWARD KNEW HER,WHERE THE HELL WAS MOMMIE.As a officer she could have had her daughter committed,she was so afraid Anna would hurt her,Maybe than,Anna could have got the help she needed,SHOW LOVE,WHICH VERGIE NEVER DID, LOVE HER CHILD ,instead of worrying about how namy husbands she could get.
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So they got a default against Bonnie. That mean’s they can NEVER depose Bonnie or make her do another thing. No conspiracy was found huh? I think that means that McCabe will still end up paying Ball for his work because Bonnie has filed bankruptcy and if I’m not mistaken the only thing that can NOT be discharged on a bankruptcy is a find of Tort, in other words being found guilty of conspiracy. Hmmm Interesting.
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Beth
I will be glad to clear up Miss Spin Cycles blantant untruths.
1. Yes Lyndal was there
2. Yes Lyndal did go to the restroom 2 times. Once before the break and again after she testified. Both timeleaving her purse and the cell phone she was using in the court room.
3. She made ONE call to TS and it was during the BREAK and she testified to EXACTLY what that call was about in the court room to see if she needed to pick her up from the airport or not and that was prior to TS name even being brought up in court.
4. SHE DID NOT ADMIT TO A CONSPIRACY BETWEEN HERSELF AND TS. What BULLSHIT. The same spin was tried last time Lyndal was in court. IT IS AN OUT RIGHT LIE. Besides, how can 2 pro se defendants occasionally talking to each other on the phone be seen as a conspiracy.
5. The clerk who testifed of the conversations she had with TSNEVER pointed to Lyndal when she returned and said “there is Lyndal Harrington and she has been in contact with TS during this enitre proceeding.” ANOTHER OUT RIGHT LIE. The judge or McCabe asked if she had spoken with TS that day and she said yes.
6. Yes, the thing about the arrest warrant is true. The judge was going to sign it and McCabe said basically…”it looks like she is filing an appeal why don’t we see if it is granted or denied and then go from there.” the judge and McCabe both smiled at each other and agreed.
“…the judge and McCabe both smiled at each other and agreed.”
Thanks Roxanne!
I cannot wait until all of us can ’smile’ at each other when McC and that worthless piece of ___ excuse for an officer of the Court,
both of them are! > lowdown and worthless!
Absolutely ridiculous! I cannot wait until they are OUT OF THEIR JOBS!
Go from There? LOL Well DUMBASS M*C > You CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO Ms. Stern NOW or anytime in the Future!
LOL Keep smiling you ignorant nutcase! jmho of them of course…
There’s a lot to be said about the latest court docs, and I thank Rose and Ken for making them available. The one thing that stayes with me is the statement in Larry’s doc…..invasion without justification”. Seems that covers it all. )
I don’t know about the tort Roxanne,isn’t a wrongful death suit a tort? from what I read it is and in a case I know about the defendants in the case were told to file bankruptcy in an attempt to avoid the tort as came about they filed to soon
Roxanne [118] I must have missed something somewhere, who is “Miss Spin Cycles” that is claiming all the bullshit/lies that now you are clearing up on behalf of Lyndal and TS. Is it Wilma? If so it was my understanding by reading her post yesterday she was not in the courtroom, so if she is making those claims to what took place she is getting it from someone who supposedly was there.
Beth [119] wow why don’t you say how you really feel about McC & the Judge
just kidding quite sure the rest of us feel the same ;-)
JMA……how could I ever forget somone as fun as you? Never, here have a Corona on me with lots of lime. I just bought a lime tree that has the best flower scent ever. But the dang birds keep pecking the limes away. I will save you lots though.
Wish Red the very best of luck, she will need all she can muster up in her dirty pile of dun.
Beth…..no doubt.
Bev I was back reading and came across your post about the handcuffing AQNS to her bed,when that first came out VA said it was to keep her at home because she like to go out and about, nothing to do with VA and harm to VA nothing at all
MY MY POOR T —You do not like my opinion(TOO BAD)I cannot look ,or hear the name McCabe without getting sick to my stomach,that picture of him in his office,being a smug discusting Pig,is all I see in my mind.Poor Larry cannot get that divorce from Vergie,she is like a blood sucker,drain the blood out of every decent human being,Who do you think your trying to intimadate?you cockroches yap about everyone,and it is because you have no answer to what help did Virgie give her daughter?NONE.I cannot wait for Vergie,s treatment of her daughter to hit the courts.BONNIE,LOVED HER BROTHER,something Vergie knows nothing about LOVE
http://www.law.uh.edu/Libraries/ethics/Judicial/complaints/index.html I was looking up how you can have a judge looked at by the judicial system in Texas and this looks like the way to go especially if Teresa has kept good records.You have to send in what you have in records to get another judge to take a look at things
Hmm, WHAT A GREAT LINK! Good Job!!
“Filing a Complaint on a Texas Judge”
“The State Commission on Judicial Conduct is mandated by the Texas Constitution to investigate and prosecute allegations of misconduct by judges in Texas. The Commission has authority over Texas judges, including appellate, district, county, justice and municipal level judges, visiting judges, and associate judges. The Commission has no jurisdiction over federal officials, mediators, arbitrators, or administrative judicial officers. There is a complaint form which is used to open a file. The form may be obtained from and should be mailed to:”
STATE COMMISSION ON JUDICIAL CONDUCT
P.O. BOX 12265
AUSTIN, TEXAS 78711-2265
> “Your complaint should state clearly what you believe the judge did that may be misconduct, together with sufficient facts to describe what occurred.
> The Texas Constitution requires that all investigative activities of the Commission are confidential. This means that the Commission cannot confirm or deny that an investigation is underway or discuss the details of the investigation.
> The Commission meetings are not open to the public or to complainants.
“Each case is carefully and thoroughly reviewed and investigated as appropriate. The Commission considers and votes upon each matter on a case-by-case basis. Judges are held to a high standard of ethical conduct as prescribed by the laws of Texas, including the Canons of Judicial Conduct.
The Commission may vote to give a public or private admonition, warning, or reprimand. Also, a judge may be required to obtain additional legal or ethics education. In addition, the Commission has the power to suspend a judge, with or without pay, upon the judge’s indictment by a grand jury for a felony or upon being charged with a misdemeanor involving official misconduct.
If the Commission determines that the allegations against a judge could warrant removal, or that a matter should be publicly litigated, it may vote “Formal Proceedings.” In that even, the Supreme Court appoints a Special Master (usually a retired District Judge) and a full, open trial is held. The complainant is entitled to appear and give testimony. At the conclusion of the public trial, the Special Master reports “Findings of Fact” to the Commission. The members of the Commission may then dismiss, issue a public censure, or recommend that the judge be removed from office. If the Commission recommends removal, then the Supreme Court appoints a special seven-judge tribunal of appeals court judges randomly selected. If the Tribunal determines that removal (which may include a prohibition from ever sitting as a judge again) is appropriate, the judge may appear to the Supreme Court of Texas under the substantial evidence rule.”
http://www.law.uh.edu/Libraries/ethics/Judicial/complaints/index.html
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There is more on that link of hmm’s *BUT* a very interesting read… FOR SURE! ;)
Lucky [124] why thank you, yummy it is ice cold
Yeah I guess the proper thing to do is at least wish the Red Dog luck but damn how dumb does the one stepping in the dung and leaving tracks everywhere thinking it will never catch up to them have to be, geez.
Canons of Judicial Conduct
http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:4Pv5DQsEVtYJ:www.abanet.org/cpr/jclr/1924_canons.pdf+Canons+of+Judicial+Conduct&hl=en&gl=us
Preamble
“In addition to the Canons for Professional Conduct of Lawyers which it has formulated and adopted, the American Bar Association, mindful that the character and conduct of a judge should never be objects of indifference, and that declared ethical standards tend to become habits of life, deems it desirable to set forth its views respecting those principles which should govern the personal practice of members of the judiciary in the administration of their office. The Association accordingly adopts the following Canons, the spirit of which it suggests as a proper guide and reminder for judges, and as indicating what the people have a right to expect from them.
2. The Public Interest.
Courts exist to promote justice, and thus to serve the public interest. Their administration should be speedy and careful. Every judge should at all times be alert in his rulings and in the conduct of the business of the court, so far as he can, to make it useful to litigants and to the community. He should avoid unconsciously falling into the attitude of mind that the litigants are made for the courts instead of the courts for the litigants.
4. Avoidance of Impropriety.
A judge’s official conduct should be free from impropriety and the appearance of impropriety; he should avoid infractions of law; and his personal behavior, not only upon the Bench and in the performance of judicial duties, but also in his every day life, should be beyond reproach.
5. Essential Conduct.
He should be temperate, attentive, patient, impartial, and, since he is to administer the law and apply it to the facts, he should be studious of the principles of the law and diligent in endeavoring to ascertain the facts.
7. Promptness.
He should be prompt in the performance of his judicial duties, recognizing that the time of litigants, jurors and attorneys is of value and that habitual lack of punctuality on his part justifies dissatisfaction with the administration of the business of the court.
10. Courtesy and Civility.
He should be courteous to counsel, especially to those who are young and inexperienced, and also to all others appearing or concerned in the administration of justice in the court.
He should also require, and, so far as his power extends, enforce on the part of clerks, court officers and counsel civility and courtesy to the court and to jurors, witnesses, litigants and others having business in the court.
13. Kinship or Influence.
He should not act in a controversy where a near relative is a party; he should not suffer his conduct to justify the impression that any person can improperly influence him or unduly enjoy his favor, or that he is affected by the kinship, rank, position or influence of any party or other person.
18. Continuances.
Delay in the administration of justice is a common cause of complaint; counsel are frequently responsible for this delay. A judge, without being arbitrary or forcing cases unreasonably or unjustly to trial when unprepared, to the detriment of parties, may well endeavor to hold counsel to a proper appreciation of their duties to the public interest, to their own clients, and to the adverse party and his counsel, so as to enforce due diligence in the dispatch of business before the court.
20. Influence of Decisions Upon the Development of the Law.
A judge should be mindful that his duty is the application of general law to particular instances, that ours is a government of law and not of men, and that he violates his duty as a minister of justice under such a system if he seeks to do what he may personally consider substantial justice in a particular case and disregards general law as he knows it be binding on him. Such action may become a precedent unsettling accepted principles and may have detrimental consequences beyond the immediate controversy. He should administer his office with a due regard to the integrity of the system of the law itself, remembering that he is not a depositary of arbitrary power, but a judge under the sanction of law.
21. Idiosyncrasies and Inconsistencies.
Justice should not be molded by the individual idiosyncrasies of those who administer it. A judge should adopt the usual and expected method of doing justice, and not seek to be extreme or peculiar in his judgments, or spectacular or sensational in the conduct of the court. Though vested with discretion in the imposition of mild or severe sentences he should not compel persons brought before him to submit to some humiliating act or discipline of his own devising, without authority of law, because he thinks it will have a beneficial corrective influence.
In imposing sentence he should endeavor to conform to a reasonable standard of punishment and should not seek popularity or publicity either by exceptional severity or undue leniency.
29. Self-Interest
He should abstain from performing or taking part in any judicial act in which his personal interests are involved. If he has personal litigation in the court of which he is a judge, he need not resign his judgeship on that account, but he should, of course, refrain from any judicial act in such a controversy.
32. Gifts and Favors.
He should not accept any presents or favors from litigants, or from lawyers practicing before him or from others whose interests are likely to be submitted to him for judgment.”
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34. A Summary of Judicial Obligation.
** “In every particular his conduct should be above reproach. He should be conscientious, studious, thorough, courteous, patient, punctual, just, impartial, fearless of public clamor, regardless of public praise, and indifferent to private political or partisan influences; he should administer justice according to law, and deal with his appointments as a public trust; he should not allow other affairs or his private interests to interfere with the prompt and proper performance of his judicial duties, nor should he administer the office for the purpose of advancing his personal ambitions or increasing his popularity.” **
What a very interesting observation!
* “it took ownership of the parties rights…”
THAT IN ITSELF IS ILLEGAL & AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION of the US.
** I do hope as this poster below points out that ‘some’ higher authority would make this WHOLE CASE >> Null & Void!
“One thing I noticed different with TS’s Emergency Order and HKS’s Emergency Order is TS elaboration on the contract, since the contract is officially ‘incorporated’ into the Compel Order by judge Lindsay but yet signed by OQ and Ball. Despite all objections from parties to the Motion to Compel the contract becomes somewhat of a whole different ballgame due to the wording and lack of Court’s involvement in the Contract. From reading over it took ownership of the parties’ rights and says the agree to things outside of the compel order. I think if gone through with a fine tooth comb, which perhaps will come in the future, one would see that almost every section of the contract is null and void. I wonder if that makes the Compel Order null and void? Posted at 5:09PM on Jul 18th 2009 by who picked the expert?” p.113
JMA or Lucky,
Any thoughts as to which ‘T’ poster that is that keeps going over to the TMZ comments and posting that trash talk?
I was hoping you could tell by ‘their writing’ on the last 3 or 4 pages from the end…
If not; no worries, they do just ignore them over there. I just wanted to make mention of it as they seem to be really working extra hard for some reason lately! Maybe a bonus? :D
Hey, everyone.
I have a rundown on what occurred in Harris County yesterday regarding all the motions on the docket. I’ve been trying to reach Rose to ask her if she would like to have my synopsis/notes and write the article herself, or just have me write the article. Or even simpler, allow me to just post my synopsis here. I don’t want to do anything without Rose or Ken’s permission first, and I’ve decided to bypass Red this time. Plus, I find Topix a waste.
I hope everyone has been well!
Beth [128] well hell that should be easy for Butterfly to file a complaint on the Judge for this suit due to she can show every one of her Motions she filed and how they were never heard.
#131 Beth I was just reading that observation about Balls contract and how it took ownership of the owners rights and the Court passed this contract?
No one signed over their rights to Ball for their privacy I thought he had boundaries of what he could look at, but looking at his report for Bonnie he didn’t follow anything except to give a report to McCabe..
Bonnie shouldn’t worry about any bill as he didn’t follow the court directions.
Beth [132] I’ll have to take a look and get back to you on who I may think it is.
Hello Emmett,
Am looking forward to your take on the Court.
Topix a waste !! No whatever made you think that? Funny how the world is a different place without any Topix input.
Hope everyone is having a nice weekend..
136 the Topix poster on tmz I think a few of them not just 1..
They always do this when things are going our way. Just ignore them everyone else does.
[133] Hello Emmett, hope you have doing well too.
[134] JMA, I so agree! She has everything in the appeal that would apply, I believe…
[135] heath, that is so correct! NO ONE signed over their Constitutional rights! A direct, limited Order that applies to specifics in a Court of law… >> is much different than what happened here.
I too hope that Ball doesn’t even have the nerve after the biased crap he wrote to ever write her a bill!
(Besides I assume he has been compensated already) jmho ;)
[138] You may be right on it being more than one… Yes, I too just overlook them, but still curious who was so intent on muddying up the place. Almost, seem to make it a priority… very odd…
Oh Emmett, please give us the facts. I’m sure Rose would appreciate your writing skills and first hand knowledge since transcripts are seldom published by the court.
Anyone up for a chat???
“hope you have doing well too” s/b HOPE YOU HAVE ‘BEEN’ DOING WELL ALSO…
LOL I ususally only mess up this much in chat!
Hello Sammy!
Hope that you have had a good week!
*I can pop in @ 7:45 blog time (20 min or so from now) Have to finish up supper…
I’m in Chat and waiting for companionship.
Emmett [133] Please check yer email, rose just emailed you.
Sammy1 [143] You make it sound like it’s a dating chat room.
Sammy1 [143] I have to agree with Ken #144, you make it sound as though you are looking for a date
heath [138] after going over and reading were Beth said I think you are right it is more then one poster and the majority they post on TMZ is straight from Topix. So really all they were offering up was the insanity from posters over at Topix.
Emmett ~~ I’m with everyone else, cannot wait for your input on yesterdays court proceeding.
Just waiting for someone to talk too, not date.
Sammy1. I know, it was just the way you said it. When I read it, a vision of one of those late night commercials where they got the girls talking about “call me, I’m waiting” just popped into mind.
Ken you are too funny. At this stage in my life, seriously doubt if I would be confused with “call me” commercial.
GREAT CHAT GUYS! Thank you!
Well I am going to go rest… I will leave you with these great comments I just read: (p 133)
“Yes, I see she places a great deal of emphasis on Craig Ball and the authority he has since it directly relates to the Motion to Compel. As for the contract between Ball and McCabe I questioned it from the beginning. I even thought he had signed it earlier but was never able to find anything other than the Dec. 18th date for his signature. I recall at the time looking everywhere for such a doc, convinced that Ball had merely been waiting in the wings for the go-ahead from McCabe. Looking back perhaps it was just a gut instinct that Ball had been involved long before his name was promoted to the court. I could almost visualize the said
document! Unfortunately, my docs are scattered and mis-labeled and that would have been an older doc from 2008.
I’m not sure why the 280th court website refers to the Petition to the 1st court of appeals as ‘an accelerated appeal’ .
Posted at 7:05PM on Jul 18th 2009 by Howard Supporter
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Ball uses hyperbolic language to describe usual and customary software that people use to maintain their computers as if just having the software means you are attempting to thwart discovery. Ball uses conclusory statements in much the same way as McCabe and McNamara have in their over-wrought Court docs.
When I think of ‘Ball – McCabe’ possibilities I’m compelled to examine what other lawyers have done who initially everyone would have thought worked independently of the TX cabal.
- A lawyer ostensibly working for FS/G. Ben, Susan Brown, apparently was doing more with McCabe and BKD, LLP then her clients. And it took a direct order from Judge Wooten to Susan Brown for her to turn over the materials owed to ANS/Estate after Brown had delayed doing so for 15 months. She even is the one who apparently provided and convinced Geraldo that he had received the entire unedited ‘Clown’ video and we know how Geraldo gnawed on that bone! Brown also is accused of sitting in on interviews with Agent Santiago where she provides much of the narrative and ‘purported facts’.
- McNamara ‘accidentally’ posts on PACER the ’select’ confidential docs from the Cosby case that would benefit McCabe with his ‘packaging’ of materials for the CA DOJ. McNamara also unbelievably attempted to subpoena FS/G. Ben for their stolen materials. This could only have been a CYA from McNamara since Cosby no doubt was already a recipient of those stolen materials as was VA’s Team and a host of others.
And just to tie this all together, we saw McCabe/Clark go on a victory tour after the criminal charges were made to check on their handiwork.
- a trip to Geraldo’s show – he still loves them.
- a trip to criminal Court in LA – oops, HKS’s criminal lawyers just attend to make verbal ‘appearances’ and demand discovery rather then enter a plea.
- a trip to Judge Chin’s Court room to hear McNamara’s oral arguments – oops, the Judge uses the word ‘preposterous’ to describe the only selling point of Cosby’s libelous book. Posted at 10:04PM on Jul 18th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
LOL I am tired… I meant p. 113
Good night everyone!
Emmett will be writing an article, and will have it up later tonight or first thing in the morning… I am looking forward to it…
121
Hmmm
I’m not sure. That’s why I said it the way I did. A “tort” is the only claim that can NOT be discharged under a bankruptcy. I believe that conspiracy is considered a tort. With a default judgement being entered against Bonnie with NO mention of conspiracy that would mean that the judgement would be discharged under the bankruptcy. At least that’s the way I understand it. I could be wrong though.
122
JMA
She was there and yes that is one that I was referring to.
You guys have the FACTS of yesterday in a nut shell already. I’m sure Emmett will be able to add to it a more detailed version.
On this link below… count the pics on the left and go down to picture/non picture #15
http://lawyers.law.cornell.edu/lawyers/texas/houston-sugar-land-baytown-tx-metro
Then there are links to the right of that …
LOL How strange… I found that last night and copied what I just wrote to wordpad. Thought I would double-check my counting of pics…
* It has CHANGED to #27 picture down on the left. That sure was a lot of additions in a few hours or maybe they (pics) move everyday? ;)
Roxanne [153] so are you saying Wilma was in the courtroom. If that is the case then who was it using her Moniker giving all the juicy details but claiming they were not in the courtroom?
WVice
Houston, TX
#17001
Friday
McCabe Sizzles wrote:
Is Emmett there today?
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Don’t know. I’m not there today. Babysitting!
OT but I thought all y’all that go into the chat might be happy to know, that the user list has been moved back to the left side off the chat window, like it use to be.
#57 Thank you Ken.
JMA
No I was mistaken. Wilma wasn’t in court the other day. I misunderstood what had been said to me.
Who would trust that woman with their children??Seems she left hers to run all over the country with Mr bingo man
#160 hmm – LOL – too funny, I’m still laughing.
Roxanne [159] thanks for clarifying that.
hmm [160] I agree I know I wouldn’t
Hey, Lucky if you are reading here today while out shopping I thought about you. We pull into the parking lot and the vehicle right in front of us had a tag that read “LONGNEC”
thought that was pretty cool just wish I had thought of it.
JMA……………HOW FUNNY AND CUTE. Bet you did think of me, LOL. I would think of you too if I had seen that. But, I am well known all around as Lucky, has been my nic for many moons. I wonder how many nuts follow any plate they see that says Lucky? HAHAHAHAHA
Cheers to you girl. :-)
http://x17online.com/gallery/view_gallery.php?gallery=lbirkhead071809_X17&index=30
43 pics of Dannie-Lynn…