Rose speaks – Celebrity and High Profile Trials

You know, just got through reading the other site.Some of these women have husbands,I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF SICK MEN WOULD WANT THESE PIGS.THERE COMMENTS ARE DISCUSTING,WITH NO BRAIN POWER,and to top it all they think a blogger going to court is (ENTERTAINING).As much as I dispise Virgie Arthur,nothing about her is (entertaining)my opinion—you have to have a sick mind and be very LOW ON THE SOCIAL-ECONOMIC SCALE to find a person going to court,(entertaining),when Lyndal and Butterfly, and any other McCabe sees fit to harrass,are though,I would all get together and write a book about the judicial system and what they went through,also try TV STATIONS. and most of all the Harris County Police Department,where Virgie spent 28 years,after she used her handcuffs to handcuff her daughter to a bed,instead of asking for help,as a police officer should do,The permenant reminder of how good Virgie was,was a loaded gun on a bed near a child,(WEATHER SHE DID NOT WORK AT THAT TIME FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,OR NOT,SHOWS IRRESPONSIBLE ACTIONS

IF Larry is anything other than straight it would be a bisexual. Doesn’t matter either way. I’m bisexual and the love of my life is a woman. I love my child no less because of my sexuality and he loves me no less because of it. As a matter of fact he thinks I can give him great advice for “handling” women. LOL I told him to remember that we are all crazy and he should be fine. He’s 16 and those hormones are raging. I’m constantly having to back him down a bit. LOL

I’m not fond of Larry because of the cruel things he said to Anna after Daniels death. Before anyone says a damn thing….. YES ANNA WAS WRONG TO TRY TO KEEP DANNIELYNN AWAY FROM HIM. BUT, that doesn’t excuse his actions either. Anna was among many things, a TOTALLY DEVESTATED mother who had lost her child. I would think at the time that in a way Larry would have known a little bit about how Anna was feeling. Not the same thing by any means but he had been unable to see or be with his child so I would think that would give him some kind of perception even on the slight. No matter what was going on in life at that time Larry NEVER should have written the things he did in those emails. I mean come on…. refering to Daniel as “that kid” and bitching because Anna had put the cross on Daniel that she and Larry had bought to match…… SO WHAT.

I wont even go into Virgie and how she did things other than to say what type of mother doesn’t get on a plane and go knock a damn gate down to get to her child when she is in what was truly the most difficult and dark time of her life. Anyone who says she didn’t have the money….. I call bullshit. She sure as hell got there the day after Anna died didn’t she. Why didn’t she use that $5 grand she got for selling Daniels pics to buy a plan ticket? NOTHING and I mean NOTHING OR NO ONE COULD HAVE KEPT ME AWAY FROM MY CHILD.

Wilma, come on, give it up. Everyone knows that you work for McCabe and O’Quinn in some capacity. Why is it suc a big deal to admit it?

LARRY YOU ARE A TRUE FUCK HEAD. No damn wonder Anna flicked you to the wind.

Sorry I was so excited I posted it here! LOL

ROXANNE—-How are you doing?,resting I HOPE, I have never been so happy as to learn Lyndal has a Attorney,I am so angry.the law was tainted,by a judge who knowing she met all the requirements for recusel,shows her bias by every order she has made.McCabe seems to like to intimitate a person,when they are vulnerable.Maybe that is the only way he feels like a man,Got news for him,YOU DID NOT MAKE IT.

That statement from Larry is the reason I can’t stand the man and more then likely the reason his show was canceled. He comes off as an angry little man probably with a little you know what.

WELL BETH–You are right on.I think it is time for the Attorneys to do something about TOPIX and there jolly group of sexual repressed women,If you talk filth,no matter what they say,something is very wrong with there men.They sure making there husbands look bad,and can you imagine a child knowing there mother talks that filthy on the internet.THAT IS A PARENT TO BE PROUD OF.I FEEL—MY OPINION Pol and Patrik are like Virgie,give me my way or I WILL TAKE DOWN EVERYONE,AND WHO CARES WHO GETS HURT,I WILL GET WHAT I WANT.I do not think anyone gives a damm right now,what Pol or Patrik have to say,LARRY HAS SHOWN HOW MUCH HE LOVES HIS DAUGHTER AND HIS DAUGHTER LOVES HIM,THATS ALL THAT MATTERS.That hair is still across there ass.Larry and Howard will aways have the good times with Anna to remember her,EVERYONE ELSE BUT A FEW,have moved on,and are sick of tell all books,there is nothing to tell,except what is made up,and as far as pictures.that seems to be popular right now,everynight on tv men kissing men women kissing women,what the hell is POL AND Patrik big deal about,SAME (S) DIFFERENT DAY)

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Grammy
To funny.

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Beverly
I’m still sore but I’m doing fine. If I could stop having “healthy” food stuffed down my throat then I would be even better. I never thought I would get tired of eating vegetables but I’m about over it. LOL

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Beth
That bunch has a quite a fixation with sexual organs and buttplugs….. what do you think that means? ROTFLMAO!!!

KEN AND ROSE—–Do you think Larry might feel a little bit betrayed,that is why he is lashing out,Remember the knife in the back he got from OQ and Virgie.his back is bruised from all the knifes that have been stuck in his back.What he said to Anna,was a father wanting his child,and believe me,Anna created that problem.I am beginning to see Anna for what she was,not what I want to make of her.Like mother like daughter,what a mess she left for Howard to clean up.You cannot go around not a care in the world as you go about destroying lifes.Howard got the (S) END OF all the years he gave to Anna.While I am sorry for her life and what Virgie did to end her own daughters life,Larry is young,and his life was hollywood,and straight or gay,WHO CARES,HE IS NOW A FATHER.Larry is lashing out,ANNA TOOK TO DRINKING AND DRUGS TO SHUT HER MOTHER OUT.

“How come this site did NOT RUSH to copy the document off this site and put it up in their own link???” from my post #26

My Bad… I had only looked on the daily thing… I guess Sizzler/McSizzles/wulfson } or whoever did come here copy the doc and put it up on pg. 4 of the State case thread.
Wonder when McC’s ‘HELPER’s” will START PAYING FOR THEIR OWN COURT DOCUMENTS?
I GUESS THEIR MAIN GOAL IS TO TAKE PEOPLE AWAY FROM COMING TO THE DOWNLOAD SECTION OF THIS SITE (that is free to all) AND RETRIEVING THE DOCUMENTS FROM HERE.
* DOES THIS MEAN THAT McC’S HELPERS ARE TRYING TO ‘HURT’ THIS SITE’S BUSINESS?
MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP IN COURT TOO!

*read

How do you know that is really Larry? I thought everyone belived Larry is o.k. and is the baby dad no matter what. sorry. i’m so confused. ((( Howard & family)))

32. I will agree with all that you have stated in this post Rose. If another one of those trash books are coming out, both should know about it. If there are pictures, I really don’t give a shit. Just about any photo can be photo shopped now. I am not sure if client/attornet privledge ends just because one gets fired. IIRC, it does not end upon a clients death either. This is one of the reason why DO’s ass is in a court battle. I think she should have settled with what she was offered and not to do what she has done. She really set an hell of an example stating the things that she did whether they were true or not, how many clients are going to trust her now?

ROSE—–My bet is on the people when you are talking jury.I hope who ever loses has to pay court costs,All these docs,all this time wasted,Virgie is NOT going to get any money,NOHOW, One article talked about with a group of bloggers,whatever they all said and did,does not defame Virgie,What she is doing to get money is defaming Virgie,most people are intelligent and well read,All Virgie should have done is say one thing and mean it do not double talk,I am quite sure,all Anna medical problems will soon be made known,once Jerry Brown is put in his place,everything will fall into place,POOR CAL,and I do mean poor,you could not get poorer,Brown has to try and make a case off a man that only loved Anna and just like Virgie could not control Anna.Virgie was so outraged, what did she do for her daughter NOTHING.When you defame your own daughter,Have not one conforting word for her,in time of her sons death,YOU deserve a BIG BOOT OUT THE FRONT DOOR OF THE COURTHOUSE.AND IT WILL HAPPEN

§ 33.011 (5) “Settling person” means a person who has, at any time, paid or promised to pay money or anything of monetary value to a claimant in consideration of potential liability with respect to the personal injury, property damage, death, or other harm for which recovery of damages is sought.”

* This caught my attention… LOL Wonder if McC thinks it is monetary value to swear on a statement to a Court of Law declarations ’how’ the plaintiff wanted them phrased. ;) I remember reading the ’help’ McC gave to those two in the transcripts, I also remember the ’dig’ an officer of the court stated about one of the Defendants… WHEN IN FACT it is the McC/VA supporters that SHOULD NEVER BE CALLED A LADY!!! My God, just read that garbage!
It truly should be screenshot! Especially the last two days at Topix and at the Hangout!
McC’s ’other’ propaganda sites since his other star witness is on Sabbatical. :D

§ 33.011 (6) “Responsible third party” means any person who is alleged to have caused or contributed to causing in any way the harm for which recovery of damages is sought, whether by negligent act or omission,…”
ANOTHER DEFENDANT CAN ALLEGE THESE OTHER BLOGGERS CONTRIBUTIONS IN THIS BASELESS CASE, IF IT GETS PUSHED THROUGH THIS SLEEPING JUDGE’S COURTROOM AND ANYTHING IF FOUND BY THIS JUDGE… THEN THEY (OTHER BLOGGERS) SHOULD BE JUST AS RESPONSIBLE.
* LET THEM SWEAT IT OUT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE UNTIL AN IMPROPER VERDICT GETS OVERTURNED IN A YEAR OR TWO BY A HIGHER COURT!
APPEALS CAN KEEP THIS GOING UNTIL 2012.
(Bet they regret ‘selling out’ now, bet they regret all the defamation on the Defendant’s and the Defendant’s Lawyers that has been made record of in their articles….)
Just hope the Red’s site, and BamaCat’s site can get brought in another suit by the Defendant’s as they are contributing to this defamation on their sites and on Topix as I type this now.
Oh, Let’s NOT FORGET the HangOut w/ McCabe Sizzles! (and a few others)

§ 33.016 > Yes! (c ) & (d) do seem to apply also.

Backtracking… § 33.002. “APPLICABILITY. (a) This chapter applies to: (1) any cause of action based on tort in which a defendant, settling person, or responsible third party is found responsible for a percentage of the harm for which relief is sought…”

Say if somehow in this unfair court process in TX it is found she was defamed!
OK, if a monetary amount was determined, then a “SETTLING PERSON” such as the two star witnesses WOULD HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE MONETARILY FOR THE SAME AMOUNT. Unless it is determined in separate findings that their ‘percentage’ was ACTUALLY MORE THAN EVERYONE ELSES! Which Could happen!
(as settling) is DIFFERENT than cooperating)

** WHO wants odds on the two star witnesses RECANTING those statements? ;)

“I am just reading Bonnie Stern’s Response to the Report”

Is this the download 6-12-09 Defendant Bonnie Stern’s Declaration? Thank you.
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“.. just got a Motion that was filed in the Appeals Court in the mail”

God, you usually get those (filed motions) emailed don’t you? Wonder if it is by McC and they wanted it to be ‘drawn out’ just like the maneuvering of WHEN docs get actually filed or accessible from his buddies at the county clerk’s office. JMO along with many other people’s questions on wth is going on there!
(Well we all have a pretty good idea… just would like to see them actually get ‘nailed on it’ from some unbiased person in authority over that court, courtroom, the Judge and that TX law firm!)
Where the HELL is that damn TX Ethics Board???

Please disregard question on 43.
I found out why I was confused, I will go ahead and download BOTH. Thanks.

“June 12, 2009 Defendant Bonnie Stern Response to Special Master, Craig Ball’s report suggesting she intentionally deleted and scrubbed hard drives, she addresses it in whole and attaches both of Scott Bly’s Declarations.”
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2112.

“June 12, 2009 Defendant Bonnie Stern’s Declaration submitted with her Response to Special Master Craig Ball’s Report and attaches exhibits to support her Response filed with the Court in regard to Craig Ball’s Report.”
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2113.

A I agree great post JMA,AS long as third parties are being bought into this I am glad to see the other four bought in.Kim and AD may find themselves in deep dodo along with QV and Havana.Never posted or even went to QV but I cant believe I was taken in by Kim,Ad I did don’t have anything to say except when her friend died and I said I was sorry.Kim though told me how to find a download for my computer so it wouldn’t be so slow.I still don’t believe VA thinks Howard did anything I think she is just after any money she can get and McShame is trying to get even for O’Quinn losing in Fl.I think all along it was all about what money could be gotten and kept in Texas.
After listening to McShame he admitted it and I hope the courts see that. I saw in the files that he accuse people of money laundering and say when asked how he knew he says it was on the internet LOL Good one McShame to bad that sleeping judge did not catch that one and the bit about Gary..McShame says his reputation has been ruined well McShame go on the internet and look your self up and that will tell you why people think you are at the bottom of the pond
Beth Glad to see you posting you explain things so well. I never thought about the Texas ethics board,wonder if you have to be a Texas resident to send a letter of complaint against an injustice?Since the AG in California is brown it does no good to say anything to him about injustice as he is part of it.Politics should have no bearing on court cases and someone who accepted campaign money6should not hear cases from that attorney.

Roxanne You said it all I wondered the same thing about LB and that e-mail And I also agree that he seems to be doing a good job with Dannielynn and you are right as long as she is kept safe that is the important thing.I also agree he went way to far on the Illness way way to far no matter how mad he is think before you post,I also have a terminal Illness but it could be tomorrow or 10 years from now only God knows. DO madf LB and I am sorry to say the aw shucks wore off fast. I still can’t get over the fact5 that he wanted to drop the case when Anna died,That to me any way showed it wasn’t his child he was all that concerned about at that time.Or was that a DO saying seems I remember her saying something about she had to talk him into keeping the case going,Tha5ts why I always wondered if she had any dealings with O’Quinn and his firm,we know Rita did and she was DO friend

TO THE FOOL AT TOPIX——That has so much to say about Howard giving Anna meds,I know you think you know everything, you are so smart.well to tell you for the future,If given permission by a doctor,Howard was allowed to pick up and give Anna meds.GEE,I quess you do not know everything,

I have been cleaning the house and thinking about this. In reality, just this one case is a study in human nature. I do not know how everyone here formed their opinion but I do know how I formed my opinion. Below is my opinion of it all.

Howard Stern- While I agree he did not murderer Anna or Daniel, I do think he enabled her. For a number of reasons and not one of them is for money that people claim he hid in off shore accounts. I think he was trying to hide things from the MEDIA. To protect Anna from the gossip and also to protect her from losing her daughter. I think he really loved Anna and could not tell her no. Oh he could try but once Anna started to pout, Stern gave into her. I consider him more of a manager than a lawyer for Anna. I do not care that he had a law degree. He might have known or knows, how to play the system, but he was more for keeping Anna in the spotlight. He loved her with all of her flaws.

Larry Birkhead- Well I do not find fault with him emailing crude remarks to Anna. He was fighting for his child. I know Anna had just lost Daniel and the timing wasn’t right. I certainly can understand him being pissed off. And I can understand him being pissed off now also. I do not know if he had any part in this Step brother story and until it is proven, I will doubt it. But now he has been added to the lawsuit. To me, again, Virgie is taking money from Dannielynn when suing her father. Now IF he did write that post, then it is crude, rude and uncalled for when mentioning Rose’s health. The anger could have been stated WITHOUT mentioning any of the health issues. As much as I supported him for his rights as a father, I do not support a reality show. That little girl needs to grow up as normal as possible. She will have enough issues to overcome when she gets older.

Anna- I, for one, believed her when she gave that “Bring It On Mommie Dearest” interview. Anna was hurting and also fighting for her child. I would love to see phone records showing if Anna called her mother and when. Anna was morally wrong to with hold a child from her father and I don ot give a shit if there was a deal or no deal (I do not believe that there was a deal) I do believe that if there was an arrangement between Anna and Larry, then it would have been on paper and Anna would have used it while she was fighting the DNA battle.

To be continued

Just read it. Statements like “…Defendant Turner alleges….did in fact harm her reputation” and “…… in fact did do harm to Plaintiff” and ” …did in fact harm Virgie Arthur’s reputation” and “….which actions Turner alleges did defame and harm Plaintiff”.

Turner is admitting that Virgie Arthur was defamed, imo, throughout the motion. Just that Turner didn’t do it.

ROSE—–Pease give me a answer to this,I know you no longer have a attorney,but you do have a medical problem and a doctor,can any statement you made to McCabe when he was (helping you)be discounted,as you were ill,and not thinkig rational,I know the days I have pain.I cannot think right.This also goes to Larry,remember how you felt when Vergie shoved those papers in front of you when you were sick.be a little compassionate.I know everyone is hurting,because of Vergie,but by the time this case goes to court,Vergie will have SELF DESTRUCTED HERSELF.There already is a lot of bad press,and she will never no matter how hard she try,s never get money or her reputation back,AND just like the death of Anna is Virgie cross to live with,so is her own reputatio

Virgie Arthur is not going to self-destruct. No one gives two hoots about Virgie Arthur’s reputation. That is just an excuse to harrass HKS and anyone else that stands in the way of ANS’ estate. The O’Quinn law Firm is using civil suits to their advantage. And at the very least, the O’Quinn Law Firm can say “never mind” “drop the civil suit” or “settle” . The ball is in Virgie Arthur’s corner. Virgie Arthur is the Plaintiff. HKS has been arrested and charged. Game point. This civil suits mean nothing more than a way to a means to O’Q.

KEN—–My feeling toward Larry is and will always be,he has had a lot to contend with .I am sorry you feel I have come here to disrupt your site,by giving my HONEST FEELING.THANK YOU FOR THE TIME I have spentGOOD BY.

People who can not control their temper concern me when they are in charge of children. I worry how they will react when the child does something that makes them feel angry as all children will do this to caregivers from time to time.

DG……….I mostly agree with your thoughts about Howard. I also see him as Anna’s manager and not so much as her attorney. IMO he loved her totally. In each video with them together he is watching, watching watching Anna and watching everyone around her. His goal was to also protect Anna. Remember the phone conversation when someone was doing a prank about Anna doing an eating contest? I think that conversation explains Howard’s total devotion to Anna and explains how he was there to put himself between Anna and anyone trying to harm her. It seems to me that Howard was just about the only person who did love Anna and would do everything in his power to protect her from harm from anyone (including the media, so called friends and family, etc.). Howard usually looked happy when he was with Anna. I would like to see him happy again.

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Beverly
Sorry lady you know I care a great deal about you but two wrongs don’t make a right. No matter what or how mad you are…. to tell someone the day after their son died suddenly that “you deserve to die and go to hell with Daniel” Or to ask someone “how long did the dr. give you?”, THAT shows true character and Larry has been judged and found wanting in that dept. A right to anger doesn’t give anyone the right to “cut” someone else’s throat out of that anger. Larry belongs with the Topix bunch.

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Trina
I believe what she is saying is that QV, Havana, Kim and AD have admitted to be conspirators against VA and because of that then they should be held accountable and just because they are “cooperating” with VA doesn’t mean diddly. Look everywhere it mentions Rose being a conspirator it says “which she specifically DENIES.” At least that is the way I read it.

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JMA
As wrong as it was for Anna to try to keep Larry from having a part in his daughters life…. I can certainly see why she ran away to the Bahama’s and flicked him off her skin like a pesty gnat.

I am so pissed right now, I have to walk away.

DEAR KEN—–I more than you think,undersatand,what Rose is feeling,my heart is with your wife,and the pain she is going through,What I am trying to say is Larry.thank God is going the way of lashing out,and not the way Anna went,(booze and drugs)NO I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT HE WROTE,But neither do I want to be the one that will say anything unkind to someone who has fought hard to do the right thing.This is something Vergie could never get right,DO NOT PICK APART A PERSON,TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE REASON.The OQ Law Firm,and Vergie Arthur has damaged so many lifes,Vergie will NEVER be able to repair all the damage,I am sure God will take care of her,MEANWHILE,ALL the kids in the methadone program.and some were Larry age,NEEDED LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING,just like Anna needed and did not get,from mom,boyfriends are different ,a girl always needs mom,boys to,more so girls,THANK YOU KEN ALL IS FORGOTTEN,

Mary, what happened in the media after Daniel’s death, and up to and following ANS’ death, was neither right nor wrong. It was what it was. What occured on the internet happens all the time. Each time a story of public interest strikes a message board, posters start doing research. Posting what they have found. Making assumptions and giving opinions. This particular story was fueled by Virgie Arthur and her media appearances. And Virgie Arthur’s two-faced ways. Because Virgie Arthur is two-faced, imho. If TMZ saw a story and went with it, boo hoo. If Art Harris sided with HKS and what he saw as a smear campaign, then boo hoo. As far as websites such as QV’s and rosespeaks, it was just part of what the internet does when a story of public interest hits the internet. Virgie Arthur gave as good as she got, imo. There is no right or wrong, it is what it is.

Roxanne, read the document. Turner alleges, Turner’s opinion, Turner feels, did in fact, in fact did, did in fact, harm Plaintiff’s reputation. It matters not who Turner says “did in fact” do it. It was done according to Turner’s opinion and belief. I thought Rose said she would never admit that there was a conspiracy or that any defamation occurred. In this newest motion, Turner does in fact admit that a conspiracy existed ( and Turner also says that it is ONGOING) and that Virige Arthur was HARMED. Read it! I am sure that McCabe has.
jmo

trina, are you saying it didn’t harm her reputation?

Mary, Rose went waaaaaaaaaay beyond just obeying court orders. Judging by her own poll, which BTW I didn’t vote in, I’m not the only one who thinks Rose threw people under the bus. I also believe that is the opinion of the majority of the defendants.

Thank you Rose, I appreciate the reply.

Mary, NO, i do not think that what was spread across the internet about Virgie Arthur was morally wrong. I do not sit here with my morals at my fingertips. I sit with a reasonable opinion and enough curiosity to look into things myself. Now I do believe, from what I have seen and read, that what Virgie Arthur did to her daughter after daniel’s death was morally wrong. It went against everything a “mother” stands for, imho. I see the woman as mean-spirited, and I see the O’Q Law Firm as having ulterior motives for backing their client and the each talk out of both sides of their mouths. This is not about BLOGGERS!!!!! This is about ANS’ life and death for which we have no moral obligation. We are just in it for the discussion, I thought. If lines were crossed, then it is acceptable to me morally just as long as no diliberate lies were told. I have seen no lies written about Virgie Arthur, just the truth. HKS on the other hand, has had malicious, diliberate lies told about him and his relationship with Anna. This law suit is based on lies. Do you hear me Mary? This law suit is based on LIES! How moral is that? Or would that be considered evil?

Ann, the only ones who believe that are the ones who tried to put the blame on her. She outsmarted them and they are mad as hell. They tried to use her because they thought she was stupid and poor. That is why your comment upset me so much.

Trina, are you saying because VA took pictures at Daniels grave that QV and her group had the right to publish something that happened to her over 25 years ago and to put her in the baddest light possible?

I am so sorry this is making you feel so much passion and do realize what these type of woman do to us. Believe me I understand about this type of woman, VA personality type is not unique to this world. What she did to Anna was hurtful but like I have said before she had poor guidance and is ignorant IMO. If she knew better she would have done better.

This lawsuit is about using bloggers to make VA look bad. They should have used professionals and kept it in the courtroom. They used the cheap way out and look at the cost.

#86 Rose, thank you so much for that there grammar lesson, you crack me up!

Mary [99], I’m not sure whom you’re talking about. If it’s the lawyers, in my humble opinion, the only one Rose has outsmarted is herself.

Time will tell which one of us is right.

I am of the opinion that no “bloggers” were used.

#109
What did I miss? What did Babcock and Wood do to Rose?

Lizzie, the only thing I know that Babcock and Wood did to Rose is take her statement, and Wood asked Rose about whether McCabe discussed the Florida settlement with her. She said he had.

Oh yes, they also were trying to get to the bottom of any collusion with her and McCabe.

What meanies!!

Wouldn’t that be sweet for McCabe if Bonnie gets an adverse inference sanction. That would be better than the actual discovery, imho. I sure do see Lindsay going along with it. That would provide the link that McC needs between the “bloggers” and HKS. What a mess.

I also remember VA delayed the the burial by appealing the judge order 3 time may be that what angered Bonnie because they left her body at a very hot day .I also think VA and OQ and McCeep said bad thing in TV all the time about HS over and over.

Anyone up for chat – meet me there.

GOOD MORNING ALL—As I read the other site I could not help but have my first laugh of the day,as in all frivolous lawsuits,most everyone salavates over money they perceive,will be there’s.McCabe has a snowball change in hell,of getting Virgie any money,and the one thing he is supposed to be in court about is Virgie’s reputation,which with each stroke of judge Lindsay pen.is tearing apart,ripping to pieces,little by little Vergie:s reputation.As soon as Howard is cleared in CAL,all McCabe and Virgie’s dreams will fall apart,Vergie cut her own throat from the day Daniel died,WHY in hell would a grandmother call E.T. about a memorial service for her Grandson,WHY in hell would a mother,bring her own reporter to her daughter’s funeral,All any Attorney would have to do is pass to a jury pictures,of Vergie in front of Rita Cosby book,(Blonde Ambition) pictures of a smiling Vergie going back and forth to Daniel’s inquest,and Splash comments as to keep the family feud going AND LAST bring all the tabloid magazines and the public court record,for which the bloggers are accused of conspiracy.(my verdict) throw the NUT out.

Hmm, where do you read in my comment what was done to Stern was right? I asked if trina felt what QV and her groupies did to VA was morally right. I don’t think so but they disagree and apparently you do too.

Ann and Trina, Wood and Badcock played her. They interfered with an attempt at a settlement saying she was going to jail and the other used her statement alone to try to recuse a judge, it was ridiculous and it was a trick. And for Wood to use her statement all over the place putting the defendant in a position like that was creepy but I do understand that Howard seems to be the only person that matters so let’s just not consider what this is doing to everyone else.

116 + 117- As explained by Roxanne, there are many ways to enable a person. If you read the counts against Stern, you will see that they are trying to charge him for simply taking a message from a doctor or pharmacy. Yes Anna was head strong and it was her way or no way. I know that he would have never have gotten her to seek help on her own. The only way that might have forced her to seek help is if Daniel had talked to her about her drug problem. What Anna never realized is that children learn by example and NOT BY WORDS.

Now for Bonnie and the burial/funeral words. I have stated that I can understand that Bonnie was so frustrated about all the stuff that her brother was going through. However, on the day of the funeral was not the time nor the place to state anything negative towards virgie. It not only disrespected Howard but it also disrespected Anna and her memory. In my opinion.

*ay+way…. please excuse my spelling at times. I spilled coffee down into my keyboard and sometimes the keys stick. ;)

128. I take two sugars in my coffee and my keyboard somehow manage to get most of those two sugars.

DG – 125 “It not only disrespected Howard but it also disrespected Anna and her memory. In my opinion.”

I do see what you are saying…
BUT, in my opinion I might have said worse! I do not like to be disrespectful… This is what would have PUT ME OVER THE EDGE ALSO:

> The crap VA said in the Florida Courtroom about my brother on national TV (which later in FL under oath she (VA) had to confess she had no facts)

> The last minute appeal in the Bahamas where HKS was visibly torn & upset by the last minute APPEAL that VA did leaving ANS in the hot sun & disrupting her funeral procedure.

> STOMPING on her grave after shoveling all those shovels of dirt on top! (I think it was ANGER she didn’t get her way in FL, FL Appeal, and the Bahama’s Appeal personally.)

I think the Stern family who had accepted Anna into their lives and family because Howard loved her for over 12 years.. HAD ENOUGH! As I would have also.

131. I understand the anger and frustration that Howard’s family had. I understand that you might have said worse. Now this is my opinion only, sometimes one has to bite their tongue for the benefit of another. Let me ask you this, do you think that it helped Howard to see his sister so upset or did it hurt him more that what he was already going through?

Who said Bonnie said? Wasn’t it Ms Rita Cosby????

http://splashnewsonline.celebuzz.com/2007/03/howard-k-sterns-sister-jumps-to-his-defense.html

According to this article Bonnie said to Virgie “You make me sick”. Not really nasty but uncalled for at the funeral IMO. Yes, I know Splash was a friend’s of virgies.

Mary [123]

I thought that’s what you meant. I think you need to read the documents or read them again if you already have. Even Rose said in her statement that McCabe kept on moving the “goal posts” as she put it. One thing he was demanding of her is that she admit that she was part of a conspiracy as a contingency for settlement. She refused to do that. So unless you have information that Rose changed her mind and was going to admit to conspiracy, there was no settlement in the offering. It’s very clear from the emails that McCabe was playing Rose. How do I know that? Because he made the terms of settlement open ended. If he had been on the up and up with her, he would have told her from the start exactly what he required from her and would have let her decide if she wanted to agree to it or not. It’s very doubtful that he ever intended to settle with her. HE was the one using her not Babcock and Wood.

There was no tricking of Rose by Babcock and Wood. If you have read Art Harris’ Objection to Rose’s motion, you know that collusion is back on the table now that Rose has re-filed it. You would also see that in the Objection what legally constitutes “collusion” is defined. Are you taking McCabe’s word for it that it wasn’t? Gee, I wonder why he would say that. Any guesses?

Wood had every right to follow up on anything Rose said in her statement that affected this suit or any other suit Howard is/was involved in. What in the world makes you think he doesn’t have that right?

Ken it’s [123]

Mary #123
I am not understanding. What settlement? I thought that once Rose filed the motion designating 3rd parties then she was in the suit to the bitter end. Plus, the statement she gave to Babcock and Wood was voluntary, and why wouldn’t they use it to their advantage wherever they could?

Mary, I simply don’t agree. Collusion was and is an issue. As I pointed out, according to Rose herself at the time that she would not agree to one of the terms for settlement so no one could have interfered with an agreement that never happened.

What makes you belief collusion was/is a non issue? What is your legal basis for saying that.

It’s amazing to me how you defend McCabe and his tactics.

Wood was not going on Rose’s statement alone. He got stonewalled in getting the email from Wise. If Lindsay had been recused, you would have been jumping with glee. She should have been recused IMO. If the court system there wasn’t so corrupt, she would have been

There is NO ONE in this suit that behaves more unprofessionally than McCabe. He filings are disgraceful tantrums of name calling. It’s hard to believe he was ever a law professor with his gutter-like tactics.

But even Rose now says that she will not be getting out of this lawsuit at all due to filing that motion, and everything I have read says that Rose will not admit either conspiracy or defamation, and I see no other way she will get out.
Are you now saying that they would not accommodate Rose for the amount of breaks she needed to take? I still don’t see that as relevant. It was a voluntary statement.

Two questions I have are:

Now that Rose has file the motion for leave again, is she going to the hearing to argue it herself?

What exactly does Rose think is going to happen now that she’s re-filed it? What are her expectations?

Mary, not all lawyers operate like McCabe does. I would have never participated in an open ended agreement like that.

JMA [146]

Their snooping has no limits or boundaries. I think they’re Googaholics. And it never stops. Three minutes after Eric Dick’s name was mentioned, they had his freaking blood type!

Having been a victim of their online assault on a person’s reasonable expectation of privacy, I firmly believe the only way for it to stop is through the Courts. My idea of justice would be an order forbidding them from using their computers for a year. They would have to be sued first, of course, which I cannot comment on whether something like that is happening.

I can’t continue this right now. I have things I’ve got to do. But I’d sure be interested in the answers to my questions in post 151.

165. I guess we get google alerts because we are posting about the subject. Let me save them some trouble. I do not live in Texas. Adding me to your lawsuit will not help you in any way, shape or form. It is none of your business if or where I work. It is none of your business if I am married, single or whatever. I sincerely hope that helps whomever keeps googling my nickname. ;)

PS– Doctors do worry about pts finanical status,If a pt is upset,UP goes the blood pressure,and many other ailments.

#150 “The fact still remains the same on what Wood did, he was unprepared.”
MAN! I so totally DISAGREE! In my opinion any other county and any other State would have looked closer at what Wood submitted for the Recusal and at least ‘looked’ into it!
HAVE YOU talked to the Judge that denied it??? In my opinion YOU ARE SO VERY WRONG STATING; “The fact…” It is not a fact that I saw.
* Did I miss reading where it is proven a fact he was unprepared?

The rest is just crazy in my opinion. “…lead her into perjury…” BS
Also that is a big help to the defendants. NOT!
Never mind, just ridiculous.

Beth, sorry you disagree but IMO he came to court unprepared. A statement from a defendant IMO is considered unprepared. I understand his circumstances but regardless it is considered unprepared.

Appreciate what you stated Ken;
“I’m not saying LW is not a competent lawyer, I just think this particular judge and such is so out there in her own world and following her own laws that it’s not that easy to be prepared for such as this, especially when you don’t get a playbook of the laws she follows and so are left guessing.”

BUT, I am NOT talking about TL, she is not the Judge that heard the Recusal.

In Response to the Court from HKS to Plaintiff’s Motion for Sanctions… pg. 9
“The mere allegation of ex-parte communications ex-parte communications between a judge and counsel–even if denied–warrants recusal.”
“U.S. v. Furst, 886 F2d 558, 582-83…”

* It requires Recusal! What that other comment was stating was that it was a FACT that Olen (?) Olsen Judge stated he was unprepared!
I DID NOT READ THAT, did I miss it?
I am saying that the Recusal Judge did not even take a damn second to question TL, the Judge she GOT the case from
(at whose request – I wonder?) or TL & McC! IT was a SHAME of a hearing IMO! (Just another one in this case – yet in a different Courtroom)

That is OK, I am grateful for you taking the time… some of what you said I do agree with… especially the part of TL not seeming to follow the law.

That was just ONE I refuse to scroll by as I am ASKING:
PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE THE RECUSAL WAS DENIED DUE TO LW NOT BEING PREPARED. I did not read that so to me it is NO FACT.
IT IS NOT IN ANY MOTION OR FILILING THAT I HAVE READ.
Did I miss it? If not, then > IT IS NOT A FACT!

Messed up on the statement, sorry.
“…that Olen (?) Olsen Judge stated he was unprepared!” (I cannot remember that guy’s name! He was the Administrative Judge though)

* It stated > “The fact still remains the same on what Wood did, he was unprepared.”

I had erased some and after submitting, it misread what I meant…

It is OK, it just… well you know! ;) > never mind!

Wise admitted there was an email. That is not the issue.

trina, could you please let me know where to verify this information as there is so many tales out there it’s very difficult to discern truth from fiction. We can not just take Woods word on this.

Ann, my point is not about “Monday morning quarterbacking” it is about professionalism and being prepared. I don’t know any attorney that would do what Wood did without making sure he has all his ducks in a row. He should have had those emails first then proceeded forward. God we might as well start calling ourselves team stupid with Wood leading this pack.

Yes it is about Monday morning quarterbacking. Hell, as far as professionism goes, Woods filings are articulate and clear and are a pleasure to read. McCabe looks like a raving loony in his filings.

Mary, you don’t know enough to say what any other lawyer would have done. And if IIRC correctly others joined the motion. Please stop acting as if you have an expertise you don’t have.

Apparently McCabe didn’t respect the privacy of those emails you did give him since some have been circulated by the dark side, He apparently passed them out to them for their amusement.

Ann, whatever attorney joined Wood in that motion then they were stupid too IMO.
It was outrageous behavior in my opinion and for an officer of the court to make such a serious accusation against a judge and to go into court before having all the evidence shows lack of professionalism.

My point Ken is that it is an assumption on your part and only that. I don’t claim any inside knowledge. It just appears to me like the AJ and and the county attorney were protecting Lindsay. If you recall the AJ never reponded to Wood’s motion about the transfer even though he was required to within I think it was 3 days. Wise was just covering his own butt because the transfer was inappropriate.

Oh boy, here we go again.

Hold on here… 199
Ask Rose to reference an email to me awhile back… This should have been reigned in BEFORE this crap started again
It is enough to make every word you used in that last post about me too then!
DAMN IT I am not the only one!

* Do you not read the ‘BAITING’ in those nonsensical posts??????????????????????????

Typing Badcock instead of Babcock several times…
191 “We can not just take Woods word on this.”
> Yet, we read an opinion that states that opinion as a FACT of why something happened in a Court?
193 “God we might as well start calling ourselves team stupid with Wood leading this pack.”
(&) other posts before that!
DAMN! I honestly think that this is being done on purpose! Not just this issue! Every place a different issue, where ever the place is – it is left with mayhem!
I just cannot figure out if it is being done purposefully or because certain people need the disorder or want everyone to be aware of same. I was trying to be a bit cryptic as not to harshly offend, that last one I know what I mean yet will not be able to be clearer.
I have a feeling YOU are too close to SEE this baiting!!!

I happen to agree with Ann. Woods filings are better by far then McCabe’s.

McCabe rants with his filings and they are far from great. Usually he attaches no ruling to support any of his motions. I am very surprised that some that into law are still supporting McCabe at all.

They say it is in the Harris County documents. I tried looking but didn’t find it. Maybe you can. Suppose to be exhibits as far as I can tell.

OK Ken, Thanks. I swear I do try not to get so mad at certain statements! They are just so no needed to be put that way! IMO

185 > Yes, I do agree it that they should have stuck with the first Administrative Judge assigned… I believe the reason for them asking for another had to do with a law. I am sure that they had no idea that everyone from the clerk’s office to the first original Judge all the way up to the top Administrative Judge was going to just deny the Recusal without a proper review or by any prior similar case that has set precedence.

*so not* instead of “so no” > I was not referencing your statements Ken that seem to be causing havoc.

Forget 207 It does not matter, there appears to be no solution.

Have a good evening everyone.

Beth, I will leave the board and my opinions to myself. I don’t want to upset you. You are far more valuable to the discussion then my silly opinions.

216. Thanks. Amazing what they find to complain about isn’t it?

Was able to have a good conversation about my opinion today.

You have to realize when I make comments I look at things from a layperson’s point of view. I don’t try to upset anyone and the reason I ask questions is to form a better opinion.

However after learning O’Q was in the courtroom, Wood thought he had the email, he got sandbagged, will reconsider my opinion about the hearing. Did not realize he thought he had the emails. Do still wish he would have had them and my point today was more about him not having them.

Do understand Linsey should have rescued herself due to the appearance of impropriety but that wasn’t the point I was trying to make

My misspelling babcocks name was not intentional.

I, I, I, I…..

I just want to remind everyone we are all adults here and maybe some of us need to step back and take a deep breath before this conversation goes way off into left field. Opinions and frustrations are running deep and the stress of everyday life joined with the crazy unbelievable crap that goes on in this case is enough to make anyone jumpy. Life is to short, as I have been so reminded of in the last couple of weeks.

Sorry, no comment

With this Judge who apparently dose not care if she applies the rule of law and or reason in her decisions, Who knows maybe this goes way deeper then any of us know, maybe she owes favors, maybe she is just a puppet on the string and she could careless how her reputation precedes her. I feel that this will go all the way to trial and most certainly be overturned on appeal and this Judge will not have a legacy to be proud of imo.

to me when you enable a person is by giving her the money or by be the one in charge and buying it for her but my problem is the doctor wrote the medication and they order it for her not HS she was on medication way before HS came to her life the last time Anna OD before she knew HS why blame him for what the doctor order she must needed it This problem is all over in all age kind .HS was not her dad husband Anna was strong woman she control HS not the other way .

239 +240 I understand your point, believe me I do. The doctors did write the prescriptions as far as we know, but the question remains what are the reasons that any medicine was put into Stern’s name for Anna’s use? (I have already listed several possible reasons in prior postings) According to the charges filed, Stern also took messages from doctors, picked up her prescriptions and (Lord forbid) used her money to pay for it! OK that last one was sarcastic.

One of the things that we are saying is that IF these charges stick against Stern and in some way he had fines and jail time, yes you might be able to get charge by talking to your hubby’s doctor, picking up your hubby’s prescriptions. These are outlandish charges against him.

We know that Anna would have still have found a way to get her scripts. But at least she would have done it all on her own. The one thing that does bother me, Stern has been charged. What about Moe and the SC crew? That package that Moe received from a pharmacy and gave to Stern or Anna, that makes him an enabler also? The SC crew flew Anna in along with her drugs. People there doled out her medicines, that makes them enablers also. They should also be charged. There is a video where virgie herself gives her daughter “stress medicine”. That makes her enabler. Now come on here again is the double standard.

Hmm, Do apologize for misunderstanding your comment.

Gonna make a comment and take more time off, not wanting to be arguing all the time.

When looking at what happen yesterday my point was how each attorney looks out for their client with no regards to others, simply don’t like the way the system works.

Rose is doing a great job representing herself and I thank the Lord above she is in her own fold taking care of herself.

Sorry my feelings of how stupid the team is looking to the public hurt some and my feelings of wanting to get past the anger towards VA frustrate others.

Done apologizing feeling done enough of that for my opinions to last me a life time.

Beth, you are constantly misrepresenting me and your hate towards me is out of control and unjust. Because you don’t agree with my opinions gives no person the right to talk to them like that. Having said that you are more valued here so you now have the Anna thread.

245. You just can’t let things drop? Beth did not address you again after last night reply that you left. Let me put it this way. It would be MY attoney’s job to look at for ME, not any of the others involved. I hired him, I have to pay him, the others do not. He would be MY lawyer. That is the system. Is it perfect? Nope but it works better than most justice systems in the world.

Ken, my comment means she is more valued as offers the board legal information. Nothing more. I understand she is and that my opinions are upsetting the board. This has been going on for a long time between the two of us. It’s all cool, yes she hurt my feelings but I also understand board etiquette.

Oh my lord. I have a damn headache, my blood pressure is up and I might explode.

JMA- JB might know what was shipped to Fl because drugs were in Stern’s name. But he really can’t do anything to anyone in another state. I do think that this might become a valuable thing to know JUST IN CASE. I didn’t like Moe’s or Taz’s story from the beginning and I certainly do not believe a word that either says now due to the changing to suit themselves storyline. IMO, they are already tainted witnesses because somehow they lied somewhere in this story. Which story is the truth? I think the court states when a witness lies, you can take the remaining of his testimony as tainted. IIRC, this was one of the things that helped OJ get off with the murder charges. Other things that came into play is IF ANYONE got paid.

Regarding the charges against Howard, since they as using H&S codes and Business Codes that apply to medical practitioners and pharmacists, I believe that the only way they could charge him is to claim he conspired with the doctors to violate those codes. To me that is really flimsy and reaching and IMO it reveals an agenda. I’d be interested in knowing whether anyone else in CA has ever been charged the way that Howard is being charge.

As far as giving meds to an addict, I think Sadow is saying that under the codes, Anna would not be classified as an addict. Under the code someone is not considered an addict if there are medical reasons for them. That would mean a review of Anna’s medical records and her diagnosis and treatment.

The other issue is the meds in his name. I haven’t read the charges for a while, but I thought only the doctors were charged with that. I don’t know of any law about ALLOWING them to be put in your name. If you read the charges they say repeatedly that the med was “intended for Anna Nicole Smith” even though an alias was used. That says to me that there was that documentation in the records.

JMA—You said it all.Yor children and your husband are your entire world.That says everything.

DG – “I think Stern tried to control any medicine that Anna took.” What you stated seems right on to me also, from the very beginning of learning about the different meds.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2009/mar/13/anna-nicole-smiths-boyfriend-doctors-charged/

~ I understand this part:

> “ Her attorney, Adam Braun, acknowledged she wrote some of the prescriptions using fictitious names for Smith, but it wasn’t intended to commit fraud.
“It was done for privacy reasons,” Braun told The Associated Press. “She did the best she could under difficult circumstances in the best interest of the patient.” “

~ This (the amount) is where they might have some trouble explaining:

> “These individuals repeatedly and excessively furnished thousands of prescription pills to Anna Nicole Smith, often for no legitimate medical purpose,”

* The only thing that sticks with me after reading is the Doctors, especially Dr. E appeared to be trying to find the right combination for Anna. There probably is still information even the AG JB does not know about Anna’s physical aches and pains. Not excusing anything, it is just I strongly believe in Dr. Perper’s autopsy. The medicine ANS had in her was at therapeutic levels. Wonder if this would have even happened if she had not been so sick, w/ the high temperature and other issues? Honestly, celebrity or not – (scared about getting served by Opri because she was in the US or not) She (Anna) should NOT have refused to go to the hospital. There is nothing that either doctor or HKS (who does have faults – like me and everyone else in the world) has done that will ever make me think or believe these scripts were written for the ending result of harm to Anna.

** This is the ’reason’ that was peddled by the TX team! DC spent how much time? Going to ’ALL’ sides… DO, LB. RC. Nannies, FL DOJ, CA DOJ, GOD knows who else to PUSH the story line that these actions were done on purpose with some kind of intent! Ridiculous!

I do not think any big convictions will come out of CA, they will not find any intent to harm IMO. Though the doctors may get in trouble for the ‘amount’ ordered and the ‘combination’. Regarding HKS name on the script, if he gets in trouble for that then they would have to go after every other public person that does it. How many hospital employees have been fired for selling patient’s personal info? How many politicians have done same. Look at Rush Limbaugh, he resorted to getting it off the streets to keep his privacy – not that it did him any good. [Oh! I think that man (Rush) is over the line on everything he says! ;) ]

Further in same article:
“the powerful sleeping aid chloral hydrate — blamed with tipping the balance in the toxic mix of drugs and causing her death.”
DO NOT agree with that quote, according to the autopsy (by an individual (professional) with NOTHING to gain – plus had the world watching so I am sure took measures to get it right…) Said “therapeutic” levels of the other scripts.

This is one of those things that can be debated forever without a clear conclusion that anyone will agree on or compromise to. JMO

4 comments from OSITO:

http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/13/howard-k-stern-2-docs-were-not-guilty/66#comments

“Then you have the addition of QV and others; they imagined that they were working for HKS (and directed by him to do something after-the-fact that he never needed done before-the-fact) then later imagined a conspiracy to do something that never happened. QV and the others no more defamed or conspired to defame VA than any other person named in VA’s phoney lawsuit. Adding them does create the possibility for a great deal of comedy however; McCabe trying to explain why the self-confessed defamers and conspirators couldn’t possibly be responsible third-parties should RT be found liable. In McCabe’s parallel universe, QV and the others would have to be regarded as the most liable of all.”
“Posted at 12:14AM on Jun 16th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
* (Now that statement had me in tears!)

“TS also offers an excellent challenge to Judge Lindsay. The Judge just needs to subpoena third-party email providers if she feels the information that would be gathered is that important to her work deciding this case. What’s that … no legal basis for such subpoenas? Bummer, huh?”
“Posted at 12:54AM on Jun 16th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”

Good reading for sure!
BBL — Have a great day everyone!

I don’t think McCabe will have to explain why he named some bloggers and not others. We all know that the ONLY reason that Rose, Lyndal, and Butterfly were named is that they live in Texas and he’s using them to get jurisdiction in Texas state court. If QV and the others lived in Texas, they would be the defendants. McCabe is only going to use those who help his case and can use them as he wants. I mean after all neither Rose of McCabe has mentioned Jane Devin, who probably said the most about Virgie. Why is Devin getting a pass if the issue really is alleged defamation and not other agendas?

Ann? Why do you think McCabe was so against this lawsuit being held in federal court?

Correction (2) posts as two were repeated… hard as heck sometimes to get a comment to submit.

271, maybe McC will not be made to explain about the confessed bloggers. But under the tort laws if any are found libel than all will have a (%) determined in another hearing at ‘how much’. Is the way it read to me anyway. Could be off a bit, as the civil codes throw me at times.
* Honestly in my heart cannot see (even w/ this county, this courtroom, this judge) the jury ruling on a ‘direct finding’ of conspiracy to defame. (due to there not being one)
If so, it would be as Rose stated; won in appeals.

>> I truly want to see McC/VA state clearly what the hell that woman has lost…
>> WTH does that woman thinks she has lost is worth?

Bottom line in my way of thinking the State case was brought only to cause harm to HKS, his family.
That seems to have been done. Also, maybe it was brought to keep HKS busy paying lawyers until ‘someone’ took TX up on their criminal theories.
Who knows? It is just one of the most bizarre cases ever – imo!

Interesting about JD… being she did publish on the net in that timeframe that is in question…
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Agree with the firm having more pull with the elected Judges in State Courts.

* My personal theory on ‘even McC did not want it in TL’s Court…’ I honestly think that filing to stop the transfer was planned, to go back and say see why would I have filed this if I was in cahoots?… Yet! Just wonder how much McC really knew about the personal email to Judge Wise? Was that email requested of TL to get the case? Just for the mere points of ANY of this being in question – by anyone => should have it removed to a Federal Court. jmho on that one.

Just a note~ the extra room at the Hardrock was Dr E’s. When she left Moe used it.

Thanks Trina

Diversity Jurisdiction
Federal law also authorizes federal courts to hear cases where the opposing parties are citizens of different states. This is known as “diversity jurisdiction”, because the plaintiff and the defendant have different, or diverse, state citizenships. “Diversity jurisdiction” enables a federal court to hear cases where there is not a federal question. In diversity cases, the federal court provides a fair forum where citizens of different states can have their cases heard…

For a federal court to exercise diversity jurisdiction, there must be “complete” diversity between the parties. For example, if a citizen of Georgia filed a lawsuit in federal court suing three defendants — a citizen of Mississippi, a citizen of Alabama, and a citizen in Georgia — the federal court would not have jurisdiction. Because there would be citizens of Georgia on both sides of the lawsuit, there would not be complete diversity between the plaintiff and all of the defendants.
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For a case to stay in the state court the plaintiff and at least one defendant have to both reside in that state or have bussiness in that state. If there are no defendants with residence or business in the state, the suit can be moved to federal court.

Sammy,
Great info! I am thinking that they will go by the date of when the lawsuit was filed. After glancing at the Texas Civil Codes I got the impression there is no statute on adding people who were also ‘active’ in the allegations of the plaintiff. If those ‘active actions’ were done in the ‘timeframe’ – I do not think they are barred from becoming some of the ‘responsible’ parties if this case with no merit continues. Of course, I am not 100 percent sure on that one, nor (LOL) am I sure what the heck that Judge TL will or will not accept! ;) She seems to make her laws up as she goes….

If the doctor wrote a prescription to any person he or she must needed it or why giving to a person the doctor know it was for Anna so why point the finger just at HS he did not order it he did not order the doctor to give it to her he did not pay for it he did not say to Anna you should take and also he was not in control of her and from 98 she never OD that was different her son died he was her life and just had a baby could not that be enough to drive her crazy I know lot of people OD and that is not good .But do not go after a guy have no reason to hurt her he the only one suffer and her daughter.If they want to put some one in jail it should be for a good reason not just to write a book or go in TV or for election time .

TV

Mary I am sorry I jumped on you also I just thought you took what I said the wrong way,No ones personal information needed to be out out on any of these pro HKS or Pro VA sites or TMZ for that matter .I just get upset when it seems as if the dark side is getting away with everything under the sun and the other side nothing