Deadly Blow by Bonnie Stern to Texas Case?
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You have to just say why? Why would anyone try to hide something so simple to be able to be discovered from the Special Master of the Court, Craig Ball, in the Houston District Court case of Virgie Arthur vs. Howard K. Stern, Larry Birkhead, Art Harris – CBS, TMZ, Harvey Levin, Bonnie Stern and the three Texas bloggers?
Sometimes you just can’t help but feel as if we were all perched on the Titanic and just one person’s actions could throw the whole sync off and began a domino effect that will likely engulf so many and leave not one defendant unblemished by this.
Before any one says Craig Ball was “bought off”, NOPE, could not happen, he was picked by the Defendants previous lawyer, one last “gift” before filing to Withdraw on January 2, 2009.
Those of us who had turned over everything 9 to 12 feet of printed out pages over so many months to show we had nothing to hide, will now end up with our computers having to be turned over to just prove we did in fact not withhold any documents, did not hide anything.
To say I am physically ill over this is an understatement. That one person could have tried to delete some personal files and as the Special Master, Mr. Ball has said might well have cleared us all and now could sink the whole suit; now put every defendant in this suit in such a bad light.
Many of us have been dealing with this knowledge since midnight last Thursday, so no it NOT always about getting the head start or the scoop on another web site; some times it is just what it looks like, nothing more or less.
I have not talked to any of the other co-defendants in this case, but to say there are no words to express how I feel, as I would think many others feel today, it is heartbreaking, that something so stupid could reach out and affect so many of us with a heavy cloud of suspicion now.
There is a heaviness in the air today that seems so engulfing as to take the breeze out of the brightest of days and to be so stifling that you feel you cannot catch your breath. You see it in the emails falling into my email box from different lawyers from all sides.
To those of you who are naysayers, with so many bad things to say about me, the only thing that motivated me was to keep each of your right to blog anonymously guaranteed.
Does it mean that I think Howard K. Stern murdered or facilitated the death of anyone, NOPE, just does not add up. But what a heavy heart we all have today.
June 9, 2009 Scott Bly Declaration part one of two parts. This is the declaration of Bonnie Stern’s IT person in detailing how he did back up images of all of the hard drives the precautions as well as the mistakes he made during the backing up of the hard drives. He points out there are images of the hard drives and also a virtual server which would also have the back up information the Court Ordered to be turned over to Craig Ball.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2083.
June 9, 2009 Scott Bly Declaration part two of two parts. This is the declaration of Bonnie Stern’s IT person in detailing how he did back up images of all of the hard drives the precautions as well as the mistakes he made during the backing up of the hard drives. He points out there are images of the hard drives and also a virtual server which would also have the back up information the Court Ordered to be turned over to Craig Ball. He further now states if I understand this that there are at least 2 if not 3 copies available of this information still. Since the exhibits recovered are those that exonerate Bonnie Stern instead of implicate her in something nefarious, thus the question of who, when and why, Mmmmmmmmm could those chat logs from April 18 and 19, 2007 perhaps show some “light” pardon the pun, on all of this?
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2084.
Let’s remember also that Craig Ball operates blindly for a reason, what he does not know does not impact his findings. Thus he has no idea how those 40 names got on the list any more then most of us do. I do remember our first lawyer telling us to image our hard drives ASAP to protect the integrity. I think both the Special Master Mr. Ball as well as the simple and straightforward recounting by Mr. Bly, only accentuate how easy it is to break into computers, sites etc. Remember now how many times three sites under our control have has now been compromised since April 2007. One has to wonder who had the most to gain by this, and I am NOT saying it is Arthur’s lawyers, but perhaps something that they did not realize. Words and food for thought in all of this.
By the way when I said I had been sick since reading the first email at midnight on Thursday, I mean that literally, I came to the computer yesterday to get this article and documents up ONLY after learning they were up with nefarious comments on two other sites. Here we ask, we don’t tell, and we encourage you our readers to find your own answers. By doing so we are all better educated then we were before, in my not so humble opinion.
Let me finally add there is SO MUCH MORE going on behind the scenes that none of you know nor can we ever write about, suffice it to say for the first time in my life I truly understand the term, “armchair quarterbacking” as applied to my favorite sport of football.
I would also hope that someone like Mr. Bly will explain these things to a jury, even as non tech as I am, this makes some sense to be with straightforward terms, and a beautiful assumption at taking someone at their word when it would have been easier to have assume, Mr. Bly was being highly insulted by Mr. Ball, a lesson well learned and one I hope remains with me.
More documents will be added to this case as the day goes along, right now is just not the time.
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That would be a real big HUH???
This is just another bump in the road.
Bonnie is under immense pressure and seeing all she has worked for being made into crap.
I can understand why she did it and can understand that now you have to give more to prove no conspiracy.
But they are still fishing and that is so obvious they have no smoking gun. Maybe even the court will say enough you don’t have the goods.
Personal files are just that personal and not like a lot of trust is involved here..
I know I just had surgery and the meds. I am taking are making me a little slow but I don’t get it. Bonnie deleted personal files from her hard drive? Why would that be a problem if they were personal or business related? I didn’t think that those had any bearings on the case and had not been ordered turned over. That would be like me deleting personal letters that had been typed on the computer and stuck into a file for future reference and me having to turn over a hard drive for some reason and erasing those files so they didn’t fall into the lap of someone who has no business reading them. I thought a forensic computer dude was supposed to be able to pull those files anyway even if they had been deleted. So, if he can do that then what’s the big deal? He could pull them off anyway and look at them and determine they have nothing to do with the case and that’s that. No biggie right? Am I wrong about that or is this med. messing with me more than I realize?
IMO no one owes them anything. This whole case is STUPID! Adding Bloggers in order to make a case is STUPID! Even if things were not removed from Bonnie’s computer and Ball did not find anything of significant McCabe would have tried to say the proof was removed. IMO it is a no win situation with this man.
Beth said it best when she said McCabe suffers from OCD
ROXANNE–Glad you are home from your surgery,(NO PLACE LIKE HOME)Ihope you do not do what I did,DO NOT take a pain pill and do housework,I took my pill and proceeded to clean cook,and do food shopping,I AM GLAD YOU HAVE SOMEONE WITH YOU.I cannot understand why Bonnie doing what she did would interfere with anyone else,Rose you turned everything in,what the hell more do they want,whatever Bonnie did is her responsibilty,THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT AS CRAZY AS IT CAN GET,
Just reading the report and WOW. Why would Bonnie or anyone try to destroy evidence. Did you ladies see the emails at the end of that report that shows “conspiracy?” They are between Kimmie, QV and Havana and are forwarded copies sent to Bonnie. It says plain as day in black and white that the ones who researched and wrote the Step-brother article were…. Kim, Mish, Gem, QV, Havana and some others. It says NOTHING about THERESA, ROSE OR LYNDAL OR even BONNIE for that matter. They seem to clear all the “bloggers” in the suit and Bonnie. I don’t understand destroying that kind of stuff. Doesn’t make much sense. I do see the reason they WILL be going after everyone’s hard drives now.
Bev
Thanks lady. No, I’m not doing housework. Surgery went well. Everything contained and we will get the results back on the lymph nodes hopefully by tomorrow but not expecting anything. Caught very early THANK GOD.
oops didn’t read down far enough…. forgot to add JANE asking everyone to copy her article and mail it out? WOW. Why get rid of that kind of stuff. I just don’t understand it.
Roxanne [6] I saw the same thing, they were forwarded to Bonnie, yes shows it was QV, Havana, Kim, Mish, and Gem, and yes Jane asking for her article to be sent off.
I forgot to ask earlier how you were feeling, my bad :-( Glad everything came out good.
good article re Howard and his court cases.
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While Howard K. Stern is awaiting trial in connection with charges that he improperly assisted his former client and girlfriend, Anna Nicole Smith, in obtaining drugs which prosecutors say contributed to her death, he also is juggling other litigation, including a defamation lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court which he filed against two individuals whom Stern alleges were the sources for many of the statements at issue in another defamation suit Stern has filed against reporter Rita Crosby. The Crosby suit is pending in New York.
Although the other law suits filed by Stern for defamation are only civil lawsuits, meaning that they have been brought by a private individual (Stern) against other individuals and the court, at most, has the power to enter a monetary judgment against the defendants as opposed to imposing a prison sentence or other criminal sanctions, the civil lawsuits filed by Stern may impact issues other than just money.
Indeed, in court documents filed in the Los Angeles civil case, Stern has stated under penalty of perjury that “Mark Speer’s accusation to the effect that I drugged Anna is absolutely false. I never facilitated or promoted any type of drug use, prescription or otherwise. Anna was an intelligent, strong-willed individual, who made her own decisions and was not controlled by anyone or anything.”
In the complaint filed by Stern, he alleges that “The Chief Medical Examiner investigating Anna’s death determined that the cause of her death was an accident…” Stern also alleges in the suit, which was filed well before he was charged criminally in the Smith affair, “At no times were any criminal charges filed against any person in connection with Anna’s death.”
The suit pending in the Los Angeles Superior Court was filed by Stern on September 2, 2008 and a jury trial is scheduled to commence on January, 25, 2010. In the defamation lawsuit, Stern has named as defendants Mark Speer and Jacqueline Elizabeth Hatten whom Stern alleges, according to court documents, knew that reporter Rita Crosby was writing a book and that they were the sources for many of what Stern labels “false and defamatory statements” contained in the book that Crosby wrote. Crosby’s book is entitled, “Blonde Ambition: The Untold Story Behind Anna Nicole Smith’s Death”.
In the Los Angeles suit, Stern alleges that Speer is a long time friend of Deborah Opri who is an attorney who represented Larry Birkhead in connection with the paternity suit involving the child whom Stern initially said was his. In court documents, Stern alleges that Opri blames Stern for the “breakdown” in the relationship between her and Birkhead. However, in a written declaration submitted to the court, Speer said that although he had known Opri since the “mid-nineties,” that “…she was not a long-time friend, nor did I socialize with her.” Speer has also denied other allegations made against him by Stern.
Many of the alleged representations which are at issue in the Stern civil suits are explosive and embarrassing to Stern. It is too early to tell whether these suits will benefit Stern in the way that they were designed to upon being filed. A motion by the defendants to dismiss the case has been denied by the court.
However, many legal analysts will tell you that while a defendant is embroiled in a criminal action, as a defendant, he has to be very careful about what he says or alleges in any other action-criminal or civil. Stern, however, has waged a very aggressive defense in connection with the criminal charges against him, and does not show any signs that he will slow down his efforts to win an acquittal in criminal court and obtain monetary relief in civil court.
also thinking about the spoilation…..he has lost Lyndals computer due to theft, Butterflys due to possibly unknown circumstances, now most of Bonnies.
Is this going to impact on the evidence chain by much ???
#4 > LOL You have that right JMA!
** IT WAS THE TWO STAR WITNESSES OF McC’S WHO SHOULD BE LOOKED AT!
#6 > Roxanne YES! *That is the ONLY coordinated effort there was! LOL > NO WONDER qv is on hiatus!
* Only half way through reading this…
I did notice on the first glance at all the pages this: “Pg. 9 “EXHIBIT A: Item Deleted from Bonnie Harris HP Laptop 2…” BONNIE HARRIS?
I also see that the morons at Topix are saying she needs to go to Jail! CRAZY! What idiots! They have defamed Bonnie, the bloggers and HKS more than anyone on the net who stated their opinions of that person > “I just want to be a Grandma” IMO anyway!
Bonnie, Lyn, Rose, even Art DID NOT PUBLISH any defamatory statements like TMZ and Perez Hilton! Why isn’t Perez listed as a defendant?
So what if they had 15 or 100 people researching the net for info? That is not a conspiracy that is a bunch of people looking up public information open to all. The same exact thing that TX law firm was doing on LB and HKS!
This report so far reads like McC’s rhetoric, I am not so sure this was any gift… > in reference to the article.
Pg. 7 “ I identified evidence of several undisclosed and unproduced storage devices used during the interval from May 6, 2008 through May 19, 2008, as follows: …” (10 listings)
WHAT? My kids all have keys (storage devices) I bet those are from her people that she does books for. I believe the wording and accusations are too self-opinionated in this report! What does this dumb ass court and judge in TX want all of her customer’s storage devices too? This is beyond crazy and wrong. I do not care if she deleted or wiped out anything! That court should not have been so broad in their scoop of what they wanted. I would like to see McC’s and the O’Quinn law firms files and emails to see how much contact they had with this guy or the previous lawyer for the defendants! Why did that guy quit again? I would like to know the truth behind that story.
Say the people that she does books for brought their info on ‘keys’ for her to download… that does not mean those storage devices belong to her! The words of accusation sound just like the Texas cabal in their false allegations of all of the defendants!
Hell, with a STUPID OVERBROAD ORDER from a sleeping Judge that does everything that law firm in Texas wants… then I would not blame anyone for getting rid of personal info! What if she was seeing someone and did not want anyone to know? Hell! What did that nut say in Court? I don’t care if it is a birthday card or private stuff between the family… Ridiculous!
Bonnie should not have to do anything further for this STUPID OVERBROAD ORDER!
What needs to happen next is the Appellate Judges need to put McC and that Judge in front of the Law Review Board for twisting the law and not properly getting jurisdiction before any orders were issued in the first place!
Some of those nutcases on Topix are saying that the defendants better pay up to VA…
NONSENSE! They did not publish anything, TNZ did, it was the truth.
VA lost nothing do to these peoples opinions on what they found on the net.
This case is HOGWASH, and should have never been opened in the first place!
Topix people, you have defamed the bloggers, and each and every defendant in this case!
So does that mean you have all been in a conspiracy too? See? It is the same thing!
THERE WAS NO CONSPIRACY TO DEFAME THAT AWFUL WOMAN!
Only a few getting together to see what they could find out on public forums, it was nothing like the detailed conspiracy that the TX Law Firm people were in with VA, DC, WV, DO RC, MS, JH ect….
Bonnie, her brother, the bloggers and LB, even AH have not published anything like TMZ and Perez did.
These defendants should not be in this case! Why are they? REVENGE from the TX Law Firm — That is WHY! Jmo
Hey Judge TL! Listen UP!
VA said she WOULD NEVER STOP TRYING TO GET HKS!
NOW can you understand this STUPID F-ing suit? If not, maybe it is you who needs a hiatus and brush up on the First Amendment Laws along with that law that needs to be passed in Texas when a Judge gets big funds for their campaign they NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FOR FAIRNESS TO ALL!
McC does seem to be obsessed with just tearing down each and every defendant!
He should be escorted out of the legal profession NOW! Imo in which I have every right to state as these are my observations of these idiotic actions in TX by this judge and this law firm’s attorneys!
Just wanted to say to Bonnie… I have NEVER heard ANY other Judge ever order such a broad intrusive order into someone’s private business with only the word of two people that McC seemed to INTICE to come and give sworn statements that he ‘helped’ them with DURING THE DEPO!
Hell, whether you got off your personal crap or not… should not matter. None of these others who are putting you down would stand for STUPID OVERBROAD ORDERS like that in a million years!
Ignore them! And hope that the DOJ gets contacted on this Judges and this plaintiff’s attorney’s actions!
Lets all hope this injustice can be STOPPED in the Appellate Court!
Wonder if research needs to be done to see if that TX firm has done business with any of those Judges in the past?
BECAUSE SEARCHING THE INTERNET IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW! No one should have gone to jail or ever go to jail in this bogus farce of a case! Unless it is the Plaintiff’s attorney for his vexatious litigation and all the unnecessary harm he has done to everyone of the defendants out of revenge for his boss getting served for falsely trashing people on national TV!
I did not proof read this as it was done in a hurry! Please ignore my typos & mistakes. Damn these people piss me off! How can anyone hope someone else goes to jail? What the hell kind of payment do they think VA should get from TMZ (ONLY)? For publishing something McC said was true? VA LOST NOTHING, you cannot replace something that was not lost. Certainly it was not her reputation… as her actions tore that little she had to shreds herself!
STOP THIS STUPID CASE! RECUSE THIS SLEEPING JUDGE! STOP THIS TX LAW FIRM FROM ILLEGAL HAVOC TO INNOCENT PEOPLE! Just my opinion on it!
Hi Roxanne, I hope you are doing good. I am thinking of you and I wish you a very speedy recovery.
Hi Beth, Great to see you.
#6 Roxanne, That is Great news and Thank God!
Beth #10, excellent post!
Now I am off to read, I hope everyone is doing good.
Hi Rose, I hope you are doing well,
Heath, Thanks for the article, That is a very good article.
Right Beth. It just doesn’t make sense that Bonnie would “get rid” evidence especially when it seems to clear her of wrong doing. It’s crazy.
Thanks for the well wishes all. Like I said, I’m doing fine. Sore and bruised to hell and back but it was all contained. We just got word that my Aunt’s is back and has spread further in her body so please say a prayer for her. She’s the one who needs it most right now.
#10 Beth exactly, this case should never have come this far. Bonnie has just said no…simple.
Rox prayers for your Aunt and the odd 1 or 2 for you as well…you don’t have to be too tough GIRL….
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE—-BETH —GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN,Missed your insight,and intelligent comments,If you noticed,Topix cockroaches are saying what this case is about,the words are for Bonnie and everyone to (pay up)It sure is not about any defaming,because there was none,again it is about ,paying OQ Law Firm the money they spent on the (disgrace of a cockroach calling herself a human being)You know I WISH i knew Bonnie,she is my kind of woman,take no (S) from anyone all the woman on this site are the same.I have noticed Bonnie and Howard are both,strong,and will fight till the end to get justice,DEEP DEEP respect,for a family that has taken more abuse,from a GREEDY MOTHER,who will not face the facts.and when Pol and Patrik,s book comes out the slime that had once called themselfs Anna friend,will find everyone is sick of there lies and temper tamtrums,I AM PRAYING THE CASE AGAINST Howard in CAL gets thrown out,and Larry keeps on doing what he is doing Dannielynn is a happy child who loves daddy,and because Virgie daughter and grandson hated her,she will NEVER RUIN DANNIELYNN LIFE.i think a lot of people forget when Anna was alive Larry wanted his child,he was thrown into being a single father,so give him space,
ROXANNE——I give your aunt all my prayers and if she is anythig like you,she will beat it,(ATTITUDE) HELPS/
Good to see you posting again Beth and while I agree that this entire case is nonsense and has done more damage to Virgie than anything else, I respectfully disagree about what Bonnie did. IF she wiped out some evidence, she is trying to control justice and just her actions alone do not look good in the eyes of ANY court, let alone in the Harris County TX court. You do not destroy evidence. That is plain and simple. As Rose stated, what was retrieved could have very well proved that there was no conspiracy or that any conspiracy involved the very people who McCabe has as witnesses. It appears that she tried to delete, not personal information nor her customers information but information pertaining to this case. (please understand I am only going by the report). I do not agree that if she backed up any information on any other media, the original media could be damaged. To me that just does not make sense. Businesses do back ups everyday and cause no harm to the data. You are right, those additional unknown devices very well could have been flash drives for her customers, a just in case precaution. Also maybe she purchased the exact same media because logically if you back up to the same device how can the data be corrupted?
BUT, if it is found that she did indeed try to tamper with evidence then all I can see for her is contempt of court and jail time for her actions. What was once a civil case has now become a criminal trial. And she did damage every other defendant with her actions. There was no presumption of innocence in this civil case to begin with, now it is even worse. IMO I hope that in someway, Bonnie can provide a true copy of her original drive with the missing data still on it.
Please understand that IF Bonnie did do this, then her actions show her guilt, not innocence or being protective of anyone else.
If you disagree, please point out where my thinking might be flawed so that I might understand where you are coming from.
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Diamondgirl
I have no knowledge of the behind the scenes but I do know Bonnie and I just don’t think she would do something like that. She has a very high level integrety. I’m going to sit back on this one and see what happens next. There are 2 sides to everything and I am willing to wait to hear Bonnies before I pass any type of judgement.
#18 “I just don’t think she would do something like that. She has a very high level integrity. I’m going to sit back on this one and see what happens next. There are 2 sides to everything and I am willing to wait to hear Bonnies before I pass any type of judgment.”
So very well stated Rox!
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DG, All I will say right now is everyone has different opinions on everything. Just because I cannot or will not take the time to point out my feelings on this does not mean that makes anyone with opposing thoughts correct. (no disrespect to anyone intended by that)
Also, I was not planning on posting regularly again here, (due to my strong opposition to this 3rd party crap that does not help anyone but McC – It DOES NOT HELP ANY OF THE DEFENDANTS!!! Other bloggers included IMO) I just wanted to say out loud my feelings on this report that sounded to me like McC wrote the damn thing! I mean JC! The wording and accusations! I promise you with every fiber in my being… I do not think that Ogden gave this gift! I believe he may have said that, or may even think that! He got bamboozled! There are many who feel that Ball is in McC/O’Q’s pocket book! McC cannot seem to keep his OCD mouth in check either! It does look like to me he slipped and spoke about this report before even B.S. knew about it! (hint: LB’s motion to compel)
Again, lets see all of that firm’s broad scope discovery! They fought tooth and nail to even have WV deposed! I see that she is on Topix just keeping it going…
I would like to see her or DC also get a Sleeping Judge to make a dumbass Order like that! They sure in the hell would NEVER Comply with that nonsense! imo
BETH—-Please help me out,if NO JURISTRICTION ,has been settled,how can anyone be held in comtempt,?Is that the chicken before the egg or the egg before the chicken,This judge has done things that confuse me no end,Has the court established the defendants juristriction,if now,whatever Bonnie did was to right to do so.
Dear Roxanne,
I had no idea you were a cancer thriver. Regular self-examinations and staying in tune with your body and “listening” for changes are so fundamentally important to early detection, so congrats on catching it in time. Sounds to me like you’re a very smart and responsible woman.
In the meantime, I’m hoping the aches and pains from your surgery quickly become a distant memory.
I wish you continued health and your aunt is in my prayers.
18. That is why I said “IF”. I do not know anyone personally involved in this entire mess. So I can only base my opinion by only what I read. Actually my mom always told me that there are three sides to everything your side, my side and somewhere in the middle.. the truth. This is why I feel it is a good thing to readd all that you can on a subject.
*read* correction
Thanks for the new documents. What a mess. You know it is Murphy’s law, what can go wrong will. And on the very thing it shouldn’t.
Rox, JMA. It looks like you really got some people all steamed up (not the good type) over a couple of your post. Mish put up a special message on queenie beanies site just for you two.
Thanks Only swim in the Ocean
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900. 874. Ball’s report on Bonnie.
http://bugsyhill7.angelfire.com/BALL.pdf
Posted at 6:02PM on Jun 9th 2009 by Bonnie’s Blunder
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The hyperbolic language of Ball’s report reminds me of other suspect TX lawyers. He makes a big deal about usual and customary software most savvy people have on their computers to maintain their system’s peak performance.
Anyway, Bonnie backs up with Carbonite. Just make a prima facie showing in Lindsay’s Court to support subpoenas for third-party providers to acquire the authenticated ‘copies’ of her hard drives. ?
Posted at 2:38PM on Jun 10th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean
Afternoon All…
I had a wonderful morning watching my babies [granddaughter & grandson] have their Kindergarten Graduation today. Thank goodness, their classrooms where directly across from one another I had to keep going from one class to the other taking pictures. It was so cute and I am here to tell you all, kids say the darndest things. My granddaughter was pointing out everyone to her little friends and when she got to me she said that’s my Mom, well one of the children goes but I thought that was your Mom over there pointing to my daughter, my granddaughter goes yes it is I have two Mom’s
I told my daughter that was going to happen one day
Beth [10] great post you are always spot on which is why I love reading your post so much.
PS,
Glad to see you posting again I missed you.
Roxanne [13] I agree it doesn’t make sense why Bonnie would deliberately get rid of something that would clear her. You know I use those programs that she uses. Every day I use the CCleaner and I have Ad-Aware scheduled to scan and remove once a week and I also use Spy-Bot.
Glad to hear you are doing well and I will keep your Aunt in my thoughts and prayers.
Ken [25] I don’t even want to look due to I do not care and excuse me but her name and e-mail address was listed as one of the receivers of Kimmie’s e-mails and it was in the filing and if “IT” {Mish} does not like it then maybe she should not have been involved in the first place.
With that said, she can kiss my ass!!!
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Emmett
Thank you for the well wishes. This all happened very suddenly and just within the last couple of weeks. We just got the results back from the lymph nodes and they are ALL CLEAR. My doctor says that I don’t even have to have chemo. Really, I don’t feel like a cancer surviver. You know what I mean? My girl found it and from there I had surgery and then the news of all clear with in just a short amount of time. There are soooo many women out there who don’t catch it as early as we did and who truly have to fight for their lives. I feel more like I had a appendix removed…. if that makes sense. But, I am greatful for the well wishes. Not many people knew as I had to process it all myself first so I know it may be a shock to many but I’M COOL. “)
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Ken
Mish can kiss my ass. I don’t even know who the hell she is and took her name straight out of an email written by none other than Kimmie that is given as an example in a report written by Craig Ball. So, Mish go flap your jaws to someone who gives a shit. Do you need a quarter to call someone who cares? Really, GROW UP.
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JMA
Agree totally.
Roxanne [29] in reference to your news YEAH!!!
Oops correction….YEA
Hello Liann! I am sorry that I missed saying that in my earlier post. (was rushing to work)
Thank you Aggie for the post of Swims! I see he is also thinking along the same lines as my morning post.
Good! I was hoping it was not just me!
I had an epiphany during work today… as I was thinking that maybe some would not understand my ‘pause’ regarding Ball. (Thank God, for the two declarations I just downloaded of B. Stern’s IT guy)
Anyway, I was thinking this morning before I saw Swim’s thoughts and this two-part declaration… It would be VERY EASY TO PROVE!
Here is just a possible scenario that popped into my head.
> What if B. Stern got a Rabbi, Priest, and Minister [ just an example of good people ;) ] had them on camera at the same time open a phone book of computer forensic listings and each one just pick one.
> Then when the SAME COMPUTERS come back from Ball SEALED – DO NOT BREAK THE SEAL and forward them to one of the picks, then the same procedure for another pick of a forensic person…
> Get a certified LIST from BALL of all the SEARCH WORDS, PHRASES, ect… (everything he looked for)
Give it to the two or three unknown forensic specialists >> HAVE them look for the same thing BALL did and have them WRITE A REPORT (like they would if it was really going to the Court)
>>> THEN! THEN! I BET EVEN THE Topix VA supporters would be aghast at HOW THE OTHER TWO or THREE Reports DO NOT SOUND SO F-ing Accusatory!!!
*** If you ask ME! McC stepped in it BIG TIME, along w/ BALL!
Look CLOSELY at the Motion to Compel LB, read the ‘wording’… SEE IF YOU DO NOT ALSO THINK THAT McCABE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THIS REPORT SAID BEFORE ANYONE ELSE!!!
* > That SHOOTS down the incorrect theory of Ball being a gift!
(Not being rude, I can see you probably believing that… I would bet everything I own if that scenario could be played out >> You would truly see HOW BALL IS NOT FAIR and UNBIASED! Just like this Judge IS NOT!)
~~~ I think it is time to have all bloggers say TRUCE!
Maybe they need to take one declaration about how they feel about how unfair these Court proceedings are. Then each of them write their views and have their signature notarized. (One whole declaration between them all) FOR THE RECORD! Yes, the recuse did not work, but it would be on RECORD FOR THE APPEAL.
Also, RE-FILING this 3rd Party Nonsense… I hope when there is a deposition by CBS that CBS asks just how intimidated were you to do this. Just how pressured were you to ADD the corny bit about the plastic flowers to make sure HKS’s name was mentioned w/ an act… Just how many people said to you that you would not have to come and testify if you do this…. Ect, ect, ect…
* Those words above are NOT typed to being mean! I honestly believe you were FORCED! Since you have said over and over you will not lie, THEN I HOPE CBS ASKS SOME DAMN THOROUGH QUESTIONS!
As any of you members identification… THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN IN JEOPARDY!
THE STUPID SUIT DOES NOT LIST ONE OF YOUR ARTICLES AS BEING DEFAMATORY.
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR OPINIONS, IF McC GOT YOUR MEMBERS INFO THEN EVERY PERSON THAT SAID WORSE ABOUT VA ON TMZ, OR TOPIX WOULD HAVE TO ALSO GIVE THEIR ID’s UP!
THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER, NEVER, BEEN ANY KIND OF BARGAINING CHIP!
I AM AFRAID YOU GOT DUPPED!
I am in shock you haven’t pulled that 3rd party COLLUSION w/ the Plaintiff’s Lawyer!
If you would email all the defendants and ask them if they want you to continue (w/ the 3rd party motion) and they ALL SAID NO! > Drop anything to do with that conniving lawyer in this bogus case…
WOULD YOU DO IT??? Well if not, then that would shed some light on how the depos will go, won’t it?
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Beverly, (#20)
I cannot answer the actions of this so called Judge! SHE IS WRONG, NO OTHER JUDGE WOULD ACT LIKE THIS THAT I KNOW OF!
*NO ORDERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE UNTIL THE PLAINTIFF HAD A CLEAR ACCOUNT TO SHOW THE COURT THEIR HARM.
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An answer to a post from Swims:
“Nonsense. Computers are dynamic. Computers require maintenance.
Diking around with peoples’ personal computers is harassment. If VA wants any emails of evidentiary value, provide the Court a prima facie showing. Otherwise, it’s all gossip and hearsay for a fundamentally fraudulent case.”
“Posted at 3:56PM on Jun 10th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean”
#903 / Pg. 61 (I encourage all to read the prior pages on that thread; 58, 59, 60)
Very true! VA/McC have NOT SHOWN an exact ‘harm’, NO ONE SHOULD HAVE EVER, EVER IMO sent them anything for them to LIE AND TWIST AROUND!!!
I do understand pressures of intimidation… BUT!!! THIS IS WRONG TO DEAL WITH A SUSPECT FIRM THAT IS OUT TO PURPOSELY HARM ANYONE!!! IMO
You know after going over the e-mail Kimmie states in an e-mail to Havana 4/19/07 that she along with Kim A, Gem and Mish were searching “The Family” in chat the night before. She also says they were working as “A Team” so the way I see it they all were involved in digging up info on VA.
Kimmie also in an e-mail to QV 4/19/07 states 15 of them were working on it in chat the night before, again it is as plain as day the names she mentions were part of the 15 that were digging up info on VA along with Billy Smith.
So Ken may I ask just out of curiosity what was it Mish was Bitching???
Something about y’all needing to get your facts straight and her name wasn’t one of the names on there. You know, the usually dribble they sputter and spit out, when they get caught with their pants around their ankles.
Now they are trying to split hairs, so to speak and say those emails are about the “cousin story” not the “stepbrother” story.
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Right. I was just repeating what is written in black and white. We have all heard them deny doing any kind of searching but there it is in black and white. I don’t get. Everyone needs to own up to their words. I don’t see those names being sued by VA. So, are they afraid they could be pulled into this now? I don’t get why get so angry. They need to put their anger on the person who actually named them in a email. Hell, it looked to me like they were doing an pretty good bit of bragging about what they had found. To bad they got it in the wrong order of events and innocent people are being sued for their actions and mistakes.
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WHATEVER. What does it matter? It shows just who was doing the research doesn’t it?
Roxanne [36] EXACTLY ;-) plain as day!
[32] in regards to this ” If VA wants any emails of evidentiary value, provide the Court a prima facie showing. Otherwise, it’s all gossip and hearsay for a fundamentally fraudulent case.”
“Posted at 3:56PM on Jun 10th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean” ”
Re-read the Dec 11, 2008 transcript where the defendants lawyer, Mr. Ogden, commented to the judge about McC needing to make a prima facia case and the judge replies that she believes they did and then when asked why, by Mr. Ogden, she replies with “because I said so.”
Rox [36] It doesn’t matter, I just found her and her response and such amusing.
Ken [34] not only was her name on/in the e-mails but her e-mail address was too, WTF! IMO it does not matter which showed up [cousin or step-brother] in the filing they/she was still part of the team that was digging up dirt on VA at least that is what Kimmie is implying in those e-mails.
Well I will answer Mish here. Look at page 12 of Craig Ball’s report. You will see the following names: Kim A, Gem, Mish. This has to do with looking up Billy Smith family and goes on to say more about what “Jane asked” . So maybe you ought to address your concern to Mr. Ball.
Roxanne glad to hear your surgery went well and you got an all clear You and your aunt are both in my prayers ad hope everything goes ok for her ,from my lips to Gods ears,
Beth you said it all ,I thought the thing about reclusing yourself was mandated for all elected judges who might show bias as this sleeping judge does. Believe me I have contacted by e-mail everyone *I thought might help except the AG of Texas because all I saw on his site was things to do with child support. I figure Texas is a republican state and they might take notice since this judge was given donations by O’Quinn who supported a democrat for Governor. You know how politics work. I really don’t care about the judge being a democrat if she can’t admit when she is in the wrong.Any judge should not be as biased as this sleeping judge seems to be.AS for deleting things I delete e-mails as soon as I read them Their are very few e-mails that I have kept. Are people supposed to keep e-mails forever.Thank God Rose did but most people do no unless it is a threat ect.
If these e-mail bring Kimmie and the rest into this so be it . JMA Glad you had fun at the graduation sounds like a fun day.
I too will wait and see what happens with this
DiamondGirl [41] Kimmie does point out that they ALL searched “The Family” and worked as “A Team”
TO: BONNIE STERN ( I hope you will be able to do something similar to this below…QUICKLY )
- Please get a certified copy of exactly what Ball searched for from him. (delete his name and any reference about this forensic guy from the paper)
- Take the sealed hardware you receive from Ball and give it to ANY OTHER Forensic Expert.
- Have them do the exact searches (from the words that Ball searched for) and make a Report.
(Without seeing or having knowledge of the biased report from Ball) Submit that ‘un-ordered’ report to dispute Ball’s report in Court.
* Your IT guy is right, BUT in a Court of Law — YOU have to fight an Expert with another Expert in the same field of expertise.
Hopefully you can do this BEFORE the 3 Judges get together!
** I do not know you, but I wish you the best of LUCK with this unnecessary mess!
~~~ PLEASE do not get ‘swindled’ by this Texas bunch! EVERYONE deserves a FAIR and IMPARTIAL proceeding in any Court of Law…
EVEN in Texas! ~ JMO on this big crap of a chaos! ~~~
http://train.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~176.asp
Have any of you guys seen this defamation of B.S. by the VA/McC supporters?
Maybe they should be sued? *AS that is a TRUE SHOWING OF HARM to an individual!
Just like the defamation of all done by bamacat with her ’so-called satire site’ that was only done to HARM certain individuals!
MAYBE someone should SEND SCREENSHOTS of what they (McC/VA supporters)
HAVE DONE TO ALL OF THE DEFENDANTS to TL and the (3) Appellate Judges!
NOW! To me… that is a conspiracy of many to harm innocent defendants!
I am done even looking at this disaster! It is enough to make a person literally sick.
#26 Aggie did you realise the link to the documents were for documents with Roses watermark all over them.
Why don’t they get their own ??? If they are going to link them online.. They are not freebies.
What I am thinking now is what is the the state of McCabe being able to get his evidence? We know Bonnie has altered her hard drive. We know Lyndals is gone and Butterflys we don’t exactly know.. so where does it leave the fishing expedition???
heath [46] OMG, Wulfy was salivating the other day while waiting for Rose to put up documents, it’s ridiculous.
Just finished reading the downloads and Mr Ball sure does sound like NcShame doesn’t ?he impartial or not?Mr Bly gives a very exact account of what he did. If Ball Wanted to image the drives why wasn’t he out in California as was first stated by the court? I think our Mr bingo man would know how to get into Bonnies computer and try and get rid of something that they did not want out there. Why would this sleeping judge want people from California’s S.S # and other personal info it had nothing to do with the case and Mr Ball did not need to see it either. Who knows who will steal your idenity?My previous employer had a trusted insurance employee steal many of our companies S.S. #and Names and used them to open accounts and charge things,Some only found out because of dunning calls which they knew nothing about then of course the Govt stepped in and the person was caught and had thousands of peoples I D I would hope that Bonnies customers would not go after her but either McShame,DC,the sleeping judge or Mr Ball if any information was leaked and we all know ho DC and McShame like to do that.I can only imagine how Bonnie felt after mr smart Mouth McShame said my pleasure,may he rot in hell.Sorry but this all makes me really angry and as Mr Bly said no one is safe oon a computer now days and McShame has someone who knows all abo0ut how to hack computers. To bad who ever did it did not know there were copy’s.Being snarky again
This gets to be more of a mess as each day passes.
Yes Heath; speaking of “Fishing Expedition”… Have your read the latest link to the CA Bankruptcy (link from the Hangout)
“JOINT STATUS REPORT LOCAL BANKRUPTCY RULE 7016-1(a)(2)” (below is at the end of the page)
“Defendant’s Comments:
The trial in Texas is not likely to occur for at least 2 years. There will be so much discovery related to the
defamation claim itself and against TMZ, Harvey Levin, Howard K. Stern and the six other defendants (three of
whom reside in Texas) that Defendant cannot possibly afford to participate in that discovery. While it is likely that
the other Defendants in the Texas action will prevail and prove that no defamation occurred and therefore no
conspiracy to defame can be asserted, even if defamation and conspiracy to defame were found to exist, that will
not establish that Defendant Stern participated in any such conspiracy. Plaintiff should be required to produce all
evidence in her possession now that establishes Ms. Stern’s role in a conspiracy. Plaintiff is not entitled to
engage in a fishing expedition to try to come up with evidence against Ms. Stern.”
Good night all.
I am trying to download the new docs, my security is painful at times…..
I am hoping for some good stuff…….
Any one else read the docs yet
Beth #50 Interesting comments and very true.
Think McCabe is starting to look like he is herding a lot of cats.
Ann over at HFTM brought up a very good point. Bonnie could have lost everything that would have shown she was innocent of a conspiracy if she had not copied her drives. For those defendants that are here, maybe you should invest in an external hard drive and have an IT person copy the data onto the new drive? Or have a hard copy printed out before turning over any of the drives. Rose you sent McCabe all that you were required to do? If he wants more of it now, maybe you should copy all to CD’s? Pain the ass but could also save it? I don’t know. Do not erase anything but have your own copy just in case?
The IT guys report is very thorough and easy to read.
No wonder Bonnie has this guy taking care of her stuff.
Geeks really rule the world.
Bet the Judge has to ask McCabe to explain all this high tech stuff to her again so she gets his side taken care of.
Makes Balls report a bit pro Virgie I think.
See What I don’t get is that McCabe said in the Plaintiff’s Motion to Compel Responses to Request for Production from Defendant Larry Birkhead and to Extend Authority of Special Master. I believe that was filed on the 8th, which he speaks of Bonnie turning over her computers and he states, “Which bodes ill for Arthur’s right to discovery etc.”. and now on the 9th Master Ball gives his report, How would McCabe even know what bodes ill or what was in it? and did Bonnie have a chance to say what is privileged? and did that go before the Judge to determine what is privileged? Isn’t that supposed to happen before Ball’s report? and or any questions from Ball regarding Bonnie’s computer before his report was to be completed??.
One thing I want to just say is I really like Diana Marshall’s style in writing her motions, I love the way she hit the nail on the head in the Subject to Special Appearance Response to Plaintiff’s first request for Production motion, ( I think that is what it is called ) about Texas having jurisdiction over LB she says “In some incoherent case that seems to be an attempt at a defamation case” That is exactly it, McCabe’s whole case is incoherent!
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EXACTLY. That is the point. Mish can get pissed all she wants. I really don’t care. She is of no consequence in my life and I’m laughing at her attempts to insult, chide or scold me for mentioning her name. It has NOTHING to do with the request for production of documents. IT’S IN BLACK AND WHITE IN CRAIG BALL’S REPORT. I believe it was Diamondgirl that gave you the page number to reference. QV did do the stepbrother story Mish. I know you trust her and you believe otherwise but it will come to light one day and you will see the truth of that issue. Jane was heavily involved at the time to.
The chats the judge needs to see are the ones referenced in the emails in Craig Balls report. The ones we have talked about for so long and have repeatedly been told didn’t happen or didn’t exist. Those emails makes it pretty clear that they did in fact happen and exist. Did she say there were about 15 involved just on that one night doing research and the “cousin” story, which was designed for the “ick factor” was published the next day wasn’t it? Am I wrong about that? Curious indeed!
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–adjective 1. without logical or meaningful connection; disjointed; rambling: an incoherent sentence.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/incoherent
The way I see it is that the ones that conspired all ran to McCabe and put the blame for their actions on the ones that wanted No part of their bullshit, and to blame the ones in TX are only a way to try to gain jurisdiction.
It seems to me as if Ball’s OPINION is leading his suppose to be ‘technical’ assessment. Does Ball ever match up Bonnie’s tech (Mr. Bly) info to what he discovered wrong or does he just go on and on about destruct this and deleted that? Almost as McCabe is attempting to do with HKS’s Motion to Compel, just becuz someone ordinarily deletes emails through the course of the day somehow constitutes destructing evidence or hiding something, etc. That is all they have ever said and Ball seems to have jumped on that wagon. (I have succummbed to screenshotting my normal daily delete the Sh#T email just to show no foul play but to say i delete email somehow means you are purposely destroying evidence?
I noticed that Mr. Bly gave a very thorough outline of the steps he took, all Ball says is that it altered evidence? It doesnt alter the evidence, it alters the backend behind the scenes stuff, such as a registry file might be moved upon cleaning the registry in normal cleaning procedure of a computer. Ball jumps on this as if it is purposely setting out to destroy when in all reality, the emails that mccabe is seeking are still there, intact. It is a technical person attempting to use technical words to create chaos when in reality Mr. Bly’s actions did nothing to the data McCabe is seeking.
The simplest thing is to get a backup copy and see if the data remains the same, not the behind the scenes computer stuff, but just the data.
Mr. Ball went a little overboard in his opinions and exaggeration to the point, he sounds like McCabe…
JMO
It all sounds innocent to me. My only opinion of Ball is that his comments to Bly were condescending and sarcastic. It did remind me of McC. Especially the part about Bly being a good storyteller. If I were Bly, that would have really pissed me off. Which I think it did. Ball is basically calling Bly a liar. Unfortunately, I doubt that the court will even entertain Bly’s declarations. I just wish the madness would end. I read Art’s latest supplement to the 3rd party motion. Wonder how the court will get a round that one.
I agree with you. Mr. Ball seemed to be a little sarcastic to me also.
Morning Peeps just wanted to share what I was reading this morning with all you. In the next 50 days, California’s government risks a financial meltdown. Will Jerry Brown be up for the task of whipping California back in to shape should he become the next Governor of California or will he be too pre-occupied being the cape crusader by continuing to go after all the doctors that cater to the Celebrities.
http://www4.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20090610/POLITICS-US-ECONOMY-CAL
Roxanne [55] we know what we read in Ball’s report but yes the more irate and obscene she becomes the more it proves her guilt. So, Mish now trying to say QV only had a hand in the “cousin” story when in fact it is know she had a hand in the “stepbrother” story too. Wasn’t the “stepbrother” story the one QV so proudly announced “You Heard It Here First”
Oh, about the 15 doing the searching Kimmie’s says they were searching [her words] “The Family” until about 1:30am.
Interesting comment made over 1 yr ago – in the middle of the page —- link of article below
“Her ‘buddies’, Yvonne Waddles (Barnhart) and Chrystal Baker and Jane Devin WROTE the story on TMZ! Then they went behind their friends backs and pretended that THEY felt bad for Virgie and wanted to help her. You know how they helped? By going to Virgie’s lawyers and claiming there was a *big conspiracy* to discredit Virgie, and that Howard and his sister were directing it! They continued to pretend that they were trying to help Howard while actually trying to frame a woman who DARED to tell them their article on Virgie could hurt Howard. Devin turned because she’s a fame wh**e and People Magazine wouldn’t coddle her. Waddles turned because Howard’s family didn’t send condolences when her mom died(seriously!) and Baker, well her little fit came on b/c Howard said he didn’t know her in a depo! Fame Wh**es. Every last one of em! Bottom line? If people out there wanted to help Howard K. Stern it was on their own accord. No one was the ‘kingpin’ (haha). The crazies will try to go after him another way when this one gets thrown out. ”
http://www.thinkfashion.com/blogs/stylosity_hollywood_hookup/archive/2008/05/16/anna-nicole-smith-s-mom-virgie-arthur-to-fight-howard-k-stern-tmz-conspiracy.aspx
Question – shouldn’t these people above be the ONLY Defendants in this case with no clear infraction ever stated?
You know what I think this case is “A pimple that McCabe turned into a boil”I am discusted, with this Judge,who is wasting court time, it appears Judge Linsay is paying back a debt to the OQ Law Firm,Now if I am thinking that way,that is a appearance of IMPROPRIETY,and the longer Judge Lindsay does not get recused.the more improper it appears.ALL the taking of hard drives,putting people in jail,FOR WHAT,PEOPLE TALKING WITH THERE BUDDIES ON THE INTERNET AND AGREEING.A prudant judge would already have read and seen all the articles about Virgie,and seen she has destroyed her own reputation,and with Splash stating Virgie wanted the family feud kept going,that would mean she did not care what people thought.BUT AT THAT TIME,VIRGIE WOULD HAVE MADE MONEY,Knowing what this suit is about,how can anyone get a judgement on a statement that was public knowledge,and everyone had the subject material.I AM AT A LOSS,AS TO WHAT IN HELL DOES THE JUDGE THINK SHE IS DOING,except to try and get McCabe material for other cases.
No Case – Wrong Defendants [63] absolutely the three of them should be Defendant’s in this ridiculous case.
We are trying to catch up with the filings we have on multiple cases. The first set is all of the filings from June 2 through June 8 with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals preparing for Oral Arguments on June 25, 2009 at 9:30 AM in Seattle Washington in regards to the Estate of Anna Nicole Smith.
June 2, 2009 Notice of time and date of Oral Arguments in Seattle Washington before the ninth circuit court of appeals.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2085
June 2, 2009 Notice by Ninth Circuit of Appeals that the filings from the Estate of Anna Nicole smith is on record with instructions as to the number the court needs and how many to send for stamping and distribution.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2086
June 5, 2009 Notice to all parties that the oral hearing before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has been changed from June 25, 2009 from 1:30 PM to 9:30 AM.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2089
June 5, 2009 Joint Status Report by the Estate of Pierce Marshall and the Estate of Anna Nicole Smith as to the name of the two attorneys that will do the oral arguments on June 25, before the court. For Elaine Marshall on behalf of the Estate of Pierce Marshall the attorney named is, G. Eric Brunstad, Jr. On behalf of Howard K. Stern on behalf of the Estate of Anna Nicole Smith the attorney named is, Kent L. Richland.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2088
June 5, 2009 New Docket Report that serves as notice to all parties that the oral hearing before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has been changed from June 25, 2009 from 1:30 PM to 9:30 AM.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2087
June 8, 2009 Notice from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that the Judicial Notice presented by Howard K. Stern on behalf of the Estate of Anna Nicole Smith on June 1, 2009 will be decided after the Oral Arguments on June 25 before the Court.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2090
#63 If anyone should have been added as responsible thrid parties it is them. All paths lead to QV.
new article up
YOU KNOW ,WHY IS NOTHING BEING DONE ABOUT QV?This again shows,Virgie and McCabe are not interested in defamation,If this Judge does not ask for QV hard drives that again will show me ,harrassment of the stern Family and anyone who backs Howard,THAT JUDGE IS SHOWING THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY,and sure does not promote public confidence,in intergrity and impartiality of the judiciary.This goes in line with WHY vIRGIE HAS NOT SAID ANYTHING ABOUT TAS WHO WAS THE LAST ONE TO SEE HER DAUGHTER.Virgie is continuely showing no concern how Anna died just in getting rid of Howard and anyone that backs him.LORD i wish I WOULD BE ON THE JURY,the CROOKS WOULD NOT PREVAIL.
BRAVO BUTTER SO TRUE!!!!!
Chilling effect again here Lol!!!
The only things judge sleeping and Mcbeth does not whant it make all this criminal!!!!!
then they can keep there place in a corrupt TX with the corrupt persons
Butterfly and Saves – it is so good to see both of you. Please post more often. I have missed you both.
Yes, I believe that all of them should be involved in this lawsuit. Since it was reported that someone tried to sell this step-brother story to a magazine, I wonder if that magazine still has the contact name, address and such.
Savesomething [71] with what has been happening since McCabe launch this frivolous Defamation suit in the name of Virgie Arthur it does look as though the Texas’s legal system is corrupt doesn’t it? I for the life of me cannot figure out how any of this can be allowed, just glad I do not reside there and truly feel bad for those who do and have to deal with the Texas Legal System.
PS,
Happy to see you posting, you too Butterfly.
DiamondGirl [73] again I absolutely agree and you know there is no reason why they should not have been, there is enough proof of all of their involvement. It cannot be said because they do not/ did not live in Texas, I mean the majority added to this suit do not live in Texas.
As you notice, rose has not been posting. This is the first day since her tests this past friday and monday that she has been out of bed and at the computer to be able to do any work. We are trying to catch up on the documents and put them up as we can.
QV and Havana are cooperating witnesses as far as VA is concerned. Of course McC won’t add them because then they would stop cooperating. I do wonder if a defendant could have added them though. Too late now because of the June 1st control docket and the ~no new parties~ in the #1 spot.
trina [77] I know this is going to sound silly but I wonder if the Defendants can turn around and file suit against them, you know something like a mental anguish suit or something. We all have discussed before whether a suit against those who caused Bloggers to be brought in, I just wonder if it is possible. I guess once the case is done and over those Bloggers who are, now having their lives destroyed may want to look into what their options might be.
Oh yeah and we all know why they are cooperating, they wanted attention so they handed over the shit they did but pointed the finger at others.
Ken I hope Rose is feeling better.
Did they just want attention, or was it something more? I personally think that they were bought (in someway) by the O’Quinn law firm. Maybe a little threat and intimidation tactics? Although because of the attention factor it probably didn’t take much
jmo
Hi Butterfly and saves. Ball does sound just like McShame doesn’t he. Like he know it all He may be a specialist but so are IT people I know one who made up our companies whole system from scratch with very little help..I would not turn anything over to Ball unless I had a back up. He may be honest as the day is bright but than again he may be very biased in this case No one knows whats in his mind but his words kind of speak for them selves. Does the Man really think someone would destroy an e-mail that proves they were not in this story except to be cc about what was going on about some things,If this judge is not corrupt she can see this for herself if she even reads the report instead of having McShame tell her what it says.Hopefully Bonnie also gave the other attorneys a copy of her hard drive..I don’t see any where that this judge says that cannot be done.
trina [79] IMO it started out as wanting attention. IMO I do not think they were intimidated or threaten in anyway. IMO they willingly and happily handed over whatever they thought McCabe wanted probably even went as far as giving him things he did not want or need. They may have received something in return for what they handed over or said to McCabe.
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The problem is the stuff they handed over points to themselves as being conspirators. McCabe even refers to them as “admitted conspirators.” Now we see for sure there were others involved in researching, something we already new but now have comfirmation on, and still it doesn’t show any of the defendants as so called conspirators. We know at least 3 of those mentioned in that email have given things to McCabe now. Were they threatened? We know that McCabe is very capable of that. We have seen it in the emails with Rose. Look, I will be the first one to say that I was wrong if there really was this big conspiracy involving all the defendants and HKS. What I have seen doesn’t show anything of the sort. What I have seen shows a couple of women who got their feelings hurt for whatever reasons. They didn’t get the recognition they wanted is what started it all. I wonder how they sleep at night with the half truths and outright lies they have told. IMO the Third Party motion would have been better served to have brought the “admitted conspirators” into this. If the court thinks it has jurisdiction over people who are out of state simply because they emailed or had a phone call with someone in TX then it should have no problem calling jurisdiction over those. To late in the game for it now thought, so to speak.
Roxanne– I agree the Third Party Motion should have been served on the admitted conspirators.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/13/howard-k-stern-2-docs-were-not-guilty/63#comments
There are some outstanding comments on pages 63 and 64. You do have to overlook one nut but wouldn’t that be something if the TX player’s ‘blogging friends’ were exposed in the criminal trial? Wouldn’t it be something if the other defendants in the Texas case pulled them in under oath?
Yep! Wouldn’t that be something! Then the finale, they ended up being sued for their false remarks? Wouldn’t that be something if the satire site and the other two sites get sued for their deliberate defamation of HKS, LB, and their families? Let us not leave out the defamers on the Topix site!