Lyndal Harrington’s Jail Stay makes International News will it get her a Much Needed Pro Bono Attorney?
Posted by Rose in All Things Anna Nicole Smith, Amanda Bush, Anna Nicole Smith, Art Harris, Bonnie Stern, CBS-ET, Celebrity Trials, Charles "Chip" Babcock, Chip Babcock, Debunking the myths on ALL cases related to Anna Nicole, Diana Marshall, Entertainment Tonight, Harvey Levin, High Proflie Trials, Howard K Stern, John Patton, Larry Birkhead, Lin Wood, Luke Lantta, Lyndal Harrington, Nancy Hamilton, Rose Speaks, Rose Turner, Teresa Stephens, TMZ, TMZ.comEx Rose Speaks blogger made international news yesterday upon her release from the Harris County Jail after spending a holiday weekend there. Will this international news provide Lyndal Harrington with a much needed Pro Bono Attorney to help with her July 2, 2009 hearing back in Court? We all hope one comes forward for her.
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Now the latest filings in Texas:
May 19, 2009 Court Order from the First Court of Appeals in Texas with court setting the date for all interested parties (those being sued and or suing that is listed) to submit Motions to the Court for the Court’s consideration in granting Howard K. Stern’s Writ of Mandamus.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2054.
May 19, 2009 The First Court of Appeals issued an emergency stay as requested by Howard K. Stern, on his filing for a Writ of Mandamus. The First Court of Appeals in Texas has Ordered that the trial Court’s Order of May 11, 2009 is stayed until further order of the Appellate Court.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2055.
May 22, 2009 Court Order finding Lyndal Harrington in Contempt of Court and ordering her commitment for the holiday weekend of Memorial Day.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2056.
May 23, 2009 Teresa Stephens Amended Motion requesting More Time to file pleadings regarding more time on Recusal of Judge Lindsay.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2057.
May 23, 2009 Teresa Stephens’ Exhibits A-M filed with her Amended Response Virgie Arthur’s Opposition to the Recusal of Judge Tony Lindsay.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2058.
May 23, 2009 Teresa Stephens’ Exhibits N-FF filed with her Amended Response Virgie Arthur’s Opposition to the Recusal of Judge Tony Lindsay.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2062.
May 23, 2009 Teresa Stephens Response to Plaintiff’s Virgie Arthur’s Opposition to the Recusal of Judge Tony Lindsay.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2059.
May 26, 2009 Court Order releasing Lyndal Harrington on May 26 with the additional Order that Harrington and Harrington’s roommate presents both computers to be imaged and to retrieve the information on the stolen computer which the Court does not believe happened.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2060.
May 27, 2009 Teresa Stephen’s Notice of a new hearing date of June 12 at 9 A.M. on multiple Motions Stephens has pending before Judge Lindsay.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2061.
May 26, 2009 Nelda “Rose” Turner Notice of Submission to put on the Court’s docket on June 15. 2009 at 9:00 A. M. to consider Turners Amended Motion to Designate Third Parties.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2063.
May 27, 2009 Howard K. Stern’s Objection to Turner’s Amended Motion to Designate Third Parties and designated Stern as a Designated Third Party.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2064.
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Rose–That is what I am hoping for “A Pro-Bono Attorney” for Lyndal and my hope is they will counter sue the Plaintiffs legal counsel.
Hmm—-This should help with Virgie Arthur reputation.ALL FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY,
Bev– I read your comment in the Houston Hairballs, you go girl ;-)
I was involved in this case from the get go and stopped posting when things got out of hand.
I’ve sat back for months and watched good friends become the worst of enemies.
JMA, I remember we started talking about jurisdiction a few days back and got distracted. Art Harris, Harvey Levin and TMZ have conceded Texas has jurisdiction.
Texas does not have jurisdiction over Howard, Bonnie and Larry Birkhead yet.
Will we get the transcripts from the contempt hearing?
Mary [5] thanks for the update.
OK I have to ask a question here, why do these people keep claiming that Wilma’s mail was stolen? The reasoning asking because the Biddies’ are using it as part of their attacks on Lyndal in the article sites. Were the Authorities called was there a report done; I mean it is a federal crime so it is not as if the Authorities would just sweep it under the rug. My thought is, those on the dark side added that story of mail being stolen for the drama. They could not figure out how Lyndal got into O’Quinn’s party so they made up the BS that Wilma’s invite was stolen out of her mailbox by Lyndal.
My pleasure JMA
Rose is working on getting those transcripts. I would really like to read them.
Mary– one of my comments is in moderation due to i think I made a boo boo and said one of those names I was not supposed to say, my bad :-(
VA is a limited public figure and she bought this on her self NO ONE DEFAMED HER..Shakle I am with you I have watched it also and tried to stay out of it. Bes to say we will agree to disagree and let it go at that
JMA [10] It’s out of moderation.
Why does McCabe think Art had no right to interview VA so,either on it was all public knowledge So sorry McShame no one defamed yor client and I pray everyday that she gets nothing and loses everything she does have. I know that sounds mean but look what was done to Lyndal and don’t give me any of the court complyin crap/ Lyndals said she can’t comply
JMA, Lyndal would not steal Wilma’s mail and they need to stop saying that about her.
I mean, come on, haven’t they done enough to her. Your right it’s a federal crime and unless they have proof they better start realizing that is slander. Just because she is of modest means does not mean someone won’t help her. They better start thinking about all the publicity she’s getting and she might very well end up with a really good attorney who would love the attention this Texas case against bloggers is going to bring.
Thank You Ken
Mary [14] I know she would not and it pisses me off that they are saying that and there has never been any proof of it, you know like the Authorities called.
OK because Art and I both had to give this stuff and the pictures up… there were numbers of bloggers as well as Pol and Patrik, Greta and Geraldo’s brother all on different paper and we all thought Whoa has this person NOT heard about shredding? There was ONE page; the front page no calls nothing personal on her phone, nothing, that was it… Lyndal lost her car the next week just how was she suppose to go steal mail and I would think the feds would have watched a day or 2… Lyndal got into the party by being charming, vivacious, funny, and really one of the guests who stepped out side for a smoke to the best of my memory really said, “come on in” and that was all it was to it… now if the invitation got lost in the mail, or you telling me that JOQ could not have put someone anyone on the guest list at the front door??? Way too much is being made out of a high school type fun night hey it is here let’s take it… kind of like when I was a teen we papered houses… it was not ILLEGAL, it was I am sure embarrassing and should not have come up as “character” WTF is that????
How many times do those of us who had to turn over the pictures say there was nothing in the garbage that would have cause identity theft, I sure didn’t see it, Lyndal is a very attractive woman, she needs a top lawyer to step forward and she needs this handled and like she told me back in Jan. she has moved on with her life all of this is behind her, she does not blog, she does not read blogs… they need to leave her alone and let her move on with her life… it is simple…
And how anyone could have thought it was ok, funny, she deserved it anything about 3 horrid days in a county jail needs a reality check… Most of us including the ones that were rejoicing could not last 8 hours… let alone 3 days… this is horrible and makes me physically ill when I think about it…
So many lives have been forever changed and over what? Loving a brother or blogging? It is like we got sucked up in some tornado and we hope we wake up and if God intends for this to be a “growing experience” then there are several of us who would like the card and we would get it… we just need our lives back, and Lyndal I hope has one hell of a lawyer step forward to take her case… and she needs to sue the shit out of MELINDA BURLESON IS A LIAR, phone records and emails don’t lie and more then one of us has made that statement… how could you jet set in, lie, see a woman go to jail for 3 days and ever live with yourself??? Not any normal person… that is sick.
Now I will stop my rant and turn the blog back over to y’all.
Here is the URL for this same article in the forums:
http://www.rosespeaks.com/public-forums/showthread.php?tid=60
Thank you Rose for the clarification of how Lyndal got into that party. I like you and many others are tired of the BS that is being made up in order to fit/suit the agenda. I agree once Lyndal’s night and shining armor Attorney [I have faith one will] shows up he can have the pleasure of filing a suit against this MELINDA BURLESON IS A LIAR and all others that have slander Lyndal.
I agree Rose, Lyndal is very pretty and heck the guy who covered the story in the courtroom who is a VA supporter feel in love with her as soon as he meant her. She has charisma out the ass and there is no doubt someone told her to come on in and party.
Rose,
I agree wholeheartedly with what you say.
Imo, This is a war between high powered Attorneys that want to get back at each-other for one having to concede that what they did was unethical and or illegal and had to pay for that, regardless of what the settlement was, bloggers imo in their opinion are expendable and only a means to justify the true goal and of course use for jurisdiction. I feel that when they sent Lyndal to jail and ruin lives it is just another day at the office for them, It is truly a despicable way of trying to get money imo and to try to recover from a previous loss, The bottom line imo is that VA is just a pawn too, they do everything in the name VA but yet concede that the TMZ story is basically true and that is why they withdrew with prejudice in Fed. Crt. This is a master plan imo to gain some sort of control and the true targets are Howard, TMZ, Larry, VA, etc. and anyone else that they can to get out of the way to litigate for 88 million, imo they could careless how they get to their goals and this Plaintiff friendly Judge imo does not care either. imo
And that is why this is so wrong. Name a topic on the net that people don’t discuss. Look at the variety of subjects/articles at Topix alone. People do it. Every day. They read something and comment. Anna’s story just went on forever!
And there were so many aspects that various people got even more involved than a ‘normal’ story.
Just check out the Tyson story on TMZ. Some have well wishes and condolences. Some see a conspiracy/wrong doing. Some think there should be an investigation. Everyday normal occurance to a story on the net.
The worst part is what attorney wants to play against the team of a thousand cuts? The paperwork alone is overwhelming.
If one needs to get up to speed, from a journalist’s pov, just direct them to the topix threads.
They can see the mayhem for themselves and how crazy and vindictive this has gotten.
I want to add to my post #21, That also means using liars and anyone that is willing to come all expenses paid and has the confidence and reassurance that her perjury will be overlooked and not questioned and her need for attention we be satisfied.IMO
I agree we should be aloud to talk about events but that’s not what this lawsuit is about. It’s about a conspiracy to defame VA. McCabe’s position is there was a diabolical attempt to defame his client. And the more I think about this he may have a claim. I can not recall any story where what a person did 25 years ago was even bought into the story. But the reality is the lawsuit should be against the people who actually published and proudly called it VA dirt. And the other reality is this suit would never be going forward if it wasn’t for the power of the O’Q law firm.
I was just wandering in the new forums… where are the smileys? Anyone know?
Liann [21] in reference to “VA is just a pawn” I agree with you 110% and also agree with you on O’Quinn/McCabe doing everything in their power to get back the money they have put out representing their client.
The one thing that bugs the hell out of me after reading McCabe’s same ole same ole claim that due to the Defendants defaming his client she lost her chance for custody or visitation of her granddaughter . Funny once DL was brought back to the states, there was never any mention of Virgie trying to gain custody or visitation here. Remember how the Bahamas courts said it was out of their hands and the fight would have to continue in the states. If Virgie wanted that child or wanted to see that child so badly that would have been her first priority once they land in the US. Instead of a Defamation suit, being filed a custody/visitation suit would have been filed.
One other thing I need to get off my chest here…Who The Hell does McCabe think he is judging where others live and what kind of homes others live in? Is McCabe even aware that many of the people who despise his client due to her own actions and blog about it do not live in trailers and even if they did what is the fucking problem with that. That statement pissed me off to no end. Did he know that his client did or does live in a trailer? Is Mr. McCabe aware that there are trailers nowadays that look like single-family homes? IMO that was a prejudice remark.
Ps,
Just in case the Biddie Bitches are reading [I know you all are] No I do not live in a trailer so that is not why I am pissed off about his unprofessional comment about people who may or may not live in a trailer.
Beth, Please come back! you do so much good and explain and help and you are so good at helping us understand and break down the docs. Your insight means alot to me and I know so many others.
Beth, We are family and as one of the family member posters said so eloquently stated, family does disagree but Please do not leave for good!. I hope you reconsider and know that you are a very valuable member here. I also know that you are a very smart lady that does not deserve any BS, So take your time and I am so looking forward to chat and discussion with you again.
JMA, where is he saying about where people live? I need to read that. That sounds so smug.
Rose, when you click on reply the smileys are there. I had to go to full edit to add a smiley after I posted.
Mary, I just want to also say, I respect you and I am sorry that I reacted the way I did, I know you are a good lady and I know that you are only trying to protect and I understand, there is so much BS being thrown. I just want us all to agree to disagree on somethings and no one to take absolutes.
Speaking of trailors – HGTV once did a one hour show regarding trailor living of all sizes and styles. From the small camping trailor to the million dollar trailors located in a beach community somewhere near Los Angeles. These expensive trailors looked like houses with beautiful gardens, entrances, interiors to die for. If I remember correctly the community was established during a time (maybe the 50/60′s) for Hollywood stars to go for a weekend away from the craziness. My ex-in-laws lived in a mobile home decorated with beautiful furnishings including antiques.
It doesn’t matter what type dwelling a person has, it’s the love and happiness from within that counts.
Rose and Ken – thanks for the new documents. I especially enjoyed reading Butterfly’s Amended Motion More Time. She’s becoming a legal eagle. Sure miss seeing her and Lyndal’s comments.
Mary [29] It depends on which reply button you press. The small one in the post will quote the post you want to reply to and give you the smileys, the large one under it that says “Add Reply” or the quick reply box below all that. Anyone confused yet?
btw, what is the darn symbols for the confused looking smiley?
What everyone needs to get about any comments that sound like someone is showing prejudice or making fun of where someone lives… you can look like you have everything and have nothing, and you can look like you have nothing and have everything… One day I will put up a picture of the custom fireplace I had built in this “trailer”, which BTW why do they call them trailers when they are modular homes… trust me this one could never be moved once it was planted. I love it and it and the land are paid for… I will have to put up some pictures of the acreage, the fireplace and the spring fed creek, when I first bought this place I used to love to fish every spring right here on our land… life is good for us and I worry every day about young couples, both working with huge mortgage payments, and I so worry about them being able to care for their kids, work, keep a job and keep their homes. We have such a nice young couple on the 2 acres next to us (BTW a brick house and a lot smaller then our home… LOL) anyway they have 2 kids, they both work, he has had to change jobs now a couple of times and I can’t help but worry about them… there are a lot of good people out there, hurting…
#34 Rose I can’t wait until we can drop our security and not worry about being stalked.
I want so much to have somewhere to show you guys pictures of Australia and where I live.
I have lunch with Fifi and we talk about you all and love to post pics of where we are and of us… doing the ladies who lunch thing!!
I know the time will come and would love to see Roses fire place and pics of her dogs and her trees.
Febbies Virginia, Tianna’s igloo and Niagra Falls etc, my list after all this time is pretty long. I want to see Houston as well. Feels like it has been the centre of the Universe for quite a while now.
Home is home and it don’t matter what type of home it is . It is just “Home” and I am lucky to have one where I can be safe, warm and fed…oh and the internet….husband…children and my dogs….LOL
JMA says: [199]
>AC [189] in reference to “he most vocal ones are soooo mad that Lyndal is a free woman now.” yes I saw that and frankly expected that reaction from them. It burst their bubbles today when it was announced that Lyndal was being released, they so wanted her there for the duration of 18 months.
I can see getting oneself involved in a virtual debate over a case. But I think some people aren’t able to differentiate between virtuality and reality. To them it’s not real, so they’re not affected on an emotional level. I think a person needs to have something on the ball in order to put him/herself in someone else’s shoes and experience what that person is going through.
>I also saw how pissed they were with you, calling you a traitor and such due to your corresponding with all of us here. I have watched them from the beginning and that is the way they roll. To them it does not matter if you are on the same side, once you show an ounce of compassion for someone from the opposing side they pounce like salvage wolves.
If they think I am a traitor, then I’m a traitor in their own minds. I don’t think most of them even know what I stand for — and have stood for — from Day 1. My perspective is a little different from theirs and I only know TWO “VA Supporters” who have had enough on the ball to put themselves in my shoes.
For me, it’s like this: Suppose I had a sister and she had a boyfriend that I simply didn’t care for. I think that’s something most people can relate to. Then suppose my sister went away to some island with her boyfriend. I’m close to my sister, so I think it’s weird that she won’t answer any of my calls, especially because she’s about to have a baby.
Then my sister’s son, my nephew, flies over to see his mom. Then suppose the next day I get a phone call in which I’m told my nephew is dead. I call my sister over and over to talk to her or her boyfriend. My mother also tries to get hold of them. Nothing. The next time I see and hear my sister is on TV with her boyfriend and she blasted out of her gourd and saying things about our mom that make no sense to me.
So I keep trying to get hold of her or her boyfriend and no luck. In the meantime, all these weird things are going on. Some guy out there is claiming my sister’s boyfriend is not her baby’s father; before my nephew is buried, my sister has a commitment ceremony with her boyfriend; and other weird things, like all the delays in my nephew’s inquest.
Then, not half a year after my nephew died, supposedly from a self-induced overdose, my sister ends up dead of the same thing. Well, now I’m not just mourning the death of my nephew. My sister is dead, too, and I want to know why. I want to know every single little detail. And guess what. Her boyfriend isn’t talking.
And that’s all I want. You can ask Rose or Lucky or my closest friends that all I have ever wanted was to hear what happened out of Howard’s own mouth, and if it took putting him on the stand to force him to talk, then so be it.
In the meantime, though, it turns out that my sister’s boyfriend isn’t my baby niece’s father. I don’t care who the father is, but I do want to get to see and hold my niece, the only living member of my sister’s family. Hey, that’s my niece. She’s my blood. In my mind, my family is being deprived a relationship with my sister’s baby.
That’s as far as my interests are concerned.
Unfortunately, it’s all made even more complicated because my sister married this wealthy old man and she was embroiled in litigation over money she felt she was entitled to when the old man died. Now that my sister is dead, the right to pursue that litigation now belongs to my baby niece. The result of the litigation could make my baby niece very wealthy. It’s doubtful, in my opinion, but the lawyers certainly think it’s worth a shot.
Right now, the one who is controlling who can litigate the Marshall case is my sister’s boyfriend, and that’s because the guy who ended up being my niece’s father basically handed that right over to my sister’s boyfriend. At the same time, though, my niece’s father won’t even let my mom see my niece. I’m like, “Well, that’s not fair.”
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Finally, my mom would probably feel she’d need to go to California and face down my niece’s father, Larry Birkhead, in court, in a bid to be granted court-mandated visitation rights, as well as the steps she would need to take in order to have a fighting shot at obtaining them (i.e., clearing her reputation).
GOOD MORNING ALL—-PLEASE BETH,DAISY.AND ROXANNE,I very much miss you and your input,I WANT THE FAMILY back together McCabe remarks,shows just what he thinks of the average joe,and what his mouth did was to enlighten the public as to why he took Virgie Arthur,s case,Virgie is and was a average joe,without her daughter;s fame,and Dannielynn estate and maybe Marshall money.The fool should not be so obvious.Virgie.s case is all about GREED,and a mother so jealous of her daughter,she had not one good thing to say about her own flesh and blood.I myself would like to know at this point where Judge Lindsay is going.this stunt that was pulled,made a lot of headlines,more comments and more bloggers with opinions.CAN McCABE SUE HIMSELF FOR DEFAMING HIS CLIENT,I am hoping the people in Texas have enough gray matter,to understand,Virgie does not care about her reputation(AND SHE DID NOT CARE ABOUT HER OWN DAUGHTERS REPUTATION) she CARES ABOUT MONEY,AND IS LOOKING FOR A WHOLE LOT.This thing about WV mail ,is planned as a disrtaction,nothing more.
Nice story anony, but you left out the part about your mom going to the media and slinging accusations of murder. Within days of your nephews death. And letting a globe reporter hear the message your sister left on the answering machine to her mom wanting to tell her about her son’s death. And the part about your mom hooking up with SPLASH! News to keep the family feud going. So was there already a family feud?? And what was that all about??
ANONYNOUS CALIFORNIA——-At this point I think, just my opinion McCabe has all but destroyed Virgie reputation.It is one thing to obey a court order,and it is another to take a woman ,who did nothing but voice her opinion.put her in jail.with no bed for 24 hours,all so Virgie can win a financial settlement.harden crooks are treated better,and have a bed to rest,WHAT WAS THIS WOMANS CRIME.she cannot produce what she does not have.THE jUDGE HANDED THIS IN A DISGRACEFUL WAY.
Rose, Oh goodie I get to be the expert LOL
It’s called a modular homes and we have one listed at $425,000.00, not to shabby huh?
So was McCabe talking about you? Well, I’m going to move on from this understanding sometimes we say things that are stupid.
Liann, that was a nice comment you made to Beth. I had my reasons for being upset and will leave it at that, thank you for your kind words to me as well.
Beverly, I never left, would never leave Rose or Ken just dropped the name daisy for personal reasons I’m Mary.
Ken, to make it more confusing you have to put full reply, yeap I’m confused LOL
Beverly, from what I understand Wilma really believes she did it.
Sammy1 [31] you are right there are Million dollar trailers and yes they look like single-family homes.
Rose [34] in reference to, “you can look like you have everything and have nothing, and you can look like you have nothing and have everything…” that is so true.
Beverly [37] I am with you, I too want our family back.
As for that comment McCabe made in the article, what gives him the right to judge where one lives. IMO he was basically saying if you live in a trailer you have no right to express your opinion about his client. Furthermore, IMO he was showing prejudice and degrading those who live in a trailer.
AC, don’t feel bad I’m called a traitor as well. I think if you try to understand the other side it’s a good thing and don’t view it as a betrayal. The team thing was fun for awhile but it’s out lived it’s course and to many people getting hurt. When the stress of lawsuits deteriorates your health or puts you in jail it’s time to stop playing. I’m out of the game and will continue to work towards resolutions, respect and understanding.
Ken all of these seem a little confused to me
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:dodgy:= :dodgy:
Crap they did not work the first time :-( hope they do this time! Mary HELP
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AC [36] thank you for finishing your response to me but I have to agree with trina #38 would your mother have taken the same avenues that Virgie took — the media.
PS,
You left me hanging on whether I am right on who I think you are if I am correct a little ;-) will do.
JMA, I know where you got them from LOL, I tried it too and it doesn’t work. Only the ones I sent you.
but hey why not use them for confusion signs? LOL
JMA——-Am I wrong or does Virgie live in a trailer camp.OR WITH THE MONEY SHE MADE OFF HER DEAD DAUGHTER BUY A HOUSE.
I think VA took that avenue because she took some real bad advise.
Rosespeaks is going to start covering other stories but before I can move on would like to get a few things off my chest understanding a lot will disagree. So let me just say it so I can move on and I respect your right to disagree but please don’t disown me over differences in opinions, like Bev said we’re family and families disagree but they stick together. Because I have come to an understanding in this sage does not mean I would ever do anything to hurt anyone.
I believe mother and daughter loved one another. Anna could have never gotten that upset if there were no feelings of love. When she said her mother will never touch my daughter she was literally out of her mind with grief and we don’t know what Anna believed at that time only that she obviously was not making good choices. Her mom was in shock and also made mistakes but I don’t know anyone on this earth who would have made good choices at a time like that. It is so important to surround ourselves with people who will look out for us when we need them for there are always times in our lives we will depend on them to guide us because those times come in everyone’s life. This story is the saddest and my heart breaks that they weren’t given loving, caring advise and never had the chance to mend their relationship. And my heart aches for Anna’s daughter that this hate continues and no attempts are being made to mend.
And McCabe talks about VA mental condition in his filings and IMO has no regard for his client as he claims. Putting a woman in jail made his client look so evil and the hate towards VA has been turned up a notch. But in reality these lawsuits are out of her control and the amount of people harmed by them will more than likely never mend.
Bev, I don’t think she ever lived in a trailer but could be wrong. I thought she lived in a modest brick home. They are all making money so why can’t her own mother benefit (make money)? I never got why that bother some people.
Talking about houses and such, there was a neighborhood in Blue Springs, up in the KC area, that had some nice houses, not too rich..probably in the $500k range…You would see the nice fancy cars (BMW’s, etc) sitting the driveways and the family would be dressed in really nice clothing, but if you actually looked inside, there was quite a few of them that had little or no furniture and were sitting on milk crates and eating off disposable plates and such. It was a good (bad?) example of the “keeping up with the Jones’s” syndrome.
Mary [52] Benefiting in what way? Still first cup here, so asking for clariication.
Beverly [50] seriously I do not know if she does or not all I know is that supposedly, by property records, she did at one time but of course, Melissa Byrum denies that.
When Anna’s son died she called her mother to let her know but she did not go to be next to her daughter but she went to CNN.
Ok I just read the article JMA was talking about. So he is bashing peple who live in trailers, what a dope. And he is also going to talk about how concerned he is for Dannielynn? I don’t buy that because if he cared so much for DL why would he be dragging her grandmother though the mud. He is perpetuating the anger and IMO has absolute no regard for DL.
Ken, does Rose think McCabe is talking about her with that trailer comment?
I remember an email were Rose told QV to take the article down so what exactly is he talking about? QV published the article so what is his point he has now embraced the very woman who caused all the harm to his client.
Ken, when all those bad loans were being granted I can’t tell you the amount of really nice homes that had no furniture.. Anyone who owns their property outright is doing much better then the majority.
#54, benefiting as in making money (yikes thanks for pointing that one out, didn’t sound right)
pixiesmom5o, I agree it was a very bad choice she made.
Mary [59] Yeah and it still doesn’t, given the fact that she’s making (made) most of her money since Daniel’s death off his and Anna’s death and by means connected to that.
Mary [58] most likely he was taking a swipe at rose, with the trailer comment.
Remember red claiming we lived in a fema trailer with dirt floors?
MARY——-MY OPINION—After hearing time and time again,I just want my mother and fathers love,I understand Anna so well,Anna TRIED to love her MOTHER, and compensated with drinking and physcial ailments Virgie is extremely cold hearted,and I feel soulless.I cannot understand a mother,hurting her daughter so bad at the time her daughter needed Virgie the most,One thing POL and Patrik said was Anna was crying when she heard her mother on TV blaming her and Howard for harming Daniel,never mind what she did when Anna was growing up.then came that STUPID prediction,She knew Anna would do something to herself,she set her up .my opinion again—Virgie was in retirement and now wanted to live a grand lifestyle,she could not get the money from Anna,so push her over the edge,WHAT IS SHE FIGHTING FOR NOW,and destroying so many lifes to get it,MONEY
Ken [62] and she was busted on that yesterday by someone in one of the comment sections following one of the articles.
Did anyone else read the shit RED was posting over in the article sites? Yeah her same ole same ole bashing of Rose, Lyndal and others. Funniest part though she did not fair to well with the people who post there regularly especially when those who have been following the case spelled it all out to them. It was great seeing/reading all the [using Lucky’s word] SMACKDOWNS she received.
If Judge Lindsay drags this case to a jury,they better pray no one lives in a trailer.myself McCabe just screwed up this case good.Dannielynn is the (money child) by now,everyone in the world knows that is what Virgie and McCabe are after,SORRY LARRY IS DADDY,AND WHAT HE SAYS GOES,
Bev, when did VA blame Anna? I know people say that but can’t verify she said it. Do you remember what she said about Anna harming Daniel? I use to believe she said that also but can’t find her saying it.
During one of her last enterviews Anna was crying (I recall how beautiful she was, how hurt she was) saying that Virgie had accused both (Anna and Howard) of hurting Daniel. Anna made that statement so it appears she may have based her statement on what she heard Virgie say.
Mary & Anne– it was Virgie’s 2006 CNN interview with Nancy Grace
October 12, 2006
ARTHUR: I`m reading in “In Touch Weekly” — and with us tonight, the executive editor of that, Dan Wakeford — Ms. Arthur, in here you say, “It was murder, I know it was, and someone has to pay.” In that room, there were only Daniel Smith by his mother`s side, Anna Nicole Smith, your daughter, and apparently, Howard Stern, the lawyer, now proclaiming to be the father of the baby. So if it wasn`t suicide, that only leaves Anna Nicole and Howard Stern.
ARTHUR: That`s true. There was only three people in that room. Danny was one of them.
GRACE: What could their possible motive be, Ms. Arthur? Why would they want to do this to a young boy?
ARTHUR: I don`t have a clue. I don`t know why. I just know that Danny didn`t kill hisself. He did not overdose hisself.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/12/ng.01.html
MARY——Durning several interviews she made the statement when asked what happen to Daniel.’There were three people in that room and Daniel did not overdose himself”I WISH i could remember but i cannot,the same person said,are you accusing your daughter and Howard,of murdering Daniel Virgie answer was (WELL) HER EXACT WORDS i do not know,but she implyed IF THE SHOE FITS THEY BOTH CAN WEAR THEM.
IMO she did not come right out any say which but did agree what the interviewer said. Also notice when Grace says “Why would “they” want to do this to a young boy?” Virgie responds back with “I don`t have a clue.”
“So if it wasn`t suicide, that only leaves Anna Nicole and Howard Stern.”
ARTHUR: That`s true. There was only three people in that room. Danny was one of them.
s/b agree “with” what the interviewer said
my take on that interview is she was blaming Stern.
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Beverly
I am taking a few days break for personal reasons. No worries.
Mary [72] it’s hard to say which one she is blaming due to she says “there was only three people in that room” she goes on to say “I just know that Danny didn`t kill hisself. He did not overdose hisself.” but she does not eliminate Anna from the equation.
So IMO she is saying it could have been either one.
I see what you mean, it was just from my perspective. I do wonder what AC has to say since he is more versed on VA.
#72 and #74 I think, I read in my own search in transcripts that on some show prior to Anna’s ET appearance that VA said the “motive” to harm Daniel could be because J. Howard Marshall had left Daniel a trust fund and he was about to turn 21?
Also let’s remember by the time this was being said Anna had learned the results from the autopsy and knew Daniel had OD… I can’t even begin to imagine what she felt and wasn’t the paparazzi all over Horizons because of VA’s interviews and the tragic death of Daniel?
BTW folks besides Roxanne needing some time off of the blog for personal reasons, we have Heath only being able to be here on limited time because of some health issues and being in the E.R. So we really are down several good mods/adims if there is a problem Ken will try to fix it… LOL, he and Mary both or keeping on top of any moderated comments to come through and I am still trying to figure out the new forums, I think I might have to have a tutorial explaining how it works. They look neat in that you can make all of the comments you want and get email notifications on threads/articles you are following… And I have now found the smileys…
Rose [76] apparently Virgie was the only one who thought a trust was set up for Daniel by J. Howard Marshall to which the family has since denied that there was.
I remember this and agree it had to be horrifying for Anna believing her mother meant her. But when I saw that interview I thought VA meant HKS.
JMA, why did VA think there was a trust? Is VA also the one who said there were insurance policies? Can anyone understand why I believe McCabe when he says she has some sort of memory lose or problems? I really think a lot of what VA says has to do with what someone was telling her.
Rose– if you talk to heath let her know I am thinking about her and hope all is well.
In reference to….”And I have now found the smileys” ha-ha tell heath told ya I did not steal them all
Mary [80] I am not sure why she thought a trust was set up for Daniel but not only had she said there was I think O’Quinn did as well. I’ll have to check some links to see if I can find where it was said.
BOY,as I read what Virgie wants to be compensated for,all I could think of is a very sick greedy woman,She enjoyed a good reputation,because her and her police friends kept every thing quiet.As i watched the actions this past holiday against Lyndal Harrington Harris County Police should be sued.Those were Virgie buddies.she wanted her family feud kept going,she was hoping to make more money off of her daughter and grandson.So how can she accuse anyone of conspiracy to defame.when she was not the least bite concern,if it would bring her more money,SHE ASKED FOR ALL THE PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT HER,as long as she was making money.
I remember JMA and interesting too. Seems to me the information comes from OQ.
What I found so far….
ARTHUR: Yes, Marshall. He was a very great man. I met him several times. And he told me, you know, that he would take care of Vickie and Daniel. I would never have to worry about them, ever, that he would make sure that they were taken care of.
And I know that Danny had a trust fund. I don`t know if he still has it or if they — I don`t know what happened. But he did have a trust fund. But if Howard marries Vickie and Daniel`s gone, that leaves Howard and the baby, to inherit whatever money she has.
Subject: chocolate
.Giving Up Chocolate
I was walking down the street when I was accosted by a particularly dirty and shabby-looking homeless woman who asked me for a couple of dollars for dinner.
I took out my wallet, got out ten dollars and asked, ‘If I give you this money, will you buy chocolate with it instead of dinner?’
‘No, I had to stop eating chocolate years ago’, the homeless woman told me.
‘Will you use it to go shopping instead of buying food?’ I asked.
‘No, I don’t waste time shopping,’ the homeless woman said. ‘I need to spend all my time trying to stay alive.’
‘Will you spend this on a beauty salon instead of food?’ I asked.
‘Are you NUTS!’ replied the homeless woman. I haven’t had my hair done in 20 years!’
‘Well, I said, ‘I’m not going to give you the money. Instead, I’m going to take you out for dinner with my husband and me tonight.’
The homeless Woman was shocked. ‘Won’t your husband be furious with you for doing that? I know I’m dirty, and I probably smell pretty disgusting.’
I said, ‘That’s okay. It’s important for him to see what a woman looks like after she has given up shopping, hair appointments, and chocolate.’
I wish the picture would have been able to be copied also but alas it did not happen But you can get the picture by reading. I am just trying to liven up the day and add a little humor for everyone
Please some one take the Yahoo address off I forgot to delete it thank you
#77 Rose I was only grounded not put in cotton wool although I have a hubby that would if I let him.
They told me it was grief and stress so I have doctors orders to not try and worry….as if that will happen.
I am here, just being quite.
It has been a lot harder on Lyndal.
And Rose you have to take it easy.
#81 JMA I know you used em all cause I can’t get em to work …..:)
#87 Done:)
heath [88] you know dealing with grief and the stress that comes along with it can take a toll on one’s health, please try to think of happier times and take care of yourself.
PS,
I was in there today and they worked for me but OK if someone has to be blamed for using all the smiley’s up let it be me he-he
#42 Mary if Wilma thought Lyndal did it then all the time Lyndal spent on this site moderating every evening and day was very constant, her visits to the chat room etc.
She was in contact with a lot of people every evening.
I don’t remember anytime except the hurricane when she wasn’t.
She had no car as well and her computer was in her office at her home.
So I would need more than they or Wilma think because I would have emails from her and have been on yahoo chat every day and my time zone makes it evening there.
Being a mod you realise the time it takes to do the stats.
She could not have been stalking across town and moderating and chatting here at the same time.
I don’t know why she thinks it Heath
Hope you’re feeling better.
#86 hmm I love that joke and must admit that I do love chocolate, how funny, wish you could have loaded the picture also… BTW can pictures be loaded in the forums?
Mary we will have to agree to disagree on just what VA knows.because i think she knows just what is happening and i can picture a black cauldrin with her and McShame rubbing their hands and saying I got you now my pretty as Lyndal is led of to jail and Judge Lindsay right with them. I think the Sc crew and LB were in on everything from the start and I also think they all tried a baby snatch and if that had happened LB would never have gotten to see his child.Look at how long that firm keeps putting things off so people have to pay more for their Attorneys.As for VA AC Va might just as well have pointed a gun at her daughters head and pulled the trigger as doing and saying what she did. I think she meant just what she said,the both of them not just HKS.Anna should have been careful of the SC crew as we have so aptly found out.
JMA She lied just like O’Quinn lied about the insurance policies and he admitted he lied to try and even out the playing field or so he claims.Why would the playing field need to be evened out? I still do not understand ,even if it was long ago how VA who almost killed her own son with her careless use of a loaded handgun was even given a badge and how she could ever after that have a good reputation.She has admitted to beating her daughter and hand cuffing her to her bed where she had no way to protect herself in the NY court papers that were not supposed to be seen.To bad so sad VA all the world now knows how you treated a supposed loved one shoving her off to a relative that had no money to provide for her care.People forget this is all on the net and can be bought up with the click of a keyboard.VA could have seen either people for the 12 years she choose not too. I hope everyone remember she did nothing untill Anna was gone and that should tell you something.IMO she was afraid Anna would tell all.Remember how she was asked to a reunion with her Grandson and turned it down because she wanted more money. It may have been written by Anna’s half sister but notice VA did not say it was not true.Also people forget the death threats made to HKS and his family I have seen none like that concerning VA. People may not like her but I have never seen any one threaten her life..Dannielynne would not be safe with VA unless their was someone else present ,from the courts to supervise. She has shown she makes very bad decisions and I would hate to see Dannielynn abused like others were in Va family or so Anna her self and Va herself admitted to..Their are other ways to punish a child for misbehavior like grounding,taking away privleges ect.VA could have done any of that and id not She also could have gone to the hospital to see her daughter when she had her daughter and did not and don’t even give be the money part,she came up with it fast enough when she wanted to keep the family feud going. .McShame made a complete fool of himself saying anything at all about someones living conditions and how or where they live.That had nothing to do with anything except to make fun o a defendant.I just sent off an e-mail to the Whitehouse in a comment section about the appointment of the new supreme court justice and said I had lost faith in our court system especially in Harris County TexasI said a lot more but am hoping that because I stated the defendents were all pro se and Judge Lindsay did not treat them fairly that judge and the law firm should be looked into.Hopefully someone will read and at least take a look.It should not matter which political party you belong to justice should be blind and it seems as if in Harris it is not
Rose thanks it was a picture of a bag lady if you have seen one from La or NY as I said you got the picture glad you enjoyed it.I know my last post was long but I meant every word of it and I meant Harris county just in case e have the spelling police here again
Liann I agree it is all about who get control of the Marshall money.I think the Marshalls told o’quinn he could have a nice piece of the pie if he got rid of HKS because he is the one that kept it going for Anna.People forget now days look a the huge sums given in divorce settlements.They want to keep this in Texas so the courts their find for them
Sammy I too miss all our team mates that have left for whatever reason but I think a lot still read as shown by comments made by people who have left..
Ken I don’t think Beth meant anything but saying Hi to pepper.I can’t imagine what turned her so far as she was stalked by the dark side and knows what you guys have gone thru.Some nights I lie awake thinking about the injustice i feel was done in this case and how it can be rectified or if it even can be. When that happens i have to take a few steps back myself
hmm [94] yeah ain’t that something O’Quinn’s story about 7 life Insurance policy and to sweeten it up he claimed they all were paid up to date.
Rose ,ken I have apparently been banned from thr forums.All I tried to dowas reply to Rose in one of her comments.Can someone clear this up for me thanks
#98 hmm I just checked the forum and actually no one is banned, don’t know if Ken fixed before me but have another try..if not send ken an email, he is the guru of all the techy stuff.
hmm, what’s it saying to you when you try to post over there?
hmm [98] you might want to register at the new forums, there’s a member section there too.
Oh, fyi for everyone, not just hmm. The old forums have been closed down and you will not be able to access them. (and for you tattle tales that once you see this will probably go running to yer dream idol screaming “they’re destroying stuff!!”, we just closed it down to *ALL* people…members, guest, etc….and moved things to the new public forums. So go stick it where the….ahh, forget it, y’all probably enjoy that anyway)
Ken [101] OMG do you know them or what ;-) Yep McAss’s phone is probably ringing off the hook and his e-mail box is probably full too
http://www.rcfp.org/
they picked up the story
Would this apply to Art Harris, “Shield Bill” not sure if I am reading it correctly though.
Texas governor signs shield bill
http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/index.php?i=10753
#149 JMA I would think so, although he is one of the defendants that bill was signed on May 13, 2009 and went into effect RIGHT THEN I don’t know when he turned over his computer to be imaged the Order was signed on May 11, 2009 but I would think he will have a HUGE privilege log saying NOPE journalist shield…
Ken, OMG you are a riot, setting here just reading all the comments and when got to, “ahh, forget it, y’all probably enjoy that anyway”….can’t stop laughing.
I have been reading the chron.com article comments and most of the comments are opposed to McCabe and the Judge for sending Lyndal to jail, As they should be, alot of Texans are outraged at what is happening in their state. Hopefully this will open alot of eyes in TX. as to what is going on there. One comment I read just rang so true to me from what I have witnessed in TX. imo, The point of the comment was that justice in TX. is just another commodity to bought and sold by big political contributors. Whomever you are that was a great analogy. I do have great compassion for TX. and respect but the way this whole case has been handled in state court and I am sure for Texans this must be a wake-up call to see were their tax dollars are going and how their own people are losing faith in their justice system. I say some news paper or something needs to take a poll of TX citizens and ask them if this is how they want their justice system and tax payer monies at work and then push for change.
JMA [47]
;-)
Mary [51]
That’s pretty much how I feel, too.
Hi all, I’ve just come back from my holidays and got hit with the news of Lyndal’s incarceration. Now that just seems plain crazy to me. Lyndal if you read this best of luck mate and don’t let the bastards grind you down. Same goes for Rose and Butterfly.
I usually don’t make any comments on Virgie, but it seems to be the subject of the day. I always felt somewhere in Anna’s childhood there was a script established between mother and daughter that was very destructive to both of them, and neither had the ability or will to break it. Part of Virgie’s script had always been blaming Anna’s troubles on “bad company”. It’s not a good message to give a child, because it allows the child to pass the blame for their own behavior on to their friends and tells the child they lack judgement and can’t trust others. HKS was just the last in a long list of supposed svengalis, evildoers and bad characters that Virgie has blamed for Anna’s problems.
I don’t doubt Virgie loved all her children and did her best, but any woman in her early 20′s trying to raise five children blended from multiple parents, without much money or help is going to struggle.
Hi Fifi, I hope your holiday was great! I agree with you 100%, But I also think that VA is the kind of woman that always no matter what has to be right. And always wanted the last word, imo.
Anna left home at age 16 then stay away from her mother and got married at age 26 to the old man she worked with HS 1997 and at lest they were together when Anna was 29 or 30 all this time where was VA and 1997 to the death of Anna why VA did not tell Anna he was bad why she did not go in TV when Anna was alive and said any thing because it was a lie look at Breity’s father he should be the father of the year that is a good father never in TV saying any thing he is just out for his child .VA in the wrong side they try not to give Danilean a diam .Danilean have a father .
Mary [80]
JMA, why did VA think there was a trust? Is VA also the one who said there were insurance policies? Can anyone understand why I believe McCabe when he says she has some sort of memory lose or problems? I really think a lot of what VA says has to do with what someone was telling her.
The story about Daniel’s Trust comes from Anna herself. Virgie has handwritten letters from Anna where Anna talks about it.
My questions are:
1. If there were a Trust awaiting Daniel, what happened to it?
2. If there really was NOT a Trust, why did Anna think otherwise?
FIFI——-You had a mother who cared more about herself,her own needs and wants,and when Anna married Marshall,Virgie has visions of when she retired,she would live in the lap of wealth.and a mother so jealous,of Anna,and her fame.In my entire lifetime,I have never seen a (MOTHER) having two deaths in the family,yet has such little feeling,she went to Splash.did nothing in private,always wanting cameras around recordinng her (GRIEF)Watching Virgie actions,against larry,a father that wanted his daughter,he wanted his daughter before Anna died,you can see what Anna went through,also the lengths Virgie will go to get what she wants,IF SHE HAS TO DESTROY EVERYONE SHE WILL TRY.She wanted money for retirement,and she will try and get it any way she can
Hi Fifi, that was a great comment and is why it is so important to tell your children they are great and fill them up with positive ideas and is why I totally believe in self fulfilling prophecy. Just keep telling them how good they are and that is what you’ll get a good adult. I learned from what my parents did to my brother to never use the excuse for their bad choices on their friends. Make them realize it’s their life and they are the ones who are going to be held accountable for their actions. Teach them total command for their being and only trust in God and what he places in your heart. And of course pray to the Lord for his guidance and protection from evil.
Anyway, glad to see you post and bring it to reality.
CA, I don’t know why Anna thought that. Does VA have the note? You leave me with more questions then answers and until we get better clarification on Annas mental condition don’t know if we will get answers or if we should even ask. Did VA believe their was insurance policies or did O’Q tell her that?
Rose [105] I would think regardless when it was signed it should still apply to Art due to he is a “Paid Journalist”, that’s my opinion anyway.
CA [112] the Marshall family said there was never a trust set up for Daniel. Therefore, my question would be the same as your #2 “If there really was NOT a Trust, why did Anna think otherwise?” was she told there was and if so by whom.
PS,
Thanks for answering me #108
Beverly [113] I agree with you concerning Virgie supporting the idea that her daughter marrying a man old enough to be her grandfather. Yep Virgie was looking out for herself but when Mr. Marshall past away her dreams were crushed.
Two things bother though, Virgie said in her interview with NG, J Howard Marshall was a good man and supposedly told her he would take care of Anna & Daniel, so how come she Virgie did not attend the Wedding and why did she, Virgie and Elaine side against Anna during the Marshall suit.
JMA, what did they do at the Marshall hearing?
The whole thing was Marshall with so weird, he was to old for such a beautiful young lady. And the way his name was bought up by both sides or all sides at Anna’s body hearing was so disturbing to me. Here she is gone, dead and realizing he was on any of their minds makes me feel really sad for Anna life.
Bev and JMA, I also agree supporting your daughter to marry such an elderly man was off. It really seems money was more important then anything doesn’t it?
I have just had the best time posting the link KEN gave,the people of Texas,are going to know why Lyndal was in jail,I want to see McCabe go for a cash settlement now,every change i get they will know what virgies case is all about,MONEY
Mary [119] Elaine sold a video tape. Here read this and notice there are some similarities to what Virgie had said during her media interviews.
Example: “I heard him say he wanted her taken care of,” only Virgie claims J Howard Marshall told her that he would take care of Anna & Daniel.
http://telepixtvcgi.warnerbros.com/v2/news/1105/17/2/text.html
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AC
I actually believe there WAS a trust at one time for Daniel. I honestly think that when J Howard died, that piece of shit son of his and that lawyer that was caught helping him hid assets, did away with the “real” will that actually provided for Anna and Daniel and made the trustfund disappear. I don’t think and have never thought that Anna was entitled to half of the man’s estate but I do whole heartedly believe that he intended to provide for Anna and Daniel after his death and I believe the “real” will did that.
Roxanne [123] didn’t Marshall’s other son suspect Peirce of hiding their fathers original Will?
JMA
Yes he did say that. I believe him. Pierce was caught hiding assests from Anna one time and that is why it got through on appeal onetime before I think.
Rose or Ken
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=2066
You might want to change your preamble to read 1.30pm instead of am
Lizzie, thanks for the catch. It’s been changed.
JMA—-Anna and her mother were already angry with one another by the time Anna married Marshall/Unless I am wrong Virgie lived with Anna in one of the houses Marshall gave Anna,and Virige started in demanding more and more,Anna never got any peace with Virige,as you can see Virgie went back and forth to Bahamas,stayed at the best hotel got private air plane rides makeover parties and that is still not enough.she is looking for millions to be put in her pocket.and will destroy anyone including her own daughter to get whats she wants
new article up y’all
You are right Heath I can get in now I replied to Rose and it said something about it may be spam ect but it is ok now And ken you are right we are not hiding or destroying anything just do not want our words copied and changed to fit someones agenda so suck it up dark side and live with it
Roxie If you read the supreme court papers that were filed i think you will find out you are right Piere was hiding things left and right and when he thought he might be caught it got worse.That is why they got so mad about the papers Howard supposedly got a hold of they showed Pierce lied. i know an attorney from N.O told Mr Marshal he would have to pay a lot of taxes if he that some kind of trust fund provided and mr marshall did not like paying any taxes if he could get away with not paying than this whole thing with Pierce taking over his fathers estate came about.From what I have read he changed date ect and left his father a pauper at the end of his life.To me that was a criminal act in itself.I believe Pierce took every thing he could get from Anna so she had nothing left. Even the Ranch she had.It took me days to get thru the papers and I also read the Marshall side and compared them.apparently the supreme court thought the same way that she should have gotten something not the whole estate but something. I really think that if this came to trial today she would win hands down and that is what the Marshalls are afraid of.Just my thoughts after reading the files.I know in the court files it was said he had wanted to take care of both of them but Pierce and other attorneys wanted him to try another way and before that could happen he passed or I should say Pierce took over his affairs..Every one should remember Anna had nothing and Pierce had the money to pay for what he wanted .Remind anyone of what is happening now?
hmmm
Your right and I truly believe that Pierce got rid of the legit will and “made up” his own that left out Anna, Daniel and his brother. I know the father and brother didn’t get along towards the end but I dont’ believe he was totally cut out. I could be wrong about the brother but that is what my guts tells me. Pierce got caught and that is why it’s still going today.
Rose, may I ask why QV and Havanna were not added to the Motion to Designate Responsible Third Parties? It seems this is where it all started?
Grammy. Good suggestion. Rose didn’t think about that at the time.