Howard K. Moves up Arraignment date in California and Wins one in State Court!
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Howard K. Stern has moved up his arraignment date to April 7, the same day as Dr. Khristine Eroshevich is scheduled to be arraigned. This is good news, in my opinion, as the two defense teams might be able to help each other prepare and go through all of the evidence Danny Santiago and unnamed investigators accumulated in just a tad over two years including the lists and statements of everyone Mr. Santiago and/or others interviewed.
Then there will be the preliminary hearing within 10 court days to “show probable cause”, (since this was a Warrant and not a grand jury indictment the defense teams get a lot more lead way in the preliminary hearing), which will be on or no later than April 22. This hearing must not be later than ten court days after the arraignment per California statute.
The prosecutor must prove all charges and conduct enhancements against the defendants at the preliminary hearing. Howard K. Stern’s legal team, led by Steven H. Sadow of Atlanta Georgia, and Dr. Khristine Eroshevich’s attorney, Adam Braun, will get to cross examine any witnesses and challenge the evidence against either of them at this hearing. The defense team can also file motions to suppress evidence against either of them, remember after the April 7 hearing will be the first time either defendants’ defense team will be granted full access to all of the evidence. However at the preliminary hearing both defendants’ legal team are restricted by Penal Code section 866. The legal teams are only allowed to put on evidence that will establish an affirmative defense, negate an element of the crime charged (I. E. intent for a crime as is charged in this case), and they will also be allowed to impeach the testimony of witnesses.
If the judge determines that the prosecution has presented sufficient evidence to hold both Stern and Dr. Eroshevich, the threshold is not like that at a trial it is much lower for the judge, for trial, following the arraignment and preliminary hearing the judges in California criminal courts normally will then order both to appear for a “second arraignment” on a charging document known as an “information.” That arraignment must occur within 15 days of the conclusion of their preliminary hearing which would be on or before May 7.
Stern and Dr. Eroshevich can ask for a “speedy trial”, which must begin within 60 calendar days from the second arraignment date “document of information hearing”, which would be by July 7, 2009.
It seems to me both want to get this started so their defense teams with their investigators, we don’t know the names of Stern’s investigators, but Dr. Eroshevich’s investigators will be headed up by John J. Nazarian P. I. and his firm Nazarian and Associates, can begin to research the witnesses, interview them, find out who all the state investigators (Danny Santiago) has talked to and all records looked at that were included in the sworn statement of Mr. Santiago used when obtaining the warrants for arrests issued on March 12.
In other news Howard K. Stern won his hearing against Mark Speer on Friday March 27, and so that defamation case is going forward with discovery beginning now. I would think this hearing and beating the “anti slapp” statute of California is a big win and will strengthen Stern’s suit against Rita Cosby and Hachette Books.
It looks like it is going to be a busy spring and summer. We have new Casey Anthony papers up as well including the transcript of the interview with the private investigator, Dominic Casey whom worked for the George and Cindy Anthony family. There are the statements of Roy Kronk and Mr. Hoover the photographer that was in the area and filmed Mr. Casey in November 2008 in the same location where Caylee’s remains were later found. We will try to have all of these coded for you to download later today.
There are also new filings in the Roland Carnaby case that needs to be coded in and then you can look at some of the people listed as witnesses in the civil rights violation trial including the ex-president, the first President Bush.
Lastly, we are waiting on the Phil Spector trial verdict as well, that case was given to the jury on March 26, and we look forward to Sprocket’s coverage of the verdict when it comes in.
Lot’s of papers to read and lots of trials to follow. We look forward to your input on these cases with good discussions of the facts and documents.
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Thanks Rose!
I saw a bit of NG tonight, between helping one of the kids with an essay and some other things going on…
NG said the video was released to the Defense on Casey’s reaction in the nurses station on hearing a body of a child was found.
The public will have access to that soon. I actually do not want to see it, acting or not acting just the idea of a body being found at all makes me so sad.
*Hey! Good NEWS on M. Speers! LOL I never thought his anti-slapp defense would hold water!
Wonder if that was Opri’s brilliant idea? ;)
YOU GO HOWARD K. STERN! PROVE ALL THOSE LIARS WRONG!
Yep! They are falling like dominos, O’Q, RC, MS & JH, SC Thieves, CA False Charges, and finally VA!
It is costing this man so much money to prove his innocence, it is just so wrong!
All of these lies started from Jackie Hatten, then O’Q, DC, WV tried to make the world believe JH’s lies of vengeance. Of course it didn’t help M. Speers spreading all of Opri’s concocted stories either!
I bet LB is so sorry he EVER talked to RC or DO! They have both made his life hell too!
But most of all I am the angriest at the two bloggers who sold their soul to McC and decided to play his evil little game of GET HKS AT ANYONE’S COST!
To anyone who chooses to read this please REMEMBER Rose cannot comment on specifics of the State Bogus Case… She has shown me and many here who she is and to me her heart is kind and good. I say to anyone reading any documents… if something to not seem right to you personally, then WHY ACCUSE, and denote statements and go off huffing and puffing? Why can’t your confusion come in a civil worded question? This is not TOPIX. I just do not understand why or how these insensitive judgments keep happening. We do not know the whole story. I for one will not make judgment on a few isolated statements from someone who was put through an unnecessary hell for over a year. Someone who had no representation at the time. I actually think it was a blessing that McC EVER made contact in the first place.
SO MUCH HAS BEEN REVEALED THAT HAS ACTUALLY HELPED ALL OF THE DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE. I am sincerely glad all of that happened, otherwise this case possibly would not be going to an Administrative Judge if these actions would not have taken place.
Rose, thank you for the update on the Anthony, Stern, and Carnaby cases!
BETH——Cindy Anthony could not be more like Virgie,if they were twins,Again,a mother not listening or taking the time to understand,what there own child was saying.Casey knew she was not ready to be a mom,and sure as hell Cindy knew this.Like Virgie (my way or else) tragic results.Cindy is still trying to pretend everything was fine with her and Casey,(it was NOT)Anna took out her hate for her mother on herself,Casey took it out on her child.I can bet you Moe is a witness,trying to cover taz backside,Also B/12 is a vitamin given when pts are on a diet(for other use as well) an injected into the butt,RED in color,if that is what Moe is complaining her saw Howard give Anna,any one can help a pt with that injection,that is not a crime.Howard living with Anna,helped do many little thing like that(so what)ALSO,I would hate to count the number of pills,most of the public take in one year,for all different ailments.you can bet in the thousands.I will say this till my last breath,Anna needed a Mother,a loving mother,(by the way where the hell was a loving father)ANNA HAD NEITHER.MY PRAYERS ARE FOR HOWARD EVERY NIGHT ,AND I AM SURE ,GOD IS LISTENING.
Congratulations to the defense teams and I am sure the public will become aware what is happening in this case just like they did with the Rita book.
Looks Like Dr. E is on top of the game and having John is such a blessing as he is up to speed with what is going on behind the scenes. I’m sure it will help Howard too.
Beth [1] speaking of Opri I wonder just how involved she is; I mean she is the one who hired Speer’s.
This is great news all the way around. Howard’s legal teams are like energizer Bunnies, they just keep going and going and always seem to pull out a WIN for their client ;-)
Beverly [2] if you are right about Moe being a witness then they need to go back and review his earlier interviews; you know the one where he stands behind Howard 100%. Wonder what he is getting out of changing his story now! I do remember something being said about Shelley/Thompson offering Moe some cash, wonder if he took it.
Morning everyone,
JMA > #6 If that is correct about Moe or any of that bunch whose stories are like Jack Hardings…
There is no way the CA Courts will listen to opinions or just made up stuff without proof.
You are so correct about if any of them do testify; their prior statements would negate the present statements.
Which would make the witness NOT CREDIBLE, and not to be believed. I am pretty sure they take care of those discrepencies before any jury would even hear those lies and be tainted by the same lies.
Though, I honestly think that the DA will NOT go forward on any charges of HKS, if they do… they will not be all of the charges and definately NO ‘time’ would be done. Due to the thousands of others just like him in CA and every other State that have helped their loved ones and family members who were like Anna. That is my take on it anyway, or I should say my hope that it will play out that way.
What makes me mad is that if the TX team is trying to get HKS’s legal license taken away because of the Marshall case… Well, that just makes me furious!
Well, have a nice day everyone. I will be back late this afternoon.
I can’t wait until California gets a hold of what Texas is doing and BTW Brown cooked his own goose.
The only regret I have about this not going to trial is Don, Wilma and team might just get away with what they did unless Brown gets mad enough to do something about it. This entire situation including what Neil is doing to Bonnie and Rose has me completely disgusted with this part of human nature.
Daisy, I so agree with you. In this day and age NO ONE should have the Courts and the Justice system be the place to get harassed and intimidated!
Take McC’s legal license; I SAY! JMHO ;)
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From Facts, please;
QUOTE:
Today’s the day.
1. Defendants shall file their response to Plaintiff’s Motion for California Department of Justice to be Designated As Qualified Recipient of the Confidential Portions of the Deposition of Don Clark [D.E. 253] by no later than April 1, 2009.
http://www.supreme.courts.state.tx.us/rules/trcp/trcp_part_2.pdf
Rule 18a. RECUSAL
“On the day the motion is filed, copies shall be served on all other parties or their counsel of record, together with a notice that movant expects the motion to be presented to the judge three days after the filing of such motion unless otherwise ordered by the judge. Any other party may file with the clerk an opposing or concurring statement at any time before the motion is heard.”
END QUOTE.
See you guys later!
Beth [7] Jack Harding’s story has change with each media appearance/interview, with that; I cannot not see anyone taking his story as to being true. Harding has NO record [in writing] showing Daniel contacted him or that Daniel even spoke to him in person. If by chance Harding did have a conversation with Daniel and Daniel did indeed tell Harding he was concerned about the people around his mother it would have to of been Shelley/Thompson since they were the new comers in Anna’s life.
JMA——Maybe most of those fat heads do not know that with permission of a doctor,Howard would be allowed to give Anna meds.So if Dr E gave that permission.all the liars will look foolish.Howard was not around Anna every minute,and Anna did what she wanted to do.MY self I find it strange Jerry Brown went only as far back to when Howard was around,what about the years before howard,Her old boyfriend even admitted on E-ENTERTAINMENT Anna would find a way to get drugs .BUT you see,Anna was not Mrs Marshall,so Virgie could care less.only after Marshall died,did Virgie giive a damm.
Beverly [11] was it not said that Brown was going back to at least 2004. If that is the case then he will have to look into the time Anna spent in SC when Howard was not there. Laurie Payne publicly said she administered Anna’s medications during that time and Ford Shelley admitted to transporting those medications. IMO if Brown wants to go after those who administered and transported medications for and to a known addict, then he will have to add others to his list.
JMA—–That is how you know Jerry Brown is doing someone a favor.he was not interested in any one else but getting Howard.The timing,everything tells me this was timed just for RitaCosby to try and get out of her lawsuit,WHY because of the SLANDEROUS DON CLARK
JMA…………you know your always more than welcome to come to a good ole Texas style SMACKDOWN.
GREAT NEWS. I had a feeling it was moved up by them to get this crap dropped ASAP and put a stop to more nonsense. I also had strong feelings as to why Naz moved. He can now help her and also testify to things for Howard as well. Howard’s new team prob has their own and will have two REAL PI’s investigating for him. For me its important to have REAL PI’s, not ex and wannabees. The real deal!
I hope Howard has them all pay every dime of all his expenses for this public witch hunt.
Beth…..dont forget the SC clan. I have a strong feeling most of this was their doings as well. Might be the link to the missing pills as grammy said on another thread.
A GOOD LAWYER KNOWS A GREAT CASE WHEN HE SEES IT! HOWARD IS GETTING THE BEST TEAM OF ANGELS EVER.
Lucky [14] why thank you now remember I’ll be the one wearing the red boots ;-)
To quote susieq’s video in another thread, “these boots are made for walking” well that is exactly what mine are gonna do, they’re gonna walk all over those nasty dirty vile Texas size roaches…..crunch
JMA………………….OMG, I love that song, Nancy Sinatra I think it was. I have not seen that old video in forever. Let me see if I can find it. I have a pink tee shirt with those words in brown! My boots are black with hot pink roses! No roaches allowed in the bush, have to use me raid. hahahahahaha
Are you ready boots? START WALKING…………………….
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN IT……………….
YouTube – Nancy Sinatra – These Boots Are Made For Walking (1966)
JMA…..this was one of my faves. Watch all the way to the end when they dance.
YouTube – NANCY SINATRA – These Boots are made for Walkin’- 1966
This one is hysterical. Look at the hunk singing it………………WOW
YouTube – Puss in Boots – These boots are made for walkin’
Sorry folks….having fun with these. Now this one is a remake of the sexy version. Roxy, this ones for you. If you ever come my way, this is how were gonna do it! Western with Willie Nelson. Love this one. Dang, I should have been a Coyote Ugly gal. Missed my calling for sure. I love the part where she smacks the guy.
Good to have fun every once in a while.
YouTube – Jessica Simpson – These Boots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fWSapaU3k0&feature=related
Can I get a YEEHAW. Reminds me of the good ole Gilley’s days. hahahaha This is how the Texas gals do it. This ones the best.
Hey, Lucky I heard the Florida tree roaches are bigger then Texas’s. Just goes to show you just because it is bigger does not necessarily mean it is from Texas
Lucky [20] Oh my drool :p
Hey were all those boots OURS
Oh yes and let us not forget those final words “A BIG TRIUMPH”
[21] Hey, Jessica aka Daisy Duke has my boots on
Roxy………….you best wake up for some fun. She says…..OFFFFIFER? Okay now Im done with me fun for the day. Back to topic.
JMA…..last one. I cant stop listening now. Yeah, where is daisy duke? hahahaha
OLD VERSION……
You keep saying you got something for me
Something you call love but confess
You’ve been a’messin’ where you shouldn’t ‘ve been a’messin’
And now someone else is getting all your best
Well, these boots are made for walking, and that’s just what they’ll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
You keep lyin’ when you oughta be truthin’
You keep losing when you oughta not bet
You keep samin’ when you oughta be a’changin’
What’s right is right but you ain’t been right yet
These boots are made for walking, and that’s just what they’ll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
You keep playing where you shouldn’t be playing
And you keep thinking that you’ll never get burnt (HAH)
Well, I’ve just found me a brand new box of matches (YEAH)
And what he knows you ain’t had time to learn
These boots are made for walking, and that’s just what they’ll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
Are you ready, boots?
Start walkin’
NEW SEXY VERSION……………..
Are you ready boots?
Start walkin
Yee Haw
come on
Let’s go
You keep sayin you got somethin for me
Well officer I don’t mind to say you do
Now your lookin right where I thought you’d be lookin
Legs come handy when law’s in front of you
These boots are made for walkin
And that’s just what they’ll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
You believe you’ve slapped me for a reason (uh)
Now I’m pretending my bendings just for fun
You keep playin where I got you playin (yeah)
These double – D’s initals work to run
These boots are made for walkin
And that’s just what they’ll do
One of theses days these boots are gonna walk all over you
I’m the girl with the good voice who don’t mean you no harm
Just got a way with hazard county charm
There aint no crime in havin a little fun
Strut my stride
Got my sexy eyes
Where my boots at?(hah)
Strut ya stuff come on
Hey ya’ll
Wanna come and see something (uh uh, uh uh)
Can’t touch, can I get a hand clap
for the way I work my back(with the daisy dukes)
Tick tock all around the clock
drop it
Push ya tush, smack that
Can I get a sueeet?
Can I get a yehaw?
You keep on thinkin what you shouldn’t be thinkin
Another two buttons down till you kissin the ground
I’m a gonna send you back home to Eddie cryin
But Uncle Jessie he sure is gonna be proud
These boots are made for walkin
And that’s just what they’ll do
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you
These boots are made for walkin
And that’s just what they’ll do
One of theses days these boots are gonna walk…. all… o…ver…you
Come on boots
Start walking
Come on ladies
Hey ya’ll
Wanna come and see something (uh uh, uh uh)
Can’t touch, can I get a hand clap
for the way I work my back (with the daisy dukes)
Tick tock all around the clock drop it
Push ya tush, smack that
Can I get a sueeet(sueeet)
Can I get a yehaw (yehaw)
Come on Willie (ohh yeah, owww)
Yehaw
Willie Nelson everybody (uh)
Let’s go home now
(sueee, yehaw. sueee, yehaw. sueee, yehaw.)
Gotta change my drool [23] to a MEEEOOOW
21 Lucky
Ha Ha. That’s great. You do know I’m a rocker chic through and through huh?
JMA…..okay watch this one. This is my newest lastest fave song. He looks like my son! This guy will go far.
Okay promise, Im done now.
YouTube – Bucky Covington – A Different World – Official Video
Roxy……………yeah I know. But if you come my way, I will have to teach you some down home dancin, with those tequila shots were gonna do while shit kick. Let me see if there is a rock version I have never heard.
Lucky, this is what we all are gonna do to Texas.
Lucky [29] only problem my Hubby says I have when it comes to those Tequila shots….
Lucky [28] I like that one too.
OMG, this one is hysterical……………………..
glutes-made-for-walking Video
http://vodpod.com/watch/1447255-glutes-made-for-walking
Close to rock as I can find. This is a drag queen version. Funny as chit. Cant find rock for you.
YouTube – Kinky Boots – These Boots are Made for Walking
I’m told when I drink Tequila I develope a problem.
I say
I drink
I get drunk
I fall down
No Problem
JMA………….I loved that one when it came out. Have you ever seen him in person? WOW, is all I can say.
My Mom, love the tequila song. That is what I was telling Roxy, my clothes dont fall off, my fist blows up.
That granny streaking is funny. I wonder how many woman do that at his concerts? OUCH, my eyes.
I drink the whole dang bottle and then ask around to start arm wrestling for the worm! Then I say…..WHAT DID YOU SAY TO ME, YOU WANT SOME OF ME, LETS GET IT ON. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Lucky [33] OMG that was too too funny. Now that would tighten up the Badonkadonk
Hey that looked like them there Fella’s from Texas ;-) Kinky Boots Law Firm
Wasnt they funny as all get out? I laughed my bootaaaays off when I saw that one. Im still dancin in my chair to the sexy version.
OH, wait I found then there Fella’s from Texas. Guess who is who ?
Crap forgot the link for #40
That was funny. I never saw that movie. Heck I dont know, one looked Robin Williams
Lucky, Robin Williams and Nathan Lane
OK my last one. This one seemed appropriate.
Oh and Gene Hackman as the blonde woman.
Dacin so hard I kicked meself off. That was funny as hoot JMA. Thanks for sharing.
Ha
Let’s see how long it takes to get to Topix that we are raging angry alcholoics. LOL
I think moving the date up of this stuff is great. It means that the defense will have faster access to all the statements and can come out swinging hard against the conspirators.
Roxanne, do not forget, the First Redneck’s On The Internet
I am happy to know that the date was moved up by Howard & Dr. E’s legal teams and not for the reasons others were saying. Won’t mention where but I bet you can guess ;-)
Roxy…….wont take long at all. They have no idea how to relax and have fun like we do here.
I too am glad the date was moved up. MOO, the attorney on the left looks like a more handsome Chris Rock. Is it just me?
Lucky [48] OMG, you are right he sure does.
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Well, I have certainly enjoyed all the good chit kicking music today! I may have to have me a makeover and a new pair of boots(did you know your feet get bigger with age? True…I have outgrown mine). Don’t leave me out of the party…I can still shake my little bootay, even though I’m out of practice. Haven’t been a ‘barfly’ in years, but sure remember how much fun I had!
I think I have finally figured out why BamBam needed my info out so bad! If the loons send that bunch of crap to the lawyers, I can guarantee them I will come out of hibernation and travel to the court and tell them what liars they are! Yep, I think they have leaked their evil plot!
Any good Two Steppers in the bunch?
I thought he looked like Chris Rock, too, and the guy singing is a doll!
Flowerz……………..how much fun we will have two steppin and roach kickin. I thought our feet got smaller with age? LOL, mine seem to be smaller. Maybe it is the boots that shrunk. Oh me, better go soak them.
You go girl. They cant ever hurt you with truths. Never
Lucky, did you notice the latest crap they have claimed I said? I fully expect ‘their version’ to be in the next batch of Texas filings concerning Rose. Damn, lying freaks!
Good Morning Ladies,
I love all the boots stuff, I am going to have some fun playing real loud when I am alone and my son won’t tell me to turn the music down….whats wrong with the youth of today????
Just a shout out for Red……..Turtleterror don’t work either…so Surf hawk wasn’t good…Imright was a bit the same and now Turtleterror.
Why bother??? Using a proxy is a red flag anyway, only you clowns do it…
Afternoon everyone.
You know I was thinking…
The other day when we found out that the minute Rose and Ken purchased documents and load them for us, that M*Cabe Sizzles downloads them and takes them for herself to give to others at the Hangout. (w/ this site’s watermark)
LOL If she is SUCH a McC lover? Why in the HECK does she NOT GET THE DOCS from him?
*Maybe she (McC*be Sizzles) isn’t enough of a kiss a*s as people of royalty?
Well, just a thought.
I was going to try and re-read those last downloads but alas, the kids want on and I am beat! Been gone from 8:15 to 2:00 today.
I will try to do some of them later.
Word is that Harris County released some docs finally… The DEFENDANT’S filings and responses. I haven’t checked though, I should have book marked that Court site! Anyway, it seems as if ‘something’ has been happening even if the case is stayed at this moment. Maybe that sleeping Judge doesn’t want to make a bad impression in front of the Administrative Judge?
LOL Now it does not seem like ole McC has the upper hand does it??? ;)
I notice even McC’s royalty site only puts up ‘select’ filings! LOL Keep on a spinning those seemingly winning images! How childish and immature if you ask me!
I wonder if they filed a response to HKS in FL, the deadline is today.
flowerz [54] I saw their asinine claim.
#56 Hi Beth, it’s all at free advertising for Rose Speaks.
heath [55] now that is funny.
I was reading over on the dark side I think it was yesterday and some were high fiving Bama for having Dr. E’s mug shot pic. Thought it was never released; what did she do alter an old picture of her? Oh and the spamming on the board with those Pro-VA site links, now how desperate is that.
This is about as much as I can say about the pending state case in Texas, remember I did not see a transcript of the hearing held on Dec. 11 until mid January or later and I did not see the changed Agreed Craig Ball Order until a few days after it was sign on Jan. 27.
I was acting on good faith on what the judge ordered from the bench during the Dec. 11, 2008 hearing, which is all I had to go on at the time. To address some of those fears I have taken the parts out and them up so if you hear rumors you will be able to refer back to this. This document is also listed on the front page of the site.
December 11, 2008 Judge Lindsay in the hearing Order from the Bench that Virgie Arthur through her attorneys were entitled to the documents listed here. So if you hear you are on “the list”, you might download and see if your information is on this list before listening to gossip and feeding into the fear mongering out on the internet.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1795
Lucky,JMA Thanks for the fun links, Lucky yes that guy did look like Kid Rock, Enjoyed the songs so much,I remember up here the rage was white gogo boots and I owned a pair that I wore all the time and yes even danced the pony which was one of the dances shown, I would dance around the house to that song,These boots are made for Walking.Every where,at that time,The country western bars played that song,What a blast from the past.Luck if the gentleman looked like your son he is a handsome boy.Boy you guys made my day I have been sitting here dancing in my seat and playing drums on my desk.
I guess getting the case moved up will help in the long term cause Howard has to be proven guilty and IMO he won’t and can’t be ,If that happens he can use it against Cosby to show just how rabid they were in going after him.I really don’t understand how Chin even allowed that in the cosby case it is nothing proven.I guess we watch and see what and how fast the Cosby team try’s to move this.IMO Cosby tried to bribe someone and they still have not even bought charges against her,Whats that about?
Jeez I hope anyone that could changed their e-mail address so they don’t get the hate mail some of these people send out,I belong to a blog from Alaska and the woman finally showed some e-mails she received like I am sure some of you have received ,just because she filed an ethics complaint against someone. They were as nasty as the burn your house down and kill yourself were on TMZ and topix. I guess people all over can show the same lack of respect for anyone but themselves.Only their opinion matters
To answer the brain dead on the other side,Anna would be alive today,if the RN,did what she was there to do,Care for Anna,and that did not mean spending hours with a computer and TV,it meant checking on Anna,and Anna was depressed,not only about her sons death,but about a mother,who found the need at that time to call her daughter and Howard a murderer,(thats the kind of love POOR VIRGIE gave her daughter,You can talk till your blue in the face, those fools will never see it.ONE of the fools even said,you always blame the mother,Anna was a adult,another stupid statement,No matter how old you are,you always till the day you parents die look for there love.How she has treated Larry these last two and a half years shows only part of what Anna went through,the other side should stick to CP they have no brain power of there own.or stick to what they know best Trailer Trash mouths.They get a A FOR MINDLESS DRIBBLE
Beverly I guess in their demented minds they feel VA showed her love for Anna by going on national television accusing her and Howard for being responsible for Daniel’s death. I agree with others points concerning VA, she was not there physically or emotional for Anna when Anna needed her the most.
By the way, has it been determined whether VA is a public or personal figure? IMO VA made herself a public figure the moment she planted her ass on television letting the entire world know she was the estrange mother of Anna Nicole Smith. As for what is shown on public records pertaining to VA/family, it is to be expected when a family member becomes a celebrity. Especially so when someone from the celebrity’s family goes to the media, therefore stirs up interest into the entire family’s life/background, which in the end results to research.
Hi Wulfie. How they hanging?
I’m gonna step back and let Beth respond from here……
JMA—–I have not heard they made a determination yet.They had Anna story on E-entertainment again this evening,and I payed great attention to Taz comments,and again it made me sick,that King Eric wife had to tell Taz to look at Anna,Taz is a sorry excuse for a nurse and friend.I will tell you till the day My mother and father died there was a safe feeling and a secure feeling,no matter what happen they were there for me,Anna never had that,and a stupid statement that Anna was a adult,makes me angry.
Beth, if you can and are on come to chat, thanks
R.C she is just like Mury’s wife she was a good T.V reporter and by acting stupid she lost every thing. I thought that the reason of Anna’s death was the sleeping drug not by a injection . This remind me with a movie was a true story I watch it almost ten years ago .was about a teen was found dead at a factory where she was working when she went to pick her pay . The police could not find any thing to arrest anyone but the people want to put one of the top people of the company in jail so the people kidnap the man in and hung him and after almost 60 year a man said that he saw the man who killed the teen and not the one who the though he did the move was the death of may fagen .It reminded me of the dwelling on try to put H.S away for nor reason no mater what.
flowerz…………..yes I read it. All bs and the good bloggers know it. Don’t sweat it. Its all bs. We know what you said and how you said it.
Heath……………no kidding? Red uses Chicago proxy and turtle dude? Who knew?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I listen to music all the time louder than my sons I think. I blare it on the beach too. They just dont like our music is what it is.
Rose……………there are many rumors out there and most are confusing two different stories as they always have. One being list of whom was added by McCabe. Two, being the list sent off to the FBI in regard to the hacking or breaching of this site. When two stories collide, as they tend to do on purpose to cause more confusion, then the real truth seekers get lost in the commotion brought on, on purpose. Hope that helps.
hmm…..TY, we had a wee bit of fun today. My Mom had those white gogo boots too. She wore with her mini skirts when she and my dad went out. I went to look for her old stuff for a costume not long ago and it was gone she said. grrrrrrr, I wanted them badly and she keeps everything from back then.
Roxy………..please no, not hanging again. Scary thoughts of big orange moo moo’s again? Say it aint so. I might throw up and Im having too much dancing to music. Even that would scare any wolf/wulf away howling in fear.
These will put you to sleep. Nite
YouTube – Alison Krauss & Robert Plant – Trampled Rose (Tom Waits)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7a85yBt4Wk&feature=related
YouTube – Robert Plant & Alison Krauss – Please Read The Letter (Live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axhLruo9SqA&feature=related
YouTube – Alison Krauss – There Is A Reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWXNm9b6pKs
YouTube – Alison Krauss ~ The Lucky One ~ Live
Liann,
Sorry, I just got back home a bit ago. I would have liked to have went to chat with you.
I do not check my e-mail all the time, but if you ever want to talk or set up a time to meet…
You can go on the main site and send me a personal message that will come to my email.
http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-articles/what-digital-watermarking.html
WHAT IS DIGITAL WATERMARKING?
Author(s): Stephanie Paul
“With millions of Web sites flooding the Internet, it may seem easy for on-line pirates to copy and paste information, images, video and audio from one Web site to another, blatantly infringing on someone else’s copyright. However, owners of copyrighted materials on the Web can take advantage of “digital watermarking” in order to protect their materials from being duplicated without their permission.”
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“#56 Hi Beth, it’s all at free advertising for Rose Speaks.”
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My reply to you is:
~~~ The only thing worse than a liar is a thief, and the only thing worse than a thief is a liar ~~~
Also, my time is too valuable, my ethics are clearly different than yours, and I know my heart is in the right place.
I wonder how any of you few on the other side would respond and act if these injustices were done to you or one of your family members.
False accusations ruined Richard Jewell > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell
False accusations ruined the Ramseys > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patsy_Ramsey
There are only about 5 of you that continue to spread hate, lies, and complete falsehoods that have been fed to you by people who have a obvious agenda and clear reasons for destroying HKS.
I honestly think that you few do not even believe half of the stuff you write down for people to read.
So, that begs the question of your reasoning to WHY you few continue to accuse this man of having intent to harm the two people he clearly loved.
My heart and soul cannot wish any of you ill will, but I truly hope that someone, someday does exactly the unnecessary harm that you are doing to others. Only so you people can truly see and feel what it is like to be publicly humiliated and harassed with lies and false accusations.
I mean honestly, do you people CONDONE what RC wrote in that book of lies?
DO you people really think that McC’s wording in his legal filings is brilliant? (Do not even get me started on that one, it is beyond absurd)
Well, most likely nothing will get through to you few. I feel in my heart you do not even believe the praise you give to ANS’s bio-mom,
and you few really DO SEE that the only conspiracy to do any harm was done by McC, DC, WV, RC, DO, MS, JH, MH and a few others.
One last question, when that Texas cabal starts going after LB with a vengeance after they are done trying to tear apart HKS.
Are you all going to jump on that bandwagon too?
So, I take it you agree and believe everything the ‘absent’ Jackie H. stated on TV?
I take it you believe what O’Q said on TV? As in his sworn depo he said differently when forced to go under oath.
The same with VA, DC, ect… Just wait until those sealed depositions are released!
You guys talk about HKS in FL on the stand, BUT NONE OF YOU say anything about VA and her LOL > ‘family friend’ David Leigh from Splash magazine.
I am sure you get the picture, don’t you?
HI! Just wanted to let ya’ll know I’m still here, in heart. Life has become hectic and I hope to get back in the loop soon. I try to read daily, thank-you Rose and all commenters(LOL, is this spelling right) for all the updates and the deciphering of legal mumble jumble. Later!
#73 Beth- I agree, Cheers!
GOOD MORNING ALL——This is addressed to the person,on the other side who said everyone turned Anna against her Mother,(what turned Larry against Virgie?)could it possibly be OQ on TV telling the world Virige will take his child and he can visit her,whenever (lard butt) deemed he could,Could it be the knife in the back,Anna felt from her own mother a thousand times Could it be Virgie Arthur has NO SOUL,JUST GREED IN HER VAINS.Howard and his Attorney will be able to know more after tuesday,and will answer all complaints,listed I have no fear of that, NO ONE knows about Anna medical problems,so the experts on the other side who think there are doctors and know what all meds and there use,STAND BACK,I do not think you will learn anything,your brains cannot or will not let knowledge and intelligents in.NOW YOU CAN CP and rip my comments apart,for that what you do best,It does not require brain power.
#73 Beth a very good post, thankyou.
BETH —I too love your comments,but there are two kinds of people,those with a open mind and those that speak or write,without thinking,They will read your comments and get nothing from it.That group will only take a intelligent comment,and as usual make fun and with there filthy minds,it will come out in there comments.Trailer Trash minds have Trailer trash talk.
OMG Beverly! I totally forgot that O’Q had said that!!! LOL!!! Can you imagine what Larry and Howard must have thought? That alone is so very telling!
When are we supposed to find out about the judge? I thought it was a three day deal? I know I’m always the pessimist, but I keep thinking there will be some nutty loophole that will keep Lackey Lindsey on the bench in this little debacle.
Butterfly~KICK ASS LETTER!!! Now everyone else needs to do the same!!!
Beth [73] excellent response back to old Wulfgang, you tell it like is girl ;-)
Beverly [76] oh but don’t you know those VA supporters say that isn’t so, VA just wanted to be a Grandma. Nevertheless, they could never come up with a logical explanation for O’Q saying differently. They act as though we never saw/heard O’Q saying those things concerning VA having DL and Larry visiting with her.
The one that sticks in my mind is when VA said she brought Danny’s baby shoes and T shirt from his birth at the hospital with her to his grave. After a hesitation she said they were hers. This was just another FU to Anna while she was alive. I’m sure these were items Anna wanted back that her mother wouldn’t give her.
Grammy [83] it was said Anna had asked Virgie for pictures and Virgie refused to give them to her and then go figure Virgie sells them to Splash.
Pepper [80] where is Butterfly’s letter?
JMA, Good morning girl!
I am on my way out the door.
Look on pg 210 in a
post from Freebie.
(HKS/LB reunited-tmz)
Beth [85] was able to view letter, thank you.
Another roach comes out from behind the woodwork. Anna’s parents to team up for wrongful death suit. It just never stops. LARRY, get the best protection for the child as you can! Now after all this time, the estranged dad wants to see her. They never cared to see Anna and Daniel, but with money attached, want to see precious Dannielynn. No visits when she was born though. Sick idiots in this world. Larry, your next it seems.
At least the Goldmans were daily in the lives of their daughter and grandchildren. They deserved it. They loved her unconditionally. This pathetic.
Anna Nicole’s Dad on Howard K. Stern: “I Blame Him Totally for Her Death” – E! Online
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b107327_anna_nicoles_dad_on_howard_k_stern_i.html
GOOD JOB BUTTERFUL…….KICK SOME TEXAS ASS!
OMG…….BUTTERFLY, GUESS YOUR A BUTTERFUL. SORRY. YOU GO GIRL.
this people try to just get some money is not her father was jail she did not even seeing him for a long time and Anna OD years before she meat H.S .I think J.B should be proud of him self to charge a man because of lies .
V.A said at N.G before Anna death that Ann left home and she was using drugs .
You know,if there was any way I could say,to a useless mother and father,you both need a good physiologist,I would scream it a them,daddy was never there for his daughter.but jump on the make money off are dead daughter bandwagon.I QUESS TRAILER TRASH IS TRAILER TRASH.
Lucky [87] Hogan does not stand a chance. Apparently, no one has shown him the stipulations for filing a wrongful death suit. Ron Goldman’s parents were involved in his life were as Anna’s parents were not. Billy Smith cannot file a wrongful death suit either; he was never a part of his son’s life.
the only bad thing that H.S did that he loved Anna more than he loved himself .I thin O.Q want his money back from H.S . Anna said in the E show that her family think that Anna a bad seed she said that a her last one when her cousin cam to visit her .She said that do not want bother with her .
JMA, I bet they can in Harris County. I wonder if the Marshall’s are helping OQ foot the bill for all this mess?
I also would like to know what pc experts JB used to check Dr. E’s pc, wonder how we could find that out.
what is bad that legal mind like N.G , G.R,Lisa Bloom ,G.V.S and G.V watch thing this way and allow it to take place and talks about it .It seem to me that when G.V had H.S in her show she looks like she felt his pain.If she thought he was guilty she will never allow him in her show .Sham in J.B.
Hey everyone. Got my PC back here at home (glad I didn’t have to cough up mega bucks for a new one). I’ve been reading a littlel. Just taking the time out to check in.
I watched some of the Anna special that was on E last night. And one thing Larry said on the stand in Florida was — she took drugs, sometimes she took more than she needed, one or two more maybe three. He didn’t say Howard feed them to her he said she took drugs.
IMO the case in CA is total BS. And I do think that Texas in in for one hell of a bull ride.
I liked your letter Beth.
OK HOLD ON HERE!
NO, NEVER WILL HAPPEN!
Bio-dad:
Is this the ‘so called father’ that left ANS when she was 9 months old?
Is this the man that went to prison for a rape? Was it a rape of a minor? Wasn’t it VA’s sister? Did this man EVER pay child support?
*Oh, yes didn’t ANS meet up w/ her estranged bio-dad in 1993? Didn’t she choose to HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM AFTER?
**So, for FOURTEEN YEARS in ANS’s Adulthood (age 25 to 39 years old) ANNA DECIDED for this estranged bio-dad of hers
NOT TO BE NEAR HER OR HER SON at the time she was alive.
Bio-mom:
Is this the woman who handcuffed ANS to a bed post? Is this the woman who kicked this child of 14 or 15 (
Anna) out of the house? Is this the woman who made her leave to live w/ a relative? Is this the woman who has said publicly that Anna used drugs?
That Anna used drugs in her teenage years? That Anna used drugs BEFORE ANNA EVER, EVER, EVER MET HKS??????
Is this the woman, Anna’s bio-mom that tried to hurt Anna after DWS passed away; by keeping that ‘family feud’ going? Is this the bio-mom that said to LB, yes come to TX for DWS’s memorial it will really eat at Anna? (or something to that effect) Is this the bio-mom that REFUSED to give her estranged daughter Daniel’s pictures? Is this the bio-mom and bio-so called grandma that decided INSTEAD to show how much she loved her daughter by SELLING THESE SNAPSHOTS (100’S OF THEM SHE TOLD GVS) FOR $5,000?????
NOPE, YOU bio-dad & bio-mom have NO STANDING BY LAW to file a wrongful death suit! NO, you two have NOT LOST ANYTHING as YOU BOTH and ANS had chosen long ago to have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER!
This woman was almost 40 years old! NO ONE made her take the prescription medicine she needed for pain, or for her seizures. NO ONE made her take the stuff to help you keep the weight off, ect….
Anna, was sick with a high fever, she was run down from the last 6 or 7 months that she had a child late in life, then lost her child within days.
***HKS HAD NO INTENT TO HARM, HER DOCTORS HAD NO INTENT TO HARM. THIS WILL NEVER BE PROVEN BECAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE!
A wrongful death suit has to have certain guidelines to be met legally before a suit of this kind can proceed in any Court of Law.
Bio-mom & bio-dad >>> DO NOT MEET ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS! IMHO >> It is absurd to even say it would be tried! (Even in Harris County TX!)
NCUser,
Thank you. LOL It makes me feel better to get some of these injustices off my chest!
I figure if my posts get too long, people can just pass them by if they want… It is actually calming to me to type out what I feel on this saga.
I am very glad you got your computer back. I hope that it will not give you anymore troubles.
flowerz,
I got this from; Texas Trial Lawyer.com It looks as though the only criteria Arthur and Hogan meet are that they were the parents of Anna Nicole Smith. Check out the section “WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT DAMAGES” it says “dependant upon the relationship.” There was no relationship between Anna and her parents they were estranged.
Wrongful Death
WRONGFUL DEATH LAW
Wrongful death is under tort law and is designed to compensate for harm to a person resulting in death. A wrongful death lawsuit holds that the decedent was killed as a result of negligence or other liability, and that the surviving dependents or beneficiaries are entitled to monetary(money) damages as a result of the defendant’s negligent or gross negligent conduct. Each state in the United States has is own wrongful death statutes or wrongful death laws that govern wrongful death claims and wrongful death lawsuits.
WRONGFUL DEATH BENEFICIARIES
Wrongful death beneficiaries usually include:
• Surviving spouse of the deceased;
• natural born children (minor or adult children) of the deceased;
• adopted children of the deceased;
• parents of the deceased;
• grandparents in some states under specific circumstances and
• siblings(brothers & sisters) of the deceased in some states.
WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT DAMAGES
Wrongful death damages are dependant upon the relationship of the plaintiff to the deceased.
These wrongful death damages to the wrongful death beneficiaries may include:
• loss of companionship;
• mental anguish;
• past medical expenses;
• loss income;
• potential financial contributions and inheritance;
• funeral & burial expenses;
• loss of consortium;
• loss of support;
• Loss of benefits caused by the victim’s death (pension, medical coverage, etc.);
• Loss of care, protection to the survivors;
• General damages and
• Punitive or Exemplary damages
WRONGFUL DEATH SUIT- WRONGFUL DEATH CLAIM
If you or a family member have lost a loved one due to the negligent conduct or grossly negligent behavior of another, then you may have a right to file a wrongful death lawsuit against these wrongdoers. Due to the nature of a wrongful death case, a full investigation of the facts of the accident and preservation of the evidence is essential to success.Time is of the essence, Don’t Delay.
I believe that Hogan hasn’t been paying attention to all of the problems surrounding the death of Anna Nicole. He can’t file even if he joined forces with Virgie. Now wouldn’t that be a kick if she did join forces with the man that raped her sister ! Talk about someone being on drugs !
Anyway, another warning to Birkhead, watch your back man because they are coming after you and it doesn’t matter who you think you can trust, do what is right for Dannielynn. No one else should matter in this but your daughter.
By the looks of this, Donald Hogan’s time to file a wrongful death claim has run out.
Time Limitations:
If you have lost a loved one due to the carelessness, recklessness, or negligence of another you need to consult a Texas Wrongful Death Attorney as soon as possible. There is a time limit for filing your claim so it is important to act quickly. The time limit or statute of limitations in Texas for a wrongful death suit is two years from the date the claim accrued. There are some exceptions to this rule, however so seek the counsel of a Texas Wrongful Death Lawyer if you feel you may have the right to file a wrongful death suit.
Great info JMA!
I am at my older daughter’s house now so I hadn’t had a lot of time for looking into the criteria of what is needed.
*You are right! The only requirement they meet is that they are the biological parents.
Love this >>> “Time is of the essence, Don’t Delay”
Bet me Buckwheat!!! I think over 2 years MAKES IT WAY TOO LATE!
Besides, all of the other 5 or 6 civil law suits that VA and her team of legal eagles > (NOT!) Well, this would just look like a personal harassment of HKS…
WHICH IT IS!
JMA> pst > check out the new filings on the royalty’s place…
I am off to go out to lunch w/ my daughter… Be back this afternoon or early evening.
DiamondGirl [101] oh yea I had forgotten all about that. How disgusting would that be for Virgie to join forces with him? But then again nothing Virgie does when it comes to making a buck off her daughter would surprise me.
Forgot to add the link for my post #102
http://www.shezadmalik.com/lawyer-attorney-1348881.html
Beth you sure do give some great advice to people from the dark side and great answer to wolfy
To The Idiot That Keeps Googling My Name:
Find out anything yet? Some new info maybe?
If Billy Smith were to try to file a Wrongful death claim on behalf of Daniel, he would be wasting his time as well. Billy Smith had NO relationship with his son.
I know by personal experience. When a drunk driver hit my daughter’s father and killed him, she was not included in her stepmother’s wrongful death suit due to the courts considered her as the estranged child. Her father had nothing to do with her when she was a child or as an adult. She tried to establish a relationship with him when she became an adult [18] but was unsuccessful, six years later he was killed.
Oh and the only reason my daughter did find out about the suit was that before the courts would settle the suit with her stepmother they need to know if there were any interested parties. That was when her stepmothers Attorney contacted my daughter and when they found she did not have a relationship with her father, she was eliminated.
At least she was contacted when he died and was able to attend the funeral, how noble of stepmother.
Butterfly writes a letter in support of HKS motion to recuse and she accuses Rose of committing colusion? She said she had personal knowledge of Roses intent to HARM other defendants? WHAT? High fives all around for Butterfly? Seems to me she is undoing everything the defendants lawyers have been working on to prove that McCabe tricked Rose into doing that Motion for 3rd party leave. She is blatently accusing Rose of flipping on HKS and the other defendants. I don’t believe Rose has flipped. She’s not QV or Havana who stopped their support supposedly because HKS “lied” in his depositon about knowing them. Why would he know Havana by the names of Havana or Sweet Havana? Those were her email addresses from what I have seen. By her own admission she had no personal contact with HKS. Why would he know who she was? Reading the papers on that other site a while ago McCabe hits hard on Butterfly’s hospital stay and he says that Butterfly has “no revelant or personal knowledge of any of the facts”? Then why the hell are you suing her buster?
April 2, 2009, Don Clark has agreed to release his sealed deposition to the California DOJ and Bureau of Narcotics specifically to Danny Santiago, now that Howard K. Stern has been arrested and charged with the conspiracy to give Anna Nicole Smith prescription medication.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1796
March 30, 2009 Teresa Stephens Letter to the court supporting Howard K. Stern’s Motion to Recuse Judge Tony Lindsay in the case of Virgie Arthur vs. Howard K. Stern, TMZ. Larry Birkhead, Harvey Levin et. al filed in the Texas state court in Harris County.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1797
April 1, 2009 Defendant Art Harris’ Joinder in Defendant Howard K. Stern’s Verified Motion to Recuse the Honorable Tony Lindsay supporting Howard K. Stern’s Motion to Recuse Judge Tony Lindsay in the case of Virgie Arthur vs. Howard K. Stern, TMZ. Larry Birkhead, Harvey Levin et. al filed in the Texas state court in Harris County.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1798
April 1, 2009 Plaintiff, Virgie Arthur Supplemental Statement Opposing Defendant Howard K. Stern’s Verified Motion to Recuse the Honorable Tony Lindsay.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1799
April 1, 2009 Plaintiff, Virgie Arthur Motion to Cancel Deposition of Neil McCabe or in the alternative to schedule the deposition on July 1, 2009 or July 31, 2009.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1800
April 1, 2009 Plaintiff, Virgie Arthur Motion to Cancel Deposition of Nelda Turner (“Rose”) or in the alternative to schedule the deposition on June 30, 2009 in Houston, Texas.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1801
April 1, 2009 Plaintiff Virgie Arthur Response to Defendant Nelda Turner’s Motion to Quash Deposition Notice and Motion for Protective Order; in this Response Arthur says in part “it is imperative that Turner’s deposition occur immediately…Besides, if Turner is at death’s door, that is all the more reason that her deposition should be videotaped, so that, in the event of her death before trial of this case, the jury can have benefit of viewing her testimony and be in a better position to assess her lack of credibility”.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1802
Justhad to come on again and comment on Anna’s bio dad WTH does he think he is raping a 9 yearold has he lost his mind people in prisons for that are killed.Wonder how the VA supporters like Mrs Marples will spin this,.The man almost made her lose Anna and raped her sister and now they want to join forces.IMO the only thing stopping her is those facts and her attorney saying no.Talk about losing anything she might have,Hoep all you people from the darkside re4ad that link!!!!!
Would somebody tell me how do you get through to MINDLESS MORONS,I know the other side reads here all the time so,I am tired of saying TAZ TAZ TAZ,Howard left Anna in the hands of a RN who showed she could care less about Anna,at any time 911 COULD HAVE BEEN CALLED,all Taz had to do was check Anna,THE wrongful Death is TAZ TAZ TAZ FAULT not howard,s.A lazy careless incompetent,nurse.
Pepper [80] and the others who read Butterfly’s letter and are giving her high fives and way to goes, I got a question or two. Do y’all agree with the letter and everything she states in there? Do y’all believe rose is actually guilty of the serious accusations she was leveling at rose, especially the part about harming the other co-defendants and working in collusion to commit fraud with McCabe? If y’all don’t agree/believe that, then how can y’all be saying it was a great and powerful letter?
Thanks Rose I had forgotten i had a bookmark for Harris county and read some of them but did not see Arts or the ones for Mcshame or you being deposed.Looks like they do not want McCabe deposed before you ,makes one wonder why.McShame should remember his and Clarks bully tactics do not work everywhere.It is funny that we hear nothing about anyone harassing VA like they have other people so where and how was she hurt.What was said was true as shown by her statement in the Cosby case.Her and her ex Hogan make a good pair JMHO Do those people on the dark side treat their family like VA did and does? Makes one wonder. If they thought they had such a good case why would they care if it was in a different court??I know why it was a questionfor them and the dark side that read here.
Beverly, I agree, and can’t help but wonder if Taz gave Anna another swig, so she could snoop on her pc and other things. I did not like Taz from the minute she opened her mouth. It was obvious she didn’t like Anna, imo!
Beth, you go girl!
DG, I agree, they will go after Larry if they can get Howard out of the way, he best watch himself because they for sure are. I wonder if he can feel them watching him?
Lucky, I knew yall knew how the story went, but after the header Bam posted and then my town showing up, I think she had plans to put my name on some crap to send to McAss.
Reading those documents of Mc is like reading old news, I swear it sounds like those nuts from T wrote them all…right down to that horrible statement that he needed to get Rose’s testimony before she died. What a rotten, pathetic thing for a lawyer to say about someone…he fits right in with those idiots, I believe I recall that remark word for word out of their mouths!
I notice he only puts up parts of any thing and not the whole thing trying to twist things,I hope everyone involved including the 40 people write and let the judge know what they think.This has gone way to far whe a person cannot speak their mind without fear of a bully IMO like McShame coming after them because he does not like what they have to say.McShame should have lost his license when he was kicked out of teaching and with all the Illegal things O’Quinns firm has skimed thru he should have also and again this is just my opinion.As far as sending e-mails or videos to an attorney that does not mean they work for you.I think McShame would like to say that because then he could say Lin wood was in on it also LOL This whole thing started way before Lin Wood came on board
AS for McShame having someone in the room with him are we really supposed to believe that happened I don’t think so and his cohort don’t count they would say what ever he wanted to keep their jobs.I am sorry but I read thru all the Garbage McShame sent to the courts and I saw red.Does he think his word should be taken over someone else.I don’t think so.He is no better or no more honest than you or I probably more dishonest from what I have seen in his filings He lies and twists things and shows partial things to make people think his way Ok off my rant on McShame
WHAT? WHAT? MCSHAME HAS CROSSED THE LEGAL, ETHICAL, MORAL LINE WITH THESE WORDS TO THE COURT!
From Rose’s post #110:
” April 1, 2009 Plaintiff Virgie Arthur Response to Defendant Nelda Turner’s Motion to Quash Deposition Notice and Motion for Protective Order; in this Response Arthur says in part “it is imperative that Turner’s deposition occur immediately…Besides, if Turner is at death’s door, that is all the more reason that her deposition should be videotaped, so that, in the event of her death before trial of this case, the jury can have benefit of viewing her testimony and be in a better position to assess her lack of credibility”.”
I am so sorry Rose that you have to endure this harassment! I mean WTH? Does him (mcc) and his people sit in the office at night and have a pow-wow and find the most vulnerable spot in all of the defendant’s backgrounds???
I can just hear them now; Well, didn’t a few of Rose’s posters get upset that I mentioned something about her health in the other filings? Yes, lets go ahead and do it again, because I want all their reactions at Rose Speaks to get upset… Who knows maybe they will say something and I can sue them too? Yes, lets just keep hurting these people, yes lets just keep pushing that knife in further, yes lets just turn that knife a few times while we have it stuck in deep!
HEY OTHER SIDE! >> I HOPE YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE TACTICS ALSO!
***Rose, I hope that your lawyer can do something about the blatant malicious intent to harm a defendant through the actions of an Officer of the Court.
TAKE THAT LEGAL LICENSE AWAY!
TAKE THAT LEGAL LICENSE AWAY!
TAKE THAT LEGAL LICENSE AWAY!
In my opinion that is what should be done, enough is enough.
God, his actions are just creepy and sickening! The words; lowlife scum bucket comes to mind. JMO on this absolute purposeful intent to harm other human beings.
Ken….I personally cannot and will not answer that one at this time. I was not privy to things she is saying elsewhere. So I cannot comment.
What I will say is this……………McCabe did not show the Judge any proof or evidence to gain my emails or anything any one of those defendants had, if anything in regard to me. He did not show any solid and valid proof to this Judge to invade my right to privacy. He did not file any motion showing proof. As my right, I applaud Butterfly for that part. McCabe was out of line asking and the Judge was out of line giving. In McCabe fillings it says………………..Signaled. WTH, you cant signal for an event like this. The Judge needs to be removed, and for that I thank Butterfly for standing up and writing this letter.
What she and allllllllllllllllllllllllllll others have failed to mention is the seriousness of STALKING going on with everyone on that list. THE JUDGE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD BY ALL THE LAWYERS INVOLVED. I stand firm on that and always will. We had and have rights that were violated. Not by Rose per se, but the lawyer and the Judge. Not sure where I stand with what she turned in yet. I have not seen anything turned in, if anything at all was.
Am I mad at her for doing what she did? No, she was between a rock and a hard place. But….we should have had the right to stop any motion to that affect before she sent anything out. I personally did not have anything that pertained to me, her, them, or VA in any way. So she could not have sent one email of mine in. For him to just read sweet nothings IS NOT HIS RIGHT. It is my right only.
THE WHOLE CASE NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT AND SHOULD HAVE SO LONG AGO. THIS IS ALL RIDICULOUS TO HAVE GONE THIS FAR.
MISCONDUCT
MISCONDUCT
MISCONDUCT
Ken,
#113 IMO I think if there is a DEBATE on differing opinions on something like the questions you are asking…
That should ONLY be done in the forum under a member’s only thread.
Otherwise, you might just be asking for some big differences of opinions.
Not me, I stand by my comments in the #1 post on this thread…
I will repeat part of those comments again:
“To anyone who chooses to read this please REMEMBER Rose cannot comment on specifics of the State Bogus Case… She has shown me and many here who she is and to me her heart is kind and good. I say to anyone reading any documents… if something to not seem right to you personally, then WHY ACCUSE, and denote statements and go off huffing and puffing? Why can’t your confusion come in a civil worded question? This is not TOPIX. I just do not understand why or how these insensitive judgments keep happening. We do not know the whole story. I for one will not make judgment on a few isolated statements from someone who was put through an unnecessary hell for over a year. Someone who had no representation at the time. I actually think it was a blessing that McC EVER made contact in the first place.
SO MUCH HAS BEEN REVEALED THAT HAS ACTUALLY HELPED ALL OF THE DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE. I am sincerely glad all of that happened, otherwise this case possibly would not be going to an Administrative Judge if these actions would not have taken place.”
I stated all of the above with a good heart, I hope that it will not be taken out of context.
I sincerely hope no one answers those questions on a open blog. JMO on it. Thanks for listening.
Lucky [119] it wasn’t said elsewhere, it’s in Butterfly’s letter of support for the judges recusal. She accuses rose of committing criminal acts that could land her in jail. Re-read the letter, it’s in the dl section dated March 30th
QUOTE FROM my other place…
“3188. The best thing I read today was that Wood has contacted the State Bar of Texas.”
“Posted at 4:10PM on Apr 2nd 2009 by Bria**ah”
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I honestly do not know if this statement above is accurate or truthful…
~~ I can only HOPE that it is very true! ~~
Beth [120] Good suggestion
#73 Hi Beth
The only way to make sure I don’t miss a thing is to answer as follows:
(I honestly think that you few do not even believe half of the stuff you write down for people to read.) I believe in every post I make until and if facts prove them wrong. Then I am honest enought to admit I was wrong.
(So, that begs the question of your reasoning to WHY you few continue to accuse this man of having intent to harm the two people he clearly loved.) It has never been clear to me that he cared anything for Anna except for what she could provide for him. People who care about each other do not enable them to death, IMO.
(My heart and soul cannot wish any of you ill will, but I truly hope that someone, someday does exactly the unnecessary harm that you are doing to others. )I am unaware of any harm I’ve done to others. I am but a miniscule ion in the universe. I would like a link to the unnecessary harm I’ve done to others. Only so you people can truly see and feel what it is like to be publicly humiliated and harassed with lies and false accusations.
(I mean honestly, do you people CONDONE what RC wrote in that book of lies?) I believe in what she addresses and the method used to address them.
(DO you people really think that McC’s wording in his legal filings is brilliant? ) ABSOLUTELY(Do not even get me started on that one, it is beyond absurd)
Well, most likely nothing will get through to you few.( I feel in my heart you do not even believe the praise you give to ANS’s bio-mom,
and you few really DO SEE that the only conspiracy to do any harm was done by McC, DC, WV, RC, DO, MS, JH, MH and a few others.)Confusing statement; I certainly don’t see that. I can’t speak for anyone else.
(One last question, when that Texas cabal starts going after LB with a vengeance after they are done trying to tear apart HKS.
Are you all going to jump on that bandwagon too?) Jumped a long time ago.
(So, I take it you agree and believe everything the ‘absent’ Jackie H. stated on TV?) Didn’t see her on TV so I can’t answer
(I take it you believe what O’Q said on TV? As in his sworn depo he said differently when forced to go under oath.)I believe as he believes for the most part.
(The same with VA, DC, ect… Just wait until those sealed depositions are released!)I can’t wait!
(You guys talk about HKS in FL on the stand, BUT NONE OF YOU say anything about VA and her LOL > ‘family friend’ David Leigh from Splash magazine.)What about her/him/them?
(I am sure you get the picture, don’t you?) I’ve always had it.
Wish I had more time to comment. Lots going on, isn’t there?
No worries Ken… Thanks.
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LOL on #124… “(I am sure you get the picture, don’t you?) I’ve always had it.”
Obviously you do not. Every poster, out of the 100′s of posts on this great site of Rose and Kens understand what is going on in this saga.
By your answers, in #124… It is clear you do not know either side of the issues very well.
SO, In Conclusion I will not debate those weak responses.
Do NOT address me again, I have never sought you out by writing directly to you, I would like the same consideration. Thank you.
ps > If you do continue to, I will overlook and not respond. If you still continue then it will be clear to everyone here you are trying to aggravate, therefore that would be against the TOS and Your Comments Will be Removed!
I guarantee you they will! If the moderators cannot remove them form some reason or another, I will sign up to be a mod; just to do it myself!
Have a great day, and I hope to never hear from you again.
Ken…..I will read it again, but I would have no knowledge of any claim she would make to her or about her, that I can think of. She would be the only person to know that. I never talked or wrote to butterfly except very limited things about death threats to me, so I would not know what she is saying. I was not privy to so much. But I will read it again and try to see what you are talking about.
BETH—Knowing all to well what Rose is going through,I am DISCUSTED with McCabe to the point I AM ACTUALY SICK TO MY STOMACH.How can anyone treat a sick person as to torment her,I wish someone had enough guts to print this whole case in the Texas paper,Are you telling me the court would allow Virgie to take another life,and that is what it amounts to.Side effects from stress can do that to a cancer pt,I would like to know what the court is waiting on,but I sure as hell would not let HOT PANTS AND GREEDY GRANDMA GET THERE WAY.
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Beverly,
I completely agree with you.
There truly are laws against verbal torture, public humiliation, and I could go on and on.
The best way to handle it I think would be to have her lawyer write a simple; STOP AND CEASE letter to him personally and also file in the Court case for his ‘purposeful wording’ to cause a person emotional distress. That is what I would do if it was me…
Do not let this all upset you too much Beverly, it is MOSTLY all done for cause and effect… It is propaganda, like the politicians do.
It is like O’Q said, that he logically was not to be believed… or something like that.
Most likely this case will never see the light of day, that is why there have been a flurry of McC motions filed.
A way to twist and spin the details when this case gets tossed.
I get mad at myself for even letting this joke of a human being get under my skin!
I just am very protective of Rose, I do not know why… It is just something I feel is right, like how I feel in speaking out of the injustices done on HKS.
Thank you Ken.
Off to read it then I have to get the things done I have been putting off this afternoon! ;)
Have a nice afternoon / evening everyone.
Beth [118] I had a hard time digesting that filing as well. WTF does this man think he is. I agree McCabe needs to be disbarred, period. I to hope the little tidbit in your post #122 is true, that man is off his rocker.
As for the poster who seems to have it out for you [jealousy for sure] you handle them a lot better than I would and this is why I have the utmost respect for you.
#120, I agree if there is to be a debate concerning Butterfly’s letter it should be taken to the member’s only forum.
Honestly, I will have to re-read it to answer you properly. I was very happy that she stepped up and wrote a letter to support the judge getting booted. I will wonder aloud if she wrote that or was advised or helped if it says those things against Rose? Has she been here since the stuff happened with Rose and McCabe? And keep in mind, at first glance, I THOUGHT the same thing. Perhaps…maybe she doesn’t have the confidence or the insight (from not being here lately) to look at the long haul or the big picture?
Wulfson-simple question. Do you think VA was a good mother to Anna Nicole? If you do, then I guess you can believe the rest of the bullshit you’re saying.
Wulfson, we know your opinion on the entire Smith story. There is nothing that will change your mind at all. I remember when you first raved about Perper and when he didn’t list the cause of death as you though he should, then he “was on the take”. I beg to differ, you do not see the entire picture.
Pepper, all virgie supporters believe that she has done no wrong. I am surprised with all their calling and letter writing that they have not written to the Pope to have the woman cannonized. Oh I forgot, she has to be dead for a number of years before she can be considered for sainthood.
#134 Pepper…. I almost spit my coffee out on that one…… and I really needed the laugh too!
Pepper [134] sending a HIGH FIVE your way ;-)
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