Bonnie Stern’s Bankruptcy, Halts Virgie Arthur in State Court!
Posted by Rose in All Things Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith, Art Harris, Bonnie Stern, Bryan Cave LLP, CBS-ET, Celebrity Trials, Charles "Chip" Babcock, Chip Babcock, Dannielynn, Entertainment Tonight, High Proflie Trials, Howard K Stern, Howard and Anna, John Patton, Larry Birkhead, Lin Wood, Luke Lantta, Lyndal Harrington, Nancy Hamilton, Neil McCabe, Rose Turner, Teresa Stephens, Virgie ArthurLast night the world watched in awe as Dannielynn Birkhead once again made a television appearance on Larry King Live, once looking at the camera and smiling just like her mom, Anna Nicole Smith.
In other news late this afternoon the court “passed”, cancelled, all Motions pending for February 6 at 9 AM, these included two Motions to compel to image the hard drives of Teresa Stephens and Howard K. Stern.
Bonnie Stern’s Bankruptcy has “stayed”, halted, all proceedings in the Harris County Court on Virgie Arthur vs. Howard K. Stern, TMZ.com, Harvey Levin, Art Harris, Bonnie Stern, Teresa Stephens, Lyndal Harrington and Rose Turner of Rose Speaks.com. This staying of all proceedings also makes moot the Court’s Order for Art Harris, Lyndal Harrington and Bonnie Stern to turn over their computer hard drives to be imaged by this Friday, February 6.
Ms. Stern’s debtor’s conference is to be on February 23 at 3:30 PM in Los Angeles California federal bankruptcy Court. The last date to dispute any claim is April 24, so the “stay” on the state Court Proceedings will probably be only for a few weeks until the plaintiff can file with the bankruptcy court to have the stay lifted on all other defendants.
There were also Motions pending before the court to for an oral hearing on behalf of Art Harris to clarify the January 30 Motion to add designated third parties of CBS, Art Harris and Larry Birkhead, those Motions have also been stayed as it appears has any service to add Larry Birkhead to the case.
Before the state Court had stayed all Proceedings, Teresa Stephens had filed to have heard her previous request to subpoena yahoo.com for her past email records and Lyndal Harrington had filed a theft report showing that her computer had been stolen and could not be imaged.
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She was just precious to watch. How proud he must be. The sweet energy of a two year makes me tired, lol.
The Texas case just seems to be falling apart. Maybe they should dismiss that case and start over. What a mess it has become. First suing for one reason, then saying NO we changed our minds now were suing for this story, NO it was really these people and not these, now we want to add some more. blah blah blah Maybe this will give the Judge time to read it all and just say dismiss this mess. Wasting dollars and going in circles.
oh my god! I just got a quick preview of tomorrow nights special. Even after all this time Howard still looks so heart broken. I guess that shouldnt suprise me. …So often I have been frustrated because I can’t find the right words or actions to try to take even a little bit of his pain away but I think I know thats because other than DL, their is only one person that can take his pain away. As usual Howard, I give you all my best thoughts and prayers. ((Howard))
Lucky- I still have no idea why this stupid thing hasnt been thrown out. I Cant Sue Your Boyfriend Because I’m Pist Off At What YOU Said About Me!!!!! DUH!
After seeing the clip of “3 Larry’s and a Little Lady” I had to laugh Dannielynn is at a precious age, the terrible twos, but is it terrible? or is it just curious and full of energy! LOL
TZ what special are you referring to? I’m so out of the loop.
Lucky it sur does seem like they change directions all the time and just go for what they think they can win.i usually do not wish some one mental harm but after what I heard Howard has gone thru with VA and some of the people from the dark side I wish the same thing would happen to them and someone would stalk them and make them fearful as many of our people have been by the dark sides stalking.I would wish the same happened to VA that happened to Howard after all she started this whole mess with trying to make money of of her grandsons death.
Wasn’t Dannielynn just beautiful and she sure does look a lot like Anna. Thank you for putting up the video Rose,Ken,Moderators..
I don’t know if this is a good thing or not,i mean the case being on hold,maybe Rose or Beth can give us an answer.To me it seems to be a good thing but than I am not involved and do not have this hanging over my head.I am sure Bonnie and her family are doing what they have to do.Bless them all
The interview was nice to watch and makes you realize how much time has gone on in their lives.
Thankyou Rose.
I agree that interview was good to see, Dannilyn is so adorable, I am so sorry to hear about Bonnie’s Bankruptcy and Lyndal being robbed, I know how that feels, back in the early 90’s I lived in a apartment and we were robbed while we were at work and my child was in school, they just kicked in the front door, they took everything they could, TVs, cable boxes etc. and the cable company even wanted $100.00 each for the two cable boxes even with a police report, they even took all my shoes, the feeling of being violated was overwhelming, I got a call from a neighbor and I left work early I never had a feeling like that in my life. Thank God we did have renters Insurance but still after something like that it took away my sense on security in my own home, the only funny thing I can say about that experience is that morning I was so happy because that night we were going to see Guns & Roses and Skid Row at the Forum and my tickets were in my jewelry box and they took my jewelry box and they left the tickets on my dresser, maybe that kind of music was not to their liking, and we went after much debate, I had to were the shoes I was wearing that day, I just needed to get my mind off what just happened. My heart so goes out to you all that are effected by all this nonsense, I keep you all in my prayers and just know this too shall pass..
Kate #5, I am not sure if this is what TZ is referring too, but on the E channel on Wednesday they are having a special about Anna.
You know,I have always loved the Judge ,I feel he is a kind man,with a heart,While he was going through everyone and taking his time,he found out every persons true motive for wanting Anna buried,Howard with love for Anna and Daniel and Virgie,just to get her own way.If any one noticed he said he was happy Howard and Larry are working together,NEVER mentioned Virgie,Larry looked so happy and was glad to again meet the judge,Dispite all Virgie has done to everyone,Dannielynn is a active beautiful child.Does anyone one think God works in mysterous ways,we cannot see it now,there is a reason for everything.Whats Virgie problem,if she cannot hurt Howard,by getting him convicted of something,try Bonnie If,David Leigh of Splash will testify that Virgie wanted the family feud kept going,and Donna Hogan had so much to say in her book,so what if Bonnie or the bloggers mentioned the stepbrother.Virgie was willing for family secrets to come out than,just when she lost every round,in the bahamas,in flordia,and not getting custody of Dannielynn,was she (defamed) not before.
Morning ,Thanks so MUCH Rose I appreciate your youtube Thanks so much!
Good news !! goods News !!!!
She look like her mother .She will be Something .Dannielynn is sure a happy baby!!
Good morning everyone, after watching Dannielynn on LKL and thinking more about this entire situation my feelings have once again changed. It is amazing to me when Vergie and her group of bloggers seem to make some sort persuaded argument they manage to undue it in a matter of days.
Let me start with last week when reading their comments and some appeared to be coming from the right place. I continue to read and there it is again the “get Rose” campaign….the amount of comments I saved regarding Rose and what they said about her is reason for anyone with a sense of right and wrong to say what you are doing is wrong. However, held my tongue for a few more days letting them try to get a hold of the situation from within their group.
Monday, go read more innuendoes and out of context remarks. Said something about it to Red and the women behind the proxy (knowing who that women is by her heart).
Tuesday they were still at it and felt the need for accountability…show it for what it is. Per usual all of them made me the bad guy for saying something about it being wrong. Not one considered my feelings or how it made my heart feel, not one of them cared. They do not care if their bloggers’ lie, mislead or slander any of us because in their minds it’s okay; they consider it within the boundaries of moral ethics.
The reason I am saying all of this is for one reason. I was beginning to think VA should be able to see her grand daughter; it seems like the right thing to do. But after remembering the way her group operates and the kind of hearts they display I am now back to believing it is in the best interest of Dannielynn to protect her from evil, meaning them. As a parent it is our job and if VA is anything like her bloggers’ then I clearly see the need for Larry to protect his precious little girl from such negative, look for the bad in everyone, people. I am going back to my position of keeping her away because VA has displayed no remorse for her behavior and via her bloggers’ displays the behavior many of us feel the need to protect the child from.
I do believe when the courts look at this and after she is evaluated they will come to the conclusions of protecting DL. If she is granted some sort of visitation it will be monitored and evaluated especially when the courts view the comments from her bloggers’.
Also, I did think McCabe was doing great with this State suit (only because Wood wasn’t paying attention or appeared not to know how to fight conspiracy) but after the latest development and CBS attorneys on board now believe our rights to privacy will be protected and this is a new inning, have a lot more faith in winning.
My last paragraph is on this rumor we conspired to hurt QV and why my feelings about her are as strong as they are.
She gave all our names to the bloggers’ and we all know what happened with that.
She was on her site editing and manipulating my comments and telling everyone I was crazy.
She had bloggers’ on her site and allowed them to attack me and tell me to commit suicide, kill me…it went on for days.
But really the reason she hates me so much is because I told her what she was doing to Bonnie and Rose was immoral. Her day in and day out attacks on them had no bearing on her “change of heart “or her perception of “doing the right thing”.
Then there was the article internet crazies where we were accused as being crazy, unstable, our post annoying after months of making comments on their sites all of the sudden it was off with their heads they don’t agree with what we are doing.
The conspiracy has and still is to this day, “Get Rose and Bonnie”. Now we have Bonnie filing for bankruptcy and Rose’s reputation to the point it will never be fully repaired. There is your conspiracy Mr. McCabe and you now have the evidence to prove it, question is what are you going to do about it?
Dannielynn is the splitting image of Anna, but you can see a tad bit of Larry in her too.
Lucky [1] I agree 100% this case is defiantly falling apart but I would not want them to start over, hell no just throw the damn thing out!
#1 Lucky, very well put and very true.
Yes Dannielynn is adorable and yes she looks just like her MAMA! What a baby doll she had turned out to be. I was so glad to see that Larry B. is doing such a great job raising her.
#2 TZ, that was very sweet of you to say, bless you.
The past three years have been a living hell for Howard and my heart goes out to him too.
Rose, so glad Bonnie’s bankruptcy brought everything to a halt, that’s one good thing that came out of this horrible mess. Plus no sanctions, no cost for images. And the fact that McCabe now knows the truth about what really happened.
With the economy in the state it is and the millions of people losing jobs, homes and everything they own. Why would O’Quinn and McCabe continue this absorb case. Why didn’t O’Quinn just give Virgie the millions it has cost him to try these cases? I can’t even imagine how much money this has cost the courts and taxpayers of Texas. After reading the contract that the lawyers signed with Craig D. Ball for imaging, him making $500.00 an hour in consulting fees and a $10,000.00 non-refundable engagement fee plus all expenses paid. This is crazy to go to this much expenses at this time and then force others to pay if they can’t comply.
#15 CORRECTION Absurd instead of absorb case. Sorry, have to put brain in gear before pressing the keys.
Daisy [13] Very well put and yes it goes to show just how far these people will go in order to destroy those who do not support Virgie Arthur. I agree with the last sentence in the last paragraph, you are 110% correct.
Sun, IMO because they really don’t care about other people or their situation and they didn’t give her the money because they don’t care about her either. They use her and she lets them. If she further ruins her relationship (or whatever it is) with Larry and her grand daughter…doesn’t seem to matter to her, appears to make no attempt to mend the problem.
Man, that group has an effect of a person and it’s not a good one. Once again p*ssed me off!
JMA, I am very upset today in case you can’t tell. I tried so hard to reason with their sense of doing the right thing, the problem is their concept of right and wrong. And IMO VA is part of it, she is friends with some of them.
Sunflower [15] we all know McCabe must know the truth but will he do anything to change it? The man cannot be that stupid. He has to be able to see where the true conspiracy is/was as far as the bloggers being added, QV and Havana. With everything that has been handed over so far on behalf of the bloggers, seriously he cannot see that. He also should be able to see the reason those two came forward and was willing to cooperate. This makes one think that he knows all this but does not care due to he wants to get something/anything out of this suit for his client regardless of what is true and what is not. If this is the case then I, hope the hell the evidence turned over by the Defendants [TMZ, CBS, Art, Howard] Attorneys will show the Judge that the bloggers did absolutely nothing wrong and should have never been included in the first place.
$500 an hour that’s crazy! I know what profession I’m directing my kids. LOL
#13 & 18 Daisy,
I agree with you about changing your mind if Virgie aliens herself with these types of people it would be best that Dannielynn not be around them. I can’t imagine someone like them teaching Dannielynn to hate as they do.
Daisy, it’s impossible to reason with people of their mind set. They thrive off of hate and destruction of others. They get great pleasure doing evil to the people they condemn. Some of them are welling to sell their soul to get back at others. People of this nature have no heart or conscience and are best left to themselves.
Thanks Sun, and I agree and the good Lord says to stay away.
But He also says to try to help one another. I did my best, they have taken my good will and turned it into something sinister in which my heart now tells me to stop trying.
Yes, Daisy I can tell and I have been reading their asinine comments to you over there. I could tell in the past days that what you are enduring from these people has a great effect on you. I read yesterday where one asked you if your husband was aware of your name being on the list and my first thought was, they asked that of you because most likely theirs is not aware of what the hell they are doing. We here do not keep what we are doing from people who know us but by their actions it is apparent they do.
You know my husband knows what I am doing whenever I sit in front of my computer and he supports any decision I make. Though he is not into the whole computer and blogging thing, he still supports that I am. Last night he sat and listened to me, filling him in on Rose’s latest article and listened to everything I had to say about it. He did know who Anna Nicole was but no one else involved but Harvey Levin because he watches TMZ. I was telling him about the e-mail you got from Missy’s husband and the post over at Topix supposedly [I am doubting that] from Kerry & Einy’s husbands and his response was disgust and agreed with me that apparently their spouses are clueless as to their true rolls. I also filled him in on just how far those people have gone to with their obsession of certain bloggers and as he said let them try with me. I told him how I agreed with what TZ said in the other thread “let them say what they say behind their computers to my face” and his response was yeah because they definitely have no clue as to what they would be getting themselves into and would regret every moment of it.
Do not let these morons get the better of you. You know who you really are as a person and from what I have seen that is someone who is truly caring and good. Do not let them change that about you. Stand your ground and keep fighting for what you believe in as far as this saga is concerned, THE TRUTH because the truth always wins.
I agree with you, Virgie Arthur is a big part of this and yes has befriended some of these people and most likely is egging them on. IMO she is a manipulative person.
#20 JMA, you are so right, but I don’t think they care about Virgie at all. What I think is they are trying to get back whatever O’Quinn paid to Howard and as usual only the attorneys will make out in this case. Just like in the breast implant case.
#23 Daisy,
You did try your best and for that you will be rewarded. But just remember to brush the dust off your feet and move one. Don’t let the turkeys get you down. LOL
OMG Sunflower you are so right Virgie is no concern of theirs. Their main and only concern is getting back all the money they have shelled out for her. If there is any chance [snowballs chance in hell], they were to win this suit on behalf of Virgie Arthur she will not see a penny of it.
Daisy when I think back to what they did to me [my dog] on TMZ & Topix was so minor compared to what they have done to you, Rose, Lyndal, Butterfly, Bonnie etc. but they hit me at a weak moment and at first I was very upset. My being upset then turned to anger and some part of me still is very angry as to how low some people will go in order to make themselves feel superior. I stand true to my word when I say if they ever have the balls to confront me face to face and repeat what they said over in those places they would not enjoy the feel of my fist in their face. To anyone from the other side that maybe reading here, that is not a threat, IT IS A PROMISE.
PS,
Moderators, if you feel the last part of my comment is inappropriate feel free to delete it.
It appears they are going to put Rose under sworn testimony via a deposition by Art Harris…
Now won’t he get all the email’s Rose gave to McCabe?
Wonder what else he is going to ask for.
Daisy don’t let the dark side get to you.From everything I have read in your post you are a good woman,which is more than I can say about most from the dark side.After what VA is putting both Larry and Dannielynn throughI think we all know what her true reason are and it is not in Dannielynn’s best interest IMO why would Larry even think about letting her have visitation.Besides IMO she does not want to visit she wants at the very least partial custody for whatever reason she thinks she has. Good about Art getting the emails it will only help him and CBS.I think some of the people from the dark side only say things to get people going and caus trouble and blog wars etc. JMHO
I have to find Exhibit A to see what Art is asking for….this is good now the courts will see everything not just what is hand picked by a certain firm
thanks hmm…oh yeah that’s another good point CBS and what are they going to ask for? This is getting very interesting but we all know what happen and my prayer is the courts will find out. Who knows maybe even restitution for those who lost so much.
You know JMA I remember the nasty post about your dog and many others.I had to get out after people started calling me a murder lover etcThose people were and are nuts and I told them so a few timesThat is why I was so Glad to find this site.
JMA I am really sorry about your dog to this day…IMO that crossed a line. The pain of losing a beloved pet is sad and they took advantage of your kind heart.
hmm [30] you are right they do say things just for reaction and the more reaction they get the more superior it makes them feel.
Daisy [34] thank you. It will be two years soon and you know I still miss him so much. I think the one thing that really got to me was that they would not let it go, you know like, it was their only weapon to use against me when my post got to them or something. By the time they took it over to Topix they were changing it to so many different things, one was I killed him because I did not want to have to take him out to go to the bathroom. Anyway their actions just show how demented they all are.
JMA, anyone of us who have had dealings with them realize what they do. I can’t even believe to give them a chance to show their good. My opinion now is when they were being nice it was a trick…like what the devil does.
I understand what it feels like to lose a pet, mine was lost just before yours and I felt really bad when they were doing it to you. You try to reason with them, show them how awful it is but they don’t get it, seem to see nothing but VA. They talk so much about, “doing the right thing” it’s all a lie, if they cared about doing the right thing they would just do it. Speaking the way they do to others, using their emotions…anyone who believes in doing the right thing wouldn’t do it, simple as that. No matter what they think about us or our beliefs does not justify hurting anyone.
God Lord, now we have the bankruptcy PI…or should I say cops or maybe the mrs. do right but really the dolittle crowd.
It looks like Art Harris’s Attorneys are asking for a lot from Rose even asking for any threats towards her to be handed over to them. Are they thinking she may have been threatened and that is the reason she filed her Motion for Leave? All these court filings get so confusing. Will Rose handing over e-mails to Art Harris’s Attorneys help her or him?
Yeah Daisy they are now tearing apart Bonnie’s Bankruptcy and analyzing it as if they were the FEDS or something. You have to admit it is amusing watching them make fools of themselves, which is why I love to just sit back and read. I can almost picture the little hamster wheels moving in their heads
Well, after reading Art’s filings it does appear that Rose did not have Art’s blessing for her motion as she stated. His lawyer is also suspecting collusion and “fraud of the court” between Rose and McCabe.
Guys, you really need to start asking questions and just not accept blindly everything you’re told. At least that’s my advice as unwelcomed as I know it is. I’ve tried and gotten gang pummeled for it.
This is all I’m going to say.
Ladis – Here is a recent taped interview with Howard. I’m guessing this is an excerp from E’s latest program on Anna. Anna Nicole – Tragedy in Paradise is scheduled for tonight (Wednesday) at 10:00 est.
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b82259_mourning_anna_nicole_i_still_have.html
Thanks for the link Sammy1
yeah Ann, you have it all figured out…you are just so bright.
PS glad that’s all you’re saying
JMA, this is great news for Art. CBS is kicking ass. Let Ann run her mouth all she wants….doesn’t have a clue.
Thank you so much Sammy.Probably should not say this but I am surprised VA did not try to take Annas dogs just to be mean.I know she probably couldn’t get them but I could see the dark side trying.
Ann Every one should question things they don’t understand.One thing I will say is my nephew has a civil wrongful death suit going that involves 1 defendant and the other two are part of the suit.Their attorneys look out for what they think is the best deal for their client and sometimes make the other party look bad when they put things before the court.Sometimes things come out that seem to make my nephew look bad and sometimes it makes his girlfriend look bad. I don’t think without what was talked about between the parties involved we can’t say they did not ok what was done.They may have realized Rose did what she had to do and that gave them what they needed to go from there.If you understand what I am trying to say.I do a loot of reading online since I lost my job so I do not just take anyones word for what is going on I read the downloads and make up my mind from that and a little common senseplus I kind of look at why something may have been done they way it was.
I mean think about what this means, what they’re asking for and then think about how they praise Ann…2 + 2 anyone.
and it appears there is now an avenue to enter all the crap that has been done to Rose including the time they went to her house and took pictures. The description…all of it, everything they have done to her.
This is serious folks and finally someone is taking the bloggers threats serious. I find it so gratifying the way the Lord is taking care of this.
# 40 Ann, Art’s lawyers know what they are doing, and I do believe that Rose had Art’s blessing, just like she said. I’m glad they want to know why she was bullied into giving into to McCabe because she had no lawyer.I also hope they bust it wide open and add more people’s hard drives into the case and then they will find where the real conspiracy is.I just don’t get why you don’t understand that there is only so much Rose can say!!!!
Sammy, thanks for the link….looks like the ‘darkside’ have gone there to fill it with garbage…..did you read the comments???? I wondered why they all left at once, now I know.
All Rose wanted was relief from all of the terror of the past year and a half…look at the way these prayers are being answered…CBS who would have ever imagined. Not in my wildest dreams.
flowerz, I know he did
Daisy, I don’t know who’s praising me. You’re more informed than I am.
Flowerz, I do believe Rose panicked when Ogden withdrew. I do believe that it was a very bad decision on Rose’s part to go to McCabe. IMO he is someone who can’t be trusted AT ALL. He will use her any way he can. I hope that if he was threatening her in some way i.e. closing her site and other things she will say that in her deposition. Since he is fighting against her being deposed, to me it indicates he’s got things to hide.
Yes Daisy,
#43 and #45, I second that and am glad too!
I see the 2 + 2 also!
I am hoping they just give it up! I mean good grief, WTH?
Do they truly think that they will change our mind because ‘they’ stated their opinion?
This is NOT attacking, as like what they continue to do to Rose, every chance they get!
*I honestly think these personal attacks should be stopped!
***KEN*** Aren’t these personal attacks and asking all the members here to question what we have decided for ourselves from reading the actual documents AGAINST the TOS?
MAN! I sure hope that is enough to be rid of this continuing crap.
JMO on it, also > HOW DARE ANYONE TELL US TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN ACCUSE US OF BEING BLINDLY LED BY ANOTHER.
Yes, I DO HOPE THAT IS ALL THEY ARE GOING TO SAY!
OH, Holy Crap!
Here we go again!
Daisy [46] was this an answer for my question in post #38? Are you saying it could possibly benefit both Rose and Art?
Beth [51] kind of POT/KETTLE wouldn’t you say ;-)
Everyone has an opinion, sometimes it is good … other times bad. Unless you have actual see what Rose has on paper, or you attended the meeting, all you have left is that OPINION. What gives any of us the right to ask her or question her after what she went through.
Rose knows what she is doing, and when the time comes she will explain it in more detail. Until then patience is a virtue.
Ann, I agree McCabe is not one to be trusted, he can play a mean game of cards, but does he know how and when to fold them. Wait and see.
Sammy thanks for the tape, it was worth watching.
I know Rose did what she had to do. She followed the Courts instructions. No choice. No lawyer to run interference for her.
Art has a new lawyer now and they are going to look at what was done to Rose and they want to see what she has handed over and why.
McCabe probably wants Rose’s stuff to stay with him and this way they all get a look at it. I think Rose would be happy with that as it evens things out.
The deposition at a Hotel well Rose make sure they buy you lunch and not a drive thru McDonalds.
I realise that they have hit pay dirt with all your emails and research and not many people keep everything like you do. Makes me wonder though why they have all been so slow in realising what you have.
A little help before and they could have had it I am sure just for the asking of it politely. Nothing like saying “please and thankyou”
The threats are all over the place and I am sure you have many more you haven’t shared with us.
This is just a lot of hard work I know but it is the business side of things and this should have been done a lot earlier if the lawyers had been really listening.
Maybe they are taking notice because McCabe is. You were only ever in this because of your Texas address anyway.
You are articulate, smart and wise……skitchem Rose
Ann whats to ask? We knew Rose had to do something with no lawyer and complying with the court is the only way she had. She is not responsible for other people and their actions and words, only her own. If people are added to this case through information in Roses papers it still has to be verified elsewhere.
She has information not that she is a witness to events. Of course McCabe was a hard arse and got what he wanted from Rose and just what was she able to do about it???
without a few hundred thousand dollars in her hand bag not much.
Poor Bonnie and her Bankrupcy is what McCabe wanted, drown people in motions, lawyer time court time. money needed to fight, well Bonnie run out of it.
What did he expect? He must be used to working around Bankruptcy, that is what happens people don’t have as deep a pockets as the Oquinn law firm.
I hope the laws protect Bonnie and that is what she needs protection and not to be bled dry with legal costs. Don’t understand the surprise this caused it should have been expected.
As I see it there is no conspiracy going on between Rose and McCabe regardless what others may want to think. Rose is handling her legal side of this stupid ass suit to the best of her ability considering she has NO council. Yes, Art does now have Attorneys handling his legal part and they are going to do what is in the best interest of their client. This does not prove that Rose did not have Art’s blessing before she filed her Motion.
Yes JMA!
OHHH! I get so mad at myself when I go and get emotional… I am serious though, These are clear attacks on ‘R’…
Her character, and choices… then accusing all of us of being stupid (blind)!
My email is not working now, if it was I’d be emailing a mod to see what they think, as I think those comments should be removed and
put an END to this! Otherwise it will never stop and it will make others think they have a right to criticize our site owner…
Calling a moderator or Ken… ;)
Heath, the truth is that Rose did not have to file that motion. From all appearances that was McCabe’s handiwork. I do believe he’s using her in ways she was not fully aware of. She should stay as far away from him as possible, for her own sake and the sake of the other defendants.
JMO
SAMMY1 —-Thank you for the link,How I wish I could tell Howard the pain will ease.I would tell Howard,in the early morning hours,when you are all alone,sit and think of Anna,you will feel her close to you.when you go back to the bahamas,walk along the ocean,she will know you are there,it is wonderful how when you try,you can feel your loved one near you.MY OPINION—–I think art harris plans to help Rose,I AM SURE,
and isn’t that funny Ann, McCabe handiwork as you put it, he may have stepped in it BIG time.
OMG this is just to good to be true.
You couldn’t dream this stuff up.
JMA, yes IMO this is great for both Rose and Art as she has said all along she will not lie and I believe her. What started out as complying with court order and the suffering, toll it took on her well being may just end up to be the greatest thing that could happen for all of us!
BETH——–I think most of the women on this site are as strong willed as I am,and no amount of underhanded remarks can change my opinion of Rose Ken or anyone on this site.In the past year,I have seen a lot of envy and jealousy,toward Roses site and Rose,and toward anyone with compassion toward Howard Bonnie,and the whole Stern family,and I will say,just as Howard picked himself up,when he felt the lowest,stood tall,and tackled the slime,Rose will do the same.
Daisy, enough with your personal remarks. Time will tell if I’m right or not.
IMO this site is behaving no differently than the other side. Either everyone marches lock step or he/she is a traitor. I’m doing neither. I want the truth, and if the truth damages someone’s image in some posters’ minds so be it. Sometimes the truth does disappoint.
Ann, my personal remarks…you are kidding right? That is what we do here make a bunch of remarks. I was only reacting to your remarks.
Beverly you got that right.
Beth, I agree with you but Rose has always said to ask question. I for one resent the fact that the other sides thinks we are follower or don’t ask question. I have always asked question, and read the legal papers. It is like they are saying we don’t have minds of our own or think for ourselves. It gets tiring. They might just as well accuse us of having no initiative, it is insulting I agree.
Ann, I was talking about McCabe not you, why do you call it personal remarks. I find that perplexing.
and isn’t that funny they took flew out of topix like a bat out of hell….
Ann
Rose will NOT lie. When she is deposed she will tell exactly what the truth is of the questions she is asked. It will all come out. It does say a lot that he is fighting having her deposed doesn’t it? My question is how on earth can he fight for her not to be deposed when he isn’t her lawyer? Seems like things may not be so great in Denmark.
Also, who are you or anyone else to question what any of these defendants do in this crap. That’s what it is crap. Rose has no lawyer. She was complying with the judges orders and McCabe is I believe taking total advantage of the situation. Rose is in quicksand up to her neck and doing the best she can. I do hope that the truth of it all comes out. I think its pretty obvious who was responsible for that filing but everyone put yourself in Roses position. If you had someone dangling letting you out of a lawsuit that has taken up a year of your life and taken a huge personal toll on your emotions as well as health and this person was saying “ok do this and you’ll be gone”…. what would you do? No one should judge anyone without walking in their shoes first.
Absolutely CBS should be involved in this suit. They paid Art, send the crew, filmed it and aired it. I never understood how they weren’t a part to begin with. Art is happy because Chip Babcock is representing him now and it should have been that way from the start. How can a company as big as CBS put out their correspondants and do this kind of stuff and then not back them up in situations like this. If you ask me its not enough a little to late.
Here we go again!! everytime Ann is coming ….Noone is better than an other.Sure Mccabe is a traitor but you know what??? let’s see what will happen and stop your accusation or your prediction, as we are not big fan of!!
Sammy thanks for the link.Sure Howard describe well what a shock is.The first year you are not able to be in the world.The second your lost and want died.You try to wake up yourself, and start realise.The tirth year is you discover yourself but steel need help.It is not something I would like happend to my ennemy.It is just to hard to handle!!!Now I saw a bigening of smile on Howard’s face. Hang on Howard We stand by you.!!!
Thank you Beverly,
I do understand different opinions & ‘underhanded remarks’… but all of these comments today:
>“Well, after reading Art’s filings it does appear that Rose did not have Art’s blessing for her motion as she stated.
>His lawyer is also suspecting collusion and “fraud of the court” between Rose and McCabe.
>I do believe Rose panicked when Ogden withdrew.
>I do believe that it was a very bad decision on Rose’s part to go to McCabe.
>I hope that if he was threatening her in some way i.e. closing her site and other things she will say that in her deposition.
>Heath, the truth is that Rose did not have to file that motion.
>From all appearances that was McCabe’s handiwork.
>I do believe he’s using her in ways she was not fully aware of.
>I’m doing neither. I want the truth, and if the truth damages someone’s image in some posters’ minds so be it. Sometimes the truth does disappoint.”
ARre MORE then UNDERHANDED!
THEY ARE STATED TO CAUSE TROUBLE!
Ann [63] now I rarely address your comments but this last one I take offense too. We are not forced to as you put it “march the lock step” we all have our own opinions and yes, many times we disagree with each other. The one thing we all agree on and will stand by is Rose does not lie to us. She tells us what she is able and that there are things she must hold back until the appropriate time, and we get that. Rose is not fortunate enough to have the high power Attorneys that the Plaintiff and other Defendants have. She is doing her best to handle the legal mess that she has been thrown in. You seem to be the only one who has a problem with the way Rose is handling this situation.
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Beth is only repeating what Ann said, for the record
just want to be certain everyone understands that
Oh and my comment #66 really should have realized they need a more quiet to do all their investigating, the time it takes to learn accounting and will single handed confront the bankruptcy court and show all the proof they have.
Beth I’m glad you posted that information and the one comment Ann made, “His lawyer is also suspecting collusion and “fraud of the court” between Rose and McCabe”……….CBS is saying McCabe represented “fraud of the court” because Rose was only complying with the court. Makes me wonder if Ann read the court transcripts when the judge said because I said so when Ogden questioned her.
Daisy,
It is so HARD for me to contain myself!
You are right! I wasn’t very clear! I actually hit submit before I reviewed… Thanks, Daisy.
Oh, from #40 (hours ago) “This is all I’m going to say.”
THIS IS ANOTHER REASON I KNOW THESE ‘DIGS’ ARE TO CAUSE TROUBLE!
Daisy [72] last paragraph excellent point.
Ann [59]
“Heath, the truth is that Rose did not have to file that motion.” Exactly how do you know this as a “truth”? Are you privy to what goes on in the lawsuit? Are you a law expert?
Since you seem to think of yourself as a legal expert and know exactly what someone should and should not do when they are in a middle of a lawsuit w/o a lawyer, how much do you charge an hour? Where did you get your degree from? or do you have some one on the inside of this that is sharing information with you?
Also, if you are gonna state something you say as the “truth”, then you cannot try to pass it off as an opinion.
So McC said ‘do this and you’ll be gone’? (#67) Or is that just an opinion. I get so confused. Did Rose make a deal or not. I thought Rose said there was no deal. But if McC offered her a way out, then that sounds like a deal. And everyone keeps stating that Rose was just complying with the courts order, but I did not see Rose’s name on that agreed order to have the computers looked at by the expert. I thought that is what the court ordered???? It looks to me, from the documents that I have read, that Rose is working outside of the courts and going directly to the O’Q law firm. How could that be good? What kind of protection does Rose have? McCabes word?
trina, this is where some confusion seems to be, you must read the court transcripts to understand. The judge gave the defendant a chance to do as she said or she would make them pay for forensic and they would have to do it anyway.
She had no attorney to continue the fight so she did as the judge ordered and yes the judge ordered it.
I don’t know about any of you but I do know what it is like to be in civil litigation and the stress it takes on. This suit has been going for over a year and I expect it will go on for quite some time unless CBS gets it tossed. Rose certainly doesn’t have that kind of power.
Anyway she signed a motion for leave. Does she want out, my guess is yes and many of us want her out, we just want it to be done with because of our devotion towards her and Ken. We have been with them for over a year and have endure the stress right along with them.
Ann what if Rose didn’t have to maybe she wanted to. I don’t know any one of us that could have endured what her and Ken have been though
in these past years.
And I am not suggesting I am privy to what goes on in the lawsuit. What I am saying is how dare anyone accuse this family of any thing less then honorable after all they have done in the name of justice.
I suppose after what QV and Havana did it is understandable not to trust but haven’t we shown you enough devotion towards them to understand they are not like that?
I thought McC agreed to pay for the computer expert (kind of). I did read the transcripts. And then I read the agreed order that lays out what the expert is going to do. Rose was not apart of that agreed order. It appears that Rose cooperated with the plaintiff outside of the courts order. But that is just my take. Whatever, it really is all good to me. Everything will one day come to light. VA will not recover a sum of money from this law suit, imho. My prediction is that VA and the O’Q law firm will look like bigger fools than they already are, when all is said and done.
quote: “But if McC offered her a way …” & “Did Rose make a deal or not.”
WTH? What kind of power do you think McC has? LOL Are you too chicken to email and ask her? Instead of trying to make her look bad?
I think that these are NOT dirrering opinions… but purposely going against this sites TOS, I hope that you get banned for this crap!
You (2) or (1) are doing this for the attention… IMO > AGAIN!
*AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMEONE ELSES FEELINGS!
I think that person has suffered enough unnecessary heartache for no good reason except for spite of others!
What in the hell did she ever do to you two?
If the answer is NOTHING then, we should not read anymore ‘digs’ tonight should we?
For God’s sakes! How do you live with yourselves?
Still want to know which one is Wilma…
dirrering s/b differing
I will not be on anymore tonight, this makes me sick!
McCabe is a dirty player,and dirty players never change there way of doing things.
trina, there was talk he would pay awhile back but the judge said he presented enough evidence and said the defendants had to turn the emails over or they would have to pay.
Read the last court transcripts…it’s all in there.
It is truly not an attack on Rose. I just read comments and they bring up questions. Sometimes it is hard to tell if someone is just giving an opinion, or stating facts. Rose stated in a comment that there was no deal. But then other comments make it sound like there was a deal. That is all. I’m not a member so maybe some (that are members) know more than me. I have invested internet time into following these law suits. I read here most everyday. And sometimes I have questions. That is all. I do not like what I have seen so far from the O’Q law firm. It troubles me to see Rose involved with McC outside of the courts order. That is just my opinion. I do believe that Rose is doing what she feels (based on her knowledge) is her best option. This is all just a bunch of made up bs, imo. Not from Rose, but from the plaintiff”s side, imho. Rose is just working the courts, I guess. That’s the way to play the game. I hate it, but that is just what it seems to have come down to.
I’ve certainly heard that “walk lock step” comment several times at another place. It has always annoyed the hell out of me because I know how hard headed I am and if you don’t believe me, ask my family…..but I got it from them, they are the same way. Lock step….LOL!!!!
I was browsing at TMZ and Swims post caught my eye.
I know I probably shouldn’t do this but It is a good post and I can get in trouble later if I must
436. 425. Only Swims, can you explain why the stay on the Texas case. Is the bankruptcy just delaying the court to make another court date after the hearing in California is over? Do you think this will continue because of the lost computer? Thank you if you can answer.
I was wondering, it looks like a good thing that Harris is being represented by CBS now don’t you think? Better than not being represented at all.
Posted at 10:00PM on Feb 3rd 2009 by Please Explain
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Bankruptcy halts all civil proceedings. In short, no Bonnie, no HKS – why bother. The TX State Court still has no excuse not to proceed with the Special Appearances of HKS and AH, though. All McCabe will have left shortly are the three bloggers, about whom he’s not even complained of a cause of action and TMZ (publishers of a true story). Just boot the ‘bloggers’ case now and face reality. Outside of Harris County, no other Court would countenance a lawsuit from someone in TX about make believe damage in The Bahamas due to an American Entertainment Blog’s National article. TX has nothing to do with it.
Would McCabe have the nerve to present his case to a Bankruptcy Court and ask for a lifting of the automatic stay on his civil case? No. Bonnie is not even a party to the lawsuit yet. McCabe and the TX State Court have failed to move along and deal with big issues such as the Hearings for Special Appearances; so no basis for lifting the automatic stay. Moreover, no Federal Court is going to take seriously his double/triple hearsay bogus lawsuit. Suing for bad press? No such thing.
Using AH and his capacity as a ‘Special Correspondent’ to take another swing at the very deep pockets of CBS is one sure way to get your head handed to you one more time by CBS. Reporting, in good taste or bad, of the facts and details of a story is at the heart of what the Fourth Estate does. Anyone who discusses the ‘news’ or gossips about it, in good or bad taste, is what Americans do. If you don’t want to risk bad press, then stay out of paid interview situations; your fault, no one else’s, if you don’t.
Posted at 4:29PM on Feb 4th 2009 by Only swim in the Ocean
No, what I read is that the judge is having VA pay if the defendants follow the (current)order to have an expert. The judge made a threat, that if the defendants did not do it now (within the agreed order) then the court would end up making them do it anyway, and in that case the defendants would pay. As it stands now, VA pays. VA can possibly ask to be reinbursed, if she wins. Big fat double wide chance of that, imho.
How do you work the courts when that is what they told her to do??? If you have no money, that is all you can do, what the judge ordered. None of us trust McCabe, and I’m sure(my opinion) after all this time, Rose doesn’t,either, but what do you do? I know I’m glad it got the Big Boys in on the case and that will help Rose in the end, I think. Art was harrassed just like Rose was, and I’m sure he got threats, also…….hope they follow the trail.
Trina ,I think your opinion is really welcome here,you are not attaking but asking.The big difference it make .It is a lot of confusion for lots of us. Rose did not make a deal.She ad no choice and she did the best she was able to do and it is big. Now you should take a chance to imail her an post your question. Since I know Rose she was all the time honnest.I have a big faith on her, sure her own site is not a place to diffam her.Yes we are a gang of women who fallow the case and support Rose.Yes we are and yes we will continue.
the judge did more then make a threat…she followed though.
Ann ever think that this was filed just so art could have CBS and their attorney represent him,as far as I could see they kind of left him in the wind just like Rose was.In the long hall this was a good thing and I do not see how McShame can stop Rose from being deposed or giving that information to the other side on her own.But than I don’t know the laws down there so maybe even if Art and Lin and CBC already had the emails Rose had they may have to depose her to bring it out in court. I guess I look at the bright side of things and hope for the best.I have heard and seen to much from the dark side to believe anyone from their is a nice person.Rose you go girl Ken you take care of her and make her rest.One question Will we ever see the last chapter of the book of lies or can’t you put that up now?I really hope that all the emails etc have already been shared.,if not some of you that still have them can share. Just an Idea in case Rose can’t.Bev I agree McShame is a very dirty player and I think his,O’Quinns and VA thing was to do just what they did to all the people involved in this case except fora few from the dark side and that is why I am sure he doe not want anyone else to see those emails as they are not confidencial
I just can’t seem to wrap my head around why anyone would think Rose should not do what a judge said….do some people think it was okay for Rose to be left holding the bag with no representation? IMO Wood should have done what CBS is doing now.
What do they think you should get in trouble or lose your assets…it makes no sense.
The judges threat was, iirc, that if the defendants did not turn their computers over to the expert, and just gave what they thought McC wanted, then another hearing would take place because the Plaintiff would complain that what was given was not enough. The judge said in the end your computers will be searched, do it now VA pays, do it later you pay. Well it seems that Rose was allowed (so far) to just give the Plaintiff what she had without a forensics search. So Rose did not listen to the judges threat, imho. And McC is not complaining (so far). So really, Rose did not go by what the judge said to do, imho.
The only thing I know is that Art’s lawyer wants the answers to the same questions I’ve asked. If you look back to the beginning when the motion was posted, the first question I asked is whose idea was this motion, and the second was who wrote it. By looking at Rose’s subpoena, those are the things Babcock wants to find out about too. By Rose’s own admission McCabe knew about the motion before it was filed because she said McCabe asked her to hold off on filing it until the federal suit was dismissed. That in itself makes it appear there was a coordination involved between Rose and McCabe. The other thing is info about it was leaked to “Virgie fans” before it was filed.
The main advantage to the motion would be allowing McCabe to pull deep pockets, CBS, into the suit and snag Larry into it as a defendant for sure after the deadline since it’s unclear whether the judge added him or not. It looks very much as if McCabe is just using Rose to get to them. He knows Rose has no money herself.
IMO for Rose to say she had Art’s blessing in filing this motion presuming that CBS would then sign on to represent him, while his attorneys are fighting it, is throwing Art under the bus.
think what you want Trina, I’m tired and am going to bed.
Good golly! Sure is hard to keep up. Maybe it’s because I’ve never read the latest filings I feel I’m so out of the loop. At this point in time, I’m of the same mindset that this suit is full of crap and as the motions are filed and dealt with, the truth shall come out and the truth shall set you free! I get a kick out of the conspiracy crap. Just to read the word makes me laugh. On every crime board and gossip site, people express their idea of what transpired and what people that are involved think. How comical. That thier opinion is the only one that has value and that good old ‘lock step’ mentality is shared by all. How boring of a human race we would be if we all thought alike. This mess that has become a lawsuit with everyday internet users is such a sham. No wonder our judicial system is overloaded and prone to ridicule. I’m looking forward to the day when this is a distant memory for those that have been slandered and it is not VA in my opinion.
There are answers and subjects,for the parties involved,and your not one of them.You are a blogger,with a opinion,and that is all.when you have to know every detail between the parties that are involved that is OBSESSED.I do not know every detail,nor should I,SOME OF THIS IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
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Sorry but Rose Turner and Art Harris are not on equal footing. Any more than Rose and Levin or Rose and Stern. When Ogden quit, Rose and Art were only in the same boat in that they were out an attorney. Imo, Harris had (has) more options than Rose. But yes, if we are talking conspiracy theories here, maybe Art had Rose file the third party thing so that Art could get CBS to back him. Or maybe McC had Rose file the third party thing so that McC could consolidate his cases (federal and state) and still not loose CBS. Or maybe Rose thought this up on her own.
Beveely #97, That was so well said!!!!!
Sorry, Beverly!
I still cannot get in chat….what am I doing wrong??????
Flowerz,
Please try it again, put in your nic and pw you have already registered right,
I want you to come in
Oh good gawd now what? I had a great day out and about and come back to this. What the hell changed now? No, dont answer, Im going to bed. I have had enough. I will try chat for a few and then Im out.
WHAT THE HECK NOW…………………….
I might be better off trying again tomorrow. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I seem to be lost here…..where can I read Art’s filings that is being talked about? Thaks
*thanks
As I was watching E–Entertainment last night,for sure Anna,s daughter is Anna,s daughter,what a beautiful child,and YES looks like mommie.Anna herself would be so happy to see her child,with the family,s that she is so part of,Dannielynn will never want for LOVE.you could not miss the hurt and heartache Howard is going through.And I HOPE a lasting friendship between Howard,s family and Larry,s family.Something very beautiful,is God given,and it looks like Dannielynn will receive all.
WOW, Lucky I agree with you, go away for a 1/2 day and miss all kind of things. LOL
#94 Ann, there may be some behind the scenes things that you are not aware of with Art. Ease up on Rose until you know the whole story. You don’t have to agree with everything Rose says or does, but things seem to be turning out good for all the defendants after her filing. Just days ago it looked like McCabe had the advantage in this case. Now everything has changed again. Art now has great attorneys from CBS helping him. Rose is out of the hot seat as the ring leader of a conspiracy. Bonnie’s bankruptcy halted the court case and the imaging for now. Howard still has Lin Wood who is ready to fight McCabe. Harvey Levin has his attorneys who have pulled him out of the fire many times already.
Also I read the transcript from the hearing and I don’t get that when Lin Wood said Wacko and Obsessed he was talking about Rose.
This is only my opinion——-Lin Wood implying that statement to all bloggers,every site open.There are certain bounds,you do not cross without interfering,and causing a whole lot of trouble.Howard has to deal with what I CALL unscrupulous,lawyer,s who do not mind damaging a man life and career,for money,There are lawyers,and then again there are lawyers,Virgie Arthur sure found the right lawyers for her,(Birds of a feather flock together)
#108 Beverly, I hear what you are saying, but I think Lin Wood was referring to one blogger site in particular and that was not Rose. He used the word “Wacko” referring to emails he got at his law firm from people who had the killer of Jon Bonnet. Believe me you are right Lin Wood is all about the money too. I posted two links a while back on how Lin Wood did business. But I give him credit for staying with Richard Jewell and he is staying with Howard so far. Howard being an attorney himself surely knows that Lin Wood will get most of the money gotten in these cases. That’s the way it always works.
Also wanted to add that people aren’t reading all the court paper, if so they would find out that Art Harris is the one who got Lin Wood to represent Howard K. Stern.
heath [86] thanks for posting that. I do not know about anyone else but it answered my question as to whether McCabe had the power to have the automatic stay lifted in Bonnie’s Bankruptcy in order to proceed with the civil suit, it looks to me that he does not.
Sunflower [109] that is what I got out of Lin Wood’s comment too, JonBenet case.
#111 JMA, I read the transcript three times and I came to that conclusion too. Thanks for spelling JonBenet for me, I wasn’t sure. You have to watch carefully everyday or you may miss something, LOL. As this case has been twisted and turned in so many different directions is hard to keep up.
Morning,Hope this day will be a good one!!
I told you couple days ago that the jonbenet case was reopend.Is some of you have a new link about it?????
Beverly,love your comment #106.
Hang on Howard ,Hang on Rose everything will be good!!!!
Sunflower [112] I agree, yes you have to keep up with it daily due to so many changes. This suit gets crazier with each filing I seriously do not see how it will get through to being heard in court. Jurisdiction has not even been determined yet and with all the nonsense that has been filed so far, I do not see how a Judge is even going to be able to make a decision and that is IF she reads everything.
So there will be no misunderstanding of what I’m saying when referring to Lin Wood remarks. What I think Lin is talking about was a website in the form of a forum that was opened after QV closed down her now reopened site. After QV closed down the Anna Nicole site for a few months she opened another site; the website’s name used words that referred to Investigators and Lawyers. As Lin said the site owner was not a PI nor was she a lawyer but a private citizen. That site closed down and the old site was reopened which is being used today ANAHKS. I could be wrong but his words sure fit the bill of that site and many here can remember being on the other site before is closed. Rose’s site was turning legal papers into plain English, she did not advertise being an investigator.
LIN WOOD’S COMMENTS ARE: People that somehow get caught up and obsessed with other people’s business and they either want to help somebody, like maybe they wanted to help Howard or Larry Birkhead, or they wanted to help Virgie Arthur, and they become private investigators. I mean, they’ve even utilized one with respect to their investigation of this case, an Internet investigator who was essentially a private person.
#114 JMA I really have to laugh because McCabe did nothing on this State case for a year and the judge brought that up. Now he really wants to get this thing moving fast and now the whole thing is halted, LOL. Wonder if Craig Ball ever got anything imaged. I’m still not sure if Rose has to go to that depo on Monday or not. I don’t think the CBS attorneys are going to like dealing with Judge Lindsay, as they are doing everything by the book. Judge Lindsay has admitted herself she doesn’t even read the paperwork. Should be pretty interesting. LOL
Saves,
I went to google and typed this in: ‘jonbenet ramsey case reopened’
*There are many links… here is one from a few days ago.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/police-reopen-jonbenet-case-20090204-7×28.html
“Police reopen JonBenet case”
February 4, 2009
“JonBenet Ramsey: Murdered at six. Photo: AP
THE Boulder Police Department is reinvestigating the 1996 murder of JonBenet Ramsey and will create a taskforce to help hunt for the girl’s killer, the police chief, Mark Beckner, has announced.”
Sunflower, I don’t think you are understanding the possible repercussions to not only McCabe but also to Rose if CBS can prove that there was collusion between McCabe and Rose to bring this motion to add responsible third parties. I don’t know what McCabe told Rose, but it seems incredible to me that Rose thought that CBS wouldn’t come after her for trying to add them to the suit so that McCabe can try to pick their pockets. Larry could also come after her for the same thing.
From what I understand this motion can only be brought by a defendant. If the plaintiff’s attorney influenced a defendant to file the motion or put her up to doing it for his advantage while she represented herself as a pro se defendant, I believe that is considered a deception and a “fraud upon the court”. CBS wants to depose Rose and have all her communications/documents between her and the O’Quinn law firm to determine whether this is a “collusive pleading, resulting in a fraud of the court”.
Right now it’s not looking good for either of them. Rose has very publicly stated that she was cooperating with Virgie’s lawyers weeks prior to the motion being filed. She even stated that McCabe told her when to file it. On top of that knowledge of the motion was leaked to “Virgie fans” even down to knowing what day it would be filed.
Of course McCabe is going to try to deny having anything to do with it. IMO if Rose can somehow prove that McCabe coerced her or somehow intimidated her into do doing it, things would go better for her. I think that’s why CBS wants anything about any threats made to her. If it turns out Rose willingly colluded with McCabe in filing this motion, then I don’t know.
JMO
Ann [117]
Ann, Bingo. You just explained it exactly as it’s going on. And as we all know, rose will not purger herself for anybody.
Sun, [#107]
Please (unless you want responses)… There were a Bunch of us in chat last night…
I thought we were going to NOT respond to these hurtful insinuations of Rose by _____.
If we do not respond, then they truly look like a fool to continue to come on here where their comments are solely to cause conflict!
THEIR ACCUSATIONS ARE NOT WELCOMED!
ps > there for a while I even thought it might be H****a…
( NOT sure who it is… Just KNOW it is not a person who is a friend of this site… I believe this ‘egging’ of false accusations
[and false ‘put-downs’ of McC] are to force someone into saying something that will not help the case in the state of TX. )
‘R’ has too much class to ban this w____o! I think we as members should let her and her ‘OTHER NAMES’ just post their NONSENSE to themselves until it TRULY shows that they just keep making the same accusations here to cause trouble! Hopefully they will go away!
As it is VERY CLEAR they are NOT just asking questions…
*They could give a crap about Art! These comments are to HURT Rose!
***MEMBERS*** Please IGNORE this trouble maker and her alias’s names!!!!
Please DO NOT respond to their ‘baiting’!
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Trina
If I state something as fact I will say so. Otherwise, it’s meant to get others talking and thinking in different directions, to step out of the box and explore other possibilities.
FACT: THE COURT ORDERED THAT THE DEFENDANTS COMPLY OR HAVE THEIR HARD DRIVES IMAGED. ROSE HAS COMPLIED WITH THE COURT ORDER TO TURN OVER EMAILS AND APPARENTLY MCCABE FEELS THE OTHERS HAVEN’T DONE SO. THAT IS WHY THERE IS AN ORDER TO IMAGE THEIR HARD DRIVES AND NOT ONE FOR ROSE. PLEASE NOTE THAT ART AND HKS BOTH HAVE PENDING MOTIONS FIGHTING THAT ORDER.
THERE WAS NO DEAL. ROSE DID WHAT THE JUDGE ORDERED HER TO DO. SHE CONTACTED MCCABE TO SAY “OK IM COMPLYING. I HAVE NO LAWYER. IM TIRED OF THIS CRAP AND I JUST WANT IT OVER. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY TO DEFAME VA. I WILL NOT LIE AND I WILL NOT COMMIT PERJURY. HERE YA GO HAVE A LOOK.”
The only “deal” that was made was that with her full cooperation on section 1 and 3 of the motion to produce, McCabe would leave RoseSpeaks members alone. He wouldn’t continue to go after innocent bloggers with the threat of their personal information laying in his lap.
Please look the Motion to turn documents over. It list on their ANY AND EVERYTHING to do with RoseSpeaks.com. THAT MEANS YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TRINA ALONG WITH ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS EVER POSTED OR JOINED ROSESPEAKS. They want name, ips, email address, any pm, personal pms between members, any email sent to any of the admins or mods of the site by any of the members.
For instants in part 1 it says EXACTLY as follows:
Produce copies of ALL comunications INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED to email and other electronic communications for the period of Sept. 2006 to the present between YOU (ROSE) and WWW.ROSESPEAKS.COM. That means all of us. Everytime she has been notifiyed of a member joining, password change, pending comment or anything to do with members and Rosespeaks.com.
Now to address some other issues. Ladies I know there are some hurt feelings and some hard feelings here right now but please remember that this is what RoseSpeaks is about. We are allowed to have different opinions and we are allowed to ask questions. You are even allowed to hate Rose. As long as the TOS are followed there will be no banning.
Maybe so Roxanne,
But if this crap continues… I will think again about ‘checking ‘ in…
AS, IMO it does go against social and moral issues….
even if it is not defined exactly in the terms of service!
This as an Obvious ploy to cause trouble!
I hope that the site owners and ALL moderators will CHANGE their minds, as I have had enough!
I think we should have a vote! ;)
Maybe so Roxanne,
But if this crap continues… I will think again about ‘checking ‘ in…
AS, IMO it does go against social and moral issues….
even if it is not defined exactly in the terms of service!
This as an Obvious ploy to cause trouble!
I hope that the site owners and ALL moderators will CHANGE their minds, as I have had enough!
I think we should have a vote! ;)
*I BELIEVE THIS IS MORE THAN JUST ‘HATING ROSE’ IT IS TRYING TO DESTROY HER REPUTATION AND….
(while ‘trying’ to sugar-coat the comments like they are concerns or questions)
I WILL NOT BE PART OF THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Ken your one little sentence says it all. WE all DO know Rose would not commit Perjury for anyone, this is why I do not look at the OPINIONS coming from those who are trying to imply otherwise as FACT.
#117 Ann,
I understand what you are saying but first things first, McCabe was filing all kinds of motions and ordering everyone to get their hard drives to the master for imaging or else. The judge let all this happen with her blessing and the jurisdiction hearing has not been held yet. McCabe doesn’t have jurisdiction over any of it yet according to the law. Rose made it very clear she did what the court ordered her to do. In reality Rose didn’t have to turn over anything UNTIL jurisdiction was decided. So McCabe was putting the cart before the horse and the judge so ordered it. And yes you are right about, if he coerced her it’s bad news for Rose and McCabe. But Rose can claim she was acting in good faith in accordance with the court order.
McCabe maybe sorry he did this now because with the CBS attorneys he has met his match and they know what they are doing. They are doing it by the book. Did you see where CBS pointed out how McCabe screwed up on what he was asking for, documents or hard drives.?
Roxanne [120] thank you for laying it all out, now IMO if they still cannot understand it from the way you explained it, then I feel their only intention is to try to convince others that Rose is/did something wrong.
Sunflower [124] Rose just has to show Art Harris’s Attorneys she was complying with the court and whatever is handed over they can view too. The way I see it Art’s Attorneys are not after Rose. They may feel McCabe has something to do with Rose filing her Motion but not in the way, some here are trying to insinuate. IMO they are out to get McCabe for possible wrongdoing and may be thinking he threatened a defendant in order to get this suit going full speed ahead.
#119 Beth,
thank you but I wasn’t in chat last night so I don’t know what was said. My password doesn’t work so I can’t get in. But that’s OK I don’t have time at night.
Ladies trust that we aren’t stupid. Please, you’ve done that before and it’s all I’m asking from you now.
Ann 117
BINGO.
The pressures put on the defendants in this case are unreal and something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
#126 JMA I agree with you and that was what I was saying in #124. Rose has only done what she was asked to by the court in good faith.
OMG I am in the best mood ever….I am really, really, really enjoying this latest development.
Ann you are a pretty smart girl and I always said that about you now trust someone would you. I understand it’s difficult after what QV, Jane and Havana did but try it and enjoy yourself. This went from horrible days to days you should be enjoying.
Sunflower [127] do not feel bad I keep forgetting my password into the main forum so I cannot even attempt to get into chat. Also I spend x amount of time on the Internet during the day so it is only fair I give hubby the rest in the evening you know so he can listening to me jabber on about the discussions here
Sunflower…………it was called LAWYER AND DETECTIVE. I still have the site and all the stuff. I was always uncomfortable there as I was neither and did not want to play it. I said so several times.
To the rest………….sometimes you learn more by listening than telling. Read what is written and ignore the ones you feel are here to make trouble. So far it is a bunch of questions maybe better answered in an email.
Ann……….are you on the list of bloggers that were named? Rose did what she could to protect those members that were hers.
# 125 Convince who??? Us here at rosespeaks??? they better wake up early in the morning, and work hard to try to convince us, Rose did something wrong. lol!!!!
It is not the first time we are confront to the metod they use lol !!!!
After certain time it’s look old soup, really !!!
They should try something new hein?????
Ann, Rose has always told everyone, McCabe included she will not lie. She also states in her filings she does not believe there was a conspiracy.
What is going to be the most exciting part for me is CBS has asked for ALL things pertaining to intimidating her.
And then there is all those emails that show the conspiracy to get Rose…this is getting serious and CBS is kicking azz.
I was gone most of the day yesterday and night. Is there new papers showing that CBS is coming after Rose or that they want to see her things? If so, where may I find them. Thanks.
Maybe CBS should have picked up Rose and the other defendants??? grrrrrrrrr, so confused now. I dont see any new docs to read about it
Beth ,you should put a nice smile on your face and continue the good job, you always did with us.
Who care about couples bloggers.
edited by admin
Luckz it is on VA /Howard section.
see if this helps lucky
JMA says:
February 4, 2009 at 3:27 pm (Edit)
It looks like Art Harris’s Attorneys are asking for a lot from Rose even asking for any threats towards her to be handed over to them…
Daisy why spent your time explaining something we know???
you lost your time and energy.Stay with us nice lady!!
Daisy,I mean 0+0=0 lol!!! keep your nice personality and don[t bother with 0
savesomething, yes that is my impression as to what they are trying to do. They can try as hard as they want but I am an adult and can make up my own mind.
Daisy [133] I saw where Rose said in big bold letters, “there was no conspiracy” you would think everyone else who read it saw those words to.
Save, LOL love you girl
JMA, you got that right, it’s just all soooooooooo funny. You couldn’t make this chit up LOL
JMA #140
I don’t think the conspiracy is relevant right now. The possible conflict of interest and defrauding the court might be though. ;-)
Save, don’t you think that was a great way to get my dig into QV, Jane and Havana? I still can’t believe all the crap they pulled and yes Jane included.
LIzzie
:P :D
#130, JMA yes I know just how that is, LOL
)
#131, Lucky you are such a sweetheart, thank you. I knew you would remember, LOL. Remember all the crap we put up with there, LOL.
ROSE——THANK YOU——I will read them this evening,when no one will bother me.I started one court doc,and I will tell you,I do not have anger ,it is RAGE.Lord if Virgie and McCabe was near me I WOULD SPIT IN THERE FACE,I cannot began to show the amount of CONTEMPT I have,
Heath thanks for the swims post I really enjoy reading his post but won’t go over there again so I really like it when someone gives a link or post what he wrote.So thank you so much.
Ken do I have to rename someone mr bingo man? I sure hope not as the original mr bingo man is truly not trustworthy IMO LOL.You and Ann put up just what I thought was happening.
IMO if some of these attorneys for the defendents had said they would help others it might show the courts that the defendants were helping each other out and therefore help McShames case.I would bet anything that what Bonnie did put McShame back a few feet. Will wait to see what he does now.I still do not see how he can stop CBS from deposing Rose.I think McShame is a little worried now because Rose will tell the truth and show all the emails that are asked for.
If nothing else Ann you bought out what was going on and it was things Rose could not say anything about.AS Ken said Bingo
Daisy………………Unreal. Am I reading that she has recently had more threats? Needs to stop. But I am reading between the lines in what you say. LOL As Rose cannot speak about things, as she should not, I sure hope I am reading this right. If so……………….WOOHOO
Sunflower…………..yes I do. I still have it. Odd times eh girl? LOL
Lizzie [142] I agree you could be right “defrauding the court” sounds better.
148
Lucky
BINGO
FYI
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/05/anna-nicole-smith-doctor-searched/
#148 Lucky, LOL, LOL, LOL CSB is asking about threats we could write volumes on that; you, me, Rose and Daisy. But I think they are talking about McCabe and not QV and gang. It’s good Rose saves all that communications.
Okay WOW, say it aint so Joe!
You could not make this stuff up if you tried, lol. We go from offering personal protection to possibly something else. Looks to me like the other side is coming out swinging, and I do mean swinging. it is about darn time is all I can say. I wonder if this all has anything to do with the cancellation of Friday.
I see sinking ships on the horizon……………..
I think it’s 5:00 somewhere, lol.
#153 Iceland maybe LOL.
yes sinking ships right, LOL
Sunflower [153] I agree I think Art’s Attorneys may be thinking McCabe may have made some sort of threats to Rose in order to get what HE THINKS may help his client.
Lucky [153] Me Too Margaritaville
My bad you all were talking about sinking ships and Iceland and all I could think about was having a Margarita because I saw the 5:00 somewhere. OK back to reality.
Sunflower they are asking about any form of intimidation, all of it. They want any thing that may have effected her state of mind. That group went after her to break her and the evidence is there and CBS wants it.
Daisy #144
The only thing that surprises me is that McCabe hasn’t filed to dismiss the case yet. I just wonder if he has any hair left after reading that subpoena. :-)
JMA
In the south it’s only got to be 12pm. LOL
#155 JMA, strange how money has twisted this case inside out, LOL. Wonder if O’Quinn is on McCabe ass to get back somehow, somewhere, some of the money they have put out to defend VA. Sure wouldn’t want to be in his shoes now. After reading CBS filings and Howard response, McCabe’s got his hands full. And they are pointing out all his stupid mistakes, how sweet it is!
#157 Daisy, we have volumes where we start and who do we download too, LOL.
If you haven’t already given it to her any thing you have that shows the intimidation including the lies about her. Many of us have already sent what we gathered on topix but anything that has to do with only Rose right now.
Rox, lol
Sun, okay got the joke lol…
McCabe is still fighting the depo but I can’t see how he can, he is not her lawyer so we have to hang tight
Daisy, this is still posted at Art’s forum: last paragraph, I’m telling every one of you that unless you have proof of the charges that you are making, you better stop it right now and remove it. Cease and desist. So either you prove the libel that you are placing on this public website about me and my site or get ready for the fight of your lives. And you better remove it too.
QV
The emails proved it all, LOL.
Roxanne [159] here where I am it is less than an hour till 5:00 ;-)
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1520
Here’s the filing Lucky…..scroll to the bottom
Read and enjoy
some are going to read and weep
Sun, did she just accuse us of libel? When did she post that?
#151 Butterfly. Thanks for the link.
Read your comments as well. If they haven’t gotten all the info about prescriptions for Anna by now and the data bases they have records of prescriptions filled etc
Or is this even about Anna? Her meds have been under the microscope for 2 years.Little late to be checking the Doctor out now I think.
The California Medical Board got a warrant to search Dr. Sandeep Kapoor’s Studio City office this morning. Informed law enforcement sources tell us they are looking for prescriptions Kapoor may have written for Howard K. Stern. We’re told Medical Board officials want to know if Stern may have used Kapoor to score drugs for Anna — something Stern has vehemently denied.
The California Department of Justice, Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement, has been conducting an investigation into Kapoor since 2007. He has also been under investigation by the Medical Board for his prescription practices. Thirteen days before Smith gave birth to Dannielynn he wrote a methadone prescription for her under an alias, Michelle Chase. Under California law, it’s illegal to prescribe a controlled substance under a false name.
The raid was conducted by the DEA on behalf of the Medical Board. DEA officials took files and other documents.
Story developing …
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/05/anna-nicole-smith-doctor-searched/
JMA 166
Oh hell, go ahead girl. No one will tell if you sneak one in early.
Sounds like Kapoor is in trouble
Okay then, in Singapore its 5 o’clock……………TOMORROW already, lol. Or is that Australia? Darn, I forgot where I lived for a second.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
All I know is its 5 o’clock and time for a boat ride. I see too many sinking ships and I want a front row seat for this trouble in paradise!
Heck I feel like going to Rose and giving her protection myself. For all her hard word and fighting so hard, when this is over, I think I will donate for all the paperwork, pacer she had to buy, mailings, anything she had to do on her own for keeping this site open. Dont want to be accused of any wrong doing, so I will wait till the fat lady sings and its over! I truly think it will be soon. I have always said when the big come out to play it will get real good and case will go bye bye. Sad it took so long though.
Like QV says….it aint over till its over. Spot on.
How could the methadone be in HKS name and Michelle Chase? Why now? After two years? Something’s up.
Lucky you’re funny!
?? Didn’t they already search Kapoor’s office and computer for that stuff?
#168 Daisy,
that was a while back when people started venting about her and her site. It was when she was trashing Rose and all of us on her site.
February 3, 2009 copy of Lyndal Harrington’s Public Police Report about computer being stolen, copy provided to explain why she would not be turning over a hard drive to be imaged. Yes we did verify this is an open public document: Public Release Information
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1528
February 5, 2008 Notice from state court in Harris County of receipt of bankruptcy and the options left to litigants, especially for the Plaintiff. This should not be a major issue to go forward with the other defendants since Bonnie Stern’s bankruptcy will be discharged either by the end of April or first part of May.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1529
Daisy………thanks for the link. I had found it. I went and read all of them. Good reading for sure. WOW WOW and WOW. So many things we dont know about yet.
Rose………..things in life happen for a reason. We just sometimes do not know what they are at first. I know that losing your lawyer was rough. At the time it was horrible and very unclear why it was happening. But, seems it happened for a reason, and a good reason. If what I am thinking is true, then it will work out best for you this way and the case. Hang in there and good luck on Monday! Make sure someone stays at your house at all times while your gone. I would not trust a soul, no one. Darn, I wished Naz lived in your area. How cool would that be.
I will be in chat later tonight. I promise to behave this time, LOL. What fun you ladies are. A real hoot! Are we getting any close to our huge meeting partaaaaaaaaaaaay yet? I am ready for the Bahamas, anyone else yet? I think we might be close……………
Sunflower [160] that is what I was saying either here in this thread or another one. If McCabe should win this case [slim chance in hell], Virgie Arthur is not going to see a penny.
#174 Daisy, I agree strange how they are reopening this right when things look the bleakest for team VA.
#178 Rose, thanks for the links it was so good to read that in black and white by Judge Lindsay, WOW. Can’t wait to hear the response on that.
#179 Lucky, you have been planning that trip for a long time now, you are to funny!
#180 JMA, awee poor baby she won’t get anything, LOL. She got all that money selling Daniel’s pictures all the interviews to trashing Howard and Anna, she does deserve anything after what she has done.
UPDATE: Howard K. Stern just released this statement to TMZ: “Dr. Kapoor never prescribed Anna Nicole medication in my name — and that is what the medical board wil find out.”
Daisy [174] that is what I was thinking. Why are they just now after two years checking into Dr Kapoor. As Lizzie said #176, thought his computers and records were already looked at.
#90 Hmmm “Will we ever see the last chapter of the book of lies or can’t you put that up now?”
Yes I promise once I catch my breath and before Howard K. Stern’s filings are due on the 13th in New York.
The first half of chapter 13 is debunked and in the download section that leaves on the 2nd half (and now that I know Cosby had Stern’s stolen cell phone records) that will help me with the last part of chapter 13 and then the wrap up of my thoughts….
Well, somone make pressure on Brown???was it his name???
it is 5 o’clock in Niagara Falls.closer than Iceland.Bring your computer with you!!!!
Than go to bahamas
Rose, after all this shitt will be finish,I Hope you will publish the debunked of Blonde Ambition.Sure it can help Howard’s life and Ambition will be see with other eyes for the readers of Amazon and all the library!!
Sunflower [182] isn’t that such a shame, NOT!
the whole story stinks and maybe I am falling off the deep end which I am sure you will let me know but how am I to believe TMZ of all news outlets has this story and then to further my skepticism how do they know what is in that warrant? Would that info be available to the public this soon? I never heard of knowing what was in a warrant during an investigation. We also know how the firm in Texas likes to use subliminal messages and fear and remembering someone said Rose will be put in jail. It’s a fear tactic they called in a favor IMO.
saves [187] you are too funny.
this is the way tabloid news works, here is the tmz article
The California Medical Board got a warrant to search Dr. Sandeep Kapoor’s Studio City office this morning. Informed law enforcement sources tell us they are looking for prescriptions Kapoor may have written for Howard K. Stern.
the key words are informed sources and may….it means nothing.
Yes saves! [#186]
Maybe TX wants to try and work that in the State case too….
(HKS possibly having his name on a prescription – from the CA Doctor)
*I believe Howard’s statement to TMZ also! I do not know if the doctor went overboard on prescribing ‘any’ medicines to any of his patients…
It looks like after this, TX has NO MORE avenues to ‘get’ anyone!
~I do not believe they (TX team) know the basics of poker! They should have ‘folded’ long ago… IMO
nothing on the AP about it
HI hi,TMZ have a live chatt..don’t know what is the IQ of the persons over there ???? look like a gang of monky .Could not read one strait sentences.
You know,I will spend the night reading court docs,but I want to ask.In all the time that Howard was with Anna,was he allowed to get sick?If there are prescriptions for meds,maybe just maybe Howard got sick once in a while.If Howard got ill,what was he supposed to do,I hope CBS rips McCabe and Virgie to pieces,It is too damm bad Virgie cannot live with herself,She destroyrd her Daughter,NO ONE ELSE.
I am thinking the Medical Board or the AG found NOTHING when they searched Dr E’s records and computers so now they are moving onto Dr Kapoor. Plus, remember it was just last week the doctor in the Chris Benoit case just pleaded guilty so now it kind of stirs up previous case. At least that is my thought on this, you know like it doesn’t make Jerry look to good because nothing has been found all most two years later.
Saves,
Attorney General Jerry Brown is the guys name in California.
Informed sources… ;) Ole Jerry has many more ‘pressing’ problems then this!
*I do not see this going anywhere.
It is the ‘last hand; of the game!
Thank God!
Roxanne in reference to your comment #171, now you know if I did take that early sip it would have been plastered all over the Internet that I had a drinking problem
Money is the game, Power is the name !!! look like some are loosing power!!!!
thank you all for talking me down, needed that
Daisy that’s what friends are for.
Okay folks, lil update.
Rose will most likely not be back tonight to the puter to read the blog. She’s still pretty sick (she had a really really bad night last night) so she’s back grounded on the couch practicing her couch potato routine. Roxanne and myself will try to answer any questions y’all have.
The timing of this raid is interesting. IT’S A CONSPIRACY I TELLS YA
Takes some of the gloss of the show about Anna maybe a CONSPIRACY
I am not sure if there is a CONSPIRACY with the OQuinn law firm and Jerry Browns Office. (Surely not)
To match the CONSPIRACY of Rose and McCabe and the Motion and the timing of lodging it
To match the CONSPIRACY of Rose and Bonnie’s knowing about the Bankruptcy filings ( she should have told MCCabe what was going to happen in someone elses affairs)
To match the CONSPIRACY of the Texas Bloggers to defame Virgie with the truth
How about we name all the CONSPIRACYS in this saga………….this should take us a while
Howard is on ET
Good thanks susiq2.Nice to see him.I have a smell the truth will come out>>>>>
Thank you too, Susieq!
I was watching a ‘Judge’ show on TV today…
It concerned defamation, it was w/ two ladies.
The Judge said, well what she said is true, you didn’t pay the people.
*When it is the truth, it is NOT defamation > the Judge said.
Then she said ‘Truth is a Defense.’ The Judge then Dropped the defamation & made the lady who didn’t pay… pay the other one.
I really had thought the AG was done searching…
Even so, I believe HKS. Even if there was a medicine prescribed for HKS (say antibiotics for an ear infection)
NO One can prove that he gave it to Anna, as they lived in the same house…
You (or anyone) is NOT responsible for what another able bodied adult does. IMO
Ken,
Just read #202.
I hope Rose feels better.
I am out also for the night.
Have a nice evening all.
Hi Rose and Ken
I hope you are feeling better too Rose. Since I don’t know if you opened my email, or if your depo is still on for tomorrow, I want you to know you are in my thoughts and prayers more often than you could imagine. Rose, I’m confident you will do very well in your depo. Really thought it was a brilliant move and will help all the defendants as well as Wood. I am hoping now a time of healing for y’all, will begin- – along with a tad of respect by all parties, and their attorneys. ( Why am I thinking you already have?)
I do think I see a light in the tunnel…and Rose I do see you as the potential train… Whoo! Whoo!
You are welcome saves & Beth.
Beth [206] IMO it would not matter what kind of medication they found in Howard’s name if it was not any of them that were found in Anna’s system they would have nothing to hold against Howard or Dr. Kapoor.
Here’s another media source for the Kapoor story
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/state-medical-r.html
Unbelievable after all this time!
Thanks trina
and how about that no mention of Howard…Harvey is such a dope his cup actually matched his shirt tonight on TMZ.
this is what the times states, “State medical board spokeswoman Candis Coen would not say what state agents were searching for or which location they visited. “I can only confirm a warrant was served,” Coen said.”
all we know is Kapoor became known via Anna but this search could have something to do with another case. I know how much some people want to hang Howard and don’t care about the truth, just get Howard but if I were them, won’t get my hopes up on this case JMO.
I would think that the medical board only investigates if a complaint has been filed. Evidently Kapoor was cleared back in 2007. Nothing ever came of it, anyways. So why now? What new information would warrant a search warrant? More harrassment, imho. Nothing more than harrasmment and keeping the pot stirred. Unbelievable!
Heath, that is a Bingo! I wonder how many letters Brown was bombarded with lately? They always do something like this in their time of need. Most people are not interested in the case anymore, just us die hards, so it won’t amount to anything.
Sorry that Rose is feeling bad, what a shame to put someone through something like this when they are already sick,,,,,,,what a shame!
Beth [118]
I have hesitated to respond to your post that is obviously about me, but I think I will. To say the least I find it disturbing. I’ve never have attacked any poster here in stating my opinions other to give my observations about certain social dynamics that seem to be in play. There are people here who know me as a poster since Feb. 2007. They know that I’m honest and don’t pull any punches about my opinions whether the majority agrees with them or not. It is absolutely untrue that I’m anyone but myself nor do I post here with multiple nics.
The fact is that I’ve done battle with “Virgie fans” some of whom absolutely hate my guts. Some in the past have even banded together when I was posting on other sites and did their best to turn those administrators’ lives into living hell hoping to get me banned because they didn’t like what I was saying and for no other reason. Their attempts wound up backfiring on them though not because of anything I did, but because they started threatening the administrator for not doing what they wanted in banning me, and they got booted themselves.
So I think you can understand how disturbing it is to me to see the same sentiment voiced here as soon as I say things that some here don’t like. I take Rose and Ken at their word that we are free to post here and openly state our opinions, ask our questions, and draw our own conclusions, right or wrong, without fear of retribution from administrators and moderators, and without having to endure personal attacks from other posters.
Daisy [212] we here are not concerned in the least but you can bet a few other sites are having cyber orgasms over this.
Wait were any of the scripts found at the Hard Rock that had Howard’s name on them prescribed by Kapoor. I am thinking no due to it would have been revealed then.
JMA, according to the Rita Bible Toting Biddies, they were all in Howard’s name.
Ken (come see this for Rose), Roxy, Daisy, Febbie, Heath and ladies. Come to chat fast. I have a must see.
flowerz was it ever said what doctors name was on the prescribed medications that were found at the Hard Rock. It has been so long I cannot remember if it was ever said. In addition, does it not say in the newest news that Dr Kapoor had already been investigated in 2007 right after Anna’s death? If this investigation is, still in regards to Anna’s med’s what is it they think they will find this time that they did not find two years ago.
OK guys I got to go. Heck only reason I was on this long is because I had to do some work online, now I am done and tired. Talk to everyone tomorrow.
Ann [215]
No matter how much we butt heads on here with the posts going back and forth, the opinions you have posted are your opinions and yer entitled to them. Whether I agree or not with them….and actually I do believe there was a post or two I did say to rose that you did have a point…nor may I like all of them, so far they have not crossed that line where you need to be moderated and/or banned.
I did use a new email address to get in chat, but nothing is working!!!!!
Ken, Ann is alright I have known her quite some time my opinion is she really cares about Howard and has seen so many people do so many evil things to him she is finding it hard to trust.
I hope she goes and thinks about what you two talked about today and read where you said bingo. It really help explain a lot.
Ann, I am sorry if I was abrupt the other day. I hope you understand my frustrations about this case and will admit being protective of Rose.
Please don’t stop posting you know how much I love to read your thoughts and have told you many times. What you said today was so helpful so other people can come here and read and you gave them a good explanation.
Well then…
I will rephrase, opinion or not > I truly believe that many of the accusations/assumptions directed to our site owner >>> Could have been stated without so much resentment or actual direct finger pointing.
I will not apologize, as I feel in my gut it was worded that way on purpose.
BUT! I will not comment any further unless this direct finger pointing and accusing continues.
I am only coming to this conclusion for Rose’s sake, as she has enough on her plate…
With OUT unnecessary conflict from posters that surely seemed to me to make her all at fault.
So I am sure you understand HOW disturbing it was to me and others that (at least I) formed the conclusion that those remarks were more than just questions/opinions/conclusions…
My anger came from how it truly seemed to attack just one person…
Yes, you have posted for awhile, AND YET comments like these the last few days were never done in this way > therefore I am still not sure as to ‘who’ this person is.
In conclusion, I will stand by Rose & Ken; though I hope they re-read all of those posts carefully one day and see what I saw.
Oh, and I do know our site owner does not need her members to stand up for her… that is not what this was, I was truly angry at how those new damn opinions were just worded so directly to her! As, for someone who professes to have been on here for awhile had never done before.
I am done with it now, I still think that they were overboard and I do not think I will ever change my mind.
Daisy and Ken, thanks.
LAT Home
Southern California — this just in
Quick Links: Crime. Education. Bottleneck. Prop 8.
State regulators search office of Anna Nicole Smith’s doctor
2:21 PM, February 5, 2009
State agents served a search warrant today on the Studio City doctor who allegedly prescribed methadone to model Anna Nicole Smith, a California Medical Board spokeswoman confirmed.
It is at least the second time since October 2007 that officials for the state medical board searched a location connected to Dr. Sandeep Kapoor, who was reported to have prescribed methadone to Smith for pain management.
State medical board spokeswoman Candis Coen would not say what state agents were searching for or which location they visited. “I can only confirm a warrant was served,” Coen said.
State medical officials opened an investigation on Kapoor in February 2007 after reports that he allegedly prescribed methadone to Smith under the alias Michelle Chase. Kapoor, who is part of an ongoing investigation, has said he cannot discuss details of Smith’s treatment because of patient confidentiality. Smith died Feb. 8, 2007.
A spokeswoman for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration confirmed the agency assisted state agents in executing the warrant.
–Andrew Blankstein
Credit: Los Angeles Times
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That’s interesting Rose, too bad the article for the LA times didn’t mention what patient this warrant pertains to! Maybe they too are cashing in on her name, being so close to her death anniversary. Let the speculation begin!! JMO
By the way hope your feeling better, been thinking of ya’ll.
Seriously, does anyone have any idea what even the point or what they even planned to prove with this raid today when they already did one more than a year ago?? I really wouldnt mind knowing.
Flowerz I really wish I could help with the chat situation, all I did was name and email and waited for approval and waited, and waited LOL then I started to panic and emailed every mod and site owner here, they all probably thought what a pest. LOL But I say the squeaky wheel gets the grease. LOL
By the way emailed is wrong PM’ed is correct it’s all the same to me! JMO
TZ do you do chat?
I totally forgot my password and how to just log in like a zillion years ago.
Susiq Hi glad to see you posting I have wondered where you were or what happened to you..There are so many names of people that leave or only post once in a while like Margie. I miss all their post they all contribute a lot to this board.
Ken thank Rose for answering me.Who is Patty Lampton anyone remember.How did Cosby get stolen goods,the phone records.She should be charged with that also.I suppose she got them from the group in the Carolinas
Hope the depo goes well for Rose and it sounds like Arts attorney from CBS knows just what to ask for Hint hint- If the depo is tomarrow does that mean McShame lost?
I would think anything to do with Anna and the drugs she used was pushed by our own Mr Bingo man the ex FBI agentwhoprobably used his sources to push as hard as he could.I would think by now he should have used up any goodwill he had.
POOR POOR POOR Virgie,I wonder if any one has noticed,every tribute to Anna,(mommie sweetheart) is left out.Virgie if mentioned at all is talked about in a negative tone,I think by now every one knows what she is and it has nothing to do with a so called conspiricy.Virgie and her greed,has made her despised all over the world,it sure has nothing to do with Rose,Art,Howard Lyndal,or Butterfly.Had Virgie,cared at all about Dannielynn,right now she could be enjoying,her grandchild,and that is not losted on the puplic,and the world,Instead Virgie chose the courts,(for money)and to say POOR ME,The Good Lord gave a gift to Virgie,a granddaughter,and Virgie threw it away,for Money and her own self interest,NO amount of taking people to court,and destroying more lifes,will help your reputation,VIRGIE YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.
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233-Hi hmm. Patti L is McCables paralegal. Thanks for thinking of me. I’m sure several people have missed me for one reason or the other. lol For now, let’s just say me and my pc were hit my lightening last April. Lol Didn’t get pc fixed and back on line until Dec. I have been reading here trying to catch up since Jan. while trying to see if I could keep my big mouth shut or in the very least live up to Rose’s classy example, both of which feel impossible to me.
Hi Everybody!
Does anyone know for certain what all is going on today? As I understand it everything looks like a go with VA, Art & Howard. I got ants in my pants…whoops
Beverly [234] I have been catching tidbits of E tribute to Anna online and yes I have noticed there is no mention of Mommie Dearest. The one I saw this morning says “those who were closest to her” also showed Perper’s conclusion to her death “accidental overdose” but nothing about Momma.
You know the Virgie supporters are not too happy about this tribute to Anna not including Virgie and they will say anything in reference to only Howard, Larry and even Dannielynn being the only ones shown as the important people in Anna Nicole’s life. Some of them even went as far as to say the dress/gown Dannielynn was wearing was disgusting. I mean come on how rude can you be, she is a two year old and anyone who has had a two year old around knows how much they like to dress-up.
#237 JMA,
I’m glad to hear that Howard, Larry and Dannielynn are the only ones being recognized by E because they were the only ones there for Anna when she was alive. “Mommie Dearest” was busy trashing her daughter on every network that would give her five minutes of fame.
Well what can you expect from the dark side, now you know they can’t say anything nice. They act like Virgie.
JMA, I shouldn’t say this but Virgie and her gang act like another Texas woman, her name was Madalyn Murray O’hair.
I just read that Rose is not feeling good. Rose hope you feel better I know the stress of all of this is hard on you. Take care!
JMA——When all fails,they have to pick on a poor child,like I said Vergies kind of people.You know,I get tired of them making Anna a drug addict,Anna had medical problems,I will tell you,with the boobs she had,I could not stand up,never mind walk,there has to be pain,ET also is doing a piece on her,and no one mentions Vergie,I also heard the movie does not include Virgie,she has made a reputation for herself,and she is not liked except for a few ,
IMO, Anna was a drug addict. Howard said that she would die without the drugs (paraphrased). Anna’s medical problems of her own making, i.e, the implants, the liprosuction, the body sculpting and decorating. Anna was a beautiful woman without any embellishment.
Sunflower & Beverly I find it so ironic they show support for Mommie Dearest but not her granddaughter. I have read for months the nasty stuff they have written about Dannielynn even went as far as to say her teeth were rotted. They looked pretty healthy to me. Anyhow just goes to show where these people’s morals lie, hopefully there are no two years olds exposed to them in their real lives.
Sun, I do not know who Madalyn Murray O’hair is.
Wulfson 241. What a statement so close to the tragic death of Anna. WOW! Personally, I do not like to see Anna characterized as an addict, like to base may opinions of people on facts, and give them the benefit of the doubt. I also prefer and do refer to my prescription “drugs” as “meds”. I would like to see a link to where Howard ever is quoted as saying Anna was addicted to drugs or the statement you are paraphrasing as I am sorta out of the loop.
On what basis do you form your opinion Anna’s medical problems were her own making? Do you have a list of her medical and psch records? To my knowledge none of us know all the she was taking or for what medical reasons.
Here is an interesting link which may be helpful in the future: http://www.wikihow.com/Form-an-Opinion
243- meant to say What a statement so close to the 2nd Anniversary of the tragic dealth of Anna. WOW
JMA——You can laugh at them,they,are so desperate to say Dannielynn is not being taken care of.As long as (grandma Dearest) is alive,there will be remarks about Dannielynn,s looks and care,Can you even imagine what Larry would have gone through with Partical custody,I shake when I think of Danniekynn going through what Anna went through.Weather Virgie admitts it or not,she shows time and time again her jealousy toward her daughter,You see,small things show someone true feelings.like using press,when you see your daughters grave,like not giving Anna pink flowers,Anna favorite color,like trying to dig up Daniel,in order to get Anna, What Anna wanted,Virgie was trying to do the opposite.just to get at Anna even dead.
Susieq2, glad to see you back, the laughter is back with us now.. Get a chance from your busy schedule, come to chat.
Sometimes we learn so much when we listen.
WULFSON——-Some of Anna, pain was not of her doing,What do you think Anna felt like,when her Son died and she heard her Mother,who had not seen her in 1o years,accuse her and Howard of (m) Danniel,Maybe that would not affect you,but it sure would affect me,There is a lot of kinds of pain,and Virgie jealousy,caused her daughter more pain,and I DO NOT LIVE THE LIFE OF A HOLLYWOOD STAR,so I cannot,know what they go through to keep there looks, also,I was never raped as a child,and do not tell me you can get over that,Watching Virgie sense Anna and Daniel died,you see a heartless greedy coldblooded woman,whose only interest is money and herself.
I believe drug addiction is pretty well explained with cause and effect.
We know what caused her addiction and the effect is what Anna used to cope. Then once the addict alters the mind
here is an article
http://www.brainsource.com/brain_on_drugs.htm
I don’t agree that Anna’s medical conditions were of her own making. I don’t think we know half of her medical condition.
A drug addict does have the power to stop ( that is the only argument you can it is within their power) but their condition is never of their own making as they use it to cope and escape from reality because of something that happen to them.
246- Hi Febbie, Good to be back, I still recall your trying to comfort me when I so tore up about Howard and the Inquest. Thanks again. You can call me anything, but I really prefer plain susieq rather my first name.lol Had to re-register because it kept telling me susieq was already taken. Lol I thought maybe I was banned… Would have understood that too, so I consider myself blessed to be back home, as there is no place like here for me. This site just keeps getting beter and better as does Rose’s articles, cept when she is doing one on herself…(Sorry Rose) Like Rose, I love the legal documents, except, I have to laugh, because there are now too many for me to catch up or keep up with… Thanks for the invite to chat, I heard it was fun and look forward to participating, but don’t know how to do that or when. Would you be good enough to pm me?
Yes, I love to laugh, but don’t encourage me, I am trying to keep my new girdle on.
246-My first real name is not susieq. lol I meant to say I prefer susieq better than my first real name.
#247 Hi Beverly, that is the difference between you and me. I don’t believe any of that speil and you do. I don’t believe Anna for one minute though her mother accused her of (is it against the rules to say the “m” word here for some reason) her son. I don’t even believe she saw the original airing of that show; remember Dr. E wanted to knock her out. I believe Anna believed what she was told by Howard. I do know that Anna DID reach out to her mother after Daniel died, and for some reason the phone was taken away from Anna and hung up by someone. I don’t think Anna cared for Virgie’s unhidden dislike of her daughter’s abuse of drugs…and abuse them she did; how many overdoses? I’m very sure Anna was in a mental hell or agony when she woke up and found Daniel dead in her bed. IMO she should have been allowed to greive, and shout, and curse and scream and work through her pain to a level of acceptance or at least be able to bear the loss. She wasn’t given this choice…”I want to knock her out”
As for physical pain, it astounds me that someone as naturally beautiful as Anna was would feel insecure in her physical beauty until she transformed it into some plastic travesty to the point of never ending pain. Why not remove the source of pain, heal, and find someone who loved her insides as well if not more than her outsides. “Love” based on physical attraction is fleeting, at best. Why didn’t someone love her enough to say “Anna, I love you…not your breasts, take those back breakers out and live!” Why didn’t someone love her enough to say “Anna, I love you, but I won’t stay here and watch you slowly kill yourself by taking pills like they were candy?” Why didn’t someone say to her, “I don’t care what you say, you are burning up and I love you too much to lose you this way. Kick me to the curb, but I’m going to take you somewhere and get you some help?”
Anna, IMO was hooked on drugs, and died because no one cared enough to help her get free of them, but instead, made sure she never ran out.
New article up.
#252 wulfson, Virgie said that about someone taking the phone or terminating the call of TV shows, under oath in Florida during the burial hearing Virgie changed that to “she did not know how to get to the answering machine and turn it off to take the call”. You of course can say the word murder here.
From what I read, Anna did cry, scream, grieve for Daniel from the public accounts and who knows how much she did behind close doors, I really doubt she was kept knocked out for months, remember the tape of Anna telling Ford Shelley what she thought of that whole S. C. bunch and she was at the Hard Rock hotel to see Hogan in Jan. 2007, so it would appear she was not kept uncounscious for that whole time…
Wulfson
You seem to be stating things as fact that Virgie herself has given conflicting storys about. The phone call for instance the first we heard was someone took the phone away from Anna. Then Virgie said she couldn’t get to it and the answering machine picked up and she couldn’t figure out how to turn it off and ANNA HUNG UP BEFORE SHE COULD TURN THE MACHINE OFF. Another story we heard was that she couldn’t talk to Anna because the number had been changed. Those are VERY conflicting storys. What’s up with that whole bunch and their non end story changes? I think you have maybe bought into the hype of the lies and half truths that are out there a little bit to.
Roxanne I was just wondering how it was that “wulfson” knew for certain what Virgie said happen. Unless they were actually there in Virgie’s home the day Anna left the message, they really have no idea.
#252
“I do know that Anna DID reach out to her mother after Daniel died, and for some reason the phone was taken away from Anna and hung up by someone.”
Matter of fact no one is for certain due to Virgie changed how the contact with Anna took place after Daniel’s death. The only one that seems to be accurate is Anna left the message on the answering machine because not only did Virgie use that one at one point but also Howard confirmed it.
wulfson I hope the question #252 you are asking applies to EVERYONE that was ever in Anna’s life, because it should.
Why didn’t someone love her enough to say “Anna, I love you…not your breasts, take those back breakers out and live!” Why didn’t someone love her enough to say “Anna, I love you, but I won’t stay here and watch you slowly kill yourself by taking pills like they were candy?” Why didn’t someone say to her, “I don’t care what you say, you are burning up and I love you too much to lose you this way. Kick me to the curb, but I’m going to take you somewhere and get you some help?”
Rose thanks for setting wulfson straight on what VA actually said under oath not what she said to make herself look good on a talk show.From everything I have read or heard VA did nothing for her daughter till she passed and than it was to try and take over things since Anna could no longer stop her.Anna had said she drove her self to the Betty ford clinic or what ever it was than called to let her mother know where she was. She also stated she would never go to another one.Seems to me VA was afraid Anna might tell family secrets and that is just what happened.
Ann was responsible for her own drugs, she did not need enabler… most don’t. No matter what you do for them, they have to be in agreement with the brain!
Wulfson,
Are you kin to Virgie or live in her home. How do you know for a fact what went on. Did you gro up with Anna and follow every step she took.??
Unless, any of us did , then we don’t know forsure what happen. Speculate all you want, insert certain names where makes you feel good, but it will not change the story. Ann stated on National TV what she thought, and wasn’t ashame of how she acted. Anna was the one that made statements about her mom, and her childhood. Until you can prove that Anna lied on National TV, and someone was sitting behind her forcing her to make such statements, Anna’s word is all that counts.
WOLFSON——–On Roses site pol and Patrik showed a letter,and Anna was on a bed happy when they left to go to the store ,when they came back Anna was crying because she heard what her Mother had said on tv.You should already know how many young girls are going for breast enlargement.as young as15,and some mothers are giving them for there daughter,s graduation.I will ask you ,who do you think killed ELVIS,I think (HIMSELF) He had a ex wife,and a child,the memphis mafia around hin 24/7. yet he died of a drug overdose.I AM SURE HE WAS LOVED.when the doctor told me the man I WAS ENGAGED TO MARRY died of a massaive heart attact,I was put on Valium, for a long time,I find it (SICK) that Virgie can smile and smirk at her grandson inquest,posing for the camera,as she did all the time,even going to a book signing posing ,I QUESS IT DID NOT BOTHER HER.TWO in the family dead,and she posing ,for the camera and smiling.No valium needed just cameras.
Thank you Beverly I could not remember if Pol & Patrick were there or if Anna had called them.
#242 JMA, you are so right, picking on a defenseless child is insane. She is a beautiful child no matter what she wears.
JMA, google her MMO and see what she and her attorneys did.
#252 Wolfson, it’s very obvious that you have not read the court documents or listened to the statement made by Larry Birkhead or Howard K. Stern. 1. Judge Larry Seidlin stated on the FL court transcript that the testimony that Virgie Arthur gave was less than creditable. That doesn’t say much about what Virgie says. 2. Both Larry and Howard stated that they told Anna numerous times they loved her and they wanted to help her get off drugs. 3. Anna’s back breakers were how she made her living. 4. No one told Anna what to do, she made all her own discussions, everyone in her inner circle said that too.
Dannielynn’s Duds To Benefit Charity!
http://larrybirkhead.net/
WOLFSON——–Anna was given the change to shout,and let it out,that is the main reason Virgie was supposed to be taking Howard to court,Just like Virgie taking to national TV,so did her daughter, and answered her,Virgie will live till her dying day,with that tape.knowing as a mother,there is no way to change what Anna had said,And I hate to tell you,Virgie proved to ME,every word of what Anna said is true,I think of how Howard has been,from the day anna and Daniel died,my friend who lost her son,is stll not doing well,I CAN GO ON AND ON,but,to watch(lard butt) Virgie,(MOMMIE) going to party down,making that ugly face over,I quess no one told Virgie,ugly comes from within,and no matter what you do to the outside,ugly comes through to the outside.