Comments on: You Have to Know When to Hold Them, Know When to Fold Them and Know When to Walk Away! http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/ Celebrity and High Profile Lawsuits Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:18:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42499 JMA Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:45:25 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42499 Sunflower [66] OMG yes how vain is that. Wonder if Queen Elizabeth gave her the title :lol: I thought it was hilarious when she was explaining her name/moniker to McCabe. hmm [67] thank you. Sunflower [66] OMG yes how vain is that. Wonder if Queen Elizabeth gave her the title :lol: I thought it was hilarious when she was explaining her name/moniker to McCabe.

hmm [67] thank you.

]]> By: BEVERLY http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42495 BEVERLY Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:37:43 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42495 MY OPINION------McCabe want a ringleader,look toward his own client the mother of all ringleaders Virgie Arthur herself,Her comments,her actions her constant lying,OQ,McCabe Rita and the rest of the sub human group,who could care less about Anna Nicole and her son,I start shaking at the thought of what Anna went through with Virgie.(what does it profit a man if you gain the whole world,and lose your soul.)As I have said before,David Leigh statement should show Virgie as (ringleader) to her own demise.In keeping a family feud going,that would bring out family secrets,so if Virgie wanted it then,and it did not bother her,what is the difference when her family secret come out,Virgie Arthur put herself out there,and as bloggers,we all had a comment.As far as researching goes,before Virgie lost every round,trying so very hard to destroy Howard,she did not care what was said ,as long as she was in the news,only when she lost in the bahamas at the inquest,lost getting Dannielynn,lost in Florida,then and only than was she (DEFAMED) MY OPINION——McCabe want a ringleader,look toward his own client the mother of all ringleaders Virgie Arthur herself,Her comments,her actions her constant lying,OQ,McCabe Rita and the rest of the sub human group,who could care less about Anna Nicole and her son,I start shaking at the thought of what Anna went through with Virgie.(what does it profit a man if you gain the whole world,and lose your soul.)As I have said before,David Leigh statement should show Virgie as (ringleader) to her own demise.In keeping a family feud going,that would bring out family secrets,so if Virgie wanted it then,and it did not bother her,what is the difference when her family secret come out,Virgie Arthur put herself out there,and as bloggers,we all had a comment.As far as researching goes,before Virgie lost every round,trying so very hard to destroy Howard,she did not care what was said ,as long as she was in the news,only when she lost in the bahamas at the inquest,lost getting Dannielynn,lost in Florida,then and only than was she (DEFAMED)

]]> By: hmm http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42492 hmm Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:20:13 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42492 I am not real computer literate Like just today I found out if you had an email address and the money you could find out who it belonged to.Never even considered that even though I know you can pay to find out other things about people on the internet like phone# and addresses ect.Guess I am really back word when it comes to computers.Trina I though McShame always said Howard and Bonnie were the ringleaders and Rose maybe a conduit.You are right there was and IMO is no conspiracy except for the one against Howard .I guess i just don't understand how someone could get so into a case that they could make death threats and try and destroy a persons life and lively hood.That is just plain mean,nasty and cowardly. I am not real computer literate Like just today I found out if you had an email address and the money you could find out who it belonged to.Never even considered that even though I know you can pay to find out other things about people on the internet like phone# and addresses ect.Guess I am really back word when it comes to computers.Trina I though McShame always said Howard and Bonnie were the ringleaders and Rose maybe a conduit.You are right there was and IMO is no conspiracy except for the one against Howard .I guess i just don’t understand how someone could get so into a case that they could make death threats and try and destroy a persons life and lively hood.That is just plain mean,nasty and cowardly.

]]> By: trina http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42484 trina Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:44:47 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42484 post #52 said that Rose was released as the ringleader by McCabe. Maybe it was just an opinion, but it made me want to ask the question. Sorry, I know there was no conspiracy and no ringleader much less an agent. It was just us here on the internet doing what we do. As far as researching individuals involved, that happens all the time on message boards. Virgie Arthur is a piece of work, imho. And that O'Q has a screw or too loose, imho. post #52 said that Rose was released as the ringleader by McCabe. Maybe it was just an opinion, but it made me want to ask the question. Sorry, I know there was no conspiracy and no ringleader much less an agent. It was just us here on the internet doing what we do. As far as researching individuals involved, that happens all the time on message boards. Virgie Arthur is a piece of work, imho. And that O’Q has a screw or too loose, imho.

]]> By: hmm http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42483 hmm Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:44:13 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42483 This whole mess makes me put my head down and cry.JMA and NCUser my heart goes out to you and your families.That is more than one can sometimes live with.. I can't believe that someone would do what they did to Howard .Those type of people belong in avery closed off space as do the people who are stalking our members.No matter you beliefs you should do no harm first and fore most.These people from the dark side say they are true christians,well they sure do not act that way or the way God and Jesus taught us to behave. I am Glad to see CBS is backing Art and hope it will help the rest of you. Rose,Ken and moderators this is the only plac e I go to that I feel safe in posting my thoughts without someone trashing me or calling me names so I sure hope you keep this site open.But you must do what is best for you and yours.I just wish someone with big bucks would go after the stalkers and show them they can't hide.I hope that with some of the things going on that the LE takes care of some things especially the stalkers. Bewildered I have been very worried about you with what is happening up in Alaska and sure hope you and yours are ok.Sunflower you take care.I too hope Bonnie and the whole Stern family know we stand behind them and support them. saves I am with you anytime anyplace especially close to hoem as I come from a cop family and have back up if need be. Most of the dark side are cowards and as shown by what happened at Roses home they run when confronted. This whole mess makes me put my head down and cry.JMA and NCUser my heart goes out to you and your families.That is more than one can sometimes live with.. I can’t believe that someone would do what they did to Howard .Those type of people belong in avery closed off space as do the people who are stalking our members.No matter you beliefs you should do no harm first and fore most.These people from the dark side say they are true christians,well they sure do not act that way or the way God and Jesus taught us to behave.
I am Glad to see CBS is backing Art and hope it will help the rest of you.
Rose,Ken and moderators this is the only plac e I go to that I feel safe in posting my thoughts without someone trashing me or calling me names so I sure hope you keep this site open.But you must do what is best for you and yours.I just wish someone with big bucks would go after the stalkers and show them they can’t hide.I hope that with some of the things going on that the LE takes care of some things especially the stalkers.
Bewildered I have been very worried about you with what is happening up in Alaska and sure hope you and yours are ok.Sunflower you take care.I too hope Bonnie and the whole Stern family know we stand behind them and support them.
saves I am with you anytime anyplace especially close to hoem as I come from a cop family
and have back up if need be. Most of the dark side are cowards and as shown by what happened at Roses home they run when confronted.

]]> By: Sunflower http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42482 Sunflower Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:33:07 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42482 #58 JMA, that is absolutely right, neither Rose or Bonnie where doing anything wrong it was all in her deranged mind. Bonnie ask Rose to check things because after the mistake that JD made with the word incest Bonnie did not want that to happen again. But someone couldn't except that Rose may have been better qualified. You can understand someone using the word queen in their name could have problems with that, LOL. #60 Lucky, thanks they have twisted and turned this case so much it had to keep up, LOL. #64 trina, if you read the court documents you will see that McCabe is the one using the references depicting Rose. Until he read the emails that Rose released. #65 Beth, there was a ring leader it just wasn't Rose, but you are right only in the mind of people having fantasies. And there was NEVER a conspiracy that was only in McCabe's demented mind. #58 JMA, that is absolutely right, neither Rose or Bonnie where doing anything wrong it was all in her deranged mind. Bonnie ask Rose to check things because after the mistake that JD made with the word incest Bonnie did not want that to happen again. But someone couldn’t except that Rose may have been better qualified. You can understand someone using the word queen in their name could have problems with that, LOL.

#60 Lucky, thanks they have twisted and turned this case so much it had to keep up, LOL.

#64 trina, if you read the court documents you will see that McCabe is the one using the references depicting Rose. Until he read the emails that Rose released.

#65 Beth, there was a ring leader it just wasn’t Rose, but you are right only in the mind of people having fantasies. And there was NEVER a conspiracy that was only in McCabe’s demented mind.

]]> By: Beth http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42481 Beth Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:06:13 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42481 trina, There is NO RINGLEADER! There is no conspiracy! Rose is NOT an agent of anything... except in the fantasies of the TX firm. IMO I would like to KNOW your opinion on IF YOU believe what McCabe and VA is doing is right, I mean DO YOU THINK this TX State case has merit? I know that no one else here does. Answer or do not answer, (I do not care really - as I have my own thoughts on it already) ...just thought I'd throw the question out there. trina,
There is NO RINGLEADER! There is no conspiracy!
Rose is NOT an agent of anything… except in the fantasies of the TX firm. IMO

I would like to KNOW your opinion on IF YOU believe what McCabe and VA is doing is right, I mean DO YOU THINK this TX State case has merit?
I know that no one else here does. Answer or do not answer, (I do not care really – as I have my own thoughts on it already)
…just thought I’d throw the question out there.

]]> By: trina http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42480 trina Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:51:09 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42480 I really wasn't aware that Rose was considered the ringleader of the conspiracy, I though Rose was an agent. I thought HKS was the alledged ringleader. But having said that, when or how did McC release Rose as the ringleader? I really wasn’t aware that Rose was considered the ringleader of the conspiracy, I though Rose was an agent. I thought HKS was the alledged ringleader. But having said that, when or how did McC release Rose as the ringleader?

]]> By: savesomething http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42479 savesomething Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:35:08 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42479 I just start to read affidavite A litlle error occur sayingdeposition 15 december 2009 lol!! I will read but it look like I make invasion on private life.....sorry I just start to read affidavite A litlle error occur sayingdeposition 15 december 2009 lol!!
I will read but it look like I make invasion on private life…..sorry

]]> By: savesomething http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42478 savesomething Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:26:22 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42478 Look like it was set for the 6 february,special appearances and Theresa was involve to. As Qv Sun you are right and an oder thing was when Bonnie thanks all for the support she(bonnie) did not sent Qv personal thanks.Am I ok on this one??? look like it was so many years ago/ Look like it was set for the 6 february,special appearances and Theresa was involve to.
As Qv Sun you are right and an oder thing was when Bonnie thanks all for the support she(bonnie) did not sent Qv personal thanks.Am I ok on this one??? look like it was so many years ago/

]]> By: Lucky http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42477 Lucky Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:12:08 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42477 Rose....I have lost track of things. Is the hearing Friday for the special appearances? If not, what. Thanks Rose….I have lost track of things. Is the hearing Friday for the special appearances? If not, what. Thanks

]]> By: Lucky http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42476 Lucky Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:05:40 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42476 Sunflower...........the story in which they were originally suing over seemed to have changed now. Still keeping them for jurisdiction yes. Going after the big boys. Those big boys have sharp lawyers, wont be long now. The Judge be shading her head if she has read everything by now. Spitfire...............are you saying they tried that with you too? I never heard about anyone but Rose they were doing it too. Sorry to hear it happened to you too. Rose.................glad to hear Lyndal is taking care of what she needs to as well. They need to cut those gals loose. It will never amount to anything worthwhile and maybe they know it by now. If it were me, I would make them buy me a new puter. I hear the experts can ruin things in the process. Sunflower………..the story in which they were originally suing over seemed to have changed now. Still keeping them for jurisdiction yes. Going after the big boys. Those big boys have sharp lawyers, wont be long now. The Judge be shading her head if she has read everything by now.

Spitfire……………are you saying they tried that with you too? I never heard about anyone but Rose they were doing it too. Sorry to hear it happened to you too.

Rose……………..glad to hear Lyndal is taking care of what she needs to as well. They need to cut those gals loose. It will never amount to anything worthwhile and maybe they know it by now. If it were me, I would make them buy me a new puter. I hear the experts can ruin things in the process.

]]> By: Rose http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42475 Rose Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:55:43 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42475 February 3, 2009 Lyndal Harrington Police report showing personal computer stolen and not available for forensic imaging which means that they will have to subpoena yahoo.com for emails. http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1517 February 3, 2009 Teresa Stephens Notice of Hearing for February 6, 2009 at 9:00 AM to ask the court to issue a subpoena to yahoo.com to retrieve old emails. http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1518 February 3, 2009 Lyndal Harrington Police report showing personal computer stolen and not available for forensic imaging which means that they will have to subpoena yahoo.com for emails.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1517

February 3, 2009 Teresa Stephens Notice of Hearing for February 6, 2009 at 9:00 AM to ask the court to issue a subpoena to yahoo.com to retrieve old emails.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1518

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42474 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:55:25 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42474 Sunflower, oh so basically it was more of QV’s spiteful revenge shit against Bonnie to. Sunflower, oh so basically it was more of QV’s spiteful revenge shit against Bonnie to.

]]> By: Sunflower http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42473 Sunflower Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:40:36 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42473 #56 CORRECTION - Rose to read #56 CORRECTION – Rose to read

]]> By: Sunflower http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42472 Sunflower Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:38:39 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42472 #54 JMA, the orginial problem broke out because Bonnie asked Rose is read information that was coming from the researchers and didn't ask QV if that was OK. So QV got mad at Rose and Bonnie for not keeping her informed. I don't think Bonnie knew she had go through QV for permission. #54 JMA, the orginial problem broke out because Bonnie asked Rose is read information that was coming from the researchers and didn’t ask QV if that was OK. So QV got mad at Rose and Bonnie for not keeping her informed. I don’t think Bonnie knew she had go through QV for permission.

]]> By: Sunflower http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42471 Sunflower Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:30:57 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42471 53. JMA, you are so right, who knows now, LOL. Anything goes. Wonder if the judge is aware McCabe has made changes, she said she was not reading all the paperwork? 53. JMA, you are so right, who knows now, LOL. Anything goes. Wonder if the judge is aware McCabe has made changes, she said she was not reading all the paperwork?

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42470 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:25:46 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42470 SpitfireGrl I was never part of that site so I am still clueless when it comes to everything that was done so if you do not mind me asking, what was QV’s reason for wanting others to trash Bonnie in their comments. SpitfireGrl I was never part of that site so I am still clueless when it comes to everything that was done so if you do not mind me asking, what was QV’s reason for wanting others to trash Bonnie in their comments.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42469 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:14:51 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42469 Sunflower [52] you are not the only one confused as to what exactly is trying to be proven either. IMO McCabe himself is confused which is why he keeps making these changes to the suit or he is just incompetent. Sunflower [52] you are not the only one confused as to what exactly is trying to be proven either. IMO McCabe himself is confused which is why he keeps making these changes to the suit or he is just incompetent.

]]> By: Sunflower http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42468 Sunflower Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:02:07 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42468 Rose, I'm not understanding the point of the Texas case now. What do they think they will get out of this case, money from CBS and TMZ????? Because it's been made painfully clear that no one else has money. 1. First they sued CBS and Howard for the ET interview accusing Howard of controlling Anna to defame Virgie. Then McCabe twisted the suit to go after you for conspiracy after QV and Havana sent emails, using you for jurisdiction in Texas. 2. Then they dragged you and the bloggers into the case and accused you and the bloggers for the TMZ article. 3. McCabe after seeing all the emails figured out he was lied too. 4. After reading the email showing that Larry Birkhead was responsible. McCabe dragged Larry into the suit. 5. McCabe released you as the ring leader of the conspiracy after finding out the truth, you had nothing to do with the starting of the conspiracy. 6. Now McCabe is going after Art Harris for the interview with Virgie's husband's wife's adopted son in prison, aired on ET/CBS + the articles he wrote. 7. So now McCabe is going after ET/CBS on two interviews using Howard and Art to connect the dots. A. Also going after Larry Birkhead and Harvey Levin for the TMZ article using, Howard, Bonnie, you and the bloggers to connect the dots. B. Using you, Lyndal and Teresa to make jurisdiction in Texas??? Rose, I’m not understanding the point of the Texas case now. What do they think they will get out of this case, money from CBS and TMZ????? Because it’s been made painfully clear that no one else has money.

1. First they sued CBS and Howard for the ET interview accusing Howard of controlling Anna to defame Virgie. Then McCabe twisted the suit to go after you for conspiracy after QV and Havana sent emails, using you for jurisdiction in Texas.
2. Then they dragged you and the bloggers into the case and accused you and the bloggers for the TMZ article.
3. McCabe after seeing all the emails figured out he was lied too.
4. After reading the email showing that Larry Birkhead was responsible. McCabe dragged Larry into the suit.
5. McCabe released you as the ring leader of the conspiracy after finding out the truth, you had nothing to do with the starting of the conspiracy.
6. Now McCabe is going after Art Harris for the interview with Virgie’s husband’s wife’s adopted son in prison, aired on ET/CBS + the articles he wrote.
7. So now McCabe is going after ET/CBS on two interviews using Howard and Art to connect the dots.
A. Also going after Larry Birkhead and Harvey Levin for the TMZ article using, Howard, Bonnie, you and the bloggers to connect the dots.
B. Using you, Lyndal and Teresa to make jurisdiction in Texas???

]]> By: SpitfireGrl http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42467 SpitfireGrl Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:52:03 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42467 Rose, Ken, Howard, and Bonnie. I'm so sorry that there are so many evil people out there, that they have nothing better to..than to destroy innocent lives. I hope you all reach deep inside and pull enough strength to go on and not let these people win. I honestly do not understand how they can even sleep at night. "That other site owner, the emails I have been sent where she is asking, no begging people to go out and find anything, just anything that can connect me to child porn," Just like how she sent emails out to certain people asking them, to "trash Bonnie" in their comments. Thats when I drew the line. Rose, Ken, Howard, and Bonnie. I’m so sorry that there are so many
evil people out there, that they have nothing better to..than to destroy innocent lives.
I hope you all reach deep inside and pull enough strength to go on and not let these
people win. I honestly do not understand how they can even sleep at night.

“That other site owner, the emails I have been sent where she is asking, no begging people to go out and find anything, just anything that can connect me to child porn,”

Just like how she sent emails out to certain people asking them, to “trash Bonnie” in their comments. Thats when I drew the line.

]]> By: heath http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42466 heath Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:54:22 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42466 #19 NCUser I am sorry your family is going through this. Your sister is a strong lady who loves her husband unconditionally. She couldn't change him but I bet she helped manage him so less chaos happened. She will need a lot of support when he passes as so much of her life is wrapped up in this man. My thoughts are with you... #19 NCUser I am sorry your family is going through this.

Your sister is a strong lady who loves her husband unconditionally.
She couldn’t change him but I bet she helped manage him so less chaos happened.

She will need a lot of support when he passes as so much of her life is wrapped up in this man.

My thoughts are with you…

]]> By: savesomething http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42465 savesomething Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:11:08 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42465 Well, Jonbenet case reopend!! CNN Well, Jonbenet case reopend!! CNN

]]> By: Bewildered http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42463 Bewildered Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:08:57 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42463 Oh Rose. I feel so bad for you and Ken. I've been gone but watching and reading from afar trying to keep up. The same feelings you have over this story I'm sure is magnified in Howard's life and just proves more that the defamation case in NY will probably settle. So many lives ruined from gossip mongers and outright liars! And for what gain? There has never been anyone that gained anything over the early deaths of two lost souls. Early on at Art's site, I wrote that those who had a hand in perpetuating the grief over Anna and Daniel's death, to never have another rested sleep. And those that mourned to find solace and the hope that one day good could come from their deaths. There is still that hope. That the true story can be told and people can be helped that are still in the cycle. You can be an advocate for that. Please don't give up. Oh Rose. I feel so bad for you and Ken. I’ve been gone but watching and reading from afar trying to keep up.

The same feelings you have over this story I’m sure is magnified in Howard’s life and just proves more that the defamation case in NY will probably settle. So many lives ruined from gossip mongers and outright liars! And for what gain? There has never been anyone that gained anything over the early deaths of two lost souls. Early on at Art’s site, I wrote that those who had a hand in perpetuating the grief over Anna and Daniel’s death, to never have another rested sleep. And those that mourned to find solace and the hope that one day good could come from their deaths. There is still that hope. That the true story can be told and people can be helped that are still in the cycle. You can be an advocate for that. Please don’t give up.

]]> By: Rose http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42462 Rose Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:02:58 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42462 #17 wulfson "It would have been nice to read the excerpt in it’s entirety as some will claim the snippets we can see makes one wonder if the missing portion might not portray Stern in a favorable light." This was filed by Rita Cosby's lawyer, out of about 1,000 pages of transcript for 2 days of course they picked the 118 pages that made Howard K. Stern look the worse... that is Cosby's lawyer's JOB.... I got to pick out the 35 pages that I thought told the story about too many lawyers in a room fighting over every questions and the part about what HKS had gone through... It is one of those things, I sat up that night I got the papers and for once like the lawyers I got to slice and dice what I put up and still did not release "Confidential Articles". #17 wulfson “It would have been nice to read the excerpt in it’s entirety as some will claim the snippets we can see makes one wonder if the missing portion might not portray Stern in a favorable light.”

This was filed by Rita Cosby’s lawyer, out of about 1,000 pages of transcript for 2 days of course they picked the 118 pages that made Howard K. Stern look the worse… that is Cosby’s lawyer’s JOB….

I got to pick out the 35 pages that I thought told the story about too many lawyers in a room fighting over every questions and the part about what HKS had gone through…

It is one of those things, I sat up that night I got the papers and for once like the lawyers I got to slice and dice what I put up and still did not release “Confidential Articles”.

]]> By: Roxanne http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42461 Roxanne Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:59:23 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42461 17 Wulfson I talked with Rose about that and the conclusion was made that the info. was just to confidential. It deals a lot of with Anna's financial affairs from my understanding and some of HKS's as well as Dannielynns paternity. Things that Rose said are really personal and private. But, your right, it will be spun the other way and everyone knows it. 19 NCUser I'm sorry your family is going thru so much pain right now. Your sister did exactly what anyone who loves an addict does. It's a hard situation to deal with and not everyone knows what to do. It's something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. 17
Wulfson
I talked with Rose about that and the conclusion was made that the info. was just to confidential. It deals a lot of with Anna’s financial affairs from my understanding and some of HKS’s as well as Dannielynns paternity. Things that Rose said are really personal and private. But, your right, it will be spun the other way and everyone knows it.

19 NCUser
I’m sorry your family is going thru so much pain right now. Your sister did exactly what anyone who loves an addict does. It’s a hard situation to deal with and not everyone knows what to do. It’s something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42460 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:56:43 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42460 Lucky [42] oh I do not think it is true either and yes you are right it is the perfect example as to just how far those two will go. Lucky [42] oh I do not think it is true either and yes you are right it is the perfect example as to just how far those two will go.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42459 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:54:51 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42459 Yes, savesomething and I think it was said that one of them was claiming Wilma confided in them about it. You know I am starting to think the claim Whack made about one of them having legal counsel and is supposedly the reason they do not post [yeah right] on Topix anymore is for others reason than the one Whack is trying to make people believe. Meaning I, think Whack is trying to make it look as though that person is legally up against Targets but I think it is something of total opposite. This all is clearly just from my own observation and opinion. Yes, savesomething and I think it was said that one of them was claiming Wilma confided in them about it.

You know I am starting to think the claim Whack made about one of them having legal counsel and is supposedly the reason they do not post [yeah right] on Topix anymore is for others reason than the one Whack is trying to make people believe. Meaning I, think Whack is trying to make it look as though that person is legally up against Targets but I think it is something of total opposite.

This all is clearly just from my own observation and opinion.

]]> By: Daisy http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42458 Daisy Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:33:28 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42458 good for Art...hope all goes well for him. good for Art…hope all goes well for him.

]]> By: Lucky http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42457 Lucky Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:29:04 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42457 JMA........dont think that was true. But since I was not there, then I cant say for a fact. But prob a rumor whore. That is great example of what they are willing to do to folks. They started making all that up after she got on to them for their behavior in the Bahamas supposedly. I really dont and dont want to know. All lies and gossip to me. I know for a fact their article was a lie and everything out of their mouths, so I would not trust one word they ever said. EVER JMA……..dont think that was true. But since I was not there, then I cant say for a fact. But prob a rumor whore. That is great example of what they are willing to do to folks. They started making all that up after she got on to them for their behavior in the Bahamas supposedly. I really dont and dont want to know. All lies and gossip to me. I know for a fact their article was a lie and everything out of their mouths, so I would not trust one word they ever said. EVER

]]> By: savesomething http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42456 savesomething Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:24:33 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42456 Oh greattttttt new Rose !!!! i am happy about the move .... JMA I heard about it to.Like Clark ad an a###### with W. Oh greattttttt new Rose !!!! i am happy about the move ….
JMA I heard about it to.Like Clark ad an a###### with W.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42455 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:21:00 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42455 Rose [37] that is excellent news. Rose [37] that is excellent news.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42454 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:19:47 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42454 Didn't they also make a claim somewhere about Wilma and Clark having a drunken love affair? I seem to remember reading that somewhere. If it is true they said it Wilma should be really pissed. Didn’t they also make a claim somewhere about Wilma and Clark having a drunken love affair? I seem to remember reading that somewhere. If it is true they said it Wilma should be really pissed.

]]> By: Lucky http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42453 Lucky Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:18:25 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42453 Rose..................great news for Art. I sent you an email about not being able to download something. Let me know. Thanks. Rose………………great news for Art. I sent you an email about not being able to download something. Let me know. Thanks.

]]> By: Rose http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42452 Rose Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:14:05 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42452 February 2, 2008 CBS/ET’s lawyer, Charles Babcock, Nancy Hamilton and Amanda Bush of Jackson Walker pick up Art Harris as a client in the Texas state Court of Virgie Arthur vs. Howard K. Stern, TMZ.com et. al. http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1516 February 2, 2008 CBS/ET’s lawyer, Charles Babcock, Nancy Hamilton and Amanda Bush of Jackson Walker pick up Art Harris as a client in the Texas state Court of Virgie Arthur vs. Howard K. Stern, TMZ.com et. al.

http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1516

]]> By: Lucky http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42450 Lucky Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:59:25 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42450 JMA......yes he did mention the Bahamas but did not say everything. Depos are for in general. He can get more detailed in the trial. Sure all that is documented and oh how they bragged and even hollered....hey yall got that DNA yet? What a bunch of bull balls, lol. So yes, he can bring that up in both cases I would think. Now word is that Wilma was real mad at them for that trip too. Not sure what all is factual yet. Those bull gals really helped the cases didn't they? More than they know. How nice of them. JMA……yes he did mention the Bahamas but did not say everything. Depos are for in general. He can get more detailed in the trial. Sure all that is documented and oh how they bragged and even hollered….hey yall got that DNA yet? What a bunch of bull balls, lol. So yes, he can bring that up in both cases I would think. Now word is that Wilma was real mad at them for that trip too. Not sure what all is factual yet. Those bull gals really helped the cases didn’t they? More than they know. How nice of them.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42449 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:58:07 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42449 What really breaks my heart is reading where Howard mentions suicide but how he could not hurt his parents with that, but then says how he really wants to die. What really breaks my heart is reading where Howard mentions suicide but how he could not hurt his parents with that, but then says how he really wants to die.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42448 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:51:54 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42448 correction #32 "but no mention" not know correction #32 “but no mention” not know

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42447 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:50:33 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42447 Lucky [30] I hope you are right about the possibility of all that coming up later. It would be nice if it came out during the Texas suit. As you said by their claim VA and Clark were witnesses to their childish taunting. Matter of fact didn’t they claim Clark sent over a drink to Howard? Now this kind of evidence could be very important to the Texas suit and if everything those two claimed happened in the Bahamas is true and VA & Clark knew, wow. There is no denying the two of them made all the claims due to the article written about their adventure can be found in certain sites not to mention quite sure, there are also screenshots as well. Lucky [30] I hope you are right about the possibility of all that coming up later. It would be nice if it came out during the Texas suit. As you said by their claim VA and Clark were witnesses to their childish taunting. Matter of fact didn’t they claim Clark sent over a drink to Howard? Now this kind of evidence could be very important to the Texas suit and if everything those two claimed happened in the Bahamas is true and VA & Clark knew, wow. There is no denying the two of them made all the claims due to the article written about their adventure can be found in certain sites not to mention quite sure, there are also screenshots as well.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42446 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:39:28 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42446 Lucky I take back what I said [post #18] about the Bahamas not being mentioned. I should have read the paperwork before I spoke. Howard does mention it happening in the Bahamas at the market but know mentioning of anything happening during the Movie Premiere. So that takes me back to what I said earlier, if those two really got close enough to Howard and taunted, ridiculed, sent drinks, followed him outside when taking a smoke and commenting about his smoking to him directly and on and on Howard would not have any problem forgetting it and would have mentioned it during the Defamation. Liz even has the nerve to inquire whether Howard suffered physical harm during those times of humiliation he endured. WTF would that have pleased her, Rita or Virgie if he had. What difference does it make what kind of harm he suffered point is he suffered due to those accusations Cosby put in black and white. Lucky I take back what I said [post #18] about the Bahamas not being mentioned. I should have read the paperwork before I spoke. Howard does mention it happening in the Bahamas at the market but know mentioning of anything happening during the Movie Premiere. So that takes me back to what I said earlier, if those two really got close enough to Howard and taunted, ridiculed, sent drinks, followed him outside when taking a smoke and commenting about his smoking to him directly and on and on Howard would not have any problem forgetting it and would have mentioned it during the Defamation.

Liz even has the nerve to inquire whether Howard suffered physical harm during those times of humiliation he endured. WTF would that have pleased her, Rita or Virgie if he had. What difference does it make what kind of harm he suffered point is he suffered due to those accusations Cosby put in black and white.

]]> By: Sunflower http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42445 Sunflower Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:48:47 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42445 #22 JMA, you hit the nail on the head, LOL! #22 JMA, you hit the nail on the head, LOL!

]]> By: Lucky http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42444 Lucky Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:48:10 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42444 JMA......yes your right, supposedly VA, DC and others witnessed that harassment. I am sure he could list them all as there are so many. Might come up later if need be. NCUser...............very sorry to hear about your loss. My thought and prayers will be with your family in this sad time in your life. Take care. Saves...........you crack me up. You go girl. You and I together could be like the bad news bears! JMA……yes your right, supposedly VA, DC and others witnessed that harassment. I am sure he could list them all as there are so many. Might come up later if need be.

NCUser……………very sorry to hear about your loss. My thought and prayers will be with your family in this sad time in your life. Take care.

Saves………..you crack me up. You go girl. You and I together could be like the bad news bears!

]]> By: Sunflower http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42443 Sunflower Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:40:34 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42443 Rose, great article one of the best so far. I understand how you and Ken feel. So sorry you have had to go through so much pain. So sad that some people in this world get a HIGH out of destroying others lives. So sick also and there is a word for that but I won't get into that now. I sure hope that Ken had a shotgun or rifle in his hand as he ran out the front door. I would have loved to have heard about the back tires of that red four door being shot out. Maybe another day! The heartache that Bonnie, Howard and their family have experienced is insurmountable. As did the Ramsey's and Richard Jewel's family. Our nation has many who thrive on revenge and retaliation to others they don't even know. Sad but true as some of us have experienced first hand. I have supported and encouraged Howard since before Anna died and will continue too. As people can read in the emails written by Bonnie Stern one thing that shines out is her genuine love, care and concern for others and their families. In the midst of everything she was going through she took time to reach out to others. What a gal! NCUser, my heart goes out to you and your sister, our thoughts and prayer will be with you. #17 Wulfson, run over to QV's maybe her and McCabe can get you what you want. Rose, great article one of the best so far. I understand how you and Ken feel. So sorry you have had to go through so much pain. So sad that some people in this world get a HIGH out of destroying others lives. So sick also and there is a word for that but I won’t get into that now. I sure hope that Ken had a shotgun or rifle in his hand as he ran out the front door. I would have loved to have heard about the back tires of that red four door being shot out. Maybe another day!

The heartache that Bonnie, Howard and their family have experienced is insurmountable. As did the Ramsey’s and Richard Jewel’s family. Our nation has many who thrive on revenge and retaliation to others they don’t even know. Sad but true as some of us have experienced first hand.
I have supported and encouraged Howard since before Anna died and will continue too. As people can read in the emails written by Bonnie Stern one thing that shines out is her genuine love, care and concern for others and their families. In the midst of everything she was going through she took time to reach out to others. What a gal!

NCUser, my heart goes out to you and your sister, our thoughts and prayer will be with you.

#17 Wulfson, run over to QV’s maybe her and McCabe can get you what you want.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42442 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:27:34 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42442 savesomething [27] LOL savesomething [27] LOL

]]> By: savesomething http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42441 savesomething Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:44:35 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42441 Rose I new somes of the "good "persons were giving you a bad times.Bad Lucky and I were not at the Good place at the right time. If some would like to meet me ,anytime any place,just take appointement! Rose I new somes of the “good “persons were giving you a bad times.Bad Lucky and I were not at the Good place at the right time.
If some would like to meet me ,anytime any place,just take appointement!

]]> By: savesomething http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42440 savesomething Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:41:07 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42440 # 17,Wulfson, If you would like the rest of the transcript, to show HKS as a bad guy, ask RC or Mc namara. Sure they will be happy to sent it to you, all the rest of the transcript you desire, to have a nice an clear view. Then you will see how some criminal are able to do to release some"confidential and really confidential" papers on Pacer by idnadvertance!!! By the way don't forget to read "REAL AMBITION," RC, 2007 # 17,Wulfson, If you would like the rest of the transcript, to show HKS as a bad guy, ask RC or Mc namara. Sure they will be happy to sent it to you, all the rest of the transcript you desire, to have a nice an clear view. Then you will see how some criminal are able to do to release some”confidential and really confidential” papers on Pacer by idnadvertance!!!
By the way don’t forget to read “REAL AMBITION,” RC, 2007

]]> By: Beth http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42439 Beth Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:25:32 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42439 [17] (???) OR! It might just MEAN > Rose is keeping other's confidential information... CONFIDENTIAL! In fact, I am sure of HER intentions, others... NOT so much. [17] (???)
OR! It might just MEAN > Rose is keeping other’s confidential information… CONFIDENTIAL!

In fact, I am sure of HER intentions, others… NOT so much.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42438 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:17:10 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42438 NCUser [19] wow I am so sorry. I do know someone who went through this very thing sort of. She spent her entire life with this man enduring the daily stress that his alcoholism caused. There was a time she did separate from him but only to return and continue the pattern and yes even went as far as to getting his alcohol for him just so he would not go out and endanger the lives of others. Eventually he stopped drinking due to many health issues the alcohol had caused but she being his wife was right there taking care of him. Unfortunately, he passed away last Monday so here she is having to say goodbye to her husband only a few short months after losing her only son. I had told some of you in the forum about the loss of my ex brother-in-law due to complications from diabetes [some brought on by former alcohol and drug use] back in November, the service I will be attending this coming Saturday is his fathers. NCUser my heart goes out to your sister. Please let her know it takes a very special person to withstand everything that she went through only to stay in the fight until the end. Regardless of all the stress and hell, he may have put her through in his time of need she puts it aside and with that, this shows just how much she truly loves this man. NCUser [19] wow I am so sorry. I do know someone who went through this very thing sort of. She spent her entire life with this man enduring the daily stress that his alcoholism caused. There was a time she did separate from him but only to return and continue the pattern and yes even went as far as to getting his alcohol for him just so he would not go out and endanger the lives of others. Eventually he stopped drinking due to many health issues the alcohol had caused but she being his wife was right there taking care of him. Unfortunately, he passed away last Monday so here she is having to say goodbye to her husband only a few short months after losing her only son. I had told some of you in the forum about the loss of my ex brother-in-law due to complications from diabetes [some brought on by former alcohol and drug use] back in November, the service I will be attending this coming Saturday is his fathers.

NCUser my heart goes out to your sister. Please let her know it takes a very special person to withstand everything that she went through only to stay in the fight until the end. Regardless of all the stress and hell, he may have put her through in his time of need she puts it aside and with that, this shows just how much she truly loves this man.

]]> By: BEVERLY http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42437 BEVERLY Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:01:55 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42437 Dear Rose and Ken-----After reading your article,I can feel your depression,and sadness.So many lifes have been touched and destroyed,by Virgie constant and evil doing,In your thoughts,please know that you have helped so many understand,and enjoy contributing there thoughts to each outcome of the Howard Stern saga.Having your site has helped a lot of people work through there anger of injustice,Know,Rose and Ken you have MY appreciation. Dear Rose and Ken—–After reading your article,I can feel your depression,and sadness.So many lifes have been touched and destroyed,by Virgie constant and evil doing,In your thoughts,please know that you have helped so many understand,and enjoy contributing there thoughts to each outcome of the Howard Stern saga.Having your site has helped a lot of people work through there anger of injustice,Know,Rose and Ken you have MY appreciation.

]]> By: JMA http://www.rosespeaks.com/2009/02/02/you-have-to-know-when-to-hold-them-know-when-to-fold-them-and-know-when-to-walk-away/#comment-42436 JMA Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:49:54 +0000 http://www.rosespeaks.com/rose-blog/?p=1219#comment-42436 Roxanne [13] what I would like to know is what did this person expected to prove by going out of their way to find where Rose and Ken lived other then they are a psychotic nut. TZ [15] I am with you, I would love for any of them to repeat the crap in front of me that they say behind the security of a computer. This is bullying shit is being carried too far and needs to end. Roxanne [13] what I would like to know is what did this person expected to prove by going out of their way to find where Rose and Ken lived other then they are a psychotic nut.

TZ [15] I am with you, I would love for any of them to repeat the crap in front of me that they say behind the security of a computer. This is bullying shit is being carried too far and needs to end.

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