Comments on: Howard K. Stern’s Lean, Mean, Fighting Machine in Florida?

By: raven

raven — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:35:34 +0000

Rose, I like that Title….”Lean, Mean, Fighting Machine.

By: Rose

Rose — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:20:15 +0000

It was Denise James Beth, if I remember correctly, any one else remember that? She was crying on the witness stand, apologizing for what she was sharing about what Anna had told her about Virgie, and that Mrs. James had told Anna she would think of her like a mother. It was very moving testimony in my opinion or it was for me, and then O’Quinn fainted. They reorganized during the lunch break, and Ms. James was not required or needed to come back to finish up. That always stuck out to me since I did not know who O’Quinn was at the time except for his comments to Cosby coming and leaving the courthouse and how I thought what he was saying was so over the top of spinning for his client.

By: Beth

Beth — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:49:45 +0000

I cannot remember who exactly was in the witness seat being asked questions when O’Quinn fell.
I seriously thought he was leaning back in the chair and fell asleep… (or) just fell over sideways off the chair from falling asleep.
I remember the ’spin’ about the low blood sugar and all, but it was actually the Judge who brought that up I think.

It would be very interesting to see the footage of who was being questioned and exactly what the ‘topic’ was about at the time of his fall…

‘Help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!’

sorry, couldn’t resist typing that :o

By: Rose

Rose — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:49:26 +0000

#23 Sarah54 ALL good questions and yes I have thought about the passing out from O’Quinn could have been a ploy to get the court to take a break (which it did) so that they could reorganize the witnesses for Virgie, a lot of good questions you have posed here.

By: Rose

Rose — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:33:42 +0000

New documents and new Orders out of Florida

By: Daisy

Daisy — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:33:06 +0000

On Rose’s last question, “your opinions did Vicedomine come clean so to say during her deposition and production of documents”
ROTFLMAO
Like I said Wilma is going to help Stern in so many ways, she just doesn’t know it.
Harding…I agree with Bev

By: BEVERLY

BEVERLY — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:15:02 +0000

OQ –She sat in the courtroom(she meaning Virgie).She has her own judgement about what she heard,everybody has a judgement by now about what they heard GRETA—– And you agree with that judgement–murder, OQ you better believe it.Why does a man ask for a will four days before a person dies. Well,as a Officer of the Court,that was a stupid statement,or deliberate intent to harm Howard,Daniel had just died ,and I would think any will of Anna.s would have to be looked at NO one was thinking anything else . OQ tryed had to make it look unscruplous .

By: BEVERLY

BEVERLY — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:40:30 +0000

When OQ was in Greta Van Susteren show”Daniel was-had already figured things out. He was trying to get an investigator to investigate Stern and he went to his mother for money and Stern learned of that and decided he needed to get rid of Daniel”.Now,none of that happened if harding will testifly OQ,asked him to lie,and that is the only reason I would think Lin Wood who want him to testifly,or get a depo,That is more than slander and malice,it will show what a unscruplous,Officer of the Court OQ is.

By: DiamondGirl

DiamondGirl — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:21:34 +0000

Ann, yes I remeber Canadian Cutie and her receiving the book early. I don’t buy the fact that she received it early and if you remember right the very next day there was the gay rumor about Larry and Howard on Times Square or Pez Hilton. I don’t think she even had 70 posts on CL. She showed up on on HOH and then was gone IIRC.

By: JMA

JMA — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:37:42 +0000

Ann [6] I remember when the comments from Canadian Cute were posted on TMZ, I automatically thought it was a Virgie supporter. Back then, I did not know who Wilma was so when I saw inserts from Rita’s book being posted there other names came to mind, like maybe the two who brown nosed and schmoozed with Virgie in the Bahamas.

By: JMA

JMA — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:22:20 +0000

snoopy [18] that is an interesting thought. Hey wouldn’t it be funny if the reliable sources Rita mentions in her book was really Virgie supporters that she blogged with just joking.

By: sarah54

sarah54 — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:45:32 +0000

does anyone else think that JO is too arrogant to settle w/o trial? considering he is suppose to be such a great (?????) lawyer he had to know that by saying the things he did to the media that he was opening the door for a lawsuit against him. although most of the time in interviews and even in his depo he came across as an uneducated and a not very intelligent old man (was this personna a planned tactic?). did he have such grandiose ideas about himself that it was inconceiveable to him that he the GREAT (??) JO couldn’t be brought down by HKS. did JO underestimate HKS’s abilities as an attorney and his determination to get justice for ANS and for Dannielynn’s peace of mind when she gets older? did it ever enter JO’s mind that HKS would hire LW.

one should never underestimate their opponent especially if they have done harm to someone that their opponent loves and has devoted their life to.

human beings and even animals have always had a powerful natural instinct to go to any lengths to protect their loved ones and it has been this way long before money was ever invented!!!!

also think a win in court against JO is probably more of a priority for HKS than the money from a settlement. besides if HKS wins in court he wins the lawsuit plus money. remember at ANS funeral HKS said that he and ANS knew the truth because they lived it. i think HKS is motivated by his love for ANS and getting justice for her for all the things done against her before and after her death. remember taking care of ANS was HKS life for years and now that she is gone it appears that getting justice for her is his life now.

a bit off topic but in FL court (case about ANS burial) I wonder how many people questioned at the time or since whether JO’s passing out in court was a tactic to get the attorneys, witnesses and judge seidlin off track? i wondered about it at the time but i’ve never brought it up to anyone before?

By: Tianna

Tianna — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:48:56 +0000

Ray- I hope you are right, I hadn’t even thought about that!!!!!

By: ray

ray — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:51:13 +0000

I want to ask a question. Do you think it’s possible that Wilma emailed TMZ for one thing or the other and they have her IP address and all the nicks she used with that IP address. I really do feel that Woods knows her nicks and he was waiting for her to lie. That is what a good attorney does, ask a question knowing the answer. And if you lie he drops the information in front of you.

By: Daisy

Daisy — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:22:22 +0000

One other thing I forgot to add, here is a great big shout out to Wilma Vice for making it so easy on Wood.
This case is a slam dunk and you have given him all he needs to prove malice intent to harm Howard and his family.
I think what you did was wrong, harmful and hateful and frankly I am tired of people like you who do nothing but harm our world.
Having said that I will still pray for you and hope one day you learn what you do is wrong; realizing, with what I know, you
will probably never change because your mind will justify what you do with some twisted reasoning because that is the way your life apparently
works. I will pray more for the people whose life’s cross your path.

By: Daisy

Daisy — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:02:41 +0000

Hi everyone, this is to funny to come back on line and read all of this.
My opinion is Wilma thinks she can lie and not get caught. I find it quite hilarious they caught her in her own web. She has tangled
the most ridiculous, lamb brained plot I have ever seen. There are so many flaws to her tactics I don’t even know where to begin.
Bottom line, she’s done and they know it. Not that she realizes it but most of her team does.

By: snoopy

snoopy — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:21:33 +0000

I am curious to know if RC blogged. She could have gotten some juicy gossip that way, lol.

By: snoopy

snoopy — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:20:15 +0000

I smell a settlement and soon. Fine and dandy by me too. If for any reason they go to trial, all the better. All of the truth can come out and they can leave Howard alone finially without question. No one can dispute the facts!

It is not uncommon to get a book early. They reserve so many to give out as gifts before it comes out. The fact that this candian cutie was on the special list would be interesting to know. All her monikers would be even better scoop, as I am very snoopy!

Febbie, going to check out chat.

By: hmm

hmm — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:11:15 +0000

What I wonder about is if Cosby still thinks Howard had to disprove anything about the tape.Seems to me she has to prove it.She once said that sh wasn’t worried about a suit because he would have to disprove her comments.Some yes but everything is out their and she did herself in when she tried to bribe the nannies.And yes Febbie I remember Canadian from TMZ also when she first came out and said she already had a copy of the book. I still think the book was published out of country so no one knew about it till it came out or rather was finished and Cosby told on her self

By: Febbie

Febbie — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:28:52 +0000

“Canadian Cutie ” was and had only posted abt 70 post before she become the most popular person for the Virgie side. She question other posters, and days before the time of the book coming out she sprung it on the other posters her’s was deliveried early. It was all a set up, and the Virgie bunch were in on it. It was like throwing slop to the pigs, and they were walling in it. It was a good laugh to think… all did not know what had occurred, and who was the master planner behind the curtains. How many times have they played the game, and most of us have watched… and shook our heads, wondering what they will try next. Guess it never helped them, now Rita probably wished she had never wrote a drama book.

By: Rose

Rose — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:03:50 +0000

#3 Lizzie, thanks for being so alert, Ms. Wade is still listed as one of the lawyers for Howard K. Stern in New York, wonder if her specialty is depositions like Lin Wood is known for?

By: glenna

glenna — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:48:46 +0000

HKS is the Plaintiff. A settlement would be in his favor. I don’t much care what people say. Things will be said either way.

By: savesomething

savesomething — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:38:45 +0000

her book was publish out of USA.

By: BEVERLY

BEVERLY — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:30:03 +0000

GLENNA—— you will never know how much I do not want a settlement.I have never had doubt about Howard,but ,he has come this far,i want him cleared by a judge or jury,You know how people are,they will say he settled to keep things quiet,Look at Michael Jackson,he gave the first boy,s family 20million so he would not have to go to court,that decision came back to haunt him.There are so many evil people in this,I want howard,to stand tall AND SOCK IT TO THEM.

By: Tianna

Tianna — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:19:21 +0000

Ann – A few of us have wondered about “Canadian Cutie” for awhile now and we all wondered where she was getting her info from, I have no idea if it was Wilma or not but it sure did seem like she had some inside info. Wasn’t her book also published in Canada? I can’t remember but I thought I read that somewhere. I have never even looked at the book so I have no idea where it was published. I do remember asking my book store to take it out of the true crime section and put it where it belonged in the novel or sci-fi section. LOL.

I am still having a hard time understanding how they can get Wilma to give up all her nic’s she might of used. How are they ever going to know all the nic’s she used???? MS did say the other day something about a poster having the same technique as Wima, so to me that says alot. She pretty much told us with that comment that Wilma was a blogger, which most of us already knew or thought anyhow.

By: glenna

glenna — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:50:39 +0000

A settlement would satisfy me. I already know the truth.

By: Beth

Beth — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:43:44 +0000

Beverly > #5 That is a great theory on Jack Harding, I do hope that it is what has happened!

The defendants entered the Confidentiality Order on September 4, 2008.
The counsel for the defendants in the Blonde Ambition Litigation has requested that the Confidential Discovery Materials, and Confidential Information contained should remain under seal for eighteen months.
MARCH 4, 2010 > this information should be made public then…
Bet this will read like a great mystery, a conspiracy novel that will reveal the true culprits in this saga.
I for one cannot wait to see all of this information!
Though if the cases are ‘settled’ – this information may remained sealed forever.

By: glenna

glenna — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:34:52 +0000

canadian cutie…Some really gave her a run for her money on CTV. Very questionable poster. Acting all innocent. He/she was heavily defended by those posters supporting Virgie. IMO, canadian cutie was definately a plant. And I’m not much into conspiracy theories and all, lol.

By: Ann

Ann — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:22:23 +0000

Does anyone remember “canadian cutie” who posted on the Crime Library forum? She appeared to have an advance copy of Cosby’s book and was posting info about the book before it came out. I wonder if that was Wilma.

By: BEVERLY

BEVERLY — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:19:23 +0000

This is my opinion—–I think at this stage of the game,Jack Harding is comming clean.The only reason that Lin Wood ,would use harding is to verify that OQ,approached him and ask him to lie.I am sure Ray Martino.will tell what happen any way,and it was that all three had coffee in a coffee shop and Harding handed Daniel his card,nothing more nothing less,and that was the end of it.IF this is proven,OQ cannot blame the puplic for being stupid in believeing what he had to say on Nancy Grace and Greta show,this shows a deliberate attempt to smear Howard(malice).

By: TZ

TZ — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:58:57 +0000

Although I am a little bit disappointed and of course a little frustrated with not being able to know whats going on, if we have to wait for the trails to start to be able to finally know the truth- then I have no problem with that whatsoever. I trust Lin Wood and I know he knows whats best for TeamSmith. And if we have to sit tight and wait, then we have to sit tight and wait.

By: Lizzie

Lizzie — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:34:38 +0000

Rose, re your article. Nicole Wade took the Steed deposition back in December 2007.

Jack Harding was obviously getting his information from somewhere during his 15 minutes of fame. Didn’t John Nazarian visit him at one time? I bet Wood had no problem at all getting him to spill all during his depo. Probably proved the ‘malice’ all on his own.

By: Roxanne

Roxanne — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:09:16 +0000

LOL
HKS is still able to use her depo from NY in Florida? I bet that really pissed her off. ROTF

Off to read the documents.

By: JMA

JMA — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:16:13 +0000

Seriously, did Wilma really think by only agreeing to be depo’d in New York that she would be off the hook in the O’Quinn case? I absolutely love the fact that she has to turn over everything she has been doing since this saga has begun. I cannot wait to see which blogger names she gives.