It’s the Money Stupid???
Posted by Rose in All Things Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith's Will, Art Harris, Celebrity Trials, Daniel Smith, Daniel Smith's Inquest, Dannielynn, Debunking the myths on ALL cases related to Anna Nicole, Don Clark, Don Clark ex-FBI, High Proflie Trials, Howard K Stern, Howard and Anna, John O'Quinn, Larry Birkhead, Lin Wood, Rita Cosby, The John O'Quinn Law Firm, Virgie Arthur
Yes I just plagiarized Clinton’s “It’s the Economy Stupid”, but after watching the debate last night it just seemed like a good take off on a title for this article.
In filings on September 25, did the John O’Quinn legal team blindside the court and Howard K Stern’s legal team? Originally, O’Quinn’s lawyers asked for an extension of time to turn over the financial paperwork due to Hurricane Ike. In that, “Motion to Extend Time”, O’Quinn’s legal team never mentioned a “Motion for Protection” looming in the future in place of the documents that they had pled successfully the week before to extend the time by a few days.
Then we have the assault on both Howard K. Stern and Lin Wood and the ability for ANY Court to trust either of them with “confidential information”. The Motion goes on to request that the Powell Goldstein law firm NOT share any of that information with their client Stern. The Motion for Protective Order as well is asking that O’Quinn and his law firm not having to provide the financial information until 30 days prior to trial; because the existing Agreed Confidentiality Order is not strong enough to make sure, O’Quinn’s worth is not released to the media.
In other words the lawyers can see them, an expert can see them but the client can’t because both Stern and Wood have ALLEGEDLY lied in the past and had proven to Court’s they both had been dishonest and had “leaked” papers. HUH??? The legal team is making this allegation for John O’Quinn who barely escaped from the clutches of the Texas A. G. in 2002 after years of skating on the edge of legal ethics. Including being fined, tried, sued, etc. and being probably the most instrumental reason Texas passed sweeping tort reform in Civil Suits against the type of companies O’Quinn became a billionaire suing.
My prediction is that we will see Lin Wood, the head of Stern’s legal team, become deadly serious this coming week. This is no longer just a fascinating case of watching two Titans fight in my opinion this is going to become very personal for Wood. I expect a methodical but potential deadly response to be filed in the Florida Court this coming week.
On Friday, with Wood presumably in New York for the pre-trial conference on the Howard K. Stern vs. Rita Cosby and Hachette books, another lawyer on Stern’s legal team filed a letter with the court. That letter forced Robert Klein to admit to the court that papers had not been turned over that had been previously reported to the court as having been turned over to Stern’s lawyers. Klein’s letter was in regards to the fact that O’Quinn’s legal team, when they stated in the September 15 Ex Parte Hearing that those papers had been handed over, now they are admitting that it was not quiet true. Wood wrote a letter to the court requesting those be addressed on September 12, now the legal team of O’Quinn had to admit that they were not factual in their representation on September 15 to the court but they had now handed over those “missing documents” as of September 24.
Then there is the Dawna Kaufman emails approximately eight of them to and from Don Clark and Wilma Vicedomine of which O’Quinn’s legal team told the court on July 21 they had goofed and those needed to be handed over because they had wrongfully claimed “work product” on them and had caught their own mistake. However, now O’Quinn’s legal team is asking that those same emails be looked at “in camera”. I have to wonder what is in those emails that they would fight handing them over since they are only in relations to the tabloid media that O’Quinn himself said if you believe the tabloid media then “you be stupid” cause no reasonable person would ever believe tabloid articles and/or shows.
The most stunning filing though was on September 25, the Affidavit of Rusty Hardin, Jr. Many have asked over the last 18+ months was this really all along about the Marshall money and nothing else? Many of us could never connect the Marshall attorney, Hardin, to John O’Quinn and now O’Quinn appears to have connected those dots together for all of us. You have to wonder why show that part of their hand at this point? Which led to the title of this article, “It’s the Money Stupid????”
The Affidavit of Hardin included what appears to be one page of a partial transcript of a hearing in Texas that was not authenticated or even dated. I notice that Hardin also left off listing the date of that time period in his Affidavit. So help me out here folks, for someone that never followed the saga of Anna Nicole Smith’s life, when did that hearing take place in Houston?
Do you think this connects the dots and is it about the Marshall money and not about Virgie Arthur? It left me pondering a lot about that.
This next week I expect Wood to come out with cold steel resolve in his Response to this latest alleged roadblock to gain production of documents. We also have the little fact that under the Civil Rules this Motion for Protective Order should have been filed within 14 days of service, this was instead filed on the date the Court had extended the discovery to be due because of Hurricane Ike. I did note that in the Court’s Order for Expedited Briefs Response and Replies, Stern was given to “no later than Friday, October 3, 2008”; O’Quinn was then given “no later than Tuesday, October 7, 2008, at 5:00 p.m.” to Reply to Stern if they choose to file a Reply. Could the Court be giving us a hint that the Court does not want any more filings after the court closes on the dates those filings are due?
I keep seeing that First Protective Order and Memorandum of Law by the New York Court filed over and over again in other court proceedings to slam L Lin Wood, his honesty, including that he leaks like a ship going down. However, I know of two sites other than Art Harris who had those papers in the morning well before the telephone hearing in Houston in connection to Wilma Vicedomine’s Motion to Quash and well before Wood stated he sent them to Harris after 5 P. M. The first time I read that Memorandum by the Court in New York, I did not know whether these other web site owners should take that as an insult or a compliment that they hunt through PACER and have records almost as soon as they hit the press. The judge specifically stated that because of the 275 pages filed it was very unlikely that any site could have had those and had them up without Wood’s help. Neither of the sites, I know about having the papers by 11 A. M. had ANY help from Wood and both sites “allegedly” are very heavily visited. Did Judge Chin give those sites high grades for finding the papers early in the morning of that day, or did he not realize how fast those watching this case find those little tidbits? Something I have been pondering since the Memorandum was first released. Added to that another site owner seems to continue to brag that the lawyers sit on that site almost all day long. I would think if that is true then the lawyers from all sides follow who has what and when, I would if I were them to get a feel for the public consumption about all things still related to any lawsuit about Anna Nicole Smith.
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I will also have an article up about the Howard K. Stern vs. Rita Cosby and Hachette Books and I am going to go out on a limb in that article and make some predictions as to what I think will happen before the trial date in the New York Southern District Federal Court.
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Great article, Rose. I can hardly wait for the stalling to stop, and the action to start.
ROSE–I DO LOVE THE TITLE————This in my opinion has been about Virgie and the Marshall money,OQ comes in second,You can bet everyone in his firm was working on the expectation of Virgie getting partical or even total custody of Dannielynn.I feel from the day Anna married Marshall, GREEDY MA, was thinking way ahead.I get so upset when I hear over and over again,Virgie so called prediction,about Anna,MY OPINION Virgie was sending her daughter over the edge for a long time. Virgie planned on a windfall for her retirement,Also that is why I mentioned IRS,i think both OQ and Virgie have not been forth comming with what money they received,from tabloids,and TV SHOWS.Virgie anger toward Howard has nothing whatsoever do do with drugs or her daughter,it has now and always has been about the Marshall money.Virgie trashed her daughter every change she had.
Was thinking and laughing..can u imagine being in front of a jury…explaining to the jury john oquinns past??? All the dirty rotten stuff… Wouldnt take a jury much to realize what some will do for 1/2 billion
Could u explain this whole 14 day thing again…was this in regards to the kaufman emails? Or the order against financials? Does this mean they will b public or just that cant ask for protection from wood or stern? I cant imagine this judge agreeing w the kaufman emails..who is that by the way
sorry cant read docs until monday… I never realized that wood was unable to defend himself in new york…so a public filing from 8 am to 5pm with anyone having access was solely blamed on lin wood…although we know truth… Wonder why he didnt fight it? I cant c the judge allowing this back n forth stuff w oquinn…hasnt the deadline for court involvement passed?
It does seem that if Wood’s sat on her site all day long as she says that Wood would have known that she had the papers up and said something about her having the papers up way before he ever gave them Art Harris AFTER 5pm that day.
I think they will twist and turn at every opportunity in this case.They seem to like to fight on different fronts here and have never fought fair.
Expect them to try every trick they can.
The answer I think is follow the money trail and it will connect the Marshall’s to this. It makes more sense than it being about Virgie. The plan could have been for Virgie to control Anna’s estate then to make her a settlement if she dropped the case against the Marshalls. It makes more sense than worrying about which cousin and step brother she married.
Sorry a bit cynical this morning.
IIRC didn’t O’Quinn say that part of the reason he needed an extension from the court in providing his financial information was that his accountant couldn’t get into the office because of Hurricane Ike? It does seem clear that he was misleading the court since he didn’t file that info but submitted a motion instead. So was O’Quinn lying to the judge about his need for the extension?
Rose, ITA, very, very, very personal and for so many reasons one in which they care
about Howard, a lot. Like I said in the past Wood takes his clients to his heart, clear
to me the man cares. Not only have they insulted Howard, which I think he will
come out swinging on his behalf. OQ has also insulted Wood. My opinion is
he will be more protective of Howard.
How dare any of them say you can’t trust Wood WTF are they talking about, this
is a very well respected attorney here in Atlanta and thru out the country.
And OQ of all ppl to make such claims.
So this is how they have introduced Rusty into the case? Using him to say Stern stole
papers?
Was OQ using “hyperbole” when he went on TV and told the country in is most sincere voice that
the only reason he was involved with this case was because he cared so much about Anna’s mom…
And does VA realize now they she will never see any money, they used her. because in my mind
OQ was helping Marshall all along. IMO he never had any intention of helping VA, wonder how VA
feels now? You have to wonder what line of BS he feeds those women and you gotta wonder when
are they going to realize what he is doing? I suppose things will be just fine as long as he gives them
some chump change. Man talk about thick.
Question, does this open the door for Wood to bring in OQ past? And help
show the courts his patterns of behavior and make OQ stop with all this nonsense and
either settle or go to trial?
My opinion, I think the judge is going to throw the book at Quinn. Quinn just showed himself as the liar he is to the courts. Time to step on his DI*k. Sorry for the last comment, but it’s the way I feel.
Daisy,
From what I’ve read O’Quinn wins suits not on merit, but his ability to wear down the opposition and the courts with his never ending pleadings, motions and appeals and other stall tactics. It seems no different in this case. Essentially O’Q has the deep pockets to be able to sap the resources of those opposing him until they can no longer continue fighting.
I do realize that the judge is trying to prevent appeals and reversals of decisions, but I do think it’s going to be up to the judge how much this tactic by the O’Quinn camp is going to be allowed and start handing out sanctions and putting some boundaries on O’Quinn.
I cannot believe that O’Quinn and team has made allegations of Mr. Wood’s character and professionalism!
Rose is right about that partial transcript. I bet the Judge disallows that avadavit of Hardin and transcript in the case.
What year was that allegation of Stern? 1992? Just Ridiculous!
How dare that TX team make allegations of dishonesty! Just look at their legal record in the past 5 years!
I would bet that Lin Wood had NOTHING to do with getting that partial depo out from Rita!
I honestly do believe that the Judge will see through these dishonest legal manuevers of O’Quinn and his team!
IF ANYONE IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED, IT IS O’QUINN! What a piece of work… It makes me sick to my stomach!
i was thinking about vigies interviews saying she didnt want custody or marshall money.. First she liedas there is pending custody in bahamas and now 2 lawsuits wanting money and specifically failure to obtain custody battle due to bullshit defamation.. If dates r correct in my mind, larry already had custody and makes ALL the decisions re: dannielynn over 2 weeks before these dates of falsevdefamation. The SCOTUS woulnt have recognized virgie regardless of defamationm there is no custody challenge in the US which blows that argument as well. She lied about custody and money and HKS has nothing to do with it except for the link to marshall money. Larry makes the decisions
also…this pic is outside of bahamas, does anyone know date ? Was this one of the interviews quinn is being sued for? Why is virgie so happy? The limelight? Looks like her at ritas book party did. Remember when she spoke down on dannielynns eye condition? Blaming it on drugs? And she is going to say she had a reputation. Very sad
ALSO and this is a BIGGIE..tmz requested proof of virgie arthurs damage to herself… I would think going on cruises, hanging out on tmz boards, jetstting book parties. How does she think she will prove this? Also she wont even be able to prove a custody battle. Didnt she start that inbahamas day after ANS passed and again nothing in usa. Going to watch chris rocks comedy tour. Need to laugh
Ok I know this has been discussed before but this is what I still don’t understand at all is how can Virgie sue for defamation saying the reason for suing is it cost her not being able to get custody of Dannilynn, When in fact she never tried for custody in the states. So if she never tried what did she lose? The more I think about it doesn’t Virgie have to prove what she lost if this goes to court? That just doesn’t make any sense to me, If she tried to get custody and lost not to mention she no doubt would have lost in Cal. for probably so many many reasons to state now but, most important if I am correct Cal. is not real big on Grandparents rights if the child is in a loving, stable home with one of her biological parents. I know this sounds stupid but wouldn’t it be like I sued someone because they said things about me that I did not like and the reason I am suing is because I did not get a job I wanted, but yet I never even applied for the job anyway. ok that was dumb but I just can’t see the logic there. I totally believe the reason for Virgie vs. the world is revenge. I think most of us thought from the beginning that all of this with O’Q was only about the Marshall money. I am so looking forward to L. Wood’s response next week. ya know I do not support Howard because of my love of the law, I support him because I saw a man being vilified in the media and saw how wrong all that trial by TV is. But I must say that I am learning and have learned so much from all of this. Thank you Ken and Rose for this great site that you share with all of us! Oh it would be so awesome to be in the court room and see L. Wood at work ( A true professional), A man that truly cares and believes in his clients. I am so impressed with Howard through this all also, Oh one last thing, lol, I am not sure if it was the E True Hollywood story about Anna or what I saw and they were talking to Rusty about Anna and He said that people on the street say” Screw you Rusty” because of what Anna said to him on the stand when he was asking her if she was taking acting lessons. I think it was about acting lessons anyway. I just hope that is what the Judge says to O’Q and Rusty’s affidavit. ok to all of O’Q tactics for that matter.
Thank you Rose for another great article.
Beth or Ann, let me ask you this, do you think this is a way to get Rusty involved with this case?
Is OQ now showing us his hand and going to continue getting Rusty more and more involved?
Or just another ridiculous move on OQ side?
I mean it just seems so petty to bring this up and I’m not saying Howard didn’t know they were
confidential but maybe he didn’t. After all he was a very young attorney.
And big deal attorneys get reprimanded all the time.
I, like most everyone have always thought it would lead back to the Marshall money. We were never able to find the thread that connected O’Quinn and Hardin and now Mr. O’Quinn has done that for us. I am waiting anxiously to see Lin Woods answer to this and I expect it to have a big ole FU attached to the end of it.
Beth you have mail. I don’t want you to miss it. I know a lot of people just delete things they don’t know what it is. I sent it from the RoseSpeaks email which is on a new server so it’s safe from prying eyes.
Got it Roxanne, thanks.
I honestly believe that the affidavit of Rusty had nothing to do with the Marshall case at this time.
*It was a ‘tool’ to persuade the Judge to get the Motion of Protection granted.
O’Quinn does NOT want to show his assets for a multitude of reasons I would assume.
ie: If it was public knowledge; then others like the litigants in the breast implant class action suit would get liens and attach his properties or assets to satisfy their judgments from the Court.
*This affidavit of Rusty and a partial transcript of something that happened over 15 years ago is ONLY to try and discredit Stern and Wood so they will not have access to his finances.
(O’Q is using Rusty to discredit HKS & the NY depo leak to make Lin seem untrustworthy)
In a defamation case that the Court has allowed to get this far in the proceedings… My guess is that O’Quinn will HAVE to show his assets to at least the Judge. The reason being that he will be found guilty of malicious defamation and usually a percentage of the assets is awarded.
It is not like it used to be in civil suits, unless it is a huge corporation like PG&E.
Loved the movie Erin Brockovich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich
I have talked about this movie before… It is a true story that happened a few years back it was a huge amount awarded in the class action suit against PG&E. It is the movie that Julia Roberts won an oscar for…
The Judge might even grant the motion for protection due to this being a high profile case and other items are already sealed in this case.
I am sure there would be case law to back up the facts if there had been any impropriety in prior dealings w/ HKS or his counsel… NOT that I agree, it is just the fact that the incident in TX did happen, and the partial depo of Rita did show up on the net.
I in NO WAY think that HKS or Lin Wood did anything improper, I am just trying to say that it is documented and the Judge could possibly take that into consideration.
I have a feeling there were two reasons for TX to try and get HKS in a suit in TX.
1.) So they could ask for Howard’s financial information.
2.) Leverage (reprisal for HKS suing O’Q) in this FL suit… where if O’Q loses he will drop the TX suit not to pay as much. [I know the TX suit was brought by VA & not O’Q but she is his puppet on a string] IMO
>I predict that after the deposition of Clark & Vice that the NY case will settle.
>The FL case will go further in litigation than NY but will settle in the end. I am about 60% sure there will be no trial in the FL case.
>TX is a loose cannon (the case) it is the only case that is brought by this bunch of wild cards…
I do think TMZ with the help of CBS will stop them in their tracks… might take a bit of time though.
In my opinion,Rusty Hardin has been behind the scenes,right along,only now OQ wants to smear Howard again,and it is a delay move on OQ part.Thus showing the court,he meant everyone word of his slander,that fool is talking out of both sides of his fifthy mouth,OQ continue actions shows he is out to destroy Howard,What a disgrace as a officer of the court,OQ is.Howard is a young lawyer,just starting out in his career,the court need only to look at the lawsuits against OQ FOR UNETHICAL PRACTICE,and hold OQ up as a example,of why lawyers have a bad reputation,The more OQ trys to smear Howard,the more the judge should figure out,OQ meant every word of his slander toward Howard.
Beverly good points. It is pretty plain that O’Quinn is not sorry he said anything just that he got caught.
Also if they had to use a declaration from something 15 years ago then they haven’t got much. It is more time wasting and spin.
Marshall money the target.
HEATH———That was a stupid move on OQ,s part.but,it goes to the heart of this case.Howard V OQ,for slander,that fool just proved to the court,Howards case.Beth—-I cannot bring myself to believe Virgie is a puppet.She has so much evil and greed in her,OQ and virgie ARE EQUAL PARTNERS.You cannot do what Virgie did to Anna,all those years,and now,enjoying life.on the money gotten from her dead daughter and grandson,.In fact Virgie,is the only one I know of that has enjoyed her daughter death,SHE HAD A COMMING OUT PARTY/
Yes Beverly I agree about the puppet… I should have stated it better.
In my mind (no matter which attorney is representing VA from that law firm) they can stop being her legal counsel at anytime.
She is not paying them so she pretty much is a follower to their wishes. JMO
I would bet money (LOL if I had any!) that it was the lawyer’s idea to start the ridiculous defamation suit of VA! I think this because no matter how evil and greedy she seems to be, I do not think she would have had the balls to file any type of defamation suit against anyone. As, she made herself a public figure and she was her own worst enemy due to her actions! She defamed herself over and over again. She was the one on the witness stand in FL saying she didn’t get any money… then she goes on Greta’s show and admits to selling pictures of her deceased grandson to a tabloid magazine. That is not even counting the pics and video at the cemetary…
What I am hoping and praying for is that VA gets implicated in the conspiracy to FRAME LARRY while trying to defame and harm Howard’s reputation.
You remember when she said in an interview: I said to Larry, ‘what is it son? do they have something on you? a video or something?’
Well, those are not the exact words but it is in a transcript somewhere as she said it on TV.
*Wouldn’t it be something after the depositions of Clark and Wilma that it is uncovered that they are the ones that started this defamation conspiracy and VA actually played a part? I know TX main goal was to get HKS out of the way, but they did believe that Larry was the bio-dad… and I honestly believe they wanted to drag his name in the mudd too! As, she was ‘desperate’ to get a joint guardianship of some kind. O’Q said it over and over on TV what she wanted!
Oh, that’s right! O’Q even called Larry just a ’sperm donor’ didn’t he?
**Little did TX know that VA’s past was public knowledge and ended up to be worse than Howard and Larry combined! (Thank God!)
EVIL and GREEDY very good words to describe these people in my opinion.
BETH—-I do not believe for one second,that the OQ team was doing all this for nothing(pro-Bono).I have always thought OQ,s payment was going to come when Virigie got Dannielynn,The PRO-BONO was for the puplic to believe, OQ has lost any change of getting partical or complete custody of Dannielynn,I cannot believe OQ AND THE REST OF THE GREEDY BUNCH,would do all that work out of kindness,I think OQ,s pride,took a hit,After all he has lost every round for Virgie,How hard they all worked before the Inquest,to disgrace Howard any change they got.Like I said before Anna could have went to a sperm bank,she did not,You know,there is not one thing Virgie has touched ,she has not soiled,By the time this is over,Virgie has lost her reputation,Rita has lost her (award winning journalist title)and printed (cheap shot book)Don Cark has been made out to be a liar,on Geraldo show,and disgraced his FBI backround,Wilma was just a plain disgrace,McCabe,I cannot get passed,what he was accused of,Speers who was a bodyguard,made up lies on a client,hope he never gets any other job as a bodyguard,POOR CLIENTS,Anna and Daniel must be laughing,
How can we find out what articles this person named Dawn has written at the Globe and/or the National Enquirer? Could they possible be the gay angle that appeared in the rags mags? Inquiring minds wants to know.
liann…that is the exact analogy! Soooooo dumb. Diamondgirl lolol. I would think a search might work i dont have that capabilities right now. I cant imagine the judge agreeing to not turning those over as i thought the court said no more getting involved.
im dying to know what trial date the NY case picked. I pray these are all over by NEW YEAR. Although i cant c them going to trial. Wish i knew where the ET and HKS is stalled at.
Rose, you have out done yourself on this article!!! And the title is sooooooooo right as we have all believed that from the beginning!
Who the heck does O’Quinn think he is?? Isn’t he the one who had Howard investigated using the FBI and every dirty PI he could to find out things about Howard and fed it to the media??? And now he can’t let Howard know the goods on him. What a piece of work!!! O’Quinn bringing Rusty Hardin in is so dirty. WE can now see all the lies that have been concocted and told. Like he was representing Virgie because of her FBI agent son, HUH!! If you read the O’Quinn depo of last August you can see at the end his old law firm partner was involved in this long before O’Quinn showed up in Florida Court. (See remarks to Lin Wood about Pirtle’s involvement).
I get both your points Bev and Beth
Thanks for the input
interesting he would show Rusty being involved though a statement.
DiamondGirl #25
How about this for starters:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Question-of-Murder/Cyril-H-Wecht/e/9781591026617
Just wondering … whether Clark/Wilma maybe attempted to get Dawna Kaufman to write ‘the book’ and when she turned it down they went to Cosby instead.
31. Isn’t that interesting. But wasn’t it in the papers that the emails between Clark, Wilma and this Dawna were not suppose to be classied “work related” and therefore not subject to release? So does this imply that Dawna wrote for the rag mags also? And when did she get involved? This whole mess gets tangled more and more doesn’t it?
When I googled I also found out that she wrote that ‘interview’ in the NE with Nathan Collins.
DiamondGirl
Donna Kaufman writes for the National Enquirer and the Globe and it’s going to be interesting to see if Wilma feed her information that then appeared in an article for one of those mags. IE “Birkhead being gay.”
Beth #23 GREAT POST….I believe the same……
Beth 23
As per that victim of defamation(virgie), Larry told her “I am queer.” I don’t believe that he would say that to someone he hardly knew. Did not happen.
Just about everything that has happened since Anna died can be traced back to that texas team of shysters. Funny how a lot of it ties back into just one person, and that person isn’t Howard.
Most of us have always believed it was about the Marshall money and now O’Quinn has given us the proof by submitting Rusty Hardin’s affidavit to the court. I do not see the judge accepting it. Virgie cannot get her hands on the Marshall money unless she can somehow get custody of Dannielynn and as far as we know there have not been any more attempts to do so. Even if Virgie were to try and get custody she would have to prove Larry unfit not to mention fight his entire family because Virgie is not Dannielynn’s only living relative/grandparent.
I agree JMA, Virgie is a money hungry ((bleep)).
She is NOT the greiving mother and grandmother like those who try
to say she is.
Anna wasn’t stupid, weak, but not stupid. Stern didn’t force her to say
anything about Virgie that the public didn’t alrady know. Even if Anna
never did the “mommy dearest” video, my “opinions” about Virgie and her family
would still be the same.
Rose to answer your questions:
I love this statement, “I have to wonder what is in those emails that they would fight handing them over since they are only in relations to the tabloid media that O’Quinn himself said if you believe the tabloid media then “you be stupid” cause no reasonable person would ever believe tabloid articles and/or shows.” I thought that was priceless. Again you caught him speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Yes I wonder what’s in the emails too.
On the Rusty Hardin Affidavit and the Judge Chin First Protective Order and Memorandum of Law, I believe as you do they are being used to humiliate Howard and Lin Wood in the Florida court. Lin Wood is an honorable man and has not brought any of the dirt and filth on O’Quinn into this yet. But I sure hope he does now.
O’Quinn is so afraid that his financial information will get out in the media because all those clients he cheated out of their money will be after him big time, LOL. And they should after what he has done to them. And to date he has NOT paid them back, that was still in the appeals court last I heard.
Do I think this connects the dots and is it about the Marshall money and not about Virgie Arthur? You bet I do. I think the dots were connected before this all started with Virgie. It has been noted that O’Quinn, Hardin and Marshall’s wife have been seen together and met together early on. And to think he was doing this for a grieving grandma is a joke, it’s always been about the money with O’Quinn.
I read an article on a speech that O’Quinn gave on a link from a previous article and O’Quinn was again introduced as one of the country’s top ten litigators. He was going after the small brokerages on Wall Street for fraud. I really got a laugh out of that after what happen with him about four or five years ago with Wall Street.
http://ntimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=2870&print_page=true&include_comments=true
John M. O’Quinn is a real piece of work!!!
spitfiregrl I agree Anna was not stupid. Anna did whatever Anna wanted and no one had control over her. For those who continue to say Howard was controlling what Anna said in that ET interview is outrageous. I watched that interview several times and not once did I see Howard lean in and whisper anything to Anna. The claim that Anna was high during the interview is also BS. It was clear to see that Anna was outraged by Virgie’s accusation towards her and Howard concerning Daniel’s death.
This paragraph here of course it just my opinion. I feel Virgie is the one who put the notion out to the public that, that was not Anna during the ET interview but a shell of her. She said that to hide the fact that due to her actions and accusations she [VA] was the reason Anna did that interview with ET.
sunflower I agree if O’Quinn wants to play dirty by trying to use one little incident on Lin Wood’s part in order to keep is financial records out, than by all means Lin needs to bring in O’Quinn’s record of riping off former clients. Matter of fact since O’Quinn used Rusty Hardin to try and get a point across to the courts how about Lin Wood get an affidavit from Joe Jamail showing just how untrustworthy O’Quinn is. I mean isn’t Jamail responsible for bringing O’Quinn down for ripping off clients.
#41 JMA
Great idea, LOL.
As OQ has losed ,trying to get Howard convicted, of anything,and Virgie has a snowball change in hell,of getting Dannielynn.OQ is now going for, Howard is not trustworthy,Thus trying to say he should not have any anything to do with Dannielynn Estate,That is my opinion where they are headed.Virgie and OQ are real dirtbags,and as long as she is living,she will try for the Marshall money and dannielynn estate.Myself I think Lin Wood is up to the task.
I honstelly dont believe that Vergie and OQ have a chance in hell in winning that “case” agaisnt Howard in Texas.
so the only thing that O’Quinn has gotten out of representing Vergie is a lawsuit , a lot of wasted money and a lot of bad PR! HA!
I have to wonder if Judge Chin is getting really pissed that his order is being used to try to side step the rules of other courts?
Sunflower, The 2 sites that had the info. up got it from Pacer that morning when it came out. It was here and at QV’s.
TZ [44] I agree with your entire comment.
And by the way Rusty Hardin did not do a good job,representing,his high profile Baseball player,against steroid use, he also looked more at the camera than paying attention to his client.The news commentors,were making fun of him.so if I was him I would shut my mouth.I
Bev, that reminded me of when Debra Opri was in Fl. when she looked into the camera
instead of at Stern when she was questioning him.
I also agree he did a terrible job representing the baseball player.
Once again can’t seem to win using their mind. It appears the only way
they know how to play is using fear, lies, spin…tactics
As Anna would say “Screw you Rusty!” I seriously don’t think the judge is going to accept his affidavit as to having anything to do with Stern vs. O’Quinn.
#46 Thanks Roxanne,
Free Republic had it up too.
#48 Beverly, I saw that interview too and you are so right!
#50 JMA, LOL
Howard was a young and unexperienced attorney at the time and just starting out.
I think Hardin and O’Quinn are about the same as attorneys go. In the same ballpark so to speak, LOL ;)
Exactly sunflower but O’Quinn was not an inexperienced Attorney when he stole money from his clients. I mean its bad enough that O’Quinn got richer by doing that but he stole from women who counted on him to get them compensation for what they endured from the implants. That right there sickens me to no end.
#51
Sunflower, I didn’t know Free Republic had it up early that day also. Interesting. So what do you all think about Team Texas pointing to and making out to the judge that Art Harris was the only site to have that information up that day? In fact, at least 3 other sites had it up BEFORE Art Harris.
Roxanne, we know that info was on other sites and they know it as well. Is this not the same info O’Quinn is trying to use to prove that Lin Wood cannot be trusted with confidential information.
Has Art Harris said where he got the info?
#53 Roxanne,
What do I think about Team Texas pointing to and making out to the judge that Art Harris was the only site to have that information up that day? Bunch of Buffoons crossed my mind. Yes, wonder where and how Art got that up so fast, LOL. Yes O’Quinn was trying to make a point he knows nothing about.
Is O’Quinn claiming just because Art Harris had this info on his site that he had of gotten it from Lin Wood? If this is the case where is O’Quinn’s proof and where did the other sites get the info from due to they had it up before Art Harris did.
This is nothing more than a smoke screen courtesy of O’Quinn in order to keep his assets/worth hidden.
JMA, yes that is what they are saying. It was posted on Pacer that morning and 3 sites pulled it from pacer and put it up BEFORE Art Harris had it up. Art didn’t have it up until after 5pm that day but it was up here that morning before noon.
It’s all about an expert of Cosby’s deposition that was filed in a response by Woods. I’m sure Woods didn’t even think about it being in there and that it would come out and be put up on sites. It believe it was an innocent mistake on Woods part to not have that page out of over 200 pages “sealed” when it was put on Pacer.
Roxanne who is responsible for putting it on pacer, I am asking because I do not check pacer myself.
Roxanne, I think you already answered my question #59. So the Attorney’s are the ones who put it on Pacer?
Ford Shelley filed Answer to Anna Nicole Smith’s Estate Suit for wrongful taken of her property after her death.
September 29, 2008 Stancil “Ford” Shelley Answer to the Anna Nicole Smith’s Estate lawsuit for wrongfully taken of personal property after her death from Horizons.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=952
September 29, 2008 Stancil “Ford” Shelley’s Responses to Rule 26 Interrogatories to Anna Nicole Smith’s Estate suit for wrongful taking of personal property following her death.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=953
September 22, 2008 Susan Brown’s Motion to be admitted in South Carolina Pro Hac Vice fir G. Ben Thompson and Stancil Ford Shelley.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=951
I don’t know if the attorneys actually put it on pacer or if it’s the court clerk it is filed with. Not sure. I don’t have a pacer account.
Roxanne me either that is why I was wondering who puts it on Pacer. If it is the court clerk who does it than it is there for those who have a Pacer account.
Another article Sunflower
No sunflower
I am talking about the answer filed by Lin Wood that has about 3 pages of Cosby’s deposition.
The legal team for Stern files New Papers
Howard K. Stern’s lawyers filed for an extension of time to file a Response to the Motion for Summary Judgment due to the Court by John M. O’Quinn on October 3 in the Southern District Court of Florida in the Stern vs. O’Quinn and the O’Quinn lawfirm.
What is interesting to me is that we now know the deposition date of Don Clark and Wilma Vicedomine in the Howard K. Stern vs. Rita Cosby and Hachette Books dates.
We also get to see that even top lawyers make typos on Motions, as in Lin Wood put September in his Motion for More Time instead of October thus confusing a lot of people reading these papers.
September 29, 2008 Howard K. Stern is stating he needs to take the deposition of O’Quinn, Clark and Vicedomine before he answer the Motion for Summary Judgment that is due by O’Quinn this Friday, October 3.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=954
September 29, 2008 Howard K. Stern’s Exhibit A showing he noticed deposition for O’Quinn, Clark and Vicedomine 30 days before the discovery cut off date of September 19, 2008 for any Motions to Compel if the witnesses fail to show to be deposed.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=955
September 29, 2008 Howard K. Stern’s Exhibit B showing he noticed deposition for O’Quinn, Clark and Vicedomine pointing that Exhibit A shows that this was done 30 days before the discovery cut off date of September 19, 2008 for any Motions to Compel if the witnesses fail to show to be deposed.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=956
September 29, 2008 Howard K. Stern’s Exhibit C letter from Robert Klein dated September 29 that they needed to redo the depositions AGAIN because of a schedule conflict for both John O’Quinn and Robert Klein but allowing the depositions in regards to Stern vs. Rita Cosby and Hachette Books will be done on time.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=957
September 29, 2008 Howard K. Stern’s Exhibit D letter from Lin Wood back to Robert Klein dated September 29. The letter is stating that the two sides had agreed to ask the court for Howard K. Stern to have more time to Respond to the Motion for Summary Judgment that is due from O’Quinn by October 3, because of the time lapse of no depositions being taken on time.
http://www.rosespeaks.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=958
Thanks for providing the legal docs for us to read Rose. It’s great to be able to keep up with these cases.