John O’Quinn, You left me “Crying” as Roy Orbinson once wrote and now 900 more clients of John O’Quinn’s join the 3,000 clients still “Crying” and waiting.
Posted by Rose in All Things Anna Nicole Smith, Anna Nicole Smith's Will, John O'Quinn, Neil McCabeThis article is done because Raven found the papers and Susieq called and begged to have it explain. Thank you both ladies for what you brought to this article
“The case is not without interest for the professional responsibility of lawyers inter se”, the ruling of the 9th Circuit Court’s decision of March 6, 2008 begins.
In 1991, approximately NINE hundred claimants in the Phoenix area joined a class action suit against Motorola for damages in excess of $100 MILLION.
In 1993, John O’Quinn took over the representation of MOST of the claimants. In contracts signed with EACH of the approximately 900 petitioners, John O’Quinn insisted on a “contingent fee of 40% of the total sums or fair market value of property collected or received from trial or settlement of Client’s claims.”
Each client would receive 60%; WOW John O’Quinn is one of the good guys, although he “ponders” why Howard K. Stern and his firm would get 6% of money recovered for over 10 years of litigation in the Anna Nicole Smith vs. Marshall Estate. Does he think Howard K. Stern, Ron Rale and the firm worked for way too little money? If so why, the constant drum beat that Howard K. Stern is only ABOUT the money?
But wait there is more, that 60% that John O’Quinn’s clients were promised in signed contracts did not include the costs of expenses of litigation that would come out of the 900 clients 60%, but still sounds fair right? Each client agreed that “ALL COSTS AND EXPENSES OF LITIGATION HAVE PAID OR INCURRRED” would be paid out of the clients 60% recovery. Still a good deal, right? I mean, how much could the cost equate out to each client with that large of a sum? The clients even knew up front in detail what the “costs would entail and it would be LIMITED to depositions, expert witness and consultant fees, meals, lodging, storage, rentals, equipment, and other expenses reasonably necessary to the prosecution of the claims other than the salaries and normal office overhead of the Attorneys”.
On April 16, 1993, John O’Quinn engaged another law firm to “help” with the litigation and contracted with them for a reduced fee for services. However, there was a promise that at the conclusion of the trial or a settlement to up the payment to secure that the other law firm got a fair shake on its fees. The math gets a tad confusing but you can each read it with calculator in hand by downloading the 9th Court Decision in our Misc. section of downloads open to ALL visitors not just our members.
John O’Quinn very fairly paid the other firm, Brown & Bain a total of $2,920,975.17 for 26,000 hours of work.
Just a tad short of five years later, June 1998, John O’Quinn and Brown & Bain parted ways, with no objections from John O’Quinn or any of the almost 900 plaintiffs. Nice to part friends, but wait, two of the former partners of Brown & Bain had formed a new law firm of Allen & Price and had put a bid and secured the contract with John O’Quinn for a much more reduced rate than the original Brown & Bain had agreed to be paid for their work, as early as March 1996. So we overlapped right, no problem among “friends/lawyers”?
To be on the safe side for his clients, John O’Quinn opened an office in Phoenix devoted wholly to the needs of this suit and his 900 clients and “internal settlement sheet” states that salaries in Phoenix was $4,583,523.41 and office expenses were $2,954,812.64.
In January 2002, John O’Quinn reached an out of court settlement with Motorola for $26,301,921.39, a tad shy of the $100 million sued for, but that is what out of court settlements are about is keeping the costs down so clients get the best deal without the trauma of a trial in usual circumstances.
Out of this $26+ million settlement, John O’Quinn charged his clients $13,727,597.66 for expenses. It was a tad over half of the settlement but let’s face it, it was almost 9 years worth of work in two states and involved three law firms for just the plaintiffs.
$12,574,323.73 left out of the settlement for John O’Quinn to take his 40%. However, John O’Quinn charged his clients roughly 40% contingent fee for $10,106.988.61 from the original settlement of the $26+ million, leaving his 900 clients to divide up $2,467,335.12 or that would be about $2,741.00 a piece, however some how it ended up about $2,100 that each client received. By the way, here nothing to do with this court decision but what is with all of the added cents in each of these figures, why not just round it off to the nearest dollar. What is that, 12 cents or 61 cents about? As Ken pointed out to me, those 12 or 61 cents multiplied by number of clients in a class action suit can become significant.
The funny thing is that Brown and Bain wanted to be paid the remainder of their fee owed by John O’Quinn for the services they performed during the lawsuit. Protecting his clients John O’Quinn refused.
Thus Brown and Bain sued John O’Quinn who countersued Brown and Bain, moved it from state court to federal court and when John O’Quinn lost appealed to the 9th court in San Francisco, the court that just also has the Anna Nicole Smith vs. Marshall Estate law suits. Those three judges must cringe when they see any of these names on the cases being heard by them.
The 9th Circuit Appellant court decided to use the statutes that most favored John O’Quinn, stating; “We review de novo, viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to O’Quinn” very fair, right? John O’Quinn went so far as to absorb some of the billable expenses to his clients himself in order “to have a little more money” for his clients. John O’Quinn had absorbed the expenses in order to save something to give the clients, and even with this generosity on John O’Quinn’s part, the individual client waiting for nine long years “averaged only $2,100 a piece”.
The 9th Circuit notes it was prudent of John O’Quinn to give his clients something because they might not have agreed to ANY settlement if they had gotten NOTHING.
The court goes on to say that, John O’Quinn’s “alleged loss is actually unproved”. In fact the 9th circuit court does math and comes up with O’Quinn “does not established a loss, in fact if you dwindle down the “total expenses” of $13.3 million charged to his clients, you end up with less than $3 million in “actual expenses” incurred by John O’Quinn. Note here that even though the 9th Circuit stated that in it’s ruling the clients did not get any more money, in fact the clients are out of this fight, now it is lawyer against lawyer for the spoils of the settlement.
The 9th Circuit affirmed the two lower courts decisions and said John O’Quinn had to pay the money he owed per his contract with Brown and Bain.
So we have another 900 clients with pocket money, John O’Quinn with the Bat Mobile and the Pope Mobile, 3,000 clients still crying in Texas waiting for their money as John O’Quinn appeals that decision and as sad as all of this is, there is something much sadder in this. We have 3,900 clients that ended up with almost nothing, yet as tax payers they with all of us paid for the courts to adjudicate the fight between lawyers over who gets the most of that original $26+ million Motorola made an out of court settlement for.
After this latest lost John O’Quinn’s lawyer, Neil McCabe has stated, “the firm is considering a request for en banc review by the court”.
“Ultimately, Motorola agreed to pay $26.3 million to settle the case in 2002. O’Quinn treated $13.7 million as costs chargeable to clients and also $10.1 million as the 40 percent contingency fee. Clients recovered approximately $2.5 million, or roughly $2,100 apiece, according to the court.” As part of its educational outreach, the 9th Circuit set the case as one of several argued at the University of California’s Boalt Hall School of Law in February. A fee fight between lawyers, what fun to put before law students, said McCabe.”
Yeppers, John O’Quinn left clients once again Crying as Roy Orbinson so aptly wrote and even the rest of us as observers have paid for this “love fest of fighting over settlement money by high power lawyers”, with our tax dollars. As the Bay Area Citizens Against Lawsuit Abuse (BACALA) wants us to swallow hook , line , and sinker, with the stats of, “Texas alone each year as tax payers we pay $800 per person for this type of litigation” This of course leaves us all asking when added to the national cost we wonder what that comes to? Is it time to continue to cry, or to join and reform “tort cases”?
As fees from lawyers, I would say yes! However, perhaps no, with Tort Reform in Texas, we went from the bottom three states in the cost of tort cases to business to the number one in the nation as savings in tort cases to businesses. Wow on the surface amending our constitution with Proposition 12 in 2004, we WON, but not really, our cost as taxpayers are the same, the only difference is now big business wins more of their suits over the small guy defendant. Does this mean the rich gets richer and the rest of us are left “Crying”?
Per the site Common Dreams Org., “There are, of course, plenty of things wrong with the civil justice system. It has high “transaction” costs, meaning money that should go to victims is eaten up by lawyers and others, but worst of all, it is haphazard.”
Do I like what John O’Quinn does to his clients? No, but for the disenfranchised that can no longer sue in Texas because of tort reform, it appears to me in correcting a situation, we threw the baby out with the bath water. When are we going to learn “moderation in all things”? We have the architect as he is called Karl Rove to thank for businesses getting richer and the small guy getting fucked.
I bet you all thought I was going to slam John O’Quinn in this article, right?
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March 11, 2008
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I really got interested in tort laws two years ago while helping my daughter in college on two semisters of criminal justice. I agree about Rove that is for sure, there are alot of people in the White House that are just like him. Though, I best keep my mouth shut when it comes to politics! lol
Lets put it this way, I am not a Republican and I surely do not want to see this specific woman whos own campaign ran out of money after such a short time and her questionable tactics and rumors her side spews to the people to misinform… let’s just say I wholeheartedly agree with Oprah.
Beth – ditto
Beth ditto, we must be ppl who think for ourselves huh?
I have the rest of the questions on Daniel up for us to try to finish by tomorrow… I still have a LOT of info. you all sent that I am getting together to answer some of these…
Thanks Rose!
Hey Pisces, hope you’re doing well.
Rose, WHAM-BAM-THANK YOU, MAM AND KEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EXCELLENT! EXCELLENT!
What a blessing to have Rose Speaks! This article contains so many subjects of concern to me that I need Ken to do the math…LOL
More later…
WOW I have so many pages opened, trying to keep up on all subjects and comments. It’s not easy ladies
for an oldlady. LOL
I’m doing great Beth, thanks. This election has certainly caught my attention…but I’m still trying to figure out who Karl Rove is, other than the ass that comments on Fox.
He was the man that got shrub elected and is now helping McCain, Rove is the one that brought dirty politics and ads to an all new LOW… he needs to be home at Fox but he saw a kid messed up on booze and drugs many years ago and said the “chrisma of the down home let’s have a BarBQue” was enough for Rove to “architect” a pres out of and damn he did it…
Carl Rove was/is what I call a d**k-head…
I love politics & freedom of speech…LOL
Beth, Initially I supported you candidate & can’t believe I am finally in a position to vote for an African American, but plan to vote for the the woman, but not because she is female…LOL I listen/watch Young & Restless so I miss Oprah… But for me it has been the media doing 99% of the spewing…and it irratates me equal to Howard coverage…but have asked myself if I should be blogging/working for my candidate. What has Oprah been saying if I may ask? Oprah always seemed like an ideal candidate to me…LOL Bill Clinton is tops in my book and even tho many find that a negative, I consider it a “twofer”. He might have got oral sex…but Bush via Rove and BIG money have screwed us all…IMO. Yet they are the moral majority???? BS!
Thanks Rose. So, do you think that is why McCain had a BBQ the other day? lol
SusieQ ………Dito, dito, dito
12. old lady -could you be more specific? LOL!
“McCabe said the firm is considering a request for en banc review by the court.”
(En banc) “On the bench.” All judges of a court sitting together to hear a case.
OH, DO I HOPE THAT DOES HAPPENS! Would love to read the findings of the arguments from the UC Boalt Hall School of Law.
SusieQ, I’m working on the campaign in our county. I agree with all you said in #11. The media can really beat a person up.
Whose Karl Rove?..Lets put it this way. Karl Rove is a person who is actually worse than Vergie Arthur, Ford Shelly, G.Ben Thompson and Geraldo Rivera COMBINED
Thanks for the article Rose. It must be pretty depressing to lawyers who have to be in court constantly defending many of their cases of the past decade.
A little trivia; In a interview years ago with Elvis Presley he was asked who his favorite male singer was, Elvis answered: “Roy Orbison” (his favorite female artist was Anne Murray) My favorite Roy Orbison songs (in order) Blue Angel, Crying, and Only the Lonely.
Mr. Orbison’s life was filled with loss like Howard, a very sad tale indeed.
http://royorbison.musiccitynetworks.com/index.htm?id=4384
“A dark period ensued as Roy’s private life began to unravel as well. In 1966, his wife Claudette, who he married in 1957, was killed in a motorcycle accident. Matters turned worse two years later when two of his three children died when his Hendersonville house burned down.”
Roy Orbison was a great singer and one I grew up listening too… so sad about his life I had not read that Beth….:(
I know at the end he was loved by one of his children the new wife he wrote “All You have to do is Ask”, and lots of us that loved his voice and loved his writings of songs… but hey I loved Elvis too…..:)
TZ, How very well put and a GREAT analogy
TZ-I cracked up…LOL
I loved Roy O’s music and just last week watched he and Bruce Springsteen during the 1988, “ Black & White Nights.” In my younger days, some of the songs made me feel like he was singing about me…Oh, Pretty Woman…lol …Only the Lonely..sob.. Anyway I didn’t pay much attention to Bruce Springsteen’s appearance, but the other night …oolala. Me thinks I have been celibate to long…LOL
Roy Orbison was great I love his songs.. I think they are in my subconcious I hear one and I just sing along. the words come back into my head and I love it..
Watch the DVD of the travelling wilbury”s with George Harrison, Tom Petty Bob Dylan and Roy Orbison.. It is lovely to watch these guys make it look so easy.
O Quin wouldn’t watch him if that was the last thing to watch on earth sneaky snake oil type person……..
WOW Rose, another good article. After looking up the information on O’Quinn I found out that a congessional committee was to investigate John M. O’Quinn for filing possible fraudulent claims for damages in the breast implant cases. I never read anywhere what happened in the investigation. Maybe Don Clark took care of that for him, LOL. In the multi-billion dollar high profile cases he handled only the attorneys made money. The poor sick people he was representing got little or nothing. Then the 9th Circuit Court rules in his favor. Ain’t life grand. And to think that the people in the democratic party of Texas wanted to run him as governor. Watch out Rose, Lyndal and Lucky he could be your next governor, what a scary thought. LOL
Speaking of George Harrison….words from one of his songs:
Hold the block on money flow
Move it into joint escrow
Court receiver, laughs, and thrills
But in the end we just pay those
lawyers theit bills
When you serve me
And I serve you
Swing your partners, all get screwed
Bring your lawyer
And I’ll bring mine
Get together, and we could have
a bad time
We’re gonna play the sue me, sue
you blues
I’m tired of playing the
Sue Me, Sue You Blues
If there is one thing good about this whole sad affair it is we are getting a front seat view of the good, the bad and the ughly across a broad spectrum of people.
No wonder Virgie told Greta she thought O’Quinn was a wonderful person…Just a guess, but I am thinking by O’Quinn stating he was working pro bono (free) the cost just to litigate may exceed the above case. Then add what he hopefully will have to pay Howard.
One of the reasons I asked Rose to do this article is so people can take a long hard look at how long these cases can drag out…how much a case can cost to litigate…the fact that even when a person wins, they can win zip or even be out money and even you want to get into a pissing contest…and money is no object even if you know you will lose…Appeal…Bust your opponet!
However the primary reason of interest using this case is to show the bias of the media and mean-spirited people against Howard and as Rose says if you can help one person better understand how very much Howard did for Anna with out very little compensation…other than being with the love of his life which also included Daniel and then Dannielynn..
There have been thousands of email come into by box re: Howard making money off Anna, Daniel, Dannielynn, in addition to reading thousands of likewise post…How many times have we read comment by people gleefully defaming and desparaging Howard just in reference to Anna buying his shoes, living in her home, buying his clothes? How many times have we heard these remarks in the media or read them in the newpapers?
Yet it is just dandy for O’Quinn Law firm to to legally screw his clients AND his fellow lawyer friends?
Let’s take another look at what Rose has already pointed out and compare Howard and O’Quinn in this one case against Motorola.
As I understand it the original contract for this purpose, expenses were defined to include but not be limited to “depositions, expert witness and consultant fees, surveys, maps, copies, exhibits, testing, models, travel, meals, lodging, storage, rentals, equipment, and other expenses reasonably necessary to the prosecution of the claims other than the salaries and normal office overhead of Attorneys.”
Folks the above is a not so pretty standard practice… ditto for the 40%
To be continued…
Moderator will you please copy, remove and put in my pm for me?
Moderator…Please remove post #27, I ran out of time and posted only because I thought I would get done. It is rough draft and needs corrections and additions…THANK YOU!
Raven love your post…we must be thinking a like…cept I would have given my denture to have Howard as my personal attorney…bigger is not always better…lol
Peppermint is a LDS Republican so she’s hiding! LOL!
29. PM-[pepperment for short-no offense intended] What is LDS? I respect and encourage everyone’s right to vote, I have voted for a few republicans but I am going to ding your dong! LOL I think we need a new system/party…like everyone vote on same day, no electoral votes lalala and elect me pres…lol In the past I have voted for person, meaning a very few republicans…lol