Judge Charles A Pannell Jr.

A federal judge that asks for answers after case pending for 7 years.

We have been following DiVata kidney dialysis services, in a whistle­-blower case that accuses the company of defrauding Medicare and Medicaid of hundreds of millions of dollars.

U.S. District Senior Judge Charles A Pannell Jr. issued an order signed last month sanctioning DaVita for “unacceptable” litigation conduct that could force the company to reimburse whistle-­blower lawyers for as much as $2 million in fees and expenses. Pannell held that the company demonstrated “enough of a showing of bad faith” to warrant reopening discovery. Whistle-blower lawyers had sought the sanctions, claiming that key witnesses either had given false testimony in depositions or recanted statements made under oath.

The case was filed in 2007 by Dr. Alon J. Vainer, a board-certified nephrologist who was medical director for several of DaVita’s clinics, and Daniel Barbir, a registered nurse who worked as a Cumming clinic director. The two former DaVita employees claimed in their suit that, for years, DaVita systematically defrauded Medicare, Medicaid and civilian medical programs for the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs and Defense Department. They claimed DaVita boosted profits by prescribing—and billing the federal government—for vials of drugs that were larger than the smaller doses actually administered to patients.

In September of this year, Pannell ordered the hearing that occurred last Friday, September 12, 2014, after reviewing a growing number of documents and court records that DaVita lawyers were filing under seal.

In his Order for the hearing Judge Pannell, said;

“The documents at issue in all the motions are documents which the defendants seek to conceal from public view. Undoubtedly, these documents contain business information that the defendants would prefer to keep secret,” however, the majority of the documents are more than 10 years old. The court questions the need to file these documents under seal. While health information that identifies patients is confidential under federal regulations and will be maintained under seal, the remaining categories are less certain. This is particularly true in the context of information as old as the documents at issue here. In other words, information that, if current, would be commercially sensitive information likely loses that status after some time passes.”

Judge Pennell went on to say

“that DaVita lawyers had offered “general explanations for the types of documents that they contend should be sealed, including contract terms, wastage and dosing information, financial analyses and health information.”

In a motion seeking permission to file more documents under seal or redact them before they are made available to the public, DaVita lawyers said the documents in question “have already been sealed or are subject to pending motion to seal because they reference confidential and commercially sensitive [prescription drug] dosing and wastage.” DaVita cited a 2007 case from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit ( Romero v. Drummond Co., 480 F.3d 1234).

Not to be out done in the hearing L. Lin Wood, one of the lawyers representing the two whistleblowers, argued that many of the documents DaVita lawyers are filing under seal “in essence show the amount of waste” the company allegedly relied on to boost profits. Wood said that issue is at the heart of his clients’ case and should not be sealed.

Wood suggested that the public has a right to know about a case involving potentially millions of taxpayer dollars and that the courts have a duty to make the information available. “There ought to be sunshine on these documents,” he said. “They want to keep this information in the dark. They don’t want the public to know.”

Last May, in a motion citing former Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis’ famous remark—”Sunlight is said to be the best disinfectant”—the lawyers including L Lin Wood, Atlanta firms Wilbanks & Bridges and Krevolin & Horst, petitioned the court to determine whether statements they had quoted in their own pleadings had to be redacted before they were made accessible to the public.

This next part is one of my favorite part of DaVita questioning this federal judge saying.

DaVita lawyer Randi Schnell of Bondurant Mixson & Elmore, noted that a number of the sealed documents Judge Pannell questioned had already been sealed by a magistrate judge. Pannell replied: “Just because we sealed something before doesn’t mean we didn’t make a mistake.”

You have to love a federal judge that calls a hearing and is prepared to ask some tough questions of a company that has potentially robbed us tax payers of more than $2 billion.

I say let’s open those documents to the sunshine and see what DaVita is up to, so we can better address other companies that might owe the government, especially Medicare, Medicaid and the VA hospitals millions back.

If the judge issues an order on this case that opens up the records we will begin to cover this case with the documents. I can’t imagine anything more important as baby boomers began to collect Medicare and our veterans are entitled to solid care that does not rob the VA.

There is a much longer article you can read at the Daily Report

Let us know if you have an interest in this case now that the federal government has allowed whistle-blowers and their attorneys to take a lead in suing for fraud of government funds.

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September 15, 2014
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The idea that the fight for gender equality has swung 'too far' is ludicrous.

The idea that the fight for gender equality has swung ‘too far’ is ludicrous.

ABC international on their Australia site target both Paul Elam and Dean Esmay as the main haters and she spared no words for their site “A Voice for Men” (AVfM). In an article by Clementine Ford, a free lance writer was picked up by ABC International calling a spade a spade in her article A lesson for men’s rights activists on real oppression. She starts with this, Any time a disparate system of power is equalised, one side must surrender some privileges – that may upset men’s rights activists, but it certainly doesn’t mean feminism is subjugating men.

I highly reccomend the article after it was found that one of the shooters in California that killed and wounded others was on the fridge of men’s rights activists (MRA) I am going to quote some of her article that hits home here with my comments.

In a couple of weeks, an ‘International Conference on Men’s Issues’ will be held in Detroit, Michigan. In an ideal world, such a thing would be an opportunity to discuss how dominant ideas of masculinity translates to limited opportunities for boys and men to express themselves; it might broach the subject of rates of male incarceration and recidivism, and how socioeconomic factors influence these things; it could look at how the reductive idea of male stoicism has a detrimental effect on mental health.

Unfortunately, as it’s being hosted by A Voice for Men – a motley crew who espouse hatred and fear of women – it promises to be about as useful to the advancement of men’s issues as a condom made out of sticky tape. (Condoms are very important to the Men’s Rights movement, because MRAs are convinced paternity fraud is a thing. They even have a “nationally recognised expert” speaking on the matter. You guys, it’s not a thing.)

…Paul Elam, is (worryingly) a former mental health service provider who has, among other egregious revelations, openly stated that if he ever sits on a jury of a rape trial, he’ll vote to acquit on principle – even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the charges are true. This is because he believes America is overrun by a swathe of false rape accusations and that the legal system is “patently untrustworthy when it comes to the offense of rape”. Not because only 3 per cent of those accused of rape will ever be convicted – no, because not only is a guilty vote “simply an enabling capitulation to systemic legal corruption” but also, “in this, the age of misandry, not one aspect of a rape case can be trusted … the accuser cannot be trusted.” Meanwhile, AVfM’s managing editor, Dean Esmay, believes that “domestic violence is not a gendered issue” and that his oppression is real because some women make more money than him.

This might be the right place to show again Paul Elam and Dean Esmay laughing and saying female college rape victims should do “Let them take rapies” with their cell phones to prove it.

When you look at what constitutes ‘female privilege’ in the eyes of MRAs and MRAs-in-training, you see exactly how ignorant most of them are to real discrimination and fear. In the MRA handbook, female privilege is being able to speak to men without being considered predatory; it’s being able to decide whether or not to continue with a pregnancy (as opposed to having a child forced on you so that a scheming bitch can rob you blind for the next 18 years); it’s being able to have sex with a man and then later change your mind while accusing him of rape; it’s having the right to leave a marriage because the courts will favour you in a custody dispute; it’s receiving the ‘coveted status’ of being a rape survivor on a college campus and all the advantages that come with that.

With the exception of that last one, which is so despicably offensive that it’s almost impossible to believe it was not only printed in the Washington Post but that it was written by a Pulitzer prize-winning journalist, all of these examples of ‘female privilege’ seem less indicative of a rising gynarchy poised to crush whimpering men with a gigantic, comfortably shod foot than they do just basic rights that women are entitled to have even though they prevent men from being able to behave exactly as they like.

…I’ll let you in on a little secret. The Feminist Mafia is trying to erode men’s rights, and we’ve had some success over the years. Like the right for a man to legally rape his wife. Destroyed that. Or the right of men to determine who rises to political leadership. We nailed that one too. Or how about the right that said women became the physical property of their husbands, husbands who then had the right to commit these women to mental asylums (and frequently did) as a means of securing a divorce, leaving him free to marry another (often younger) woman? Yep, got rid of that.

Peggy Orenstein’s 1994 text ‘Schoolgirls’ included an anecdote which observed that, for many men and boys, equality is perceived as a loss. And it technically is, because any time a disparate system of power is equalised, one side must surrender some privileges. Referring to ‘female privilege’ (particularly in a world where, in some places, it is considered a privilege that girls even be allowed to live) as some kind of nefarious threat to the psychic wellbeing of men isn’t just offensive, it’s also dangerous. It provides a focal point of blame for the frustrations of men who feel they’ve somehow been denied all that was promised to them, and it can have terrifying and often violent ramifications for the women in their lives.

That being “dangerous” we have seen first hand with a MRA influenced mentally ill you man going on a shooting rage wanting to kill blonde sorority girls near Santa Barbara just last month.

The men who frequent A Voice For Men and similar MRA communities are not interested in equality between humans as they claim. Their agenda is not to restore ‘human rights’ for all but to re-establish the dominance that has historically been enjoyed by men both legally and socially.

Be sure you read the whole article by Clementine Ford Keep it handed for the next shooting spree to kill women because of these fringe groups, it is a terrific map into how that happens when someone mentally unstable believes the hatred being spewed. You can follow Clementine Ford on Twitter . As you read her article she has a lot of great additional links on both the haters and the real statistics out there.

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June 19, 2014
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Micheal Trope Top Los Angeles attorney

Micheal Trope Top Los Angeles attorney

I came across an article on one of the attorneys that Rose Speaks.com follows, the one that one the biggest divorce settlement ever in the Lisa and Kirk Kerkorian Trope however had a very interesting life leading up to this win and being a Michael Trope went from a child in Beverly Hills, to change the way professional football players negotiate contracts, back to law school, a top lawyer and an author of two books. WOW most people only do one of those things!

Michael Trope with Mother Gloria Trope

Michael Trope with Mother Gloria Trope

Born in 1951 to another top lawyer Sorrell Trope and Gloria Trope, Trope grew up in Beverly Hills, graduated from Palisades Charter High School in 1969 and graduated Magna Cum Laude from USC with a major in history in 1973. Trope later graduated from Loyola Law School in 1983 and was admitted to the California State Bar in 1987. 1951 After graduating from Loyola Law School in 1983 Trope retired as an NFL agent in 1985. Trope was admitted to the California State Bar in 1987, which is also the year Trope wrote the book “Necessary Roughness” a very blunt book about life as an NFL agent.

In 1971, 20 year old USC junior, Trope, decided he wanted to be an agent after watching Johnny Rodgers complete a punt return for 72 yards and a touchdown against the University of Oklahoma, thus leading the Nebraska Cornhuskers to the NCAA national football championship. Rodgers won the Heisman Trophy and Trope, at age 21 signed Rodgers as his first client and became the youngest agent in history to represent NFL players.

Over the next 12 years, between 1973–1985, Trope represented more NFL first round draft picks than any other agent, including six Heisman Trophy winners; numerous collegiate all Americans and over 200 total contracts.

Micheal Trope signing foot ball great Earl Campbell with then owner Bud Adams of the Houston Oilers

Micheal Trope signing foot ball great Earl Campbell with then owner Bud Adams of the Houston Oilers

Michael Trope’s client list included, in addition to 1972 Heisman Winner Johnny Rodgers, 1975 Heisman winner Archie Griffin Cincinnati Bengals’ first round draft pick; the 1977 Heisman winner Tony Dorsett Dallas Cowboys first round draft pick; 1978 Heisman winner and number one over all NFL draft pick Earl Campbell Houston Oilers; 1980 Heisman winner and first round draft pick Charles White (American football) Cleveland Browns; 1983 Heisman winner and first overall draft pick in the United States Football League Mike Rozier Pittsburgh Maulers; Heisman Trophy runner up Chuck Muncie, first round draft pick to New Orleans Saints; Ricky Bell first overall NFL draft pick, Tampa Bay Buccaneers; Marvin Powell first round draft pick New York Jets; Lawrence Taylor, first round draft pick New York Giants; W. Clay Matthews, Jr., first round draft pick Cleveland Browns; Wes Chandler, first round draft pick New Orleans Saints; Anthony Munoz, first round draft pick Cincinnati Bengals; Russell Erxleben, first round draft pick New Orleans Saints.; Lindsey Scott first round draft pick Atlanta Falcons; James Lofton, first round draft pick Green Bay packers; Chris Ward, first round draft pick New York Jets; Al Harris, first round draft pick Chicago Bears; Charles Alexander first round draft pick Cincinnati Bengals; Dave Wilson supplemental first round draft pick New Orleans Saints; Warren Bryant first round draft pick Atlanta Falcons; Mike Quick first round draft pick Philadelphia Eagles; Johnnie Cooks first round draft pick Baltimore Colts; Kellen Winslow first round draft pick San Diego Chargers; Kevin Brooks first round draft pick Dallas Cowboys; Johnny “Lam” Jones first round draft pick New York Jets; Mike Kenn first round draft pick Atlanta Falcons; Ricky Sanford first round draft pick New England Patriots; Dennis Smith first round draft pick Denver Broncos and many other notable players.

Lawrence Taylor signed a secret deal with Donald Trump and the USFL’s New Jersey Generals, which he later regretted. He asked Trope to attempt to extricate himself from the deal. Trope met with General’s owner Donald Trump and the owners of the New York Giants and negotiated [a] a release for Taylor from the General’s contract; and [b] a new $6 million multi-year deal for Taylor with the Giants. The negotiated deal resulted in Taylor’s receiving a new $6 million plus deal with the Giants, and with Trump receiving full repayment of the $1 million interest-free loan he made to Taylor, plus a handsome profit.

Micheal Trope did all of that by the age of 32. As an attorney he has represented some of the whose who of the rich and famous, landing the settlement for,Lisa Bonder Kerkorian in 2010, the largest ever won.

While doing all of this Trope wrote “Once Upon a Time in Los Angeles: The Trials of Earl Rogers” in 2001.

I have the book Necessary Roughness about how Trope changed major football contracts forever and laid the groundwork for today’s mega million dollar contracts. Again I say, WOW, more in his lifetime then a lot of people would have to do in one lifetime.

The next attorney we will be highlighting is another favorite of this site, L. Lin Wood, another amazing life.

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June 16, 2014
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Rose Speaks.com will be getting a new look in the next few weeks. It will allow you to find what you want to read much faster, and will still have all of the downloads we keep for our readers.

This might be slow as the new rules for blogs to appear on Google has been tighten up and what worked in 2007-2010 will no longer get it.

Keep checking back and once we have a new look up be sure and leave us a note with your thoughts.

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NCIS star Pauley Perrette snared in Nightmare of ongoing legal battle

NCIS star Pauley Perrette snared in Nightmare of ongoing legal battle


In an article on Courthouse News yesterday, March 24, 2014, by MATT REYNOLDS outlines how the ongoing drama between Pauley Perrette and her ex-husband Coyote Shivers appears to continue.

As soon as we can find whether this case is in Domestic Court, Criminal Court or Civil Court we will attempt to get the paperwork.

The article outlines the following:

LOS ANGELES (CN) – “NCIS” star Pauley Perrette sought restraining orders against her ex-husband Francis Shivers, who now claims in court that his ex-wife is gaming the court system and terrorizing him.

Perrette successfully obtained court orders against Shivers after they separated in 2004 and divorced in 2006.

Shivers later faced allegations from his previous wife, model and singer Bebe Buell, and ex-girlfriend Angela Garber, that he was physically and psychologically abusive.

All three women have claimed that Shivers harasses them through bogus complaints and requests for restraining orders, according to a September 2009 story from Fox News.

TMZ reported in 2012 that Shivers was arrested for violating the terms of a restraining order by showing up to eat at the same sushi restaurant Perrette was in.

But in his new Superior Court complaint, Francis “Coyote” Shivers, 48, calls himself an “unwilling victim.” He claims that Perrette, 44, was inspired by an unsold screenplay she wrote, “Star Crazy,” in which an actress takes revenge on a man who rejected her.

“Perrette never succeeded in selling her ‘Star Crazy’ script,” Shivers says in his complaint. “Instead, she decided to act it out in real life with plaintiff as her unwilling victim and co-star.”

Shivers claims Perrette attempted to break into the house he was living in when he filed for divorce in 2004, and says he sought a restraining order against the actress in early 2005.

During a “decade-long campaign of harassment,” Perrette has “intended to financially, physically, and emotionally ruin plaintiff,” the 11-page lawsuit states.

Shivers reportedly married Brazilian journalist and author Mayra Dias Gomes in 2010. The actor and musician claims that Perrette admitted to hiring investigators to snoop on him, and has dug up personal financial information on his wife.

Shivers claims that Perrette and her fiancé, former British Royal Marine and actor Thomas Arklie set a trap for him at the Shintaro restaurant so he would unwittingly violate the terms of the restraining order.

In November 2012, Shivers claims, he and his wife went to the Shintaro restaurant, an eatery he frequented, to find Perrette and Arklie waiting for them.

Shivers says he tried to leave and claims Perrette and Arklie “moved their bodies to a location anticipated to be in proximity to them [Shivers and his wife], for the ulterior purpose of triggering violation of the temporary restraining order.”

The lawsuit claims that Perrette and Arklie secured a criminal protective order after Shivers, “in self-defense, instinctively began to record Arklie’s attempted assault and pursuit of plaintiff as he and his wife attempted to exit the Shintaro restaurant.”

Furthermore, Shivers says, Perrette has tried to stop him from using the word “stalker” when referring to her on Twitter and has incited “NCIS” fans, who have sent him death threats.

Perrette paints herself as a “victim of real-life domestic abuse so as to promote her police procedural drama television series at the expense of plaintiff’s rights and wellbeing,” Shivers claims.

“Prior to the March 20, 2012 incident at Shintaro, defendant Perrette had testified in other proceedings, and the court had found, that there had in fact been no history of any domestic violence,” the lawsuit states.

Alleging assault, abuse of process and intentional infliction of emotional distress, Shivers seeks punitive damages and costs.

He identifies Perrette by the name Laura Pauline Perrett in his complaint. He also names Arklie as a co-defendant.

He is represented by Hirad Dadgostar.

It appears that Perrette will again be spending money on lawyers to unravel this latest turn in a saga that has been ongoing since 2004.

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March 25, 2014
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Fame Plaintiff Attorney Lin Wood

Fame Plaintiff Attorney Lin Wood

Whistle Blower Elin Baklid-Kunz wins $20,000,000.00 that’s right the zeros equal twenty million dollars (25%) of the total recovered by the U. S. Federal Government. This is her share as the Whistle Blower on Medicare and Medicaid fraud against Halifax Hospital Medical Center. The medical center has agreed to pay $85 million to the federal government. Elin Baklid-Kunz received her part of the settlement under provisions of the federal False Claims Act. The 150-year-old False Claims Act encourages private citizens who are aware of fraud against the federal government to bring that information forward in the form of a civil action against those suspected of fraud. In a winning suit, a private citizen—often referred to as a whistleblower can claim as much as 25 percent of the funds recovered for the government from a judgment or settlement.

The lead attorney for Kuntz is Marlan Wilbanks of Atlanta’s Wilbanks & Bridges. One of our favorite attorneys to follow L. Lin Wood of of Wood, Hernacki & Evans was part of the plaintiff’s lawyers.

Halifax Hospital Medical Center and its subsidiary Halifax Staffing Inc. settled part of the five-year-old case with the U.S. Justice Department on Monday, March 10, 2014.

In an article by R. Robin McDonald, on March 12, 2014 Wilbanks said; “that whistleblowers collect, on average, about 16.5 percent of funds the federal government reclaims in whistleblower cases. Kunz’s payout, represents more than twice the largest previous settlement in the history of a Stark Act case.” The Stark Act bars a medical center from submitting claims to Medicare and Medicaid for health care services referred by a physician with whom the medical center has a financial relationship and who would gain excess benefit either directly or indirectly from that referral.

Lin Wood said of the settlement; “That Kunz’s made significant contributions … which were recognized by the United States in awarding her a 24.5 percent relator’s fee where the statutory cap is 25 percent.”

As you might guess only a part of the whistleblower lawsuit is over Wilbanks and Lin Wood are continuing to litigate against Halifax over allegations that the hospital fraudulently boosted revenues at the expense of federal Medicare and Medicaid programs by admitting patients for short stays of one to two days when there was no medical necessity to do so. The second phase of the Halifax case kicks off in July with a jury trial, where Wood and Wilbanks will seek between $80 million to $240 million on claims that Halifax committed fraud “with respect to improper admissions of short-stay patients”.

Lin Wood, always the Georgia accent attorney, went on to say; “I do not believe the general public fully understands and appreciates the important role in our system played by whistleblowers such as Elin Kunz. The public should look beyond her share of the recovery and consider the high price she has paid for having the courage to speak the truth. … She has suffered isolation, retaliation, ridicule and scorn almost every day for five years from Halifax executives and co-employees. Her career in compliance, a job she loves, has essentially been lost to her forever. But her courage has recovered over $60 million for the U.S. treasury with more to come. She is, by any definition, a hero.”

The settlement agreement includes an admission by the medical center that it violated the Stark Act by paying incentive bonuses to six oncologists employed by Halifax Staffing, a hospital subsidiary, that were based on the fees generated by prescribed drugs and outpatient and physician services. Federal prosecutors said that Halifax also paid three hospital neurosurgeons more than the fair market value of their work, which was then billed to Medicare and Medicaid, in violation of federal law.

One of the main things that Kunz found most offensive were that the procedures involved patient safety. Kunz discovered that there was no medical necessity for 90 percent of the spinal fusions performed by one of the hospital’s neurosurgeons.

Enjoy reading the settlement agreement, as you know most of these are sealed never to be spoke of again.

3-10-2014-Notice to Court of Settlement (119 downloads)
3-10-2014 Terms of the Settlement Agreement to Elin Baklid-Kunz (127 downloads)

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March 13, 2014
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wilee. coyote-malcontent

What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome!!!

Francis Coyote Shivers, which should give you shivers is at it again. He is a victim, the justice system in California is corrupt. We are trying to check out with sources if he is still not allowed to file a civil lawsuit without permission of the Court. That testy “Vexatious Litigant”, means he filed lawsuits he knew he could not win just to harass “victims” and just people. So Coyote did the next best thing, had a group A Voice for Men it appears, not sure but looks like one of their documents. Anyway Coyote Shivers has filed a State Bar Complaint on Deputy Los Angeles City Attorney Elizabeth Gertz.

Jan-30-2014-Gertz-Complaint-Final-by-Coyote-Shivers.pdf (160 downloads)

One can guess Ms Gertz has probably prosecuted him in the past. My question remains why is a Canadian in the U. S. using tax payers money in ridiculous filings? There is even a petition to have very rich Justin Beiber sent back to Canada filed by American citizens so why is the Coyote allowed to stay???

Larry Bakman Esq. of Los Angeles California

Larry Bakman Esq. of Los Angeles California

In other news Larry Bakman Esq. has warned A Voice for Men to delete the libel and defaming articles etc. from their site or be sued by his client John J Nazarian PI. Nazarian-2-11-14.pdf (147 downloads)

At this point based on what happened to us in 2007-2010 I want to just say “pass the popcorn” and expect a bumpy ride. This guy is rough and tough and normally gets men cleared of domestic violence cases, however libel is libel.

Just when you think all of the weird stuff is about Beiber, up pops some ill-informed people who took Coyote’s side and decided to slammed John Nazarian. A P. I. that to me looks rough and tough and serious. I received an email last night saying this “cough cough” group from the Lone Star Great State of Texas, put up their response as an article. Ah y’all come see us you hear!!! Such class, but then consider the source.

Like I said pass the popcorn, and let’s see how these bloggers like being put under what Rose Speaks.com bloggers went through a few years back. Personal advice y’all should expect some sleepless nights.

However this MRA (Men Rights Advocates) are not thought highly of by other groups because of their extreme shenanigans.

However, A Voice for Men led by Paul Elam and Dean Esmay have a novel idea for the extinction of humans; just teach all boys not to ever get married and not to ever have children. Yeppers that should take care of men like the Coyote, way to go!!!

Other articles about this fiasco:

http://www.rosespeaks.com/2014/02/09/john-nazarian-discusses-mra-groups/

http://www.rosespeaks.com/2014/01/29/john-nazarian-vs-paul-elam-and-dean-esmay-of-avfm/

http://www.rosespeaks.com/2014/01/14/is-stalker-francis-coyote-shivers-in-jail-yet/

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